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"Gregory Gadow" |
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02 Jul 2004 09:00:32 AM |
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OT: No Daleks?! |
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
No Daleks in Doctor Who's return
The BBC has confirmed the Daleks will not appear in its new Doctor Who
series after a failure to agree terms.
Talks between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation,
who created the Daleks, broke down over issues of editorial control.
A BBC spokeswoman said: "After lengthy negotiations, the BBC and Terry
Nation have been unable to reach an agreement on the terms of the use of
the Daleks."
The Terry Nation estate said it was "bitterly disappointed".
The metal monsters were voted TV's most evil villains in a poll last
year.
Fans had hoped to see the Daleks' return in the series, scheduled for
release on BBC One in early 2005, but feared copyright issues might
stand in the way.
The BBC spokeswoman said: "The BBC offered the very best deal possible
but ultimately we were not able to give the level of editorial influence
that the Terry Nation estate wished to have."
But an agent for the Nation estate accused the BBC of ignoring copyright
laws and said the corporation was trying to "ruin the brand of the
Daleks".
Agent Tim Hancock, who represents the Nation estate, said: "We wanted
the same level of control over the Daleks that we have enjoyed for the
last 40 years.
"If the BBC wanted to re-make any of George Lucas' films, you can bet
George Lucas would have something to say about it. "
Mr Hancock accused the BBC of lying about the reasons a deal had not
been made.
He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay
Daleks for BBC Three.
He also said the corporation had allowed Warner Bros to use the Daleks
in the recent movie Loony Tunes without consulting the Terry Nation
estate.
"We want to protect the integrity of the brand," he said.
Mr Hancock said the estate would be willing to make a new deal if the
BBC accepted the arrangement that had been in place for the last 40
years.
Writer Russell T Davies said he was "disappointed" by the decision but
it would not affect the success of the series.
He said: "We are reinventing Doctor Who for a 21st Century audience with
a fantastic writing team and exciting new challenges.
"We are disappointed that the Daleks will not be included but we have a
number of new and exciting monsters.
"And I can confirm we have created a new enemy for the Doctor which will
keep viewers on the edge of their seats."
As Doctor Who's sworn enemies, the Daleks were voted the most evil
villains on television in a vote by more than 3,000 GMTV viewers in
2003.
Christopher Eccleston, star of films like Shallow Grave and The Others,
has been confirmed as the new Doctor Who.
Former pop star Billie Piper has been chosen to play his sidekick Rose
Tyler.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is
tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering, http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm
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02 Jul 2004 06:34:09 PM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net...
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay
Daleks for BBC Three.
Gay Daleks??
*confused hetero person*
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| User: "NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce" |
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03 Jul 2004 06:24:49 PM |
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"NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote in message
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net...
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay
Daleks for BBC Three.
Gay Daleks??
*confused hetero person*
*REDECORATE REDECORATE....JOOJ THE HUMANS*
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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03 Jul 2004 09:45:52 PM |
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"NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote in message
news:40e5f060$0$25464$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net...
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay
Daleks for BBC Three.
Gay Daleks??
*confused hetero person*
Maybe back when they were humanoids and not blobs in a metal
wheelchair?
Nah. I think someone is pulling your leg. Or, you are trying to
pulls ours.
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| User: "NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce" |
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04 Jul 2004 02:30:57 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote in message
news:40e5f060$0$25464$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net...
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay
Daleks for BBC Three.
Gay Daleks??
*confused hetero person*
Maybe back when they were humanoids and not blobs in a metal
wheelchair?
Nah. I think someone is pulling your leg. Or, you are trying to
pulls ours.
I suppose if you're a shapeless blob you can pretty much put anything
anywhere!
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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02 Jul 2004 10:55:14 AM |
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A BBC spokeswoman said: "After lengthy negotiations, the BBC and Terry
Nation have been unable to reach an agreement on the terms of the use of
the Daleks."
Exterminate the lawyers! Exterminate! Exterminate!
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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02 Jul 2004 11:54:50 AM |
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In article <20040702115514.04299.00000931@mb-m15.aol.com>, Lord Calvert says...
A BBC spokeswoman said: "After lengthy negotiations, the BBC and Terry
Nation have been unable to reach an agreement on the terms of the use of
the Daleks."
Exterminate the lawyers! Exterminate! Exterminate!
ROTFL ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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02 Jul 2004 12:48:16 PM |
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forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040702115514.04299.00000931@mb-m15.aol.com:
A BBC spokeswoman said: "After lengthy negotiations, the BBC and Terry
Nation have been unable to reach an agreement on the terms of the use
of the Daleks."
Exterminate the lawyers! Exterminate! Exterminate!
I OH-BAY. *rolls down a ramp and goes to the hunt*
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"It is interesting to note that the death
penalty for individuals is less controversial
than the mere suggestion that a few corporations
may have forfeited their right to exist. How many
people does a company have to harm before we question
if it ought to exist?"
-- Paul Hawken
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| User: "Billy Goat" |
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02 Jul 2004 08:54:47 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message news:<40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>...
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
No Daleks in Doctor Who's return
The BBC has confirmed the Daleks will not appear in its new Doctor Who
series after a failure to agree terms.
As a fan, I know I should be disappointed, but I can't really muster
up the proper level of outrage. The Daleks are simply too cheesy for
audiences to accept today.
Plus, I'm still too excited over the announcement that they're
bringing back the *Autons*!
--Billy
(Eldrad must live)
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| User: "Sean C" |
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03 Jul 2004 01:43:35 PM |
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In article <6bd3c70a.0407021754.1611117e@posting.google.com>, Billy
Goat <ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:<40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>...
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
No Daleks in Doctor Who's return
The BBC has confirmed the Daleks will not appear in its new Doctor Who
series after a failure to agree terms.
As a fan, I know I should be disappointed, but I can't really muster
up the proper level of outrage. The Daleks are simply too cheesy for
audiences to accept today.
I don't know. They thought Godzilla was too cheesy, but it was his
cheesiness that made him cool. If they do bring the Daleks back, I
hope they don't come up with some fancy-schmansy, VW Beetle
rip-off-looking thing to replace the original design. It just won't be
Doctor Who without the daleks.
Plus, I'm still too excited over the announcement that they're
bringing back the *Autons*!
You mean, that collector's edition Barbie in my closet might be a...NO!
YAAAARGGGGH!
I'll bet the CGI people are going to have a field day with that. Oh,
the horror!
Sean C
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| User: "Budikka" |
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05 Jul 2004 02:07:17 PM |
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Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message news:<40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>...
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
No Daleks in Doctor Who's return
The BBC has confirmed the Daleks will not appear in its new Doctor Who
series after a failure to agree terms.
Now you know the Daleks never agree to terms for anything but their
own benefit, and even then they go back on the agreement!
On the other hand, didn't Sylvester McCoy defeat them? How could they
return?!!
He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay
Daleks for BBC Three.
That I'd love to see!
Dalek 1: HOW ABOUT IT BIG BOY? YOU KNOW I ONLY HAVE EYE-STICK FOR
YOU.
Dalek 2: GET YOUR DIRTY SUCKER AWAY FROM ME!
Dalek 1: OH LET ME FONDLE YOUR BUMPS! YOU ELECTRIFY ME!
"We are disappointed that the Daleks will not be included but we have a
number of new and exciting monsters.
Will they have zippers up their spine like the old ones?!
"And I can confirm we have created a new enemy for the Doctor which will
keep viewers on the edge of their seats."
It's an over-stuffed seat cushion!
Former pop star Billie Piper has been chosen to play his sidekick Rose
Tyler.
Are you kididng? I thought this was primarily a children's show! is
the series finally growing up?
Budikka
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| User: "johac" |
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03 Jul 2004 03:34:19 AM |
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In article <40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>,
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Reprinted in full from
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3859651.stm
No Daleks in Doctor Who's return
The BBC has confirmed the Daleks will not appear in its new Doctor Who
series after a failure to agree terms.
Talks between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation,
who created the Daleks, broke down over issues of editorial control.
A BBC spokeswoman said: "After lengthy negotiations, the BBC and Terry
Nation have been unable to reach an agreement on the terms of the use of
the Daleks."
The Terry Nation estate said it was "bitterly disappointed".
The metal monsters were voted TV's most evil villains in a poll last
year.
Fans had hoped to see the Daleks' return in the series, scheduled for
release on BBC One in early 2005, but feared copyright issues might
stand in the way.
The BBC spokeswoman said: "The BBC offered the very best deal possible
but ultimately we were not able to give the level of editorial influence
that the Terry Nation estate wished to have."
But an agent for the Nation estate accused the BBC of ignoring copyright
laws and said the corporation was trying to "ruin the brand of the
Daleks".
Agent Tim Hancock, who represents the Nation estate, said: "We wanted
the same level of control over the Daleks that we have enjoyed for the
last 40 years.
"If the BBC wanted to re-make any of George Lucas' films, you can bet
George Lucas would have something to say about it. "
Mr Hancock accused the BBC of lying about the reasons a deal had not
been made.
He said the BBC had tried to commission a cartoon series about gay
Daleks for BBC Three.
He also said the corporation had allowed Warner Bros to use the Daleks
in the recent movie Loony Tunes without consulting the Terry Nation
estate.
"We want to protect the integrity of the brand," he said.
Mr Hancock said the estate would be willing to make a new deal if the
BBC accepted the arrangement that had been in place for the last 40
years.
Writer Russell T Davies said he was "disappointed" by the decision but
it would not affect the success of the series.
He said: "We are reinventing Doctor Who for a 21st Century audience with
a fantastic writing team and exciting new challenges.
"We are disappointed that the Daleks will not be included but we have a
number of new and exciting monsters.
"And I can confirm we have created a new enemy for the Doctor which will
keep viewers on the edge of their seats."
As Doctor Who's sworn enemies, the Daleks were voted the most evil
villains on television in a vote by more than 3,000 GMTV viewers in
2003.
Christopher Eccleston, star of films like Shallow Grave and The Others,
has been confirmed as the new Doctor Who.
Former pop star Billie Piper has been chosen to play his sidekick Rose
Tyler.
Dang! How can it be Dr. Who without Daleks?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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04 Jul 2004 02:29:21 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-5ACCBE.01341903072004@news.giganews.com...
In article <40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>,
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Former pop star Billie Piper has been chosen to play his sidekick Rose
Tyler.
Dang! How can it be Dr. Who without Daleks?
How about the Cybermen? They still available?
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| User: "johac" |
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05 Jul 2004 12:38:04 AM |
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In article <40e7b12e$0$18669$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
"NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-5ACCBE.01341903072004@news.giganews.com...
In article <40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>,
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Former pop star Billie Piper has been chosen to play his sidekick Rose
Tyler.
Dang! How can it be Dr. Who without Daleks?
How about the Cybermen? They still available?
How about the Silurians?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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03 Jul 2004 06:06:03 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:00:32 -0700 in episode <40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>
we saw our hero Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>:
Talks between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation,
who created the Daleks, broke down over issues of editorial control.
They were afraid maybe the BBC would sully the Dalek reputation?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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03 Jul 2004 08:03:23 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:06:03 -0500 in alt.atheism, Mark K. Bilbo
("Mark K. Bilbo" <inv@lid_email.no>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:00:32 -0700 in episode <40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>
we saw our hero Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>:
Talks between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation,
who created the Daleks, broke down over issues of editorial control.
They were afraid maybe the BBC would sully the Dalek reputation?
Heh. Mind you there's quite a good FAQ on the new series here:
http://www.gallifreyone.com/newseriesfaq.php
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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03 Jul 2004 08:09:20 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:03:23 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:06:03 -0500 in alt.atheism, Mark K. Bilbo
("Mark K. Bilbo" <inv@lid_email.no>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:00:32 -0700 in episode <40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>
we saw our hero Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>:
Talks between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation,
who created the Daleks, broke down over issues of editorial control.
They were afraid maybe the BBC would sully the Dalek reputation?
Heh. Mind you there's quite a good FAQ on the new series here:
http://www.gallifreyone.com/newseriesfaq.php
But didn't Sylvester McCoy and Ace destroy the Daleks with the hand of
Omega?
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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04 Jul 2004 12:25:48 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 01:09:20 GMT in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:03:23 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:06:03 -0500 in alt.atheism, Mark K. Bilbo
("Mark K. Bilbo" <inv@lid_email.no>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:00:32 -0700 in episode <40E56A80.944864AE@serv.net>
we saw our hero Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>:
Talks between the BBC and the estate of late sci-fi writer Terry Nation,
who created the Daleks, broke down over issues of editorial control.
They were afraid maybe the BBC would sully the Dalek reputation?
Heh. Mind you there's quite a good FAQ on the new series here:
http://www.gallifreyone.com/newseriesfaq.php
But didn't Sylvester McCoy and Ace destroy the Daleks with the hand of
Omega?
I am happy to say that I have absolutely no idea!
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
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| User: "raven1" |
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03 Jul 2004 02:13:37 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:00:32 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
No Daleks in Doctor Who's return
What?!? They might as well leave out the TARDIS while they're at it.
Exterminate! Exterminate! ...
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