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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jez"
Date: 11 Jul 2004 07:24:55 AM
Object: OT: November Election To Be Postponed?
November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm
The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the coming
November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
presidential contest took place according to the schedule established by
the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further planning
for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.
In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today announced
that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the US
designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
"post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for postponing
the general election is now in full swing.
Ridge's press conference marked a crude new low in the shameless terror
demagogy of the Bush regime. Even Democratic politicians and CNN talking
heads were able to surmise that this outing was largely aimed at
deflating the five-point approval bounce which Kerry had acquired by
naming Edwards. It is clear that the Bush campaign will rely on a
relentless pounding of the electorate with terror warnings, alerts, and
alarms over the next four months -- in the first place as psychological
warfare to strengthen the regime. At a deeper level, the option of an
actual ABC/WMD terror attack at least one order of magnitude greater
than 9-11 must be reckoned with, possibly as an October Surprise, or
perhaps sooner.
Finally, the Congress is looking into the June 9 incident in which a
small plane lacking a transponder caused the panicked stampeding of the
entire US Congress, including Senators, Congressmen, and staff. This was
a transparent ploy to terrorize the Congress, where both parties have
lately been giving Bush some embarrassing moments over Abu Ghraid, the
national debt, the budget, and related issues.
Feds Eye Postponement Of November Elections
Associated Press
July 1 2004
WASHINGTON -- The government needs to establish guidelines for canceling
or rescheduling elections if terrorists strike the United States again,
says the chairman of a new federal voting commission.
Such guidelines do not currently exist, said DeForest B. Soaries, head
of the voting panel.
Soaries was appointed to the federal Election Assistance Commission last
year by President Bush.
Soaries said he wrote to National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge in April to raise the concerns.
"I am still awaiting their response," he said. "Thus far we have not
begun any meaningful discussion." Spokesmen for Rice and Ridge did not
immediately respond to requests for comment.
Soaries noted that Sept. 11, 2001, fell on Election Day in New York City
-- and he said officials there had no rules to follow in making the
decision to cancel the election and hold it later.
Event! s in Spain, where a terrorist attack shortly before the March
election possibly influenced its outcome, show the need for a process to
deal with terrorists threatening or interrupting the Nov. 2 presidential
election in America, he said.
"Look at the possibilities. If the federal government were to cancel an
election or suspend an election, it has tremendous political
implications. If the federal government chose not to suspend an election
it has political implications," said Soaries, a Republican and former
secretary of state of New Jersey.
"Who makes the call, under what circumstances is the call made, what are
the constitutional implications?" he said. "I think we have to err on
the side of transparency to protect the voting rights of the country."
Soaries said his bipartisan, four-member commission might make a
recommendation to Congress about setting up guidelies.
"I'm hopeful that there are some proposals already being floated. If
there are,! we're not aware of them. If there are not, we will probably
try to put one on the table," he said.
Soaries also said he's met with a former New York state elections
director to discuss how officials there handled the Sept. 11 attacks
from the perspective of election administration. He said the commission
is getting information from New York documenting the process used there.
"The states control elections, but on the national scale where every
state has its own election laws and its own election chief, who's in
charge?" he said.
Soaries also said he wants to know what federal officials are doing to
increase security on Election Day. He said security officials must take
care not to allow heightened security measures to intimidate minority
voters, but that local and state election officials he's talked to have
not been told what measures to expect.
"There's got to be communication," he said, "between law enforcement and
election officials in preparat! ion for November."
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.

User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 11 Jul 2004 04:39:34 PM

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm

This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.
http://tinyurl.com/3yfa2
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040711/ts_nm/politics_
election_terror_dc_3
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 11 Jul 2004 05:39:32 PM
forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040711173934.04727.00001407@mb-m10.aol.com:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm


This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.

http://tinyurl.com/3yfa2

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040711/ts_nm/politi

cs_ election_terror_dc_3

Tom Daschle has been coopted into the conspiracy!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U549236C8
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "Fear gan dia"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 11:35:38 PM
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone
in <Xns9523BDD3B90E1fstone69@207.69.154.204>:

forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040711173934.04727.00001407@mb-m10.aol.com:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm


This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.

http://tinyurl.com/3yfa2

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040711/ts_nm/politi

cs_ election_terror_dc_3


Tom Daschle has been coopted into the conspiracy!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U549236C8

No, he's just showing himself to be naive.
"Asked if the timing of the terror concerns might be aimed
at stealing political thunder from the announcement of John
Edwards as the democratic vice presidential candidate, Daschle
replied, 'The report is so sobering and so serious that I
cannot bring myself to believe anyone in this administration
would use this for political purposes.'"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
"To the extent that one believes or preaches scripture,
one is a bigot." - Kathleen Parker
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 14 Jul 2004 10:22:08 AM
"Fear gan dia" <hhndxnxrrxsd@xllrbhhbnltn.com> wrote in
news:40f3669a.001@xllrbhhbnltn.com:

Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone
in <Xns9523BDD3B90E1fstone69@207.69.154.204>:

forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040711173934.04727.00001407@mb-m10.aol.com:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm


This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.

http://tinyurl.com/3yfa2

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040711/ts_nm/politi

cs_ election_terror_dc_3


Tom Daschle has been coopted into the conspiracy!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U549236C8


No, he's just showing himself to be naive.

De nile ain't just a river.

"Asked if the timing of the terror concerns might be aimed
at stealing political thunder from the announcement of John
Edwards as the democratic vice presidential candidate, Daschle
replied, 'The report is so sobering and so serious that I
cannot bring myself to believe anyone in this administration
would use this for political purposes.'"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
"To the extent that one believes or preaches scripture,
one is a bigot." - Kathleen Parker

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 13 Jul 2004 09:23:35 PM
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 04:35:38 +0000, Fear gan dia wrote:

Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone
in <Xns9523BDD3B90E1fstone69@207.69.154.204>:

forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040711173934.04727.00001407@mb-m10.aol.com:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm


This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.

http://tinyurl.com/3yfa2

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040711/ts_nm/politi

cs_ election_terror_dc_3


Tom Daschle has been coopted into the conspiracy!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U549236C8


No, he's just showing himself to be naive.

"Asked if the timing of the terror concerns might be aimed
at stealing political thunder from the announcement of John
Edwards as the democratic vice presidential candidate, Daschle
replied, 'The report is so sobering and so serious that I
cannot bring myself to believe anyone in this administration
would use this for political purposes.'"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

How in the heck was he able to say that with a straight face?
.
User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 14 Jul 2004 04:58:27 AM
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:23:35 -0500, stoney wrote
(in article <pan.2004.07.14.02.23.33.657884@localhost.localdomain>):

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 04:35:38 +0000, Fear gan dia wrote:

Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone
in <Xns9523BDD3B90E1fstone69@207.69.154.204>:

forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040711173934.04727.00001407@mb-m10.aol.com:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm


This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.

http://tinyurl.com/3yfa2

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040711/ts_nm/politi

cs_ election_terror_dc_3


Tom Daschle has been coopted into the conspiracy!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U549236C8


No, he's just showing himself to be naive.

"Asked if the timing of the terror concerns might be aimed
at stealing political thunder from the announcement of John
Edwards as the democratic vice presidential candidate, Daschle
replied, 'The report is so sobering and so serious that I
cannot bring myself to believe anyone in this administration
would use this for political purposes.'"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


How in the heck was he able to say that with a straight face?

Near fatal amounts of tronks.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³(B)iological evolution is a team sport.³-Louis Friend
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 15 Jul 2004 10:07:40 PM
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:58:27 -0500, Harry F. Leopold wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:23:35 -0500, stoney wrote
(in article <pan.2004.07.14.02.23.33.657884@localhost.localdomain>):

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 04:35:38 +0000, Fear gan dia wrote:

Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Fred Stone
in <Xns9523BDD3B90E1fstone69@207.69.154.204>:

forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040711173934.04727.00001407@mb-m10.aol.com:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm


This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.

http://tinyurl.com/3yfa2

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040711/ts_nm/politi

cs_ election_terror_dc_3


Tom Daschle has been coopted into the conspiracy!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U549236C8


No, he's just showing himself to be naive.

"Asked if the timing of the terror concerns might be aimed
at stealing political thunder from the announcement of John
Edwards as the democratic vice presidential candidate, Daschle
replied, 'The report is so sobering and so serious that I
cannot bring myself to believe anyone in this administration
would use this for political purposes.'"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


How in the heck was he able to say that with a straight face?


Near fatal amounts of tronks.

Damn! So near and yet so far.
.





User: "Bob Dog"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 10:22:14 AM
forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in message news:<20040711173934.04727.00001407@mb-m10.aol.com>...

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm


This has been confirmed by a reputable news source.

And disreputable ones too. I heard this on AFN "news" radio.
What a surprise, huh? When the public no longer trusts you
and losing becomes an inevitability, seize power. Georgia
had a "rose revolution", now the US will have a "Shrub
revolution" because I somehow doubt enough sheep will obey
when he tries it.
Bob Dog
.


User: "Sean C"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 12:14:32 AM
In article <40f13177$0$6440$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm

The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the coming
November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
presidential contest took place according to the schedule established by
the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further planning
for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.

If they are worried those evil terrsts are going to booby-trap voting
booths all across the country, maybe we should have the election right
now, and take them by surprise, just like in Iraq. Sound like a plan,
Mr. Rove?
Sean C
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 05:31:35 PM
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
What's shameful is your open dishonesty - the effort is a review if an al queda attack,
your friends, should try something bad at election time.
The very least you could do is be honest, jez.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 07:32:42 PM
In our last thrilling episode, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> was pushed
over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:31:35 -0500 by
Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

What's shameful is your open dishonesty - the effort is a review if an al queda attack,
your friends, should try something bad at election time.

We managed to have two national elections during the Civil War (1862,
1864). Remember, this was a full scale war with armies roaming the
countrysidem and in a day when ballots had to be transported by
carriage and train.
There can be no scenario where the election can be delayed legally.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 13 Jul 2004 09:26:41 PM
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:32:42 +0000, Douglas Berry wrote:

In our last thrilling episode, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> was pushed
over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:31:35 -0500 by
Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

What's shameful is your open dishonesty - the effort is a review if an al queda attack,
your friends, should try something bad at election time.


We managed to have two national elections during the Civil War (1862,
1864). Remember, this was a full scale war with armies roaming the
countrysidem and in a day when ballots had to be transported by
carriage and train.

There can be no scenario where the election can be delayed legally.

Repugnicans say; "We don't need no steenking legality. Authority comes
from the barrel of a gun! Such supported authority is legality, one can
***** upwind by saying otherwise but such a warm feeling is so fleeting."
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 13 Jul 2004 05:32:14 PM
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:32:42 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

We managed to have two national elections during the Civil War (1862,
1864). Remember, this was a full scale war with armies roaming the
countrysidem and in a day when ballots had to be transported by
carriage and train.
There can be no scenario where the election can be delayed legally.

That is also my understanding under current law. But jez doesn't care about truth.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 14 Jul 2004 06:06:28 AM
duke wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:32:42 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:


We managed to have two national elections during the Civil War (1862,
1864). Remember, this was a full scale war with armies roaming the
countrysidem and in a day when ballots had to be transported by
carriage and train.



There can be no scenario where the election can be delayed legally.



That is also my understanding under current law. But jez doesn't care about truth.

No, it's illusions I don't like.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.



User: "Jez"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 13 Jul 2004 06:05:44 AM
duke wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

What's shameful is your open dishonesty - the effort is a review if an al queda attack,
your friends, should try something bad at election time.

The very least you could do is be honest, jez.

Notice the question mark in the header.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 11 Jul 2004 07:19:28 PM
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm

The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the coming
November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
presidential contest took place according to the schedule established by
the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further planning
for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.

In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today announced
that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the US
designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
"post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for postponing
the general election is now in full swing.

I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.
[]
.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 11 Jul 2004 11:57:07 PM

The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the coming
November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
presidential contest took place according to the schedule established by
the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further planning
for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.

In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today announced
that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the US
designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
"post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for postponing
the general election is now in full swing.


I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.

Robert Heinlein predicted back in 1950 that this would happen..that the US
would vote themselves a Christian theocratic dictatorship which would
indefinitely suspend elections until violently overthrown.
Now it's happening for real.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 02:54:50 PM
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:57:07 +0000, Lord Calvert wrote:

The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the coming
November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
presidential contest took place according to the schedule established by
the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further planning
for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.

In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today announced
that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the US
designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
"post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for postponing
the general election is now in full swing.


I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.


Robert Heinlein predicted back in 1950 that this would happen..that the US
would vote themselves a Christian theocratic dictatorship which would
indefinitely suspend elections until violently overthrown.

Now it's happening for real.

Yes, Mr. Heinlein did and he's correct.
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 07:32:57 AM
forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) wrote in
news:20040712005707.04282.00001065@mb-m26.aol.com:

The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the
coming November general election. This is totally unprecedented --
even in 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs.
McClellan presidential contest took place according to the schedule
established by the Constitution and relevant statutes. This
represents further planning for a cold coup designed to perpetuate
the power of the current gaggle of discredited neocon ideologues and
their Wall Street backers.

In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today
announced that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror
attack in the US designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One
wonders how Ridge is able to know so much about the specific intent
of the terror attack he says is coming, in particular the part about
the intent to disrupt the election. Ridge said during his press
conference that we are now in a "post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also
confirmed that planning for postponing the general election is now
in full swing.


I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.


Robert Heinlein predicted back in 1950 that this would happen..that
the US would vote themselves a Christian theocratic dictatorship which
would indefinitely suspend elections until violently overthrown.

Now it's happening for real.

Oh spare us, they're just talking about it. Lincoln talked about it, so
did Roosevelt. Their scenarios never came about.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 03:10:34 PM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

Lincoln talked about it, so did Roosevelt. Their scenarios
never came about.

Coincidentally, if we had a man like Lincoln or Roosevelt in
the Whitehouse -- instead of Bush -- none of us would be
worried right now.
.
User: "Fear gan dia"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 11:39:09 PM
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by "JTEM"
in <rZadnTpxUK5oc2_dRVn-vA@comcast.com>:


"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

Lincoln talked about it, so did Roosevelt. Their scenarios
never came about.


Coincidentally, if we had a man like Lincoln or Roosevelt in
the Whitehouse -- instead of Bush -- none of us would be
worried right now.

Those who do not learn from history...
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/07/09/fffoundation.htm
--
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one is a bigot." - Kathleen Parker
.




User: "John M Price PhD"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 11 Jul 2004 10:36:04 PM
In alt.atheism article <pan.2004.07.12.00.19.26.570324@localhost.localdomain> stoney <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:
: > November Election To
: > Be Postponed?
: > Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
: > Postponing November Election
: > By Webster Griffin Tarpley
: > 7-10-4
: > http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm
: >
: > The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the coming
: > November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
: > 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
: > presidential contest took place according to the schedule established by
: > the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further planning
: > for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
: > of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.
: >
: > In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today announced
: > that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the US
: > designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
: > able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
: > says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
: > election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
: > "post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for postponing
: > the general election is now in full swing.
: I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.
Now then, just what is a free people to do when totally (population wise)
disenfranchised?
We saw Jeb hiding the disenfranchisement of the phony felons. Thankfully
a court ordered the light of day onto that list to correct the 'errors' in
the list.
Should this come to pass, what then?
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 11 Jul 2004 11:28:21 PM
"John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
news:40f20724$0$67157$d368eab@news.calweb.com...

In alt.atheism article

<pan.2004.07.12.00.19.26.570324@localhost.localdomain> stoney
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:

: > November Election To
: > Be Postponed?
: > Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
: > Postponing November Election
: > By Webster Griffin Tarpley
: > 7-10-4
: > http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm
: >
: > The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the

coming

: > November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
: > 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
: > presidential contest took place according to the schedule established

by

: > the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further

planning

: > for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
: > of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.
: >
: > In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today

announced

: > that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the

US

: > designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
: > able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
: > says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
: > election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
: > "post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for

postponing

: > the general election is now in full swing.

: I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.

Now then, just what is a free people to do when totally (population wise)
disenfranchised?

We saw Jeb hiding the disenfranchisement of the phony felons. Thankfully
a court ordered the light of day onto that list to correct the 'errors' in
the list.

Should this come to pass, what then?

Revolution.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 03:06:20 PM
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:28:21 -0500, Denis Loubet wrote:


"John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
news:40f20724$0$67157$d368eab@news.calweb.com...

In alt.atheism article

<pan.2004.07.12.00.19.26.570324@localhost.localdomain> stoney
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:

: > November Election To
: > Be Postponed?
: > Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
: > Postponing November Election
: > By Webster Griffin Tarpley
: > 7-10-4
: > http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm
: >
: > The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the

coming

: > November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
: > 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
: > presidential contest took place according to the schedule established

by

: > the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further

planning

: > for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
: > of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.
: >
: > In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today

announced

: > that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the

US

: > designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
: > able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
: > says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
: > election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
: > "post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for

postponing

: > the general election is now in full swing.

: I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.

Now then, just what is a free people to do when totally (population wise)
disenfranchised?

We saw Jeb hiding the disenfranchisement of the phony felons. Thankfully
a court ordered the light of day onto that list to correct the 'errors' in
the list.

Should this come to pass, what then?


Revolution.

The American populace hasn't the balls to do that.
.
User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 05:00:05 PM
"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.12.20.06.18.664028@localhost.localdomain...

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:28:21 -0500, Denis Loubet wrote:


"John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
news:40f20724$0$67157$d368eab@news.calweb.com...

In alt.atheism article

<pan.2004.07.12.00.19.26.570324@localhost.localdomain> stoney
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:

: > November Election To
: > Be Postponed?
: > Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
: > Postponing November Election
: > By Webster Griffin Tarpley
: > 7-10-4
: > http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm
: >
: > The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the

coming

: > November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
: > 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
: > presidential contest took place according to the schedule

established

by

: > the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further

planning

: > for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current

gaggle

: > of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.
: >
: > In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today

announced

: > that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in

the

US

: > designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge

is

: > able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack

he

: > says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt

the

: > election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in

a

: > "post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for

postponing

: > the general election is now in full swing.

: I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.

Now then, just what is a free people to do when totally (population

wise)

disenfranchised?

We saw Jeb hiding the disenfranchisement of the phony felons.

Thankfully

a court ordered the light of day onto that list to correct the 'errors'

in

the list.

Should this come to pass, what then?


Revolution.


The American populace hasn't the balls to do that.

What? With all our movies and media and gun culture supposedly geared
towards making us and our children violent monsters, we somehow can't seem
to get it up? How can that be?
(That was sarcasm, by the way.)
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 13 Jul 2004 09:27:41 PM
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:00:05 -0500, Denis Loubet wrote:


"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.12.20.06.18.664028@localhost.localdomain...

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:28:21 -0500, Denis Loubet wrote:


"John M Price PhD" <jmprice@calweb.com> wrote in message
news:40f20724$0$67157$d368eab@news.calweb.com...

In alt.atheism article

<pan.2004.07.12.00.19.26.570324@localhost.localdomain> stoney
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:

: > November Election To
: > Be Postponed?
: > Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
: > Postponing November Election
: > By Webster Griffin Tarpley
: > 7-10-4
: > http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm
: >
: > The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the

coming

: > November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
: > 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
: > presidential contest took place according to the schedule

established

by

: > the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further

planning

: > for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current

gaggle

: > of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.
: >
: > In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today

announced

: > that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in

the

US

: > designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge

is

: > able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack

he

: > says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt

the

: > election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in

a

: > "post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for

postponing

: > the general election is now in full swing.

: I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.

Now then, just what is a free people to do when totally (population

wise)

disenfranchised?

We saw Jeb hiding the disenfranchisement of the phony felons.

Thankfully

a court ordered the light of day onto that list to correct the 'errors'

in

the list.

Should this come to pass, what then?


Revolution.


The American populace hasn't the balls to do that.


What? With all our movies and media and gun culture supposedly geared
towards making us and our children violent monsters, we somehow can't seem
to get it up? How can that be?

(That was sarcasm, by the way.)

Which? One? Both? :))))
.




User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 03:05:27 PM
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:36:04 +0000, John M Price PhD wrote:

In alt.atheism article <pan.2004.07.12.00.19.26.570324@localhost.localdomain> stoney <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:

: > November Election To
: > Be Postponed?
: > Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For
: > Postponing November Election
: > By Webster Griffin Tarpley
: > 7-10-4
: > http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm
: >
: > The Bush regime is now working out procedures for postponing the coming
: > November general election. This is totally unprecedented -- even in
: > 1864, in the midst of the Civil War, the Lincoln vs. McClellan
: > presidential contest took place according to the schedule established by
: > the Constitution and relevant statutes. This represents further planning
: > for a cold coup designed to perpetuate the power of the current gaggle
: > of discredited neocon ideologues and their Wall Street backers.
: >
: > In a shamelessly partisan move, Homeland Secretary Ridge today announced
: > that al Qaeda has advanced its preparation for a terror attack in the US
: > designed to disrupt the Democratic process. One wonders how Ridge is
: > able to know so much about the specific intent of the terror attack he
: > says is coming, in particular the part about the intent to disrupt the
: > election. Ridge said during his press conference that we are now in a
: > "post-Madrid" atmosphere. He also confirmed that planning for postponing
: > the general election is now in full swing.

: I suggested this would happen around a year or year and a half ago.

Now then, just what is a free people to do when totally (population wise)
disenfranchised?

We saw Jeb hiding the disenfranchisement of the phony felons. Thankfully
a court ordered the light of day onto that list to correct the 'errors' in
the list.

Should this come to pass, what then?

Hopefully, the rest of the Republicans in Congress would revolt and
impeach the son-of-a-***** on the spot. Of course, Shrub's ordering all
in Congress promptly executed 30 seconds later wouldn't be a surprise.
Other than that, unless the rest of the world conducts operation "American
Freedom" with a resulting regime change and the majority of Congress,
Asscrack, Ridge, and a whole bunch of others carted off to the Hague in
chains, I have no idea.
The situation is 1939 Nazi Germany all over again and much much worse.
Either they stop the Repugnicans in their tracks now or they'd best
surrender.
.



User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 06:44:24 AM
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:24:55 +0100, Jez wrote:

November Election To
Be Postponed?
Bush Regime Working Out Procedures For Postponing November Election
By Webster Griffin Tarpley
7-10-4
http://www.rense.com/general54/postponed.htm

To my reading of the attached AP article, the administration (or 'regime')
is working out what to do IF a terrorist attack occurs that is timed to
disrupt the election. That seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
We know that terrorists can attack inside the USA, and presumably will do
so again. The federal election would be a very attractive target. There
is currently no policy on how to manage the election process if such an
attack were to occur.
I'm no fan of the current administration, but I don't see this as a
sinister move. It is one more necessary step to make our political
machine more robust in the face of the reality of terrorism.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 12 Jul 2004 03:09:21 PM
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote

I'm no fan of the current administration, but I don't see
this as a sinister move. It is one more necessary step
to make our political machine more robust in the face
of the reality of terrorism.

Can you think of a bigger disruption of democracy than
canceling elections? I can't.
Yeah, okay, so they are going to take place at some unspecified
future date. Is the same true for the selection of the electoral
college? Does that constitutional time-frame remain in place,
or are they literally talking about suspending the constitution
itself?
It seems to me that they're saying if terrorist try to disrupt our
elections, the neo-cons are going to do everything within their
power to ensure the terrorist succeed.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: November Election To Be Postponed? 13 Jul 2004 09:57:50 PM
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:09:21 -0400, JTEM wrote:


"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote

I'm no fan of the current administration, but I don't see
this as a sinister move. It is one more necessary step
to make our political machine more robust in the face
of the reality of terrorism.


Can you think of a bigger disruption of democracy than
canceling elections? I can't.

Yeah, okay, so they are going to take place at some unspecified
future date. Is the same true for the selection of the electoral
college? Does that constitutional time-frame remain in place,
or are they literally talking about suspending the constitution

The Constitution's been obsolete for almost four years.

It seems to me that they're saying if terrorist try to disrupt our
elections, the neo-cons are going to do everything within their
power to ensure the terrorist succeed.

The neo-cons *are* the terrorists.
.




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