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"John Baker" |
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14 Jan 2005 12:46:38 PM |
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OT: New Gear |
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down and
bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing, but
to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've had
some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in? It has great potential, but it's one of those pieces of
gear that requires a *lot* of tweaking. Don't we all love that? <G>
Thanks.
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
21 Jan 2005 12:33:09 PM |
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
news:ujj0v01bi9htkbsb9s4jvcokqvrtkunte5@4ax.com:
On 20 Jan 2005 20:03:43 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
news:ed5vu05dg39k3sfckr5jdkevkgj8fkkpnh@4ax.com:
On 20 Jan 2005 00:44:50 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote:
I can't believe Gibson would sue someone for body style. What crap.
It wouldn't be the first time; they did the same to Ibanez a while
back, go to Ebay and search for "Ibanez lawsuit"; you'll find a
whole host of instruments for sale under that heading. I'd boycott
Gibson, except for the inconvenient fact that my '79 Les Paul is by
far the greatest guitar I've ever played...
I guess the Japan made axe's are making inroads into Gibson's
territory.
Actually, I think more into their Epiphone division than Gibson
itself. The Gibson Les Paul is a "high market" item; for the most
part, the purchasers are either pros looking for the best, or amateurs
with a lot of money to spend on a status symbol, who aren't going to
buy a Japanese guitar with the same general look just because it costs
$1600 less. Epiphone, OTOH, makes instruments in that lower price
range, and would definitely feel the pinch from competitors making
similar instruments.
The Les Paul is one of the best guitars to play and to listen to. If I
had one, I certainly wouldn't trade it or sell it.
They'll get mine when they pry it out of my cold, dead hands! ;-)
The Les Paul is the golden ring of electrics.
Actually, japanese *made* guitars are also high end now. Check Takamine,
Ibanez, even Yamaha's higher end guitars and you'll see they are made in
Japan. Most companies that create cheaper guitars, including Gibson have
them made in Korea (not so much any more), China and Indonsia. Most
American made guitars are more expensive simply because they are made in
America, quality wise many Japanese guitars are their equal. There seems
to be a hierarchy with American at the top, followed by Japanese,
European, Korean, Chinese and then Indonesian in that order.
BTW have you recorded anything on your computer? I'd like to hear a bit
of your stuff if so. --
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 02:25:04 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
thought hard and said:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down and
bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing, but
to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've had
some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in? It has great potential, but it's one of those pieces of
gear that requires a *lot* of tweaking. Don't we all love that? <G>
Thanks.
It would be nice if I knew what the hell you were talking about. :-P
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 03:21:30 PM |
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Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:pbjlu0purluq408uql2np5p7qgvs2mho1r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
thought hard and said:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down and
bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing, but
to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've had
some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in? It has great potential, but it's one of those pieces of
gear that requires a *lot* of tweaking. Don't we all love that? <G>
Thanks.
It would be nice if I knew what the hell you were talking about. :-P
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr
Tveitt are my Gods. Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane
Scientist.
Go to your local guitar/music store and ask them to show you one. Pick
up a guitar, plug it in and play with it.
--
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
17 Jan 2005 08:52:50 PM |
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On 16 Jan 2005 21:21:30 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> thought hard and said:
Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:pbjlu0purluq408uql2np5p7qgvs2mho1r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
thought hard and said:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down and
bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing, but
to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've had
some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in? It has great potential, but it's one of those pieces of
gear that requires a *lot* of tweaking. Don't we all love that? <G>
Thanks.
It would be nice if I knew what the hell you were talking about. :-P
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr
Tveitt are my Gods. Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane
Scientist.
Go to your local guitar/music store and ask them to show you one. Pick
up a guitar, plug it in and play with it.
Meh. I do not really care for the guitar.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
18 Jan 2005 01:12:54 AM |
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"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sfuou0lnt7u1dd932lqit5vitr9b13cas5@4ax.com...
On 16 Jan 2005 21:21:30 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> thought hard and said:
Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:pbjlu0purluq408uql2np5p7qgvs2mho1r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
thought hard and said:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down and
bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing, but
to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've had
some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in? It has great potential, but it's one of those pieces of
gear that requires a *lot* of tweaking. Don't we all love that? <G>
Thanks.
It would be nice if I knew what the hell you were talking about. :-P
Some kind of radio?
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr
Tveitt are my Gods. Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane
Scientist.
Go to your local guitar/music store and ask them to show you one. Pick
up a guitar, plug it in and play with it.
Meh. I do not really care for the guitar.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr
Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
14 Jan 2005 10:48:59 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down and
bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing, but
to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've had
some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in?
Can't help here; I'm still a die-hard tube snob ;-)
But let me know how it sounds!
It has great potential, but it's one of those pieces of
gear that requires a *lot* of tweaking. Don't we all love that? <G>
Thanks.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 08:56:50 AM |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:48:59 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down and
bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing, but
to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've had
some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in?
Can't help here; I'm still a die-hard tube snob ;-)
But let me know how it sounds!
Well, it acquitted itself nicely at its first gig. <G> The warmest
sounding solid state amp I've ever heard. And for sheer volume, the
other guitarist's Marshall can't keep up. I'd say for both sound
pressure level and bottom end punch, it's the heavyweight champ of
2x12 combos. I think Line 6's 150 watt rating is a bit conservative. I
wouldn't say the amp models are 100% accurate, but they're close
enough, and no two amps, especially vintage amps, sound exactly alike
anyway, so just because Line 6's model doesn't sound exactly like *my*
blackface Twin doesn't mean it isn't pretty close to the one they used
to model it. Some care is required with the presence control, though.
On some of the models, there's a very fine line between lively and
piercing. :-)
On the downside, it's *heavy!* Not quite as bad as a Fender Twin, but
getting there. I see casters in its future.
The specs quoted on Line 6's site, 28 wide by 21 high by 10.5 deep and
59 pounds are still the old specs for the Flextone II. The Flextone
III is slightly smaller at 27 wide by 20 high by 10.5 deep, but it's
14 pounds heavier.
It has great potential, but it's one of those pieces of
gear that requires a *lot* of tweaking. Don't we all love that? <G>
Thanks.
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 11:16:06 AM |
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John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in
news:bavku0drf0crdnlk19pnooi0c05fj5lpbm@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:48:59 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down
and bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing,
but to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've
had some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in?
Can't help here; I'm still a die-hard tube snob ;-)
But let me know how it sounds!
Well, it acquitted itself nicely at its first gig. <G> The warmest
sounding solid state amp I've ever heard. And for sheer volume, the
other guitarist's Marshall can't keep up. I'd say for both sound
pressure level and bottom end punch, it's the heavyweight champ of
2x12 combos. I think Line 6's 150 watt rating is a bit conservative. I
wouldn't say the amp models are 100% accurate, but they're close
enough, and no two amps, especially vintage amps, sound exactly alike
anyway, so just because Line 6's model doesn't sound exactly like *my*
blackface Twin doesn't mean it isn't pretty close to the one they used
to model it. Some care is required with the presence control, though.
On some of the models, there's a very fine line between lively and
piercing. :-)
On the downside, it's *heavy!* Not quite as bad as a Fender Twin, but
getting there. I see casters in its future.
The specs quoted on Line 6's site, 28 wide by 21 high by 10.5 deep and
59 pounds are still the old specs for the Flextone II. The Flextone
III is slightly smaller at 27 wide by 20 high by 10.5 deep, but it's
14 pounds heavier.
Sounds like my Peavey amps. Who needs free weights to build muscle with
those around?
--
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 08:19:24 PM |
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Gary Bohn wrote:
<snip>
Sounds like my Peavey amps. Who needs free weights to build muscle
with those around?
Sound gear and the boxes they come in explain why the average roadie is 6'6"
with lots of muscle.
Several hours of sitting around, doing nothing but eating backstage food
explains the gut.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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16 Jan 2005 09:05:34 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:MgFGd.11151$wZ2.2822@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Sounds like my Peavey amps. Who needs free weights to build muscle
with those around?
Sound gear and the boxes they come in explain why the average roadie
is 6'6" with lots of muscle.
Several hours of sitting around, doing nothing but eating backstage
food explains the gut.
You got that straight! I used to be the one they sent up the show
towers, 'cause they were all too big. Try climbing a 35 foot tower with
35 feet of chain hanging off you when you're only 130 pounds!
--
Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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17 Jan 2005 03:48:01 PM |
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Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns95E0C24318D25255229@130.133.1.4:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:MgFGd.11151$wZ2.2822@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Sounds like my Peavey amps. Who needs free weights to build muscle
with those around?
Sound gear and the boxes they come in explain why the average roadie
is 6'6" with lots of muscle.
Several hours of sitting around, doing nothing but eating backstage
food explains the gut.
You got that straight! I used to be the one they sent up the show
towers, 'cause they were all too big. Try climbing a 35 foot tower
with 35 feet of chain hanging off you when you're only 130 pounds!
Sounds like fun. Some people are so lucky.
--
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 12:43:48 PM |
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On 16 Jan 2005 17:16:06 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in
news:bavku0drf0crdnlk19pnooi0c05fj5lpbm@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:48:59 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down
and bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing,
but to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've
had some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in?
Can't help here; I'm still a die-hard tube snob ;-)
But let me know how it sounds!
Well, it acquitted itself nicely at its first gig. <G> The warmest
sounding solid state amp I've ever heard. And for sheer volume, the
other guitarist's Marshall can't keep up. I'd say for both sound
pressure level and bottom end punch, it's the heavyweight champ of
2x12 combos. I think Line 6's 150 watt rating is a bit conservative. I
wouldn't say the amp models are 100% accurate, but they're close
enough, and no two amps, especially vintage amps, sound exactly alike
anyway, so just because Line 6's model doesn't sound exactly like *my*
blackface Twin doesn't mean it isn't pretty close to the one they used
to model it. Some care is required with the presence control, though.
On some of the models, there's a very fine line between lively and
piercing. :-)
On the downside, it's *heavy!* Not quite as bad as a Fender Twin, but
getting there. I see casters in its future.
The specs quoted on Line 6's site, 28 wide by 21 high by 10.5 deep and
59 pounds are still the old specs for the Flextone II. The Flextone
III is slightly smaller at 27 wide by 20 high by 10.5 deep, but it's
14 pounds heavier.
Sounds like my Peavey amps. Who needs free weights to build muscle with
those around?
Heh. I must be a glutton for punishment! I played through a Peavey
2x10 combo for years, then, in a moment of temporary insanity, moved
up to a Crate Excalibur stack with a 4x12 bottom. (I'm currently
playing through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, which has to be the heaviest
1x10 combo ever built, but not nearly as bad as the other two). If I
ever sell the Peavey or the Crate on Ebay, they're getting listed
under "Bodybuilding Equipment".
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 03:10:37 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:43:48 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On 16 Jan 2005 17:16:06 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in
news:bavku0drf0crdnlk19pnooi0c05fj5lpbm@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:48:59 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down
and bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking amazing,
but to get to the point - are there any of my fellow pickers who've
had some experience with this model who can give me some pointers for
dialing it in?
Can't help here; I'm still a die-hard tube snob ;-)
But let me know how it sounds!
Well, it acquitted itself nicely at its first gig. <G> The warmest
sounding solid state amp I've ever heard. And for sheer volume, the
other guitarist's Marshall can't keep up. I'd say for both sound
pressure level and bottom end punch, it's the heavyweight champ of
2x12 combos. I think Line 6's 150 watt rating is a bit conservative. I
wouldn't say the amp models are 100% accurate, but they're close
enough, and no two amps, especially vintage amps, sound exactly alike
anyway, so just because Line 6's model doesn't sound exactly like *my*
blackface Twin doesn't mean it isn't pretty close to the one they used
to model it. Some care is required with the presence control, though.
On some of the models, there's a very fine line between lively and
piercing. :-)
On the downside, it's *heavy!* Not quite as bad as a Fender Twin, but
getting there. I see casters in its future.
The specs quoted on Line 6's site, 28 wide by 21 high by 10.5 deep and
59 pounds are still the old specs for the Flextone II. The Flextone
III is slightly smaller at 27 wide by 20 high by 10.5 deep, but it's
14 pounds heavier.
Sounds like my Peavey amps. Who needs free weights to build muscle with
those around?
Heh. I must be a glutton for punishment! I played through a Peavey
2x10 combo for years, then, in a moment of temporary insanity, moved
up to a Crate Excalibur stack with a 4x12 bottom. (I'm currently
playing through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, which has to be the heaviest
1x10 combo ever built, but not nearly as bad as the other two). If I
ever sell the Peavey or the Crate on Ebay, they're getting listed
under "Bodybuilding Equipment".
I have an old blackface Fender Twin which, unfortunately, is
nonfunctional at the moment, although I do plan to put it back in
commission if and when I can find an original transformer in working
condition for it. It's rated at 85 watts RMS, and I think it weighs a
pound per watt. <G>
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Gear |
16 Jan 2005 03:19:16 PM |
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John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in
news:74mlu0tgsvugk9pnbhtajg2dbfsvnmjbdt@4ax.com:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:43:48 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On 16 Jan 2005 17:16:06 GMT, Gary Bohn
<garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in
news:bavku0drf0crdnlk19pnooi0c05fj5lpbm@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 04:48:59 GMT, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:46:38 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
wrote:
Well, after 35 years as a die-hard tube snob, I finally broke down
and bought a Line 6 Flextone III XL. This thing is freaking
amazing, but to get to the point - are there any of my fellow
pickers who've had some experience with this model who can give me
some pointers for dialing it in?
Can't help here; I'm still a die-hard tube snob ;-)
But let me know how it sounds!
Well, it acquitted itself nicely at its first gig. <G> The warmest
sounding solid state amp I've ever heard. And for sheer volume, the
other guitarist's Marshall can't keep up. I'd say for both sound
pressure level and bottom end punch, it's the heavyweight champ of
2x12 combos. I think Line 6's 150 watt rating is a bit
conservative. I wouldn't say the amp models are 100% accurate, but
they're close enough, and no two amps, especially vintage amps,
sound exactly alike anyway, so just because Line 6's model doesn't
sound exactly like *my* blackface Twin doesn't mean it isn't pretty
close to the one they used to model it. Some care is required with
the presence control, though. On some of the models, there's a very
fine line between lively and piercing. :-)
On the downside, it's *heavy!* Not quite as bad as a Fender Twin,
but getting there. I see casters in its future.
The specs quoted on Line 6's site, 28 wide by 21 high by 10.5 deep
and 59 pounds are still the old specs for the Flextone II. The
Flextone III is slightly smaller at 27 wide by 20 high by 10.5
deep, but it's 14 pounds heavier.
Sounds like my Peavey amps. Who needs free weights to build muscle
with those around?
Heh. I must be a glutton for punishment! I played through a Peavey
2x10 combo for years, then, in a moment of temporary insanity, moved
up to a Crate Excalibur stack with a 4x12 bottom. (I'm currently
playing through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, which has to be the heaviest
1x10 combo ever built, but not nearly as bad as the other two). If I
ever sell the Peavey or the Crate on Ebay, they're getting listed
under "Bodybuilding Equipment".
I have an old blackface Fender Twin which, unfortunately, is
nonfunctional at the moment, although I do plan to put it back in
commission if and when I can find an original transformer in working
condition for it. It's rated at 85 watts RMS, and I think it weighs a
pound per watt. <G>
Wasn't that a rule or something? It explains why my Peavey Reno 400,
which is rated at 200w, is so damn heavy.
--
apatriot #23, aa #2179, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
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