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07 Sep 2005 09:10:22 PM |
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OT: Osama and Katrina |
Osama and Katrina
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/opinion/07friedman.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.9081
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
If President Bush goes back to his politics as usual, Katrina will have
destroyed a city and a presidency.
A CEO's Weaknesses
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/06/AR2005090601364.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.7040
By David Ignatius
Wednesday, September 7, 2005; Page A25
There were two levee breaks last week: The natural disaster of Katrina
ravaged New Orleans and left behind thousands of victims, but there was
also a political catastrophe that breached the Bush administration's
containment walls and exposed fundamental weaknesses in how this White
House makes decisions.
The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd
and thread
The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "news" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Osama and Katrina |
11 Sep 2005 02:46:19 PM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1126127422.621062.203610@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
A CEO's Weaknesses
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/06/AR20050
90601364.html
"What this White House needs most is the tonic of honest accountability, as
illustrated by an anecdote from presidential scholar Fred Greenstein. He
recalls a moment in the 1950s when an aide walked out of the Oval Office,
congratulating himself for telling President Dwight D. Eisenhower "what he
wanted to hear." Ike's national security adviser, Gen. Andrew Goodpaster,
overheard the aide and angrily sent him back to tell the president the
truth, no matter how unpleasant."
Yeah, that's going to happen. In other news, the Pope disbands the
Catholic Church. Televangelists give back the money they've stolen from
old people with dementia.
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"You tried to scan me, you freaked-out maniac." --TV's Frank.
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Osama and Katrina |
11 Sep 2005 05:24:02 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, "news" <news@news.astraweb.com> wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1126127422.621062.203610@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
A CEO's Weaknesses
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/06/AR20050
90601364.html
"What this White House needs most is the tonic of honest
accountability, as illustrated by an anecdote from presidential
scholar Fred Greenstein. He recalls a moment in the 1950s when an
aide walked out of the Oval Office, congratulating himself for
telling President Dwight D. Eisenhower "what he wanted to hear."
Ike's national security adviser, Gen. Andrew Goodpaster, overheard
the aide and angrily sent him back to tell the president the truth,
no matter how unpleasant."
What *this* Administration needs is to give a damn about something
other than it's ideological agenda.
They don't even care enough to _fake_ it, until the outcry starts
getting out of hand.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "news" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Osama and Katrina |
13 Sep 2005 06:55:17 AM |
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(Bobby D. Bryant) wrote in news:dg1p7i$cvf$2
@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, "news" <news@news.astraweb.com> wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1126127422.621062.203610@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
A CEO's Weaknesses
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/06/AR20050
90601364.html
"What this White House needs most is the tonic of honest
accountability, as illustrated by an anecdote from presidential
scholar Fred Greenstein. He recalls a moment in the 1950s when an
aide walked out of the Oval Office, congratulating himself for
telling President Dwight D. Eisenhower "what he wanted to hear."
Ike's national security adviser, Gen. Andrew Goodpaster, overheard
the aide and angrily sent him back to tell the president the truth,
no matter how unpleasant."
What *this* Administration needs is to give a damn about something
other than it's ideological agenda.
They don't even care enough to _fake_ it, until the outcry starts
getting out of hand.
I have a hard time believing Sequel Bush cares about anything. The only
reason, that I can buy into, with respect to his becoming president is as
an attempt to overcome a sense of inferiority relative to his father.
He's not playin' politics, he's playin' at bein' president. And doing it
badly.
--
"You tried to scan me, you freaked-out maniac." --TV's Frank.
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Osama and Katrina |
13 Sep 2005 12:51:25 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, "news" <news@news.astraweb.com> wrote:
bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu (Bobby D. Bryant) wrote in news:dg1p7i$cvf$2
@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, "news" <news@news.astraweb.com> wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1126127422.621062.203610@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
A CEO's Weaknesses
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/06/AR20050
90601364.html
"What this White House needs most is the tonic of honest
accountability, as illustrated by an anecdote from presidential
scholar Fred Greenstein. He recalls a moment in the 1950s when an
aide walked out of the Oval Office, congratulating himself for
telling President Dwight D. Eisenhower "what he wanted to hear."
Ike's national security adviser, Gen. Andrew Goodpaster, overheard
the aide and angrily sent him back to tell the president the truth,
no matter how unpleasant."
What *this* Administration needs is to give a damn about something
other than it's ideological agenda.
They don't even care enough to _fake_ it, until the outcry starts
getting out of hand.
I have a hard time believing Sequel Bush cares about anything. The
only reason, that I can buy into, with respect to his becoming
president is as an attempt to overcome a sense of inferiority
relative to his father. He's not playin' politics, he's playin' at
bein' president. And doing it badly.
He's padding his resume for next time there's an opening for the
Baseball Commissioner.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "magilla" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Osama and Katrina |
13 Sep 2005 02:37:04 PM |
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Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, "news" <news@news.astraweb.com> wrote:
bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu (Bobby D. Bryant) wrote in news:dg1p7i$cvf$2
@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, "news" <news@news.astraweb.com> wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1126127422.621062.203610@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
A CEO's Weaknesses
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/06/AR20050
90601364.html
"What this White House needs most is the tonic of honest
accountability, as illustrated by an anecdote from presidential
scholar Fred Greenstein. He recalls a moment in the 1950s when an
aide walked out of the Oval Office, congratulating himself for
telling President Dwight D. Eisenhower "what he wanted to hear."
Ike's national security adviser, Gen. Andrew Goodpaster, overheard
the aide and angrily sent him back to tell the president the truth,
no matter how unpleasant."
What *this* Administration needs is to give a damn about something
other than it's ideological agenda.
They don't even care enough to _fake_ it, until the outcry starts
getting out of hand.
I have a hard time believing Sequel Bush cares about anything. The
only reason, that I can buy into, with respect to his becoming
president is as an attempt to overcome a sense of inferiority
relative to his father. He's not playin' politics, he's playin' at
bein' president. And doing it badly.
He's padding his resume for next time there's an opening for the
Baseball Commissioner.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
I understand there's an opening at the International Arabian Horse
Association...
Chris
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Osama and Katrina |
08 Sep 2005 02:47:02 AM |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.7040
By David Ignatius
Wednesday, September 7, 2005; Page A25
There were two levee breaks last week: The natural disaster of
Katrina ravaged New Orleans and left behind thousands of victims,
but there was also a political catastrophe that breached the Bush
administration's containment walls and exposed fundamental
weaknesses in how this White House makes decisions.
I suspect that it is to a great extent a cumulative effect. The Bush
Administration has had to man the breach too many times over the past
five years, and the illusion of competent compassionate conservatism
was already wearing thin. The leading news story for a whole month
before the storm struck was the public's growing dis-illusionment with
the war in Iraq, as signified by falling approval ratings and
symbolized by Cindy Sheehan's protest outside camp Know Nuthin.
The post-911 stigma against criticism has mostly worn off, and even
before Katrina the people and policies of the Bush Administration had
become the butt end of jokes on the nighttime talk shows, and even the
press were starting to wonder about a few things, such as what the
heck is going on in Iraq and what role the Administration played in
the outing of a CIA agent.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "scooter" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Osama and Katrina |
13 Sep 2005 02:21:04 PM |
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Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.7040
By David Ignatius
Wednesday, September 7, 2005; Page A25
There were two levee breaks last week: The natural disaster of
Katrina ravaged New Orleans and left behind thousands of victims,
but there was also a political catastrophe that breached the Bush
administration's containment walls and exposed fundamental
weaknesses in how this White House makes decisions.
I suspect that it is to a great extent a cumulative effect. The Bush
Administration has had to man the breach too many times over the past
five years, and the illusion of competent compassionate conservatism
was already wearing thin. The leading news story for a whole month
before the storm struck was the public's growing dis-illusionment with
the war in Iraq, as signified by falling approval ratings and
symbolized by Cindy Sheehan's protest outside camp Know Nuthin.
The post-911 stigma against criticism has mostly worn off, and even
before Katrina the people and policies of the Bush Administration had
become the butt end of jokes on the nighttime talk shows, and even the
press were starting to wonder about a few things, such as what the
heck is going on in Iraq and what role the Administration played in
the outing of a CIA agent.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
A political party that invents a mantra called "compassionate
conservatism" is sure to be just the opposite.
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