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"Therion Ware" |
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24 Sep 2003 10:28:31 AM |
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OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
The source told the presenter of BBC television's Daily Politics show,
Andrew Neil, this was the conclusion of the Iraq Survey Group's
[for details about the ISG see
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030530-0231.html ; TW]
interim report, which the source said was due to be published next
month.
Full Story at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3135932.stm
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
24 Sep 2003 10:55:31 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq
I am shocked!
So the Bush, Blair and Howard governments all lied about the reasons
for war with Iraq.
Gee, couldn't see that coming!
SO if WMD were not the actual reason for the war, but merely the
justification that was fabricated for the purposes of public
consumption...
What where the actual reasons?
The reasons that the USA went to war with Iraq?
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(1) Ideological imperatives -
Pro Israeli - make the middle east safe for israel.
Pro use of military power.
Distrust / dislike of UN.
Might makes right - "we have all this POWER let's use it to "fix" the
middle east for Israel..."
(These people are insane enough to believe its possible...)
(2) Domestic imperatives - people get behind the leader in times of
trouble - "right or wrong" - distraction from disastrous domestic
policy - huge budget deficits, corporate welfare etc.
Sow "fear and doubt" - get reelected!
(3) Securing Oil Reserves - place them in the control of a US friendly
regime. (this is probably just an "incidental bonus" in the minds of
most of the administration.)
....
Etc.
The ACTUAL reason Australia/(Britain?) went to war?
The USA is powerful - it is the only current Superpower (although
China's day is dawning) Get behind the USA - no matter what.
(Back / follow the USA "right or wrong")
If the USA starts wars - lessens the authority of the UN - creates
opportunity for the spread of terrorism and increases the instability
of the middle east - possibly for generations - Doesn't matter - Back
them anyway - If the world goes to ***** we will be "best friends" with
the biggest, baddest, bully in the schoolyard!
Oh! And we hope to get preferential trade deals out of it too (free
trade agreement).
It's a terrible gamble.
It is short sighted and stupid.
(Deceitful and immoral go without saying...)
Mark.
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Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
25 Sep 2003 07:35:25 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
Who woulda thought? Oh wait, me for one...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Mike Ruskai" |
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| Title: Re: OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
24 Sep 2003 01:49:37 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
[snip]
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action was
justified, even if there were such weapons.
There are a number of not-so-friendly (to the US) nations with nuclear
weapons. It seems to me that we'd have to attack them as well for the
logic to be consistent.
It seems, however, that people are too caught up with whether or not Iraq
has the weapons to ask whether it actually matters.
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Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
24 Sep 2003 02:54:12 PM |
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Mike Ruskai wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
[snip]
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action was
justified, even if there were such weapons.
Which someone are you waiting for? Bush and Blair have given their
explanations, many times.
There are a number of not-so-friendly (to the US) nations with nuclear
weapons. It seems to me that we'd have to attack them as well for the
logic to be consistent.
Who ever said that politicians have to be consistent?
It seems, however, that people are too caught up with whether or not Iraq
has the weapons to ask whether it actually matters.
It doesn't actually matter, except that grand strategy is too
complicated to explain to Sam Donaldson or Tim Russert.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
25 Sep 2003 12:30:55 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action
was justified, even if there were such weapons.
Which someone are you waiting for? Bush and Blair have
given their explanations, many times.
Maybe he's waiting for somebody that doesn't base their reasoning
on lies, and doesn't change their answer more often than they
change their underwear.
Come, "Fred," do you honestly believe that Bush has announced
his true reasons for going to war?
You couldn't be that stupid, could you?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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25 Sep 2003 09:57:54 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action
was justified, even if there were such weapons.
Which someone are you waiting for? Bush and Blair have
given their explanations, many times.
Maybe he's waiting for somebody that doesn't base their reasoning
on lies, and doesn't change their answer more often than they
change their underwear.
Then he should listen to Bush and/or Blair instead of the spin from the
media about them.
Come, "Fred," do you honestly believe that Bush has announced
his true reasons for going to war?
Over and over again.
You couldn't be that stupid, could you?
And you're *sooooo* smart?
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Yang, Fairer Than Fox and More Balanced than John Pointdexter" |
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25 Sep 2003 01:27:04 AM |
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:54:12 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Mike Ruskai wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
[snip]
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action was
justified, even if there were such weapons.
Which someone are you waiting for? Bush and Blair have given their
explanations, many times.
There are a number of not-so-friendly (to the US) nations with nuclear
weapons. It seems to me that we'd have to attack them as well for the
logic to be consistent.
Who ever said that politicians have to be consistent?
It seems, however, that people are too caught up with whether or not Iraq
has the weapons to ask whether it actually matters.
It doesn't actually matter, except that grand strategy is too
complicated to explain to Sam Donaldson or Tim Russert.
30 to 40 GI deaths ago you gleefully proclaim (via a Fox news
clipping) saying that we're merely at the 'mopping up stage'. How many
more GI's would have to die before you realize you are wrong?
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Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balance' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -304 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
25 Sep 2003 07:36:08 PM |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 06:27:04 +0000, Yang, Fairer Than Fox and More
Balanced than John Pointdexter wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:54:12 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Mike Ruskai wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
[snip]
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action was
justified, even if there were such weapons.
Which someone are you waiting for? Bush and Blair have given their
explanations, many times.
There are a number of not-so-friendly (to the US) nations with nuclear
weapons. It seems to me that we'd have to attack them as well for the
logic to be consistent.
Who ever said that politicians have to be consistent?
It seems, however, that people are too caught up with whether or not Iraq
has the weapons to ask whether it actually matters.
It doesn't actually matter, except that grand strategy is too
complicated to explain to Sam Donaldson or Tim Russert.
30 to 40 GI deaths ago you gleefully proclaim (via a Fox news
clipping) saying that we're merely at the 'mopping up stage'. How many
more GI's would have to die before you realize you are wrong?
Wonder what Stone is going to rattle on about after Bush is thrown out of
office...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "JTEM" |
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25 Sep 2003 09:51:13 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote
Wonder what Stone is going to rattle on about after
Bush is thrown out of office...
The "great economy," the enormous "victory in Iraq" and
Cheney's honesty...
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: No WMD In Iraq - So Far - Says Iraq Survey Group. |
25 Sep 2003 11:09:20 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote
Wonder what Stone is going to rattle on about after
Bush is thrown out of office...
The "great economy," the enormous "victory in Iraq" and
Cheney's honesty...
Don't be silly. If Bush loses, I'm sure his successor will give me
plenty of current material.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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26 Sep 2003 01:28:25 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Don't be silly. If Bush loses, I'm sure his successor will
give me plenty of current material.
Doubtful, considering that you're still stuck on Saddam's
imaginary WMDs.... *Way* behind the times there, "Fred."
No, you're just a vile little *****, a ***** boy hiding behind
his computer to poke fun at the thousands of dead (hundreds
of Americans included).
You're a sick mother fucker.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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26 Sep 2003 01:54:03 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Don't be silly. If Bush loses, I'm sure his successor will
give me plenty of current material.
Doubtful, considering that you're still stuck on Saddam's
imaginary WMDs.
More evidence of your own stuckness, JTEM.
... *Way* behind the times there, "Fred."
There goes another irony meter.
No, you're just a vile little *****, a ***** boy hiding behind
his computer to poke fun at the thousands of dead (hundreds
of Americans included).
You're a sick mother fucker.
Aww, I love you too, JTEM.
<SMOOOOOOOOOOOCH>
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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26 Sep 2003 02:24:23 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Doubtful, considering that you're still stuck on Saddam's
imaginary WMDs.
More evidence of your own stuckness, JTEM.
Come on, *****, show us those WMDs!
What are you waiting for?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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26 Sep 2003 04:10:48 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Doubtful, considering that you're still stuck on Saddam's
imaginary WMDs.
More evidence of your own stuckness, JTEM.
Come on, *****, show us those WMDs!
Yep, you're stuck all right.
What are you waiting for?
For you to get unstuck.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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26 Sep 2003 10:25:03 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Come on, *****, show us those WMDs!
Yep, you're stuck all right.
Does that mean that you now admit that you were wrong?
Come on, ***** boy, admit that you were wrong.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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27 Sep 2003 10:46:57 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Come on, *****, show us those WMDs!
Yep, you're stuck all right.
Does that mean that you now admit that you were wrong?
Come on, ***** boy, admit that you were wrong.
What are you, a bot? You got anything besides canned responses?
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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27 Sep 2003 06:08:17 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
What are you, a bot? You got anything besides canned responses?
Come on, ***** boy, let's see you respond. Were you wrong when
you supported the claims about Iraqi WMDs? Yes or no. Were you
wrong?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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27 Sep 2003 06:23:23 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
What are you, a bot? You got anything besides canned responses?
Come on, ***** boy, let's see you respond. Were you wrong when
you supported the claims about Iraqi WMDs? Yes or no. Were you
wrong?
Why are you so determined to prove that *you* are stuck on the WMD question?
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "JTEM" |
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27 Sep 2003 06:41:16 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Come on, ***** boy, let's see you respond. Were you wrong when
you supported the claims about Iraqi WMDs? Yes or no. Were you
wrong?
Why are you so determined to prove that *you* are stuck on the
WMD question?
Go on, you worthless little ***** slit, answer the question.
What, haven't the guts? You're oh so big & brave when it comes to
poking fun at the untolled suffering of thousands, but you ***** yourself
like a little girl when it comes time to admit your errors?
No surprise there.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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27 Sep 2003 07:37:13 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Come on, ***** boy, let's see you respond. Were you wrong when
you supported the claims about Iraqi WMDs? Yes or no. Were you
wrong?
Why are you so determined to prove that *you* are stuck on the
WMD question?
Go on, you worthless little ***** slit, answer the question.
I was asking you, but I guess you're so determined because it's all
you've got.
What, haven't the guts? You're oh so big & brave when it comes to
poking fun at the untolled suffering of thousands,
I'm poking fun at *you*.
but you ***** yourself
like a little girl when it comes time to admit your errors?
Hey, these WMD's are your obsession, not mine.
No surprise there.
Nope, you're the same pompous ***** you've always been.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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27 Sep 2003 11:35:16 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Go on, you worthless little ***** slit, answer the question.
I was asking you,
That's the point, you useless ***** stain. You were supposed to
pretend that you had some balls and *Answer* the question, not
ask a different one.
*****.
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25 Sep 2003 09:49:57 AM |
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Yang, Fairer Than Fox and More Balanced than John Pointdexter wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:54:12 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Mike Ruskai wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
[snip]
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action was
justified, even if there were such weapons.
Which someone are you waiting for? Bush and Blair have given their
explanations, many times.
There are a number of not-so-friendly (to the US) nations with nuclear
weapons. It seems to me that we'd have to attack them as well for the
logic to be consistent.
Who ever said that politicians have to be consistent?
It seems, however, that people are too caught up with whether or not Iraq
has the weapons to ask whether it actually matters.
It doesn't actually matter, except that grand strategy is too
complicated to explain to Sam Donaldson or Tim Russert.
30 to 40 GI deaths ago you gleefully proclaim (via a Fox news
clipping) saying that we're merely at the 'mopping up stage'. How many
more GI's would have to die before you realize you are wrong?
Oh, it's just another of Yang's red herrings.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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25 Sep 2003 09:49:37 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
30 to 40 GI deaths ago you gleefully proclaim (via a Fox news
clipping) saying that we're merely at the 'mopping up stage'.
How many more GI's would have to die before you realize
you are wrong?
Oh, it's just another of Yang's red herrings.
You really are a vile *****. You know that, don't you?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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25 Sep 2003 11:04:42 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
30 to 40 GI deaths ago you gleefully proclaim (via a Fox news
clipping) saying that we're merely at the 'mopping up stage'.
How many more GI's would have to die before you realize
you are wrong?
Oh, it's just another of Yang's red herrings.
You really are a vile *****. You know that, don't you?
Why, thank you, JTEM.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Yang, Fairer Than Fox and More Balanced than John Pointdexter" |
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25 Sep 2003 08:51:35 PM |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:49:57 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
30 to 40 GI deaths ago you gleefully proclaim (via a Fox news
clipping) saying that we're merely at the 'mopping up stage'. How many
more GI's would have to die before you realize you are wrong?
Oh, it's just another of Yang's red herrings.
Can't handle it when someone calls you up on your lies huh?
You *claimed* that it's merely mop-up operatation, just as when Bush
lied about 'mission accomplished' 150 GI deaths ago, when Rumsfeldites
proclaimed that this could be done 'on the cheap' 306 GI deaths and
2000 billion dollars ago, when Wolfwitz claimed that this will be a
quick in-and-out stint even as he now ackowledege at best we will have
to be there til 2004. wehn Bush claimed to have that nonexistent
evidence of the WMD and that phantom connecton to Al Qaeda.
Why are you cons such liars?
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Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balance' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -305 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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25 Sep 2003 11:03:57 PM |
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Yang, Fairer Than Fox and More Balanced than John Pointdexter wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:49:57 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
30 to 40 GI deaths ago you gleefully proclaim (via a Fox news
clipping) saying that we're merely at the 'mopping up stage'. How many
more GI's would have to die before you realize you are wrong?
Oh, it's just another of Yang's red herrings.
Can't handle it when someone calls you up on your lies huh?
You *claimed* that it's merely mop-up operatation,
What the hell are you talking about?
<...>
Why are you such a liar?
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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24 Sep 2003 04:24:00 PM |
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Mike Ruskai wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:28:31 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group
tasked with looking for them, according to a Bush administration
source who has spoken to the BBC.
[snip]
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action was
justified, even if there were such weapons.
If it was justified, it had nothing to do with wmd.
There are a number of not-so-friendly (to the US) nations with nuclear
weapons. It seems to me that we'd have to attack them as well for the
logic to be consistent.
Here you go, assuming that humans ought to be logically consistent.
They aren't. They won't be.
It seems, however, that people are too caught up with whether or not Iraq
has the weapons to ask whether it actually matters.
It never did really matter....
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Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2
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26 Sep 2003 02:57:42 AM |
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:49:37 GMT the ET form known as Mike
Ruskai<spamten.knilhtrae@begonedynnaht.net> sent a radio signal across
the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why military action was
justified, even if there were such weapons.
It was never about WMDs. It was US energy policy being implemented.
That is, smash and grab. The former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia
James Akin accidentally let the cat out of the bag saying that If
Iraqi regime change was followed by change in Saudi Arabia and Iran
then the US would be the "new OPEC". The US could grow its' oil
consumption even after the global Hubbert peak and will be able to
turn on and off any other economy. For the same reason the US wants to
dominate the pipe line building program in the Caspian area to direct
oil and gas away from Russia and especially away from China who also
wants to play in the Caspian. The US is positioning itself for the
post Hubbert peak world with its' shrinking oil production by
controlling the middle east where oil production can still increase at
least for a few years after the global peak. It is all part of the
"full spectrum dominance" agenda of the neocons.
Michael Clare's book "Resource Wars" is recommended.
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conceived." - Isaac Asimov
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http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
RSA - 71 BA 7C 45 B5 4A 5F EA 72 DB EC 7F 7F A8 70 99
DSS - 9217 21A9 9C3F EB0B E302 AD0E 69C5 0F06 402E 0943
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