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27 Aug 2006 12:04:46 AM |
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OT: Noah's Ark Models |
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing how
much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and the website
is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
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"I'm tryin' ta think, but nuttin' happens!" - Curly Howard
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| User: "Dale" |
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27 Aug 2006 04:09:29 PM |
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"VoiceOfReason" <papa_fox@cybertown.com> wrote in message
news:1156686465.133912.23740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing
how
much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and the
website
is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
This is too funny! The thing is like a skyscraper laying on its side.
How long would it take Noah and his three sons to build this thing?
How they managed to find the time while also farming would be an
interesting calculation. Denuding forests for miles around would have
made them unpopular with the neighbors though.
His background screen shows a post-Paul-Bunyan-like scene of trees, tree
stumps, and partly denuded hills. Apparently Noah foresaw the modern
practice of patch cutting rather than clear cutting, environmentally
conscientious as he was.
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| User: "J. J. Lodder" |
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27 Aug 2006 10:13:08 AM |
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VoiceOfReason <papa_fox@cybertown.com> wrote:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing how
much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and the website
is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
This is too funny! The thing is like a skyscraper laying on its side.
How long would it take Noah and his three sons to build this thing?
How they managed to find the time while also farming would be an
interesting calculation. Denuding forests for miles around would have
made them unpopular with the neighbors though.
How do you saw planks without metal tools?
Jan
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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27 Aug 2006 12:19:32 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and (J. J.
Lodder) posting the following on Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:13:08 +0200 iin
alt.atheism?
VoiceOfReason <papa_fox@cybertown.com> wrote:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing how
much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and the website
is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
This is too funny! The thing is like a skyscraper laying on its side.
How long would it take Noah and his three sons to build this thing?
How they managed to find the time while also farming would be an
interesting calculation. Denuding forests for miles around would have
made them unpopular with the neighbors though.
How do you saw planks without metal tools?
To be fair, they did have Bronze, and numerous societies in the
Mediterranean during the era when Genesis was written had ocean-going
vessels.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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27 Aug 2006 01:01:46 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:quk3f2hfco1da6o0pv8js3i1qaafnbvtjc@4ax.com:
What's so funny about peace, love and (J. J.
Lodder) posting the following on Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:13:08 +0200 iin
alt.atheism?
VoiceOfReason <papa_fox@cybertown.com> wrote:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
Amazing how much time and effort people can put into this kind of
thing, and the website is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
This is too funny! The thing is like a skyscraper laying on its
side. How long would it take Noah and his three sons to build this
thing? How they managed to find the time while also farming would be
an interesting calculation. Denuding forests for miles around would
have made them unpopular with the neighbors though.
How do you saw planks without metal tools?
To be fair, they did have Bronze, and numerous societies in the
Mediterranean during the era when Genesis was written had ocean-going
vessels.
All handled without a stern post rudder. That limited the size of their
boat to . . . well, boats, not ships.
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Religion may in most of its forms be defined as the belief that the gods
are on the side of the Government."
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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27 Aug 2006 07:08:13 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net>
posting the following on 27 Aug 2006 18:01:46 GMT iin alt.atheism?
To be fair, they did have Bronze, and numerous societies in the
Mediterranean during the era when Genesis was written had ocean-going
vessels.
All handled without a stern post rudder. That limited the size of their
boat to . . . well, boats, not ships.
The Phonecians built vessels that evidently crossed open ocean that
were about 40 feet long. Of course, this was in the Med, not known
for storms and high waves.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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27 Aug 2006 08:50:05 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:gsc4f21ebloot5ofca4kbu1jhfcetmrnf4@4ax.com:
What's so funny about peace, love and Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net>
posting the following on 27 Aug 2006 18:01:46 GMT iin alt.atheism?
To be fair, they did have Bronze, and numerous societies in the
Mediterranean during the era when Genesis was written had
ocean-going vessels.
All handled without a stern post rudder. That limited the size of
their boat to . . . well, boats, not ships.
The Phonecians built vessels that evidently crossed open ocean that
were about 40 feet long. Of course, this was in the Med, not known
for storms and high waves.
40 feet is ok with a steering oar. 400 feet? That's another matter.
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers."
-- Denis Diderot
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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28 Aug 2006 01:00:11 AM |
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Enkidu wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:gsc4f21ebloot5ofca4kbu1jhfcetmrnf4@4ax.com:
What's so funny about peace, love and Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net>
posting the following on 27 Aug 2006 18:01:46 GMT iin alt.atheism?
To be fair, they did have Bronze, and numerous societies in the
Mediterranean during the era when Genesis was written had
ocean-going vessels.
All handled without a stern post rudder. That limited the size of
their boat to . . . well, boats, not ships.
The Phonecians built vessels that evidently crossed open ocean that
were about 40 feet long. Of course, this was in the Med, not known
for storms and high waves.
40 feet is ok with a steering oar. 400 feet? That's another matter.
<fundy>
God steered it
</fundy>
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| User: "" |
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31 Aug 2006 04:02:04 AM |
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Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing how
much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and the website
is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
Y'know, I don't believe it ever happened..but as a fellow model
builder, I've got to give it up for him. Might have been a bit better
if he'd taken a little longer on the animals (they look like
over-the-shelf toys, maybe they're store-bought?). Mighty impressive
bit of work. I'd still rather have one of Steve's lighthouses, tho.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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27 Aug 2006 10:08:03 AM |
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Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing how
much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and the website
is pretty nice looking.
Nice troll!
"Well-engineered"? Build the thing for real, fill it with animals and
eight people, and let it float unaided on the ocean for six or eight
months. Then we'll see how well-engineered it is when the animals die
and the "ark" breaks up and sinks.
Budikka
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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27 Aug 2006 10:12:19 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1156691283.393855.310910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing
how much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and
the website is pretty nice looking.
Nice troll!
"Well-engineered"? Build the thing for real, fill it with animals and
eight people, and let it float unaided on the ocean for six or eight
months. Then we'll see how well-engineered it is when the animals die
and the "ark" breaks up and sinks.
It would break apart before it was completely afloat.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
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| User: "Cubist" |
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28 Aug 2006 03:52:56 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1156691283.393855.310910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing
how much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and
the website is pretty nice looking.
Nice troll!
"Well-engineered"? Build the thing for real, fill it with animals and
eight people, and let it float unaided on the ocean for six or eight
months. Then we'll see how well-engineered it is when the animals die
and the "ark" breaks up and sinks.
It would break apart before it was completely afloat.
"And Noah built a second Ark, which sank, as well. Then Noah built a
third Ark; it broke apart and sank. So Noah built a *fourth* Ark... and
*this one FLOATED*!"
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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28 Aug 2006 07:00:10 PM |
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Cubist wrote:
Enkidu wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1156691283.393855.310910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing
how much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and
the website is pretty nice looking.
Nice troll!
"Well-engineered"? Build the thing for real, fill it with animals and
eight people, and let it float unaided on the ocean for six or eight
months. Then we'll see how well-engineered it is when the animals die
and the "ark" breaks up and sinks.
It would break apart before it was completely afloat.
"And Noah built a second Ark, which sank, as well. Then Noah built a
third Ark; it broke apart and sank. So Noah built a *fourth* Ark... and
*this one FLOATED*!"
-And that's what's you're getting, Alice-
-Herbert
-And that's what's you're gettin', Herbert, the strongest ark in these
'ere fluds!
Budikka
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| User: "bullpup" |
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28 Aug 2006 07:13:59 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Cubist wrote:
Enkidu wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1156691283.393855.310910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
Amazing
how much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing,
and
the website is pretty nice looking.
Nice troll!
"Well-engineered"? Build the thing for real, fill it with animals
and
eight people, and let it float unaided on the ocean for six or eight
months. Then we'll see how well-engineered it is when the animals
die
and the "ark" breaks up and sinks.
It would break apart before it was completely afloat.
"And Noah built a second Ark, which sank, as well. Then Noah built a
third Ark; it broke apart and sank. So Noah built a *fourth* Ark... and
*this one FLOATED*!"
On the other hand, Babylon 1 -3 were destroyed by sabatours, and Babylon 4
simply disappeared......
-And that's what's you're getting, Alice-
-Herbert
-And that's what's you're gettin', Herbert, the strongest ark in these
'ere fluds!
Budikka
Boikat
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"I reject your reality, and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage, Mythbusters-
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| User: "Puppet_Sock" |
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28 Aug 2006 04:01:18 PM |
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Cubist wrote:
[snip]
"And Noah built a second Ark, which sank, as well. Then Noah built a
third Ark; it broke apart and sank. So Noah built a *fourth* Ark... and
*this one FLOATED*!"
And NO singing!
Socks
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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30 Aug 2006 10:03:15 PM |
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Puppet_Sock wrote:
Cubist wrote:
[snip]
"And Noah built a second Ark, which sank, as well. Then Noah built a
third Ark; it broke apart and sank. So Noah built a *fourth* Ark... and
*this one FLOATED*!"
And NO singing!
They were forced to feed Robin's minstrels to the lions.
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| User: "Eric Rowley" |
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03 Sep 2006 03:09:40 AM |
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From: Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com>:
TM> Puppet_Sock wrote:
TM> > Cubist wrote:
TM> > [snip]
TM> >> "And Noah built a second Ark, which sank, as well. Then Noah
TM> >>built a third Ark; it broke apart and sank. So Noah built a
TM> >>*fourth* Ark... and *this one FLOATED*!"
TM> > And NO singing!
TM> They were forced to feed Robin's minstrels to the lions.
And there was much rejoicing.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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03 Sep 2006 09:46:38 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and (Eric Rowley)
posting the following on 03 Sep 2006 08:09:40 GMT iin alt.atheism?
From: Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com>:
TM> Puppet_Sock wrote:
TM> > Cubist wrote:
TM> > [snip]
TM> >> "And Noah built a second Ark, which sank, as well. Then Noah
TM> >>built a third Ark; it broke apart and sank. So Noah built a
TM> >>*fourth* Ark... and *this one FLOATED*!"
TM> > And NO singing!
TM> They were forced to feed Robin's minstrels to the lions.
And there was much rejoicing.
yayyyy.....
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Aaron" |
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28 Aug 2006 10:14:36 AM |
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Enkidu wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in
news:1156691283.393855.310910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Dale wrote:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing
how much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and
the website is pretty nice looking.
Nice troll!
"Well-engineered"? Build the thing for real, fill it with animals and
eight people, and let it float unaided on the ocean for six or eight
months. Then we'll see how well-engineered it is when the animals die
and the "ark" breaks up and sinks.
It would break apart before it was completely afloat.
I took "well engineered" to mean that the model was well built, which I
think it is. I'm impressed at the craftsmanship there, this individual
is no stranger to working with wood.
Unfortunately, he has used his time, money, energy, and skill to
construct a worthless Biblical model so that he can get a seat in the
front pew at church. Or something.
--
Aaron
"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill
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| User: "quibbler" |
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27 Aug 2006 09:18:24 AM |
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In article <OJ9Ig.4088$q63.3516@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net says...
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
They don't seem to focus much on the fact that it would break in two, or
at least flex enough to allow massive amounts of water to enter. They
also forgot about keels, ballast, bilge pumps, rudders, ventilation, the
need for decent lighting, proper sequestration of dangerous animals,
sanitation, feeding, etc.
Amazing how
much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing,
It amazes me that they think Noah had a regular saw mill going. How
would he get such straight cuts on all that timber? How would he obtain
the lumber, transport it and dry it? Consider the opportunity cost
alone.
and the website
is pretty nice looking.
Not really, though I'm sure that, like most religious morons, they are
well-financed through the exploitation of the gullible.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "TomS" |
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27 Aug 2006 11:30:22 AM |
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"On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:18:24 -0600, in article
<MPG.1f5b579f4edf7605989683@news.readfreenews.net>, quibbler stated..."
In article <OJ9Ig.4088$q63.3516@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net says...
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
They don't seem to focus much on the fact that it would break in two, or
at least flex enough to allow massive amounts of water to enter. They
also forgot about keels, ballast, bilge pumps, rudders, ventilation, the
need for decent lighting, proper sequestration of dangerous animals,
sanitation, feeding, etc.
[...snip...]
The two things that I find most problematic about the story are
those which are inherent in the story. More so than the
details which could be saved by invoking miracles.
The first is that the story itself is clearly a incongruous blend of two
versions. At one time, there are pairs of the animals, at another, the
clean animals are taken by sevens; and there are two different times
given for the events.
The second is that, after all of that effort of saving animals of all
kinds, Noah immediately offers up sacrifices of all of those animals.
It makes the whole thing seem so pointless. (Of course, this also
calls to mind that the carnivores would immediately wipe out
several kinds of prey species. The post-Flood ecology looks like
a mess.)
--
---Tom S. <http://talkreason.org/articles/chickegg.cfm>
"... have a clear idea of what you should expect if your hypothesis is correct,
and what you should observe if your hypothesis is wrong ... If you cannot do
this, then this is an indicator that your hypothesis may be too vague."
RV Clarke & JE Eck: Crime Analysis for Problem Solvers - step 20
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| User: "quibbler" |
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27 Aug 2006 03:56:44 PM |
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In article <166696222.0000af24.019.0001@drn.newsguy.com>,
TomS_member@newsguy.com says...
"On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:18:24 -0600, in article
<MPG.1f5b579f4edf7605989683@news.readfreenews.net>, quibbler stated..."
In article <OJ9Ig.4088$q63.3516@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net says...
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
They don't seem to focus much on the fact that it would break in two, or
at least flex enough to allow massive amounts of water to enter. They
also forgot about keels, ballast, bilge pumps, rudders, ventilation, the
need for decent lighting, proper sequestration of dangerous animals,
sanitation, feeding, etc.
[...snip...]
The two things that I find most problematic about the story are
those which are inherent in the story. More so than the
details which could be saved by invoking miracles.
The first is that the story itself is clearly a incongruous blend of two
versions. At one time, there are pairs of the animals, at another, the
clean animals are taken
Yes, despite the fact that cleanliness laws hadn't even been written yet.
OTOH, Ea initially created seven pairs of humans (not one as in the Adam
and Eve story) to populate the earth, so we can see where Hebrew writers
lifted many of their ideas.
In any event god is apparently under the delusion that many of these
animals are monogamous. Instead of bringing seven pairs he could have
brought along 13 females and one choice male, since this is often how it
happens in nature anyway. If he wanted a little diversity in the y-
chromosome then he could have brought along two males, though it's likely
that this would lead to fights.
The second is that, after all of that effort of saving animals of all
kinds, Noah immediately offers up sacrifices of all of those animals.
He supposedly took along enough clean animasl so that this would be
possible. However, it's true that the last thing god should need is for
more innocent animals to be killed. He's already slaughtered them en
masse. Of course, again, the fact that he sacrifices is just to stay
true to the utnapishtim story.
It makes the whole thing seem so pointless. (Of course, this also
calls to mind that the carnivores would immediately wipe out
several kinds of prey species.
Either that or they will end up starving themselves.
Why wouldn't god simply create all the animal again, since it would only
take him a day or two of barking orders
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Dale" |
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27 Aug 2006 04:33:29 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f5b579f4edf7605989683@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <OJ9Ig.4088$q63.3516@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net says...
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
They don't seem to focus much on the fact that it would break in two, or
at least flex enough to allow massive amounts of water to enter. They
also forgot about keels, ballast, bilge pumps, rudders, ventilation, the
need for decent lighting, proper sequestration of dangerous animals,
sanitation, feeding, etc.
So picky! I'm talking in relative terms, as in "Well engineered for a
scramble headed fundie". I mean, look at it, the sides are bowed out
slightly, it's a double skin hull, he's got those little cross braces for
the beams. And the cranes, look at the cranes!
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| User: "" |
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28 Aug 2006 01:44:50 AM |
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Dale wrote:
[snip]
So picky! I'm talking in relative terms, as in "Well engineered for a
scramble headed fundie". I mean, look at it, the sides are bowed out
slightly, it's a double skin hull, he's got those little cross braces for
the beams. And the cranes, look at the cranes!
Oh man, I didn't scroll down all the way and completely missed them!
Looks like he knows just as much about construction cranes as he does
about building boats!
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Noah's Ark Models |
27 Aug 2006 12:56:37 PM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1f5b579f4edf7605989683@news.readfreenews.net:
In article <OJ9Ig.4088$q63.3516@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net says...
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
They don't seem to focus much on the fact that it would break in two,
or at least flex enough to allow massive amounts of water to enter.
They also forgot about keels, ballast, bilge pumps, rudders,
ventilation, the need for decent lighting, proper sequestration of
dangerous animals, sanitation, feeding, etc.
Indeed, tyhey have no idea. The Royal Navy ca. 1800 were pretty damned
good at building and sailing wooden ships. Heavy weather would "work the
seams", flexing the ship so that water entered through the hull. Manual
pumps would be worked around the clock to keep the level in the bilges
down.
Stern post rudders had not been invented, so Noah would have handled the
ship with a steering oar. Such an oar boggles the mind! It would have
to have been hundreds of feet long.
What would Noah have stored his water in? Coopers hadn't been invented.
Clay pots? Not only would this have added hundreds of tons but they
would have taken years and forrests to fire.
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Only error needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself"
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| User: "Harry K" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Noah's Ark Models |
27 Aug 2006 09:36:52 AM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <OJ9Ig.4088$q63.3516@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net says...
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark.
They don't seem to focus much on the fact that it would break in two, or
at least flex enough to allow massive amounts of water to enter.
Silly, you must have missed the inclusion of the cute little wheels.
They would have supported it evenly in the water. Same reason they
didn't put on a keel, the wheels wouldn't have reached the water right.
Harry K
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Noah's Ark Models |
27 Aug 2006 12:49:25 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Dale
(dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing
how much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and
the website is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
I find it amazing that the fundies think all of life on earth could be fit
into such a floating museum. As usual, these people are completely inable
to grasp the sheer scope of the issue of life on earth.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Member: Intensional misspellingg club.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Noah's Ark Models |
27 Aug 2006 07:02:02 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Dale
(dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Incredibly detailed and well engineered model of Noah's Ark. Amazing
how much time and effort people can put into this kind of thing, and
the website is pretty nice looking.
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/modelers/Rod_Walsh.htm
I find it amazing that the fundies think all of life on earth could be fit
into such a floating museum. As usual, these people are completely inable
to grasp the sheer scope of the issue of life on earth.
Mebbe they prefer life after death like the 911 assholes
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Member: Intensional misspellingg club.
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