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OT: New Labour pledges =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A3500m_to_rebuild_f?==?ISO-8859-1?Q?aith-based_schools?= |
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy ???)
Kelly angers secular group by pledging £500m to rebuild faith-based schools
By Richard Garner, Education Editor
07 May 2005
http://education.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=636320
The Government has pledged around £500m to rebuild every faith-based
secondary school in England - overturning a 60-year-old rule requiring
churches to contribute towards all school building costs.
The decision, the first major concession to faith schools made by the
staunchly Catholic Education Secretary, Ruth Kelly, has outraged secular
groups who claim taxpayers' money should not be used to aid selective,
church-based education.
Gordon Brown, the Chancellor, has already announced that every secondary
school in the country would be rebuilt under a £5bn refurbishment
programme by 2015.
Under existing rules, that would mean voluntary-aided church schools -
of which there are just over 500 in the country - having to contribute
10 per cent of the cost.
However, representatives of the Anglican and Catholic churches protested
they would not have enough funds to cover the cost of such a programme.
As a result, Ms Kelly agreed to waive the rule in a one-off deal to
treat faith schools, which educate around 500,000 secondary school
pupils, the same as the rest of the maintained sector.
Marilyn Mason, education officer of the British Humanist Association,
said she was "annoyed" by the deal. "The BHA is opposed to faith-based
schools in principle and one of our grievances is that they're not open
to all pupils," she said. "If you don't happen to be of the right faith,
you can't get your children into these schools.
"If they obeyed the same rules as other schools with the same admissions
and employment arrangements, then the situation might be different."
The decision will benefit 350 Roman Catholic schools, 130 Anglican and
23 run by other Christian groups. Five Jewish schools, two Muslim and
one Sikh school would also benefit.
Mr Brown also announced plans to rebuild half the country's primary
schools under a separate programme during the election campaign and
officials signalled the Government could waive the 10 per cent rule for
the 3,800 church primary schools as well.
A spokeswoman for the Department for Education said ministers would
reduce the capital grant made to church schools for other urgent repairs
by £17m as a result of the deal. However, they would still receive £440m
under this programme next year. She added: "All pupils deserve
21st-century facilities and the decision to include the voluntary-aided
sector equally ensures we will deliver on that commitment."
Tony Blair and Ms Kelly have always signalled their support for faith
schools - trying to encourage church groups to back the flagship
programme to set up 200 privately sponsored academies to replace
struggling secondary schools in inner cities.
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Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges =?iso-8859-1?b?ozUwMG0=?= to rebuild faith-based schools |
12 May 2005 08:41:46 AM |
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In our last episode <88udnc5mWdGfL-HfRVnysg@pipex.net>, Jez pirouetted
gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy
???)
<snork>
Yeah, things are working so well over here. We're back to massive
deficits, the trade imbalance is setting records every quarter, we need
something like $2 billion in foreign investments per DAY to keep the
country afloat, job creation in the economy has been sputtering for *years
now, health care is spiraling out of control (health care costs are now
the leading cause of bankruptcy)...
Join us won't you?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Mephisto" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges £500m to rebuild faith-based schools |
11 May 2005 12:37:56 PM |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy ???)
Time to persuade my MP to ask a few question in the Commons, I think!
Mephisto
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| User: "Iain" |
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12 May 2005 12:22:31 PM |
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Mephisto wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to
copy ???)
Time to persuade my MP to ask a few question in the Commons, I think!
I think the campaign against single-faith schools should be part and
parcel of a specific campaign to stop giving religion a special
official status in society.
~Iain
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| User: "Mephisto" |
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12 May 2005 06:54:17 PM |
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On 12 May 2005 10:22:31 -0700, "Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Mephisto wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to
copy ???)
Time to persuade my MP to ask a few question in the Commons, I think!
I think the campaign against single-faith schools should be part and
parcel of a specific campaign to stop giving religion a special
official status in society.
Yes, it's about time. It's a minority hobby now, and there's no reason
why it shold be treated any differently to other minority crackpot
groups. I think people in the UK are unconcerned about it, partly
because they think they have no power, and partly because things don't
look that bad when you look over the pond. It's a mistake to let them
get a foothold IMO.
Mephisto
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| User: "duke" |
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07 May 2005 12:24:59 PM |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy ???)
Well, he's a winner and you're a loser. Enough said.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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07 May 2005 06:18:47 PM |
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On 07 May 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy
???)
Well, he's a winner and you're a loser. Enough said.
I wasn't aware the kindergarten computers had internet connections...
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't think
there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and parading
around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face white and
praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges £500m to rebuild faith-based schools |
08 May 2005 07:27:50 AM |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 18:18:47 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
On 07 May 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy
???)
Well, he's a winner and you're a loser. Enough said.
I wasn't aware the kindergarten computers had internet connections...
What did you think you were playing with, poopsie?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A3500m_to_rebuild?==?ISO-8859-1?Q?_faith-based_schools?= |
08 May 2005 05:24:47 AM |
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Vic Sagerquist wrote:
On 07 May 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy
???)
Well, he's a winner and you're a loser. Enough said.
I wasn't aware the kindergarten computers had internet connections...
Well, I kill-filed Duke ages ago, nice to know he still attempts to
<Cough>... urm...Communicate !
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges £500m to rebuild faith-based schools |
08 May 2005 12:25:30 PM |
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On 08 May 2005, Jez dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Vic Sagerquist wrote:
On 07 May 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to
copy ???)
Well, he's a winner and you're a loser. Enough said.
I wasn't aware the kindergarten computers had internet connections...
Well, I kill-filed Duke ages ago, nice to know he still attempts to
<Cough>... urm...Communicate !
I found that killfiling him was futile because of the volume of people
who still respond to his self-indulgent posts.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't
think there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and
parading around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face
white and praying to a rock." [Howard Stern]
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges £500m to rebuild faith-based schools |
08 May 2005 07:29:06 AM |
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 11:24:47 +0100, Jez <iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
Vic Sagerquist wrote:
On 07 May 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to copy
???)
Well, he's a winner and you're a loser. Enough said.
I wasn't aware the kindergarten computers had internet connections...
Well, I kill-filed Duke ages ago, nice to know he still attempts to
<Cough>... urm...Communicate !
I was wondering why I didn't have you to laugh about any more.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Iain" |
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12 May 2005 12:17:31 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:18:14 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com> wrote:
More fucking madness from New Labour.........
(Is there any stupid damn American idea Tiny Blur doesn't want to
copy ???)
Well, he's a winner and you're a loser. Enough said.
You're happy about more Muslim schools?
~Iain
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| User: "Voice of Truth International Church" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A3500m_to_rebuild?==?ISO-8859-1?Q?_faith-based_schools?= |
07 May 2005 07:27:34 AM |
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This is good. We need less secular schools.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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07 May 2005 08:21:16 AM |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:27:34 +0100 in alt.atheism, Voice of Truth
International Church (Voice of Truth International Church
<news@votic.org>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
This is good. We need less secular schools.
No doubt Abu Hamza al-Masri shares your opinion, which is very
ecumenical on this point, at least...
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges =?iso-8859-1?b?ozUwMG0=?= to rebuild faith-based schools |
07 May 2005 10:02:25 PM |
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In our last episode <EtudnXVP1IysKeHfRVnygw@giganews.com>, Voice of Truth
International Church pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare
proclaimed:
This is good. We need less secular schools.
You mean like Iran...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: New Labour pledges =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A3500m_to_rebuild?==?ISO-8859-1?Q?_faith-based_schools?= |
07 May 2005 08:09:29 AM |
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Voice of Truth International Church wrote:
This is good. We need less secular schools.
We sure-as-***** don't need any fucking 'Faith-Based', schools !
Education standards are low enough in this country as it is, the last
thing we need is for the
religious morons to run the show !!
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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| User: "Iain" |
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12 May 2005 01:02:28 PM |
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What does he mean by re-build? How are they unbuilt? If he means
physically, I don't care and am even glad.
~Iain
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