Religions > Atheism > OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
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06 Nov 2004 01:25:45 PM |
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OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate |
Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
Whether in the Middle East or in Middle America......
by Mark Levine
http://www.opednews.com/levineMark_110504_hatred.htm
Many have reacted with surprise that millions of Ohio voters who have
been so impoverished by the Bush Presidency would vote to elect Bush
based on "moral values," having been led to the polls by the most
extreme anti-gay initiative in American history. Ohio's Issue 1, on the
same ballot as the Presidential race, passed last Tuesday. The new law
not only reiterates current Ohio law that gay people cannot marry each
other: it goes farther to deny Ohioans the right to have private
contracts with each other, if such contracts provide gay couples health
care or other job benefits. Gay couples will no longer be allowed to
will each other property, visit each other in hospitals, provide for
their children, or have any other legal rights or contracts that would
"approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of marriage."
Their parental rights are hereby nullified. And in Ohio (and most
other states), any employer may fire gay people solely on the basis of
homophobic animus.
<<<<<<That last sentence......is it true ? An employer could fire you if
your gay ??.........because if it is....
FUCKING HELL DUDES !!!!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What is the source of this overwhelming hate of Ohioans (and voters in
10 other states) for their fellow man?
History teaches that as poor people become more impoverished and see no
way out of their condition, they rarely attack the powerful people in
control. Revolutions are tough to win. Instead they retreat to
religion and find a scapegoat who is easier to attack, often aided in
this task by the very people oppressing them.
In the Middle Ages, European peasants mistreated by nobles rose up
against Jews hired by the nobles to collect the peasants' taxes. In the
Confederacy, poor non-slave-owning whites fought a war to allow rich
plantation owners to keep their slaves while these same slaveholders
bought their way out of military service. In Weimar Germany, poor
people ruined by massive inflation and the imposition of the punitive
Versailles Treaty rose up against the Jews before they later turned
against France and England. And in the Middle East today, poor Arabs
mistreated by their rulers have also turned against their Jews first,
then Israel, and only later Americans (the latter, at least, having some
rational basis, since the American Government has supported their ruling
dictators).
In the USA, ignorant people who see no way out of poverty are
increasingly turning to religious demagogues: for example, some Blacks
follow the Nation of Islam, hating Whites and Jews. But many White (and
Black) born-again fundamentalist Christians now focus on a new enemy:
homosexuals -- the devil in their midst (found even in their own families).
German bigots in the 1930's insisted their Jew-hatred was caused by the
actions of the Jews themselves who demanded equality in the 1800's
Enlightenment. How dare the Jews seek equal rights to participate in
Germany society and try to enter professions reserved for Germans!
American bigots in the 1960's insisted their racism was caused by the
actions of Blacks themselves (and outside agitators). How dare Blacks
seek equal rights to vote and go to public places! They have access to
their own decrepit buses and movie theaters and schools. Why do they
have to be in our buses and movie theaters and schools?
Today homophobic bigots insist their anti-gay animus is caused by the
actions of gay people themselves. How dare gay people seek equal rights
to marry, raise children, have equal access to jobs and health care, and
have a private life free from arrest by the state! Don't they realize
that God hates them? Don't they realize God demands they be
second-class American citizens?
Perhaps John Kerry should have taken Bill Clinton's advice to openly
support the 11 anti-gay state initiatives. It is virtually certain that
if Kerry had followed Clinton's Machiavellian advice, Kerry would have
been elected President. It wouldn't have been so hard for Kerry -- who
is on record opposing gay marriage -- to support these initiatives. The
problem was, as Kerry knew, these initiatives did far more than ban
marriage: they legally consigned gay couples to permanent second-class
citizenship and are quite literally a violation of the Constitution's
assurance to Americans of "equal protection under the laws." All Kerry
had to do was abandon his values and his belief in equal rights for the
gay community to get elected: a relatively minor flip-flop that few
straight Americans would have noticed.
(A side note. Please don't get me wrong. I don't think Clinton is
anti-gay in the least. I do not believe Clinton wanted to approve the
Defense of Marriage Act or the Republican plan to fire openly gay
citizens serving in the military. But Clinton signed these laws because
he had a keen eye for American politics. Clinton knew that you cannot
hold a nationally-elected office in America without some limited amount
of gay bashing.)
Is it to John Kerry's credit that he stood firm against Clinton's
advice? Should Kerry have pretended to sacrifice his moral values in
"liberty and justice for all" in order to be President? Maybe so.
Maybe opposing equal rights for gay people is the only way to get
elected in red-state America today. Just as opposing equal rights for
Blacks was necessary to be elected in the South. President Lyndon
Johnson said, when he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that he was
losing the South for Democrats for generations to come. Johnson was
right. And so was Clinton.
And so was Kerry.
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Porsche Unleashed, Hot Pursuit 2, Underground.
Yeowww
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate |
07 Nov 2004 08:02:27 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:25:45 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
Whether in the Middle East or in Middle America......
What hate, jez? All I see here is the hate for God, and the hate for people that love God
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Roger Andrews" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate |
09 Nov 2004 09:51:29 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<6aaso0trei46pg48od72uf6nprps8ar18c@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:25:45 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
Whether in the Middle East or in Middle America......
What hate, jez? All I see here is the hate for God, and the hate for people that love God
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
Are you blind, stupid, a hypocrate, or all three? The hate the
christian right has for gays, liberals, or anyone who opposes the Bush
regeme.
Oh, wait, we're talking about duke here. Nevermind.
BTW it's kind of hard to hate something you don't think exists, but of
course you've been told this before.
Roger
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate |
08 Nov 2004 11:20:30 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:25:45 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
Whether in the Middle East or in Middle America......
What hate, jez? All I see here is the hate for God, and the hate for people that love God
So it's love that causes your support for the slaughter of Women and
Children in the illegal Iraq invasion then is it ?
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Porsche Unleashed, Hot Pursuit 2, Underground.
Yeowww
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate |
09 Nov 2004 05:26:58 AM |
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:20:30 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:25:45 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
Whether in the Middle East or in Middle America......
What hate, jez? All I see here is the hate for God, and the hate for people that love God
So it's love that causes your support for the slaughter of Women and
Children in the illegal Iraq invasion then is it ?
Oh, brother, what a dingbat.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate |
09 Nov 2004 10:53:13 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:20:30 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:25:45 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
Whether in the Middle East or in Middle America......
What hate, jez? All I see here is the hate for God, and the hate for people that love God
So it's love that causes your support for the slaughter of Women and
Children in the illegal Iraq invasion then is it ?
Oh, brother, what a dingbat.
No, even dingbats have more sense than you duke.
(Whatever the ***** a dingbat is !)
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Porsche Unleashed, Hot Pursuit 2, Underground.
Yeowww
.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate |
09 Nov 2004 11:01:45 AM |
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:KJSdnYxrCPOkaw3cRVnyuw@pipex.net...
duke wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:20:30 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com>
wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:25:45 +0000, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com>
wrote:
Never underestimate the power of religiously-inspired hate
Whether in the Middle East or in Middle America......
What hate, jez? All I see here is the hate for God, and the hate for
people that love God
So it's love that causes your support for the slaughter of Women and
Children in the illegal Iraq invasion then is it ?
Oh, brother, what a dingbat.
No, even dingbats have more sense than you duke.
(Whatever the ***** a dingbat is !)
Edith Bunker ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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