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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"
Date: 16 Nov 2005 04:56:20 PM
Object: OT: Oh I so proud...
Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C2C863B2C
or
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-11-16T153432Z_01_ROB645614_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ.xml
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 16 Nov 2005 06:53:42 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net:


Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?

And here's the "patriotic" Mark Bilbo implying that we helped build a
torture chamber, even though he has absolutely no evidence to support that
claim.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C2C863B2C

Notice how Rooters tries to link this to Abu Ghraib and the reports of CIA
prisons?
Both the US and the Iraqis have promised to investigate.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up
for something, sometime in your life." -- W. Churchill
.

User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 01:05:24 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net:


Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C2C863B2C

Our baby's growing up! *sniffle*
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Brought to you by...
The Catholic Church. No, we don't like gays.
But if you're a pedo, you're PRIEST material!!
.

User: "Katt"

Title: Re: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 12:15:04 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net...


Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.

So let's see:
Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in which
people are *arbitrarily arrested and imprisoned* - just like it *always used
to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.
And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are *secretly tortured* - just like it *always used to be*
under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.
And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which a concept like 'the rule of law' has *absolutely no meaning* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.
And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are killed by *horrible chemical weapons* - just like it
*always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.
And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which soldiers can shoot innocent people with *complete impunity* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.
And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which no-one even counts the fucking *bodies* - just like it *always used to
be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.
Hang on a minute -- I think it may almost be possible to see *some kind of
pattern* forming here...
Katt.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 04:03:55 PM
In <cYPef.70$n4.45@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, "Katt" <kahgfghttt@t.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net...


Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.


So let's see:

Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in which
people are *arbitrarily arrested and imprisoned* - just like it *always
used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are *secretly tortured* - just like it *always used to be*
under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which a concept like 'the rule of law' has *absolutely no meaning* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are killed by *horrible chemical weapons* - just like it
*always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which soldiers can shoot innocent people with *complete impunity* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which no-one even counts the fucking *bodies* - just like it *always used
to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

Hang on a minute -- I think it may almost be possible to see *some kind of
pattern* forming here...

Hey now, there are differences! Over 2,000 differences last I heard...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Oh I so proud... 18 Nov 2005 10:58:11 PM
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:03:55 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <cYPef.70$n4.45@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, "Katt" <kahgfghttt@t.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net...


Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.


So let's see:

Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in which
people are *arbitrarily arrested and imprisoned* - just like it *always
used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are *secretly tortured* - just like it *always used to be*
under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which a concept like 'the rule of law' has *absolutely no meaning* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are killed by *horrible chemical weapons* - just like it
*always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which soldiers can shoot innocent people with *complete impunity* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which no-one even counts the fucking *bodies* - just like it *always used
to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

Hang on a minute -- I think it may almost be possible to see *some kind of
pattern* forming here...


Hey now, there are differences! Over 2,000 differences last I heard...

The differences are with the WMD....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


User: "L.Roberts"

Title: Re: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 01:37:12 PM
Katt wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net...


Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.


So let's see:

Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in which
people are *arbitrarily arrested and imprisoned* - just like it *always used
to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are *secretly tortured* - just like it *always used to be*
under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which a concept like 'the rule of law' has *absolutely no meaning* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are killed by *horrible chemical weapons* - just like it
*always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which soldiers can shoot innocent people with *complete impunity* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which no-one even counts the fucking *bodies* - just like it *always used to
be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

Hang on a minute -- I think it may almost be possible to see *some kind of
pattern* forming here...

Katt.

ditto what lep said
.

User: "lep"

Title: Re: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 02:27:12 AM
Katt wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net...

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.



So let's see:

Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in which
people are *arbitrarily arrested and imprisoned* - just like it *always used
to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are *secretly tortured* - just like it *always used to be*
under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which a concept like 'the rule of law' has *absolutely no meaning* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which people are killed by *horrible chemical weapons* - just like it
*always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which soldiers can shoot innocent people with *complete impunity* - just
like it *always used to be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved
of.

And Iraq under a leader whom the US helps and approves of is a place in
which no-one even counts the fucking *bodies* - just like it *always used to
be* under a leader whom the US helped and approved of.

Hang on a minute -- I think it may almost be possible to see *some kind of
pattern* forming here...

Katt.


well put ;)
.


User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 06:42:17 AM
In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?

Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


http://makeashorterlink.com/?C2C863B2C

or

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-11-
16T153432Z_01_ROB645614_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ.xml

--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 18 Nov 2005 02:39:56 AM
In <jhachm-620483.22421716112005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?

Well, Olberman was talking earlier about Bush hunkering down in a bunker...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 19 Nov 2005 07:52:48 AM
In article <vfKdnbeni8KRouDenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <jhachm-620483.22421716112005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Well, Olberman was talking earlier about Bush hunkering down in a bunker...

With Cheney in his favorite 'undisclosed location'.
W: "Are they gone yet?"
*****: "The terrorists?"
W: "No, the Democrats. They're mean and they made me cry. <sniff>"
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 18 Nov 2005 10:59:52 PM
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:39:56 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <jhachm-620483.22421716112005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Well, Olberman was talking earlier about Bush hunkering down in a bunker...

and blowing his brains out like his hero?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 19 Nov 2005 04:35:53 PM
In <o6nsn11d9rmo4436tn8l9d4mi8q2somi99@4ax.com>, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:39:56 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <jhachm-620483.22421716112005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Well, Olberman was talking earlier about Bush hunkering down in a
bunker...


and blowing his brains out like his hero?

Brains?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 19 Nov 2005 05:42:53 PM
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:35:53 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <o6nsn11d9rmo4436tn8l9d4mi8q2somi99@4ax.com>, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:39:56 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <jhachm-620483.22421716112005@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Well, Olberman was talking earlier about Bush hunkering down in a
bunker...


and blowing his brains out like his hero?


Brains?

You're right, Mark. I mistyped.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.




User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 10:34:33 PM
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?

Nothing. The U.S. still pulls the strings.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 19 Nov 2005 07:54:30 AM
In article <9b1qn1drgifvuanlsmt70kkclk8s67bqpi@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Nothing. The U.S. still pulls the strings.

Even that hasn't changed. New puppet, same show.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 19 Nov 2005 05:42:24 PM
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:54:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <9b1qn1drgifvuanlsmt70kkclk8s67bqpi@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Nothing. The U.S. still pulls the strings.


Even that hasn't changed. New puppet, same show.

That's what I said.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 20 Nov 2005 07:02:23 AM
In article <nvoun1h0gcuc5a9nvbhf35t7rbct6sdjog@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:54:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <9b1qn1drgifvuanlsmt70kkclk8s67bqpi@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Nothing. The U.S. still pulls the strings.


Even that hasn't changed. New puppet, same show.


That's what I said.

I'm agreeing.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 20 Nov 2005 05:04:53 PM
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:02:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <nvoun1h0gcuc5a9nvbhf35t7rbct6sdjog@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:54:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <9b1qn1drgifvuanlsmt70kkclk8s67bqpi@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Nothing. The U.S. still pulls the strings.


Even that hasn't changed. New puppet, same show.


That's what I said.


I'm agreeing.

In a verbose manner....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.





User: "Dubh Ghall"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 08:48:27 PM
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.
The value of human life in Iraq, has nose dived.
Now, it is not just the government that imprisons people, indefinitely, without
trial, and /or tortures them: They have got two invading fucking armies doing
it, as well.
....But our leaders assure us that it is all legal, and it IS "progress".
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 17 Nov 2005 09:15:58 PM
In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.

Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 18 Nov 2005 10:59:12 PM
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...

Then they had some infrastructure.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 19 Nov 2005 07:59:30 AM
In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.

Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 19 Nov 2005 05:41:50 PM
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.

It went into the proper palms.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 20 Nov 2005 07:01:42 AM
In article <fuoun157u9kjj8icpkv9pu09fk73ja18pr@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.


It went into the proper palms.

And I assume that you are not talking about palm trees.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 20 Nov 2005 05:04:26 PM
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:01:42 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <fuoun157u9kjj8icpkv9pu09fk73ja18pr@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.


It went into the proper palms.


And I assume that you are not talking about palm trees.

Depends on how you define 'tree.'
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 20 Nov 2005 11:32:20 PM
In article <c4b1o1p3lkgeinuqscte3c1vdc4mjb933s@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:01:42 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <fuoun157u9kjj8icpkv9pu09fk73ja18pr@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.


It went into the proper palms.


And I assume that you are not talking about palm trees.


Depends on how you define 'tree.'

Eh?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 21 Nov 2005 10:29:17 PM
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:32:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <c4b1o1p3lkgeinuqscte3c1vdc4mjb933s@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:01:42 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <fuoun157u9kjj8icpkv9pu09fk73ja18pr@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.


It went into the proper palms.


And I assume that you are not talking about palm trees.


Depends on how you define 'tree.'


Eh?

Shades of 'that depends on how you define "is"'.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 22 Nov 2005 06:05:04 AM
In article <4hi4o1du1b7n7l77s02k69shv8km9bpnua@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:32:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <c4b1o1p3lkgeinuqscte3c1vdc4mjb933s@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:01:42 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <fuoun157u9kjj8icpkv9pu09fk73ja18pr@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped
build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was
under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the
money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.


It went into the proper palms.


And I assume that you are not talking about palm trees.


Depends on how you define 'tree.'


Eh?


Shades of 'that depends on how you define "is"'.

We never did get that definition, did we?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 22 Nov 2005 05:30:17 PM
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:05:04 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <4hi4o1du1b7n7l77s02k69shv8km9bpnua@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:32:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <c4b1o1p3lkgeinuqscte3c1vdc4mjb933s@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:01:42 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <fuoun157u9kjj8icpkv9pu09fk73ja18pr@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped
build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was
under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the
money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.


It went into the proper palms.


And I assume that you are not talking about palm trees.


Depends on how you define 'tree.'


Eh?


Shades of 'that depends on how you define "is"'.


We never did get that definition, did we?

No idea.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Oh I so proud... 23 Nov 2005 05:49:30 AM
In article <0dl6o1l0gkpdm0kok6drmq5hujl2rs360c@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:05:04 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <4hi4o1du1b7n7l77s02k69shv8km9bpnua@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:32:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <c4b1o1p3lkgeinuqscte3c1vdc4mjb933s@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:01:42 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <fuoun157u9kjj8icpkv9pu09fk73ja18pr@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:59:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <i5nsn1h3a5294a0p7hee4vendlu198abvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:15:58 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <4lqpn1h2pr5dn2asphiajfqibk877otg17@4ax.com>, Dubh Ghall
<puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:42:17 -0800, johac
<jhachm@ixpres.remove.com>
wrote:

In article <6v-dnaAcPL5U-ebenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Torture chambers in the "new" Iraq. The "new" Iraq we helped
build.
Doesn't it just make you swell with pride?


Saddam is in jail but what else has changed?


Their standard of living has fallen, enormously.


Oh I almost forgot, the infrastructure is even worse than it was
under
Saddam the *****...


Then they had some infrastructure.


Which we destroyed so Halliburton and ilk could rebuild for a nice
fat
profit at the expense of the American taxpayer. That is except the
money
to do that has a funny way of disappearing.


It went into the proper palms.


And I assume that you are not talking about palm trees.


Depends on how you define 'tree.'


Eh?


Shades of 'that depends on how you define "is"'.


We never did get that definition, did we?


No idea.

Someone should ask Monica.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.














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