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Religions > Atheism |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2005 06:51:55 AM |
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OT: Pay attention! |
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want *everybody
here to look up the population of the metroplex (include suburbs) they
live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state, counties,
and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple of days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have to move
to match what ours did...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
06 Sep 2005 09:28:55 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex (include
suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple of
days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have to
move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
06 Sep 2005 01:02:39 PM |
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In episode <1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
***** you up your senile old ***** you fucking evil pile of *****.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "duke" |
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06 Sep 2005 05:42:40 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:02:39 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>
wrote:
In episode <1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
***** you up your senile old ***** you fucking evil pile of *****.
slow down, biblo, drink a beer, enjoy the ac, relax.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
06 Sep 2005 01:52:15 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:02:39 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> in <B6-dnZ2Md6MjRIDeRVn-tg@megapath.net>
wrote:
In episode <1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
***** you up your senile old ***** you fucking evil pile of *****.
Mark, is there anything I can do to help you? We have given money and
stuff and I am scheduled to give blood the first available day, but we
can always do more. Who is, by your view, doing a particularly good
job in helping? In fact, I can probably take some time off if a
healthy if not entirely youthful man would be of assistance.
I can tell you seriously and reasonably stressed right now. I have not
been in a hurricane, but I have been through some disasters
(Northridge earthquake, WTC collapse three blocks away) and know a bit
of what you are going through. Email me, I will give you my phone
number if that would help. I don't much care right now about how
stupid Fred is, I care more about your condition. If we email or talk
we can possibly do more.
Good luck and health to you and yours. And please understand that the
sig is not a comment on your tragedy.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
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http://www.savedarfur.org/
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2005 05:35:30 PM |
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In episode <t3prh1hmtatf99rafptf8bser3p6729si9@4ax.com>, Matt Silberstein
burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:02:39 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> in <B6-dnZ2Md6MjRIDeRVn-tg@megapath.net>
wrote:
In episode <1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
***** you up your senile old ***** you fucking evil pile of *****.
Mark, is there anything I can do to help you?
Personally? We're okay. Better than a lot. Our parish was very, very
lucky. Our stores are reopening (though the shelves are pretty thin),
powers on in much of the parish, the boil order was lifted. I think we're
still under curfew and guys in fatigues guard the doors of the grocery
store but we're better than many. I also have relatives that can come load
us up and get us out if things get bad. I think we'll be okay.
We have given money and
stuff and I am scheduled to give blood the first available day, but we can
always do more. Who is, by your view, doing a particularly good job in
helping? In fact, I can probably take some time off if a healthy if not
entirely youthful man would be of assistance.
Damned if I know who's doing what. The small, outlying parishes are on
their own. Which isn't so much a problem for *us but there are some that I
hear are not doing well (then again, half of the parish next door is
living with us).
There's talk that aid appears in front of cameras and not many other
places.
The biggest thing this entire area needs desperately are doctors and
nurses. Our hospital here is on the verge of collapse trying to take care
of people. The nurses and doctors have been working non-stop 12 hour
shifts. State and parish resources are being stretched like you would not
believe from here to Lake Charles and Shreveport. I understand the
population of Baton Rogue doubled. Other areas have taken on about as many
refugees as they have residents (I'm not sure how many we have but this
town is pretty packed).
I don't know. Maybe talk to the Red Cross to see if there's anything to
do. Hell, you may have refugees in your area the way they're being shipped
around the country. I know the refugees need a *lot more help than we do
here.
Do *not attempt to just come down to the area to volunteer. Not only will
you be turned back, you probably won't find gas to get back *with.
I can tell you seriously and reasonably stressed right now.
I AM NOT STRESSED!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?!?!?!!?
(Okay, I couldn't resist <g>)
I have not
been in a hurricane, but I have been through some disasters (Northridge
earthquake, WTC collapse three blocks away) and know a bit of what you are
going through. Email me, I will give you my phone number if that would
help. I don't much care right now about how stupid Fred is, I care more
about your condition. If we email or talk we can possibly do more.
I'll be all right. But this blaming our local officials and lying about
what happened is sending my blood pressure through the roof. The Bush butt
boys realize how bad this one is and they are desperate to spin the hell
out of it.
Best thing anybody can do is pressure their representatives to seriously
dig into this one. Find out why in *hell* Brown made being crowned King of
New Orleans a pre-condition for disaster aid.
Good luck and health to you and yours. And please understand that the sig
is not a comment on your tragedy.
Didn't take it that way at all. And thanks for the kind words.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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06 Sep 2005 09:18:20 PM |
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hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find any info
on it.
--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2005 11:40:09 PM |
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In episode <o7sTe.9717$dm.0@lakeread03>, I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!
burst into the room and exclaimed:
hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find any
info on it.
Oh man. I hate to tell you but they took it bad. Slidell is pretty much
part of Ponchartrain now. It's not good. Sorry.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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07 Sep 2005 08:51:53 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:77KdneBED5K68oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In episode <o7sTe.9717$dm.0@lakeread03>, I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!
burst into the room and exclaimed:
hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find any
info on it.
Oh man. I hate to tell you but they took it bad. Slidell is pretty much
part of Ponchartrain now. It's not good. Sorry.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
ok-thanks.
--
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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07 Sep 2005 10:12:02 AM |
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:53 -0400, in alt.atheism , "I KILLED YOUR
GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> in
<yhCTe.9743$dm.4430@lakeread03> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:77KdneBED5K68oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In episode <o7sTe.9717$dm.0@lakeread03>, I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!
burst into the room and exclaimed:
hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find any
info on it.
Oh man. I hate to tell you but they took it bad. Slidell is pretty much
part of Ponchartrain now. It's not good. Sorry.
ok-thanks.
I am sorry for your loss. As I said to Mark, and I am repeating for
him and others, it takes time for this to hit you. I was really
feeling the WTC attack/loss this summer in ways I had not felt before.
And though I had only visited NO and southern LA a few times it felt
so right. Not late night on Bourbon, not really my scene (I am more a
quite friendly all night drinker rather than a loud public partier),
but lunch at a counter or a quite coffee at 6AM before it got to
terribly hot. Well, that and an intense obsession with good food.
Speaking of Slidell I wonder when I will be able to listen to Lucinda
again. Such a love of place is a remarkable and wonderful thing. I
feel it for my city here and, I have learned now that I have moved
back to NYC, I feel it for the high desert outside Los Angeles. That
feeling that you are home and right.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
Save Darfur.org :: Violence and Suffering in Sudan's Darfur Region
http://www.savedarfur.org/
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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07 Sep 2005 03:47:47 PM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:1h0uh15hnfe72ucnp6f2orkj80vkjtq3ks@4ax.com...
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:53 -0400, in alt.atheism , "I KILLED YOUR
GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> in
<yhCTe.9743$dm.4430@lakeread03> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:77KdneBED5K68oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In episode <o7sTe.9717$dm.0@lakeread03>, I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!
burst into the room and exclaimed:
hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find
any
info on it.
Oh man. I hate to tell you but they took it bad. Slidell is pretty much
part of Ponchartrain now. It's not good. Sorry.
ok-thanks.
I am sorry for your loss. As I said to Mark, and I am repeating for
him and others, it takes time for this to hit you. I was really
feeling the WTC attack/loss this summer in ways I had not felt before.
And though I had only visited NO and southern LA a few times it felt
so right. Not late night on Bourbon, not really my scene (I am more a
quite friendly all night drinker rather than a loud public partier),
but lunch at a counter or a quite coffee at 6AM before it got to
terribly hot. Well, that and an intense obsession with good food.
Speaking of Slidell I wonder when I will be able to listen to Lucinda
again. Such a love of place is a remarkable and wonderful thing. I
feel it for my city here and, I have learned now that I have moved
back to NYC, I feel it for the high desert outside Los Angeles. That
feeling that you are home and right.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
Save Darfur.org :: Violence and Suffering in Sudan's Darfur Region
http://www.savedarfur.org/
--
well,thanks for all that.
i did like partying late at night-early morning on bourbon St.i met rod
stewart there walking down the street singing.
any ways,thanks for the replies.
I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented
myself from Christian assemblies.²
-- Benjamin Franklin
AA #2241.
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Sep 2005 11:09:22 AM |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:12:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:53 -0400, in alt.atheism , "I KILLED YOUR
GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> in
<yhCTe.9743$dm.4430@lakeread03> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:77KdneBED5K68oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In episode <o7sTe.9717$dm.0@lakeread03>, I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!
burst into the room and exclaimed:
hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find any
info on it.
Oh man. I hate to tell you but they took it bad. Slidell is pretty much
part of Ponchartrain now. It's not good. Sorry.
ok-thanks.
I am sorry for your loss. As I said to Mark, and I am repeating for
him and others, it takes time for this to hit you. I was really
feeling the WTC attack/loss this summer in ways I had not felt before.
And though I had only visited NO and southern LA a few times it felt
so right. Not late night on Bourbon, not really my scene (I am more a
quite friendly all night drinker rather than a loud public partier),
but lunch at a counter or a quite coffee at 6AM before it got to
terribly hot. Well, that and an intense obsession with good food.
Speaking of Slidell I wonder when I will be able to listen to Lucinda
again. Such a love of place is a remarkable and wonderful thing. I
feel it for my city here and, I have learned now that I have moved
back to NYC, I feel it for the high desert outside Los Angeles. That
feeling that you are home and right.
Matt, you might find this of interest;
http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=201180>1=6952
Musician Clarence 'Gatemouth' Brown Dies
Sep 11, 10:51 AM EST
The Associated Press
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a
50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died
Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape
Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.
/excerpt
I lived in the High Desert for 3-1/2 years.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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12 Sep 2005 11:43:22 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:09:22 -0700, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <ou9bi1h8qnat50qh48mnuat4flekt6143v@4ax.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:12:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:53 -0400, in alt.atheism , "I KILLED YOUR
GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> in
<yhCTe.9743$dm.4430@lakeread03> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:77KdneBED5K68oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In episode <o7sTe.9717$dm.0@lakeread03>, I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!
burst into the room and exclaimed:
hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find any
info on it.
Oh man. I hate to tell you but they took it bad. Slidell is pretty much
part of Ponchartrain now. It's not good. Sorry.
ok-thanks.
I am sorry for your loss. As I said to Mark, and I am repeating for
him and others, it takes time for this to hit you. I was really
feeling the WTC attack/loss this summer in ways I had not felt before.
And though I had only visited NO and southern LA a few times it felt
so right. Not late night on Bourbon, not really my scene (I am more a
quite friendly all night drinker rather than a loud public partier),
but lunch at a counter or a quite coffee at 6AM before it got to
terribly hot. Well, that and an intense obsession with good food.
Speaking of Slidell I wonder when I will be able to listen to Lucinda
again. Such a love of place is a remarkable and wonderful thing. I
feel it for my city here and, I have learned now that I have moved
back to NYC, I feel it for the high desert outside Los Angeles. That
feeling that you are home and right.
Matt, you might find this of interest;
http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=201180>1=6952
Musician Clarence 'Gatemouth' Brown Dies
Sep 11, 10:51 AM EST
The Associated Press
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a
50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died
Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape
Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.
/excerpt
Sigh. But 81 is pretty good for a blues singer. Thanks for letting me
know. I don't have enough of his stuff, but it sure is good. For some
reason, though, I am partial to the female voice.
I lived in the High Desert for 3-1/2 years.
I did not realize how beautiful it is until I left.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
Save Darfur.org :: Violence and Suffering in Sudan's Darfur Region
http://www.savedarfur.org/
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Sep 2005 10:49:58 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:43:22 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:09:22 -0700, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <ou9bi1h8qnat50qh48mnuat4flekt6143v@4ax.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:12:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:51:53 -0400, in alt.atheism , "I KILLED YOUR
GOD-IT WAS EASY!" <NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> in
<yhCTe.9743$dm.4430@lakeread03> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:77KdneBED5K68oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net...
In episode <o7sTe.9717$dm.0@lakeread03>, I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!
burst into the room and exclaimed:
hey mark-i used to live in slidell-is it still there?i can not find any
info on it.
Oh man. I hate to tell you but they took it bad. Slidell is pretty much
part of Ponchartrain now. It's not good. Sorry.
ok-thanks.
I am sorry for your loss. As I said to Mark, and I am repeating for
him and others, it takes time for this to hit you. I was really
feeling the WTC attack/loss this summer in ways I had not felt before.
And though I had only visited NO and southern LA a few times it felt
so right. Not late night on Bourbon, not really my scene (I am more a
quite friendly all night drinker rather than a loud public partier),
but lunch at a counter or a quite coffee at 6AM before it got to
terribly hot. Well, that and an intense obsession with good food.
Speaking of Slidell I wonder when I will be able to listen to Lucinda
again. Such a love of place is a remarkable and wonderful thing. I
feel it for my city here and, I have learned now that I have moved
back to NYC, I feel it for the high desert outside Los Angeles. That
feeling that you are home and right.
Matt, you might find this of interest;
http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=201180>1=6952
Musician Clarence 'Gatemouth' Brown Dies
Sep 11, 10:51 AM EST
The Associated Press
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a
50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died
Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape
Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.
/excerpt
Sigh. But 81 is pretty good for a blues singer. Thanks for letting me
know. I don't have enough of his stuff, but it sure is good. For some
reason, though, I am partial to the female voice.
81's a pretty good age for anyone, imo. I had never heard of the gent
before (or don't recall) and mentioned it since you mentioned Slidell
and I figured Lucinda had to deal with blues.
I lived in the High Desert for 3-1/2 years.
I did not realize how beautiful it is until I left.
It's a different type of beauty.
I still live in an area classified as 'High Desert,' but it isn't in
Calif. I've been here since the end of '85.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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14 Sep 2005 04:16:54 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:49:58 -0700, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <j97fi1hgbt0poppv3qma96k1t94bjtp4gp@4ax.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:43:22 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:09:22 -0700, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <ou9bi1h8qnat50qh48mnuat4flekt6143v@4ax.com>
[snip]
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a
50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died
Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape
Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.
/excerpt
Sigh. But 81 is pretty good for a blues singer. Thanks for letting me
know. I don't have enough of his stuff, but it sure is good. For some
reason, though, I am partial to the female voice.
81's a pretty good age for anyone, imo. I had never heard of the gent
before (or don't recall) and mentioned it since you mentioned Slidell
and I figured Lucinda had to deal with blues.
Lucinda Williams, get her albums, particularly everything except the
last two.
Song: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Album: Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Verse 2:
I had a lover
I thought he was mine
Thought I'd always be his valentine
Leaning against the railing of a Lake Charles bridge
Overlooking the river leaning over the edge
He asked me baby would you jump into the water with me
I told him no way baby that's your own death you see
Too cool to be forgotten
Hey hey too cool to be forgotten
June bug vs hurricane
June bug vs hurricane
But listen to her, she will blow you away (sorry for the metaphor).
I lived in the High Desert for 3-1/2 years.
I did not realize how beautiful it is until I left.
It's a different type of beauty.
Yep. More peace, more calm.
I still live in an area classified as 'High Desert,' but it isn't in
Calif. I've been here since the end of '85.
Whereabouts? I am in the low desert these days, 3rd floor. In NYC that
is low.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
Save Darfur.org :: Violence and Suffering in Sudan's Darfur Region
http://www.savedarfur.org/
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16 Sep 2005 01:09:10 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:16:54 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:49:58 -0700, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <j97fi1hgbt0poppv3qma96k1t94bjtp4gp@4ax.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:43:22 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:09:22 -0700, in alt.atheism , stoney
<stoney@the.net> in <ou9bi1h8qnat50qh48mnuat4flekt6143v@4ax.com>
[snip]
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, the singer and guitarist who built a
50-year career playing blues, country, jazz and Cajun music, died
Saturday in his hometown of Orange, Texas, where he had gone to escape
Hurricane Katrina. He was 81.
/excerpt
Sigh. But 81 is pretty good for a blues singer. Thanks for letting me
know. I don't have enough of his stuff, but it sure is good. For some
reason, though, I am partial to the female voice.
81's a pretty good age for anyone, imo. I had never heard of the gent
before (or don't recall) and mentioned it since you mentioned Slidell
and I figured Lucinda had to deal with blues.
Lucinda Williams, get her albums, particularly everything except the
last two.
Song: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Album: Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Verse 2:
I had a lover
I thought he was mine
Thought I'd always be his valentine
Leaning against the railing of a Lake Charles bridge
Overlooking the river leaning over the edge
He asked me baby would you jump into the water with me
I told him no way baby that's your own death you see
Too cool to be forgotten
Hey hey too cool to be forgotten
June bug vs hurricane
June bug vs hurricane
But listen to her, she will blow you away (sorry for the metaphor).
LOL. No worries.
I lived in the High Desert for 3-1/2 years.
I did not realize how beautiful it is until I left.
It's a different type of beauty.
Yep. More peace, more calm.
I still live in an area classified as 'High Desert,' but it isn't in
Calif. I've been here since the end of '85.
Whereabouts?
Oregon.
I am in the low desert these days, 3rd floor. In NYC that
is low.
Yes, that would be.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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06 Sep 2005 05:46:11 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:52:15 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:02:39 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> in <B6-dnZ2Md6MjRIDeRVn-tg@megapath.net>
wrote:
In episode <1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
***** you up your senile old ***** you fucking evil pile of *****.
Mark, is there anything I can do to help you? We have given money and
stuff and I am scheduled to give blood the first available day, but we
can always do more. Who is, by your view, doing a particularly good
job in helping? In fact, I can probably take some time off if a
healthy if not entirely youthful man would be of assistance.
I can tell you seriously and reasonably stressed right now. I have not
been in a hurricane, but I have been through some disasters
(Northridge earthquake, WTC collapse three blocks away) and know a bit
of what you are going through. Email me, I will give you my phone
number if that would help. I don't much care right now about how
stupid Fred is, I care more about your condition. If we email or talk
we can possibly do more.
Good luck and health to you and yours. And please understand that the
sig is not a comment on your tragedy.
The problem with Mark is that he's trying his best to be a victim. Everybody's
doing a great job - the feds, the state, the city, Red Cross, etc etc. But
we're caught up in a blame game - it sells tv commercials.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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06 Sep 2005 11:05:55 AM |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex (include
suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple of
days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have to
move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
Save Darfur.org :: Violence and Suffering in Sudan's Darfur Region
http://www.savedarfur.org/
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2005 12:28:18 PM |
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In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt Silberstein
burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex (include
suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state, counties,
and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple of days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have to
move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and managed
by our local officials and patrolled by our law enforcement agencies. And
it worked for one million people.
Fred can take his adolescent bloggers and shove each and every one up his
wrinkled old *****.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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06 Sep 2005 02:31:17 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:8pCdnYm4h40vTIDeRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex (include
suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple of
days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast
sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have
to move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and
managed by our local officials and patrolled by our law enforcement
agencies. And it worked for one million people.
You mean this plan?
In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars
makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer, New Orleans Times-
Picayne, July 24, 2005:
City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the
poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of
a major hurricane, you're on your own. In scripted appearances being
recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive
Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home
the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's
way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation.
In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they
urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to
leave the city in the event of an evacuation. "You're responsible for your
safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you," Wilkins
said in an interview. "If you have some room to get that person out of
town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We
can help you. "But we don't have the transportation."
Officials are recording the evacuation message even as recent research by
the University of New Orleans indicated that as many as 60 percent of the
residents of most southeast Louisiana parishes would remain in their homes
in the event of a Category 3 hurricane. Their message will be distributed
on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town
message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to
scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City
and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall
Truehill, head of Total Community Action. "The primary message is that
eachperson is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family
and friends," Truehill said.
In addition to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations
to make evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the
National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann
Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans,
said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials'
scripts and doing the recording. The speakers explain what to bring and
what to leave behind. They advise viewers to bring personal medicines and
critical legal documents, and tell them how to create a family
communication plan. Even a representative of the Society for the Prevention
of Cruelty to Animals weighs in with a message on how to make the best
arrangements for pets left behind.
Production likely will continue through August. Officials want to get the
DVDs into the hands of pastors and community leaders as hurricane season
reaches its height in September, Katz said.
Believing that the low-lying city is too dangerous a place to shelter
refugees, the Red Cross positioned its storm shelters on higher ground
north of Interstate 10 several years ago. It dropped plans to care for
storm victims in schools or other institutions in town. Truehill, Wilkins
and others said emergency preparedness officials still plan to deploy some
Regional Transit Authority buses, school buses and perhaps even Amtrak
trains to move some people before a storm.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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06 Sep 2005 06:31:16 PM |
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In episode <1126035077.636d596470958329ee399d79230a4eca@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:8pCdnYm4h40vTIDeRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex (include
suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple of
days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have to
move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and
managed by our local officials and patrolled by our law enforcement
agencies. And it worked for one million people.
You mean this plan?
In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars
makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer, New Orleans
Times- Picayne, July 24, 2005:
City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the
poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of
a major hurricane, you're on your own.
So you want what? One of the poorest states in the union to crap out cars
for 100,000 people? You think we're rich or something? Our entire state
budget is about the size of some city budgets.
One million people were moved out of the way. One million. 80% of
Jefferson and Orleans parish. Almost one quarter of the population of our
state. I want to see the rest of you pull that off. Go ahead. Begin... now.
You don't give a flying ***** about our people. You're happy with people
dying long as you can suck George Bush's ***** one more time.
And don't try to tell me who did what in the evacuation. Your exact
location during the evacuation was: not fucking here. Mine was: in the
middle of it.
Don't try to lie to me about my own backyard. It just makes you look
stupid.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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06 Sep 2005 07:52:32 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:MqCdnVxtSadeu4PeRVn-rg@megapath.net:
In episode <1126035077.636d596470958329ee399d79230a4eca@teranews>,
Fred Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:8pCdnYm4h40vTIDeRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex
(include suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to
them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple
of days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast
sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would
have to move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and
managed by our local officials and patrolled by our law enforcement
agencies. And it worked for one million people.
You mean this plan?
In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without
cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer, New
Orleans Times- Picayne, July 24, 2005:
City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the
poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the
event of a major hurricane, you're on your own.
So you want what? One of the poorest states in the union to crap out
cars for 100,000 people? You think we're rich or something? Our entire
state budget is about the size of some city budgets.
Buses, Mark. Buses and drivers. A simple matter of planning ahead.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, I can't blame the mayor for not planning ahead.
One million people were moved out of the way. One million. 80% of
Jefferson and Orleans parish. Almost one quarter of the population of
our state. I want to see the rest of you pull that off. Go ahead.
Begin... now.
You don't give a flying ***** about our people. You're happy with
people dying long as you can suck George Bush's ***** one more time.
You don't know how much I care, Mark. But I don't care to hear all these
excuses about the people who were responsible for disaster preparation.
And don't try to tell me who did what in the evacuation. Your exact
location during the evacuation was: not fucking here. Mine was: in the
middle of it.
Which doesn't give you any perspective on it.
Don't try to lie to me about my own backyard. It just makes you look
stupid.
Now you sound like a fundie. "Were you there?"
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2005 10:12:37 PM |
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In episode <1126054352.e72e3ea01f0db14b65b998441255956d@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:MqCdnVxtSadeu4PeRVn-rg@megapath.net:
In episode <1126035077.636d596470958329ee399d79230a4eca@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:8pCdnYm4h40vTIDeRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex (include
suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple of
days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast
sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have
to move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and
managed by our local officials and patrolled by our law enforcement
agencies. And it worked for one million people.
You mean this plan?
In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars
makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer, New Orleans
Times- Picayne, July 24, 2005:
City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the
poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event
of a major hurricane, you're on your own.
So you want what? One of the poorest states in the union to crap out
cars for 100,000 people? You think we're rich or something? Our entire
state budget is about the size of some city budgets.
Buses, Mark. Buses and drivers. A simple matter of planning ahead. Oh, I'm
sorry, I forgot, I can't blame the mayor for not planning ahead.
Nagin knew better than to put people on the roads when Katrina was making
landfall. You would have killed them. Is that what you want? Those
people dead one way or the other?
One million people were moved out of the way. One million. 80% of
Jefferson and Orleans parish. Almost one quarter of the population of
our state. I want to see the rest of you pull that off. Go ahead.
Begin... now.
You don't give a flying ***** about our people. You're happy with people
dying long as you can suck George Bush's ***** one more time.
You don't know how much I care, Mark. But I don't care to hear all these
excuses about the people who were responsible for disaster preparation.
Then stop making the excuses for them.
And don't try to tell me who did what in the evacuation. Your exact
location during the evacuation was: not fucking here. Mine was: in the
middle of it.
Which doesn't give you any perspective on it.
Oh it damn well does. You're just pissed because your lies can't get by
those of us who were here.
Don't try to lie to me about my own backyard. It just makes you look
stupid.
Now you sound like a fundie. "Were you there?"
You amuse me with your floundering.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
06 Sep 2005 11:23:27 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:52:32 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:MqCdnVxtSadeu4PeRVn-rg@megapath.net:
In episode <1126035077.636d596470958329ee399d79230a4eca@teranews>,
Fred Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:8pCdnYm4h40vTIDeRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex
(include suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to
them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple
of days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast
sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would
have to move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and
managed by our local officials and patrolled by our law enforcement
agencies. And it worked for one million people.
You mean this plan?
In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without
cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer, New
Orleans Times- Picayne, July 24, 2005:
City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the
poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the
event of a major hurricane, you're on your own.
So you want what? One of the poorest states in the union to crap out
cars for 100,000 people? You think we're rich or something? Our entire
state budget is about the size of some city budgets.
Buses, Mark. Buses and drivers. A simple matter of planning ahead.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, I can't blame the mayor for not planning ahead.
One million people were moved out of the way. One million. 80% of
Jefferson and Orleans parish. Almost one quarter of the population of
our state. I want to see the rest of you pull that off. Go ahead.
Begin... now.
You don't give a flying ***** about our people. You're happy with
people dying long as you can suck George Bush's ***** one more time.
You don't know how much I care, Mark. But I don't care to hear all these
excuses about the people who were responsible for disaster preparation.
And don't try to tell me who did what in the evacuation. Your exact
location during the evacuation was: not fucking here. Mine was: in the
middle of it.
Which doesn't give you any perspective on it.
Don't try to lie to me about my own backyard. It just makes you look
stupid.
Now you sound like a fundie. "Were you there?"
Truth be known, Fred, the _fundie_ angle is to always state what
conditions were like without any actual observation and pretending to
know those conditions better than anyone who might actually have
_been_ there. It's how fundies navigate the world without letting
their little house of cards fall down. Do you *honestly* think the
federal government bears _NO_ responsibility for the rising toll in
dollars and lives of this fiasco? I see shortcomings all around, at
the local level and the federal level. You honestly think the federal
government is 100% blameless for the horrific way this tragedy has
unfolded? It's not too hard to gather the impression from everything
you've had to say on the matter that you somehow think the people of
NOLA _deserved_ this. Even if you were right about it being 100% the
fault of local officials, the people themselves wouldn't deserve what
is happening to them. If you don't feel that way, I would be _ever_
so grateful if you'd make that clear. And if you already have, I
missed it, and thank you kindly for doing so again.
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
Those first to step up and say,
"Now is not the time for placing blame"
...
...are quite often to blame....
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
06 Sep 2005 10:15:59 PM |
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In episode <qdqsh11o4s211uq858gdiotlb6sp9pj15v@4ax.com>, Uncle Buck burst
into the room and exclaimed:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:52:32 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:MqCdnVxtSadeu4PeRVn-rg@megapath.net:
In episode <1126035077.636d596470958329ee399d79230a4eca@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:8pCdnYm4h40vTIDeRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex
(include suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a couple
of days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast
sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would have
to move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and
managed by our local officials and patrolled by our law enforcement
agencies. And it worked for one million people.
You mean this plan?
In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without cars
makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer, New Orleans
Times- Picayne, July 24, 2005:
City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the
poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the
event of a major hurricane, you're on your own.
So you want what? One of the poorest states in the union to crap out
cars for 100,000 people? You think we're rich or something? Our entire
state budget is about the size of some city budgets.
Buses, Mark. Buses and drivers. A simple matter of planning ahead. Oh,
I'm sorry, I forgot, I can't blame the mayor for not planning ahead.
One million people were moved out of the way. One million. 80% of
Jefferson and Orleans parish. Almost one quarter of the population of
our state. I want to see the rest of you pull that off. Go ahead.
Begin... now.
You don't give a flying ***** about our people. You're happy with people
dying long as you can suck George Bush's ***** one more time.
You don't know how much I care, Mark. But I don't care to hear all these
excuses about the people who were responsible for disaster preparation.
And don't try to tell me who did what in the evacuation. Your exact
location during the evacuation was: not fucking here. Mine was: in the
middle of it.
Which doesn't give you any perspective on it.
Don't try to lie to me about my own backyard. It just makes you look
stupid.
Now you sound like a fundie. "Were you there?"
Truth be known, Fred, the _fundie_ angle is to always state what
conditions were like without any actual observation and pretending to know
those conditions better than anyone who might actually have _been_ there.
He *is a goddamned fundie. He's "read" things on the fucking web and knows
"better" than those of us who lived through this mess.
It's how fundies navigate the world without letting their little house of
cards fall down. Do you *honestly* think the federal government bears
_NO_ responsibility for the rising toll in dollars and lives of this
fiasco? I see shortcomings all around, at the local level and the federal
level. You honestly think the federal government is 100% blameless for
the horrific way this tragedy has unfolded?
That's not even what's really going on. Nagin embarrassed the
administration in front of planet Earth. The whole goddamned planet heard
and read about that speech. The world looked at Bush and asked "you're
going to let your own people die?"
Then Bush got moving. But only then.
It's not too hard to gather
the impression from everything you've had to say on the matter that you
somehow think the people of NOLA _deserved_ this. Even if you were right
about it being 100% the fault of local officials, the people themselves
wouldn't deserve what is happening to them. If you don't feel that way, I
would be _ever_ so grateful if you'd make that clear. And if you already
have, I missed it, and thank you kindly for doing so again.
Defending his god Bush is more important than any human life.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
06 Sep 2005 09:57:07 PM |
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:qdqsh11o4s211uq858gdiotlb6sp9pj15v@4ax.com:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:52:32 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:MqCdnVxtSadeu4PeRVn-rg@megapath.net:
In episode <1126035077.636d596470958329ee399d79230a4eca@teranews>,
Fred Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:8pCdnYm4h40vTIDeRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In episode <8ifrh1tdokhig765gk9q4vp15skn2324k2@4ax.com>, Matt
Silberstein burst into the room and exclaimed:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:28:55 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<1126016937.d4ceff8e5a3bdbb6c4cb5bf29ff61c7e@teranews> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:u9CdnY4Ta-tGH4DeRVn-gA@megapath.net:
Before anybody says anything more about our evacuation, I want
*everybody here to look up the population of the metroplex
(include suburbs) they live in or the one that is nearest to
them.
Figure 80% of that population and ask yourself if your state,
counties, and mayor(s) could move that many people with a
couple
of days warning.
Here, I'll get you started...
Houston and suburbs (frequently hit by hurricanes).
Population: 2.9 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.3 million.
New York and suburbs (hurricanes do strike the East Coast
sometimes).
Population: 16 million in 1990 - evacuation: 12.8 million.
Boston and suburbs.
Population: 2.8 million in 1990 - evacuation: 2.2 million.
Come on! It's fun! See how many people *your* officials would
have to move to match what ours did...
*YOUR* officials didn't move anybody. They moved themselves.
Yeah, no government work on the roads or traffic management.
Tell Fred to go ***** himself. The evacuation plan was created and
managed by our local officials and patrolled by our law
enforcement
agencies. And it worked for one million people.
You mean this plan?
In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind; Number of people without
cars makes evacuation difficult By Bruce Nolan, Staff writer, New
Orleans Times- Picayne, July 24, 2005:
City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give
the
poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the
event of a major hurricane, you're on your own.
So you want what? One of the poorest states in the union to crap out
cars for 100,000 people? You think we're rich or something? Our
entire
state budget is about the size of some city budgets.
Buses, Mark. Buses and drivers. A simple matter of planning ahead.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, I can't blame the mayor for not planning
ahead.
One million people were moved out of the way. One million. 80% of
Jefferson and Orleans parish. Almost one quarter of the population
of
our state. I want to see the rest of you pull that off. Go ahead.
Begin... now.
You don't give a flying ***** about our people. You're happy with
people dying long as you can suck George Bush's ***** one more time.
You don't know how much I care, Mark. But I don't care to hear all
these
excuses about the people who were responsible for disaster
preparation.
And don't try to tell me who did what in the evacuation. Your exact
location during the evacuation was: not fucking here. Mine was: in
the
middle of it.
Which doesn't give you any perspective on it.
Don't try to lie to me about my own backyard. It just makes you look
stupid.
Now you sound like a fundie. "Were you there?"
Truth be known, Fred, the _fundie_ angle is to always state what
conditions were like without any actual observation and pretending to
know those conditions better than anyone who might actually have
_been_ there. It's how fundies navigate the world without letting
their little house of cards fall down. Do you *honestly* think the
federal government bears _NO_ responsibility for the rising toll in
dollars and lives of this fiasco?
No, I don't believe that they bear *no* responsibility. I don't think
they bear *all* the responsibility.
I see shortcomings all around, at
the local level and the federal level.
I agree.
You honestly think the federal
government is 100% blameless for the horrific way this tragedy has
unfolded?
No, not at all. I'm sure that there were dropped balls all over the
place. But in my opinion, the sort of blame that is being thrown at them
is entirely inappropriate.
It's not too hard to gather the impression from everything
you've had to say on the matter that you somehow think the people of
NOLA _deserved_ this.
That's outrageous, Uncle Buck. I certainly do *not* feel that the people
of NOLA deserved this. I'm very sorry if I've given you that impression.
I think they were badly let down by their own local authorities who
failed to plan ahead even though they had personal experience after
Ivan.
Even if you were right about it being 100% the
fault of local officials, the people themselves wouldn't deserve what
is happening to them. If you don't feel that way, I would be _ever_
so grateful if you'd make that clear. And if you already have, I
missed it, and thank you kindly for doing so again.
Thank you for being reasonable about it.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
06 Sep 2005 11:41:04 PM |
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In episode <1126061828.e2f2bfa69ed219236013ed2283771a3f@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
I certainly do *not* feel that the people
of NOLA deserved this.
You fucking well do think that you *****. You'd be fine with all of us
dying if it were necessary to protect that rich frat boy prissing around
the Oval Office pretending to be a President.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
07 Sep 2005 08:53:05 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:77KdneNED5LD8oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net:
In episode <1126061828.e2f2bfa69ed219236013ed2283771a3f@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
I certainly do *not* feel that the people
of NOLA deserved this.
You fucking well do think that you *****. You'd be fine with all of us
dying if it were necessary to protect that rich frat boy prissing around
the Oval Office pretending to be a President.
Liar.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Pay attention! |
07 Sep 2005 11:02:12 AM |
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In episode <1126101186.8b51150f759df42eadabb4125e7de97c@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:77KdneNED5LD8oPeRVn-sQ@megapath.net:
In episode <1126061828.e2f2bfa69ed219236013ed2283771a3f@teranews>, Fred
Stone burst into the room and exclaimed:
I certainly do *not* feel that the people of NOLA deserved this.
You fucking well do think that you *****. You'd be fine with all of us
dying if it were necessary to protect that rich frat boy prissing around
the Oval Office pretending to be a President.
Liar.
Put it on a macro ***** face. I'll write you a Perl script so you can just
post "liar" to every post I make.
When it comes down to it *****, people realize *I* was here and *you*
are reading web pages. Yap about "perspective" all you want. I'm *laughing
at your senile old *****.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "towelie" |
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07 Sep 2005 06:20:47 AM |
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TV's Fred Stone wrote:
You don't know how much I care, Mark. But I don't care to hear all these
excuses about the people who were responsible for disaster preparation.
But you're willing to make any and all excuses for your hero when he fucks
up.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Sep 2005 09:42:23 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:2PednYHLU5GUUIPeRVn-hw@centurytel.net:
TV's Fred Stone wrote:
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