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Religions > Atheism |
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"Cropdustersal" |
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20 Oct 2004 10:51:37 PM |
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(OT) Peace activists & Nader |
Peace activists have nothing to lose by voting for Nader
by Salvador Astucia, Oct. 17, 2004
Many Americans, particularly liberal-minded types, like
and respect Ralph Nader a great deal, and many would vote
for him as President in November 2004 if it seemed remotely
possible that he would win. But such Americans do not want
to vote for Nader because they desperately want to remove
President George Walker Bush from the White House. It has
become their only objective. Speaking as a peace activist,
I fail to see the benefit merely removing Bush from office,
particularly if the successor's core values are no different
from the sitting president's. On the major issues of war and
peace, President Bush and Democratic Senator John Kerry are
virtually identical. Kerry quibbles over Bush's handling of
the Iraq War and the War on Terrorism, but Kerry's voting
record reveals he supports Bush's foreign policy as much as
any Republican politician on Capitol Hill, not to mention
that Kerry aggressively supports America's failed Middle
Eastern policy over the past fifty years (a policy which
bows to Israel and condemns Arab and Moslem nations at every
turn). On October 11, 2002, Kerry voted to approve a joint
Senate and House Resolution which gave President Bush
authorization to use military force against Iraq (H.J.
Resolution 114). In addition, Kerry voted for the Patriot
Act. Yet Kerry and his Democratic running mate, Senator
John Edwards, both criticize Bush's ongoing War on Terrorism
and Bush's handling of the Iraq War.
To read more, click here:
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/nader.htm
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Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/
Also see Astucia's homepage: http://www.jfkmontreal.com
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| User: "Cropdustersal" |
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| Title: Re: (OT) Peace activists & Nader |
27 Oct 2004 12:13:10 AM |
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Comments below are USENET responses to the following article:
"Peace activists have nothing to lose by voting for Nader"
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/nader.htm
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[Mister Charlie]
Bush doesn't give a ***** about any message we send
him after the election. Cheney and Bush are the most
arrogant bunch in a century, harking back to robber
baron days. What they say now and what they do
after Nov 2 are two entirely different things. Nader
getting 2% or 6% of the vote isn't going to send ANY
mandate to Bush.
[Salvador]
I don't deny that Cheny is a rat, and Bush definitely
made the wrong decision to invade Iraq. But another
aspect of the occupation plan was to install 14 military
bases in Iraq, something Bush has apparently halted,
or at least slowed down. The original plan was to
put an Israeli loyalist in charge of Iraq which would
mean Israel would indirectly control the 14 military
bases, not to mention the oil reserves.
Bush has already dropped the notion of installing
a permanent US footprint in Iraq and I expect he will
try to pull out sooner than later. Israeli loyalists
are pushing hard to get Bush out and Kerry in because
they know Kerry will deliver the goods. Kerry is another
Israeli loyalist and will certainly push for the military
bases to be built in Iraq. The Zionists' desperation
to unseat Bush revealed itself fully two days ago [around
Oct. 21, 2004] when born-again Christian and non-Jewish
Zionist Pat Robertson was critical of Bush, claiming he
(Robertson) warned Bush that a lot of American soldiers
would die in if Bush chose to use military force against
Iraq. I wonder how much money the Zionists paid Robertson
to turn on Bush.
Anyway, I think we should keep Bush in office by voting
for Nader, thereby giving Nader's withdrawal plan more
credibility. And as icing on the cake, it would be
nice to weaken Bush further by taking Democratic
control of the House and Senate.
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To read more USENET discussions with Salvador about
Ralph Nader's plans to withdraw from Iraq, click here:
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/Usenet/nader_iraq.htm
Salvador Astucia
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Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/
Also see Astucia's homepage: http://www.jfkmontreal.com
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