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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Therion Ware"
Date: 01 May 2004 01:27:20 AM
Object: OT: New UK sex laws come into force
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm
I most amused to see that bestiality and necrophilia become specific
offences for the first time. But apparently screwing a dead animal is
just fine.. though where flogging a dead horse stands remains to be
seen...
See also
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3672591.stm
"Teenage kissing: The new sexcrime?"
Yet another wonderful example of legislation that depends on the
reasonable and moderate nature of the authorities for its fair
implementation.
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User: "SMChristenson"

Title: Re: OT: New UK sex laws come into force 01 May 2004 09:49:20 AM
On Sat, 01 May 2004 07:27:20 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm

I most amused to see that bestiality and necrophilia become specific
offences for the first time. But apparently screwing a dead animal is

Probably none too soon. Folks getting jaded with Thai kiddy sex tours?
Could the Brit necrophilia tour be far behind? The tourism industry needs
something right now.
Seriously, I really hate "feel good" laws that they apparently only intend
to selectively enforce.
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User: "Eric Pepke"

Title: Re: OT: New UK sex laws come into force 06 May 2004 07:06:48 AM
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<ueg690pf7s165lth99tgsoi88pq05puvq0@4ax.com>...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm

I most amused to see that bestiality and necrophilia become specific
offences for the first time. But apparently screwing a dead animal is
just fine.. though where flogging a dead horse stands remains to be
seen...

It is legal to get condoms made from lamb membranes.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT: New UK sex laws come into force 06 May 2004 07:16:02 AM
On 6 May 2004 05:06:48 -0700 in alt.atheism, Eric Pepke
(epepke@acm.org (Eric Pepke)) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism

Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<ueg690pf7s165lth99tgsoi88pq05puvq0@4ax.com>...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm

I most amused to see that bestiality and necrophilia become specific
offences for the first time. But apparently screwing a dead animal is
just fine.. though where flogging a dead horse stands remains to be
seen...


It is legal to get condoms made from lamb membranes.

I'm sure a QC would be willing to give an opinion for a couple of
grand....
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User: "Jenny6833A"

Title: Re: OT: New UK sex laws come into force 01 May 2004 12:42:20 PM
Therion Ware
says

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm

If accurately represented by the BBC, some of the new laws are ludicrous. For
example
"A range of new offences designed to tackle inappropriate sexual activity with
children, including a new offence of causing a child to engage in sexual
activity which will capture behaviour such as persuading children to undress."
So, persuading a children to take a bath (or to shuck the duds on a nude beach)
will now be illegal?
"Updating incest offences to cover not just blood relatives but also foster and
adoptive parents and live-in partners."
Presumably this is about sex with minors. If so, it would seem to mean that
the Brits have no 'child sexual abuse laws.' It's hard to understand how sex
with a minor who is not related by blood qualifies as *incest.*
"Voyeurs will face prosecution if they spy on someone else for their sexual
gratification."
As written, it's not clear whether the sexual gratification is that of the
watcher or the watchee.
What if the watching is done openly, without spying? What if there's no sexual
gratification? How can anyone tell?
Does this mean that gawkers at a nudist place are breaking a law?
And finally, the bit about internet 'grooming' seemed damn vague. Are we no
longer permitted to talk to children online? If not, how on earth are we
supposed to know who is or isn't a child?
:-)
Jenny
Before emailing, remove Clothes
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User: "Ineedmoney"

Title: Re: OT: New UK sex laws come into force 05 May 2004 07:29:22 PM
"Jenny6833A" <jenny6833a@aol.comClothes> wrote in message
news:20040501134220.05832.00000433@mb-m03.aol.com...

Therion Ware

says

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3675057.stm


If accurately represented by the BBC, some of the new laws are ludicrous.

For

example

"A range of new offences designed to tackle inappropriate sexual activity

with

children, including a new offence of causing a child to engage in sexual
activity which will capture behaviour such as persuading children to

undress."


So, persuading a children to take a bath (or to shuck the duds on a nude

beach)

will now be illegal?

"Updating incest offences to cover not just blood relatives but also

foster and

adoptive parents and live-in partners."

Presumably this is about sex with minors. If so, it would seem to mean

that

the Brits have no 'child sexual abuse laws.' It's hard to understand how

sex

with a minor who is not related by blood qualifies as *incest.*

"Voyeurs will face prosecution if they spy on someone else for their

sexual

gratification."

As written, it's not clear whether the sexual gratification is that of the
watcher or the watchee.

What if the watching is done openly, without spying? What if there's no

sexual

gratification? How can anyone tell?

Does this mean that gawkers at a nudist place are breaking a law?

And finally, the bit about internet 'grooming' seemed damn vague. Are we

no

longer permitted to talk to children online? If not, how on earth are we
supposed to know who is or isn't a child?

:-)

Jenny

Before emailing, remove Clothes

LOL< nice one jenny. Its amazing these laws get passed at all.
Ed
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