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"Mike Painter" |
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17 May 2005 08:41:40 PM |
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OT New Math revelation |
Note to anyone under 40 reading this. Remember it the next time somebody
talks about how good the larning they got was.
I do volunteer work for gleaners and at 64 am one of the kids. Today the
crewchief said that if the last number of you ID was even you would go
through the line first, then the odd numbers at your station would go
through.
Being the smart ***** that I am, when she asked for questions I asked what we
should do if the last digit was neither odd nor even.
I expected *somebody* to get it. It caused a brief uproar with one loud
voice telling me I was an idiot in no uncertain terms.
SO:
1. Zero is now a number and,
2. Zero is an even number.
We sur got a good education back in the old days.
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| User: "Jim07D5" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
18 May 2005 04:27:47 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> said:
Note to anyone under 40 reading this. Remember it the next time somebody
talks about how good the larning they got was.
I do volunteer work for gleaners and at 64 am one of the kids. Today the
crewchief said that if the last number of you ID was even you would go
through the line first, then the odd numbers at your station would go
through.
Being the smart ***** that I am, when she asked for questions I asked what we
should do if the last digit was neither odd nor even.
I expected *somebody* to get it. It caused a brief uproar with one loud
voice telling me I was an idiot in no uncertain terms.
SO:
1. Zero is now a number and,
2. Zero is an even number.
We sur got a good education back in the old days.
Here's another: is zero a prime number?
Jim07D5
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
17 May 2005 10:15:46 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:o3xie.18425$J12.15349@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
Note to anyone under 40 reading this. Remember it the next time somebody
talks about how good the larning they got was.
I do volunteer work for gleaners and at 64 am one of the kids. Today the
crewchief said that if the last number of you ID was even you would go
through the line first, then the odd numbers at your station would go
through.
Being the smart ***** that I am, when she asked for questions I asked what
we
should do if the last digit was neither odd nor even.
I expected *somebody* to get it. It caused a brief uproar with one loud
voice telling me I was an idiot in no uncertain terms.
SO:
1. Zero is now a number and,
2. Zero is an even number.
We sur got a good education back in the old days.
Hmmm... I'm 48, and I don't remember that. But I do remember being
fascinated learning about boolean algebra, set theory, Venn diagrams, and
non-base-ten numbers in 4th grade. Strange, it's one of the few really clear
memories I have of my school days.
I also remember being fascinated by seeing applications of those ideas in
QuickDraw, the original Macintosh graphics programming api. I always
wondered if the Macintosh came about because Bill Atkinson and Andy
Hertzfeld got caught in that brief foray into teaching the so-called "New
Math" in the early 60s.
See, education IS important. Kids always ask "why do I have to learn this?
I'll never use it!" but to me it's like populations which survive by
spawning many more offspring than will ever survive, just to make sure
sufficient numbers make it to spawn the next generation. You have to teach
kids good stuff because you never know when it's going light a fire under
somebody.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
18 May 2005 09:03:40 AM |
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(You *knew* I would come up with a Tom Lehrer response)
You can't take three from two,
Two is less than three,
So you look at the four in the tens place.
Now that's really four tens,
So you make it three tens,
Regroup, and you change a ten to ten ones,
And you add them to the two and get twelve,
And you take away three, that's nine.
Is that clear?
Now instead of four in the tens place
You've got three,
'Cause you added one,
That is to say, ten, to the two,
But you can't take seven from three,
So you look in the hundreds place.
From the three you then use one
To make ten ones...
(And you know why four plus minus one
Plus ten is fourteen minus one?
'Cause addition is commutative, right.)
And so you have thirteen tens,
And you take away seven,
And that leaves five...
Well, six actually.
But the idea is the important thing.
Now go back to the hundreds place,
And you're left with two.
And you take away one from two,
And that leaves...?
Everybody get one?
Not bad for the first day!
Hooray for new math,
New-hoo-hoo-math,
It won't do you a bit of good to review math.
It's so simple,
So very simple,
That only a child can do it!
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe
in one fewer god than you do. When you understand
why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you
will understand why I dismiss yours."
-Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
18 May 2005 11:45:36 AM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Note to anyone under 40 reading this. Remember it the next time somebody
talks about how good the larning they got was.
I do volunteer work for gleaners and at 64 am one of the kids. Today the
crewchief said that if the last number of you ID was even you would go
through the line first, then the odd numbers at your station would go
through.
Being the smart ***** that I am, when she asked for questions I asked what
we should do if the last digit was neither odd nor even.
I expected *somebody* to get it. It caused a brief uproar with one loud
voice telling me I was an idiot in no uncertain terms.
SO:
1. Zero is now a number and,
It's been a number for at least the past few centuries. It's even included
in the Natural numbers these days.
2. Zero is an even number.
That's right.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EvenNumber.html
We sur got a good education back in the old days.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
17 May 2005 08:51:33 PM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Note to anyone under 40 reading this. Remember it the next time somebody
talks about how good the larning they got was.
I do volunteer work for gleaners and at 64 am one of the kids. Today the
crewchief said that if the last number of you ID was even you would go
through the line first, then the odd numbers at your station would go
through.
Being the smart ***** that I am, when she asked for questions I asked what we
should do if the last digit was neither odd nor even.
I expected *somebody* to get it. It caused a brief uproar with one loud
voice telling me I was an idiot in no uncertain terms.
SO:
1. Zero is now a number and,
2. Zero is an even number.
We sur got a good education back in the old days.
As far as I remember, neither 0 or 1 are prime. Yet, I was told IRL
just today that 1 was a prime number.
'merikin Edjucashen Sistim at work... :-P
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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17 May 2005 09:30:07 PM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in news:Fcxie.207$cd.149
@trnddc01:
As far as I remember, neither 0 or 1 are prime. Yet, I was told IRL
just today that 1 was a prime number.
If you'd been in *my* class last week, you'd know that a prime number has
exactly two distinct whole number factors. One has one distinct factor, so
it is not prime. Zero has infinitely many whole number factors, so it is
not prime.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplin and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"My father crapped bigger ones than George Bush," says the former
president's son, in a flame-throwing conversation about the war and the
Bush administration's efforts to lay claim to the Reagan legacy.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
17 May 2005 10:23:46 PM |
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Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in news:Fcxie.207$cd.149
@trnddc01:
As far as I remember, neither 0 or 1 are prime. Yet, I was told IRL
just today that 1 was a prime number.
If you'd been in *my* class last week, you'd know that a prime number
has exactly two distinct whole number factors. One has one distinct
factor, so it is not prime. Zero has infinitely many whole number
factors, so it is not prime.
And if you were in *church* last Sunday you would know that 1 + 1 +1 = 1 so
clearly the one you are dividing by may be distinct from the one that you
divide so one is prime. As is 1 and 1 and 1.
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
17 May 2005 11:00:04 PM |
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TV's Mike Painter wrote:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in news:Fcxie.207$cd.149
@trnddc01:
As far as I remember, neither 0 or 1 are prime. Yet, I was told IRL
just today that 1 was a prime number.
If you'd been in *my* class last week, you'd know that a prime number
has exactly two distinct whole number factors. One has one distinct
factor, so it is not prime. Zero has infinitely many whole number
factors, so it is not prime.
And if you were in *church* last Sunday you would know that 1 + 1 +1 = 1
so
clearly the one you are dividing by may be distinct from the one that you
divide so one is prime. As is 1 and 1 and 1.
And you would have learned that pi = 3.0.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT New Math revelation |
20 May 2005 12:15:26 PM |
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 01:41:40 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Note to anyone under 40 reading this. Remember it the next time somebody
talks about how good the larning they got was.
I do volunteer work for gleaners and at 64 am one of the kids. Today the
crewchief said that if the last number of you ID was even you would go
through the line first, then the odd numbers at your station would go
through.
Being the smart ***** that I am, when she asked for questions I asked what we
should do if the last digit was neither odd nor even.
Clearly, they don't eat. :)))))
I expected *somebody* to get it. It caused a brief uproar with one loud
voice telling me I was an idiot in no uncertain terms.
SO:
1. Zero is now a number and,
2. Zero is an even number.
We sur got a good education back in the old days.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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