but there are certain things a straight guy just can't stand watching!

Now

"The L Word" on the other hand...THAT I can watch!!! Girl on girl
action....YAY!!!
:-D

<snorkle>

But... but... why do straight guys get turned on by the sight of women
discovering they don't need him?

I'm sorry...it's something you will just never understand!

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:23:17 +1000 in episode
<4161db0e$0$20125$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> we saw our hero
"Clayton: Ready At The Drop Of A Gut!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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I keep thinking the same thing.

And it could be worse too. Just look at (well, no, don't) that
atrocity "Queer as Farts" on Showtime...

Every one was raving about that show so I thoughts I'd have a look. I
lasted about 10 minutes. I'm sure it's quite a well made drama...

No it's not.

but there are certain things a straight guy just can't stand watching!

Now

"The L Word" on the other hand...THAT I can watch!!! Girl on girl
action....YAY!!!
:-D

<snorkle>

But... but... why do straight guys get turned on by the sight of women
discovering they don't need him?

I'm sorry...it's something you will just never understand!

"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:23:17 +1000 in episode
<4161db0e$0$20125$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> we saw our hero
"Clayton:
Ready At The Drop Of A Gut!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:-MOdnUxJ_fdL6PzcRVn-sA@megapath.net...

I keep thinking the same thing.

And it could be worse too. Just look at (well, no, don't) that
atrocity
"Queer as Farts" on Showtime...

Every one was raving about that show so I thoughts I'd have a look. I
lasted about 10 minutes. I'm sure it's quite a well made drama...

No it's not.

but there are certain things a straight guy just can't stand watching!
Now
"The L Word" on the other hand...THAT I can watch!!! Girl on girl
action....YAY!!!
:-D

<snorkle>

But... but... why do straight guys get turned on by the sight of women
discovering they don't need him?

I've wondered that myself. /shrug

I suppose there are some things I probably don't want to know.

"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:23:17 +1000 in episode
<4161db0e$0$20125$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> we saw our hero
"Clayton: Ready At The Drop Of A Gut!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:-MOdnUxJ_fdL6PzcRVn-sA@megapath.net...

I keep thinking the same thing.

And it could be worse too. Just look at (well, no, don't) that
atrocity "Queer as Farts" on Showtime...

Every one was raving about that show so I thoughts I'd have a look. I
lasted about 10 minutes. I'm sure it's quite a well made drama...

No it's not.

but there are certain things a straight guy just can't stand watching!
Now "The L Word" on the other hand...THAT I can watch!!! Girl on
girl action....YAY!!!
:-D

<snorkle>

But... but... why do straight guys get turned on by the sight of women
discovering they don't need him?

I've wondered that myself. /shrug

I suppose there are some things I probably don't want to know. --

"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:23:17 +1000 in episode
<4161db0e$0$20125$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> we saw our hero "Clayton:
Ready At The Drop Of A Gut!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:-MOdnUxJ_fdL6PzcRVn-sA@megapath.net...

I keep thinking the same thing.

And it could be worse too. Just look at (well, no, don't) that atrocity
"Queer as Farts" on Showtime...

Every one was raving about that show so I thoughts I'd have a look. I
lasted about 10 minutes. I'm sure it's quite a well made drama...

No it's not.

but there are certain things a straight guy just can't stand watching! Now
"The L Word" on the other hand...THAT I can watch!!! Girl on girl
action....YAY!!!
:-D

<snorkle>

But... but... why do straight guys get turned on by the sight of women
discovering they don't need him?

I've wondered that myself. /shrug

I suppose there are some things I probably don't want to know.

<stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:28:11 +1000, "Clayton: Ready At The Drop Of A
Gut!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote:

"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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Okay, I gotta ask...

You got any idea what is it about the movie "Hocus Pocus" that

upsets

Wiccans and pagans?

LOL - I LOVE that movie. I think it's hilarious and was thinking

about

popping it in the VCR today :).

What probably upsets the Wiccans and pagans is that the three witches

are

basically evil hags that like to murder children to steal their "life
essence", which keeps them young. They're still a freakin' hoot

though

:)

(I know at least one pagan that just rants about it. I kinda...

like

it.

But, well, it is Bette Midler and if I don't keep up my twinkie

points,

I'll lose my queer card!)

She is truly hilarious in this movie - "Don't get your knickers in a

twist!

We're just a bunch of old spinster ladies!"

I think the bottom line is that it does portray witchcraft as evil

and

that

has a tendency to ***** off the Wiccan/pagan community. Honestly?

IT'S

A

FREAKING KIDS' MOVIE AND SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN AS A SERIOUS PORTRAYAL OF
WITCHES!"

But that's just me :)

And would it be any different with a hilarious children's movie that

portrays

atheists as people who kill children? "Dont get your knickers in a

twist!

We're

just a bunch of old freethinkers!" :-P

If you are lucky enough to find it, watch a 1980s documentary called "The
Atomic Cafe". It's all the anti-communist, "duck and cover" type nuclear
propoganda from the 50s and 60s....and YES.....the atheists DO want to

kill

your children!!!! RUN ALL YOU GOOD CHRISTIAN CHILDREN...RUN FROM THE

EVIL

GODLESS COMMIES!!!!

Seriously...it's a brilliant documentary! There's no commentary...it

just

lets the propoganda tell it's own lies and condemn itself with what we

now

know.

/cue "Reefer Madness" from the 30's.

Watched the DVD recently...it's still a kack. You have to get the two
companion pieces..."Assassin of Youth" and "Marijuana...Weed With It's Roots
In Hell".

"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:

"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:U8ydnbCBJ4LS8vzcRVn-tw@megapath.net...

Okay, I gotta ask...

You got any idea what is it about the movie "Hocus Pocus" that
upsets
Wiccans and pagans?

LOL - I LOVE that movie. I think it's hilarious and was thinking
about
popping it in the VCR today :).

What probably upsets the Wiccans and pagans is that the three
witches are
basically evil hags that like to murder children to steal their
"life essence", which keeps them young. They're still a freakin'
hoot though
:)

(I know at least one pagan that just rants about it. I kinda...
like it.
But, well, it is Bette Midler and if I don't keep up my twinkie
points,
I'll lose my queer card!)

She is truly hilarious in this movie - "Don't get your knickers in a
twist!
We're just a bunch of old spinster ladies!"

I think the bottom line is that it does portray witchcraft as evil
and that
has a tendency to ***** off the Wiccan/pagan community. Honestly?
IT'S A
FREAKING KIDS' MOVIE AND SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN AS A SERIOUS PORTRAYAL
OF WITCHES!"

But that's just me :)

And would it be any different with a hilarious children's movie that
portrays atheists as people who kill children?

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. People getting all upset
about
a stupid Disney movie and blowing out of proportion. Whatever.

*I'm* not one of them, I assure you :-)

"Dont get your knickers in a twist! We're just a bunch of old
freethinkers!" :-P

Har de har har. I'm honestly surprised you're don't see the
difference. The characters in the movie were NOT Wiccans and/or Pagans.
They were cartoon-like representations of Salem witches - which any
idiot should know
never existed.

Unfortunately, a great many people *are* idiots, Robyn. As I know you've
had
experience with. It is not the general viewing public that upsets
Wiccans and
Pagans about this movie. They are upset because some people -- enough
people,
apparently -- see even a silly movie like this as justification for
their bigotry and hatred. There are also a "minstral show" aspect to the
movie that
annoy a great many practicing Witches.

I found the movie to be typical Disney fare, barely worth a second
glance (except for Bette Midler and Kathy Najimy, I would never have
seen it.) It certainly isn't anything that annoys me, other than the
usual Disney saccharine
coating and an ending that makes maple syrup taste bitter. But I can see
why
people get upset over it.

Well, I have to agree that I can see why SOME people might have a problem
with it, but I'm sure anyone bothered by that particular movie probably
has way too thin of a skin.

"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:

"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:U8ydnbCBJ4LS8vzcRVn-tw@megapath.net...

Okay, I gotta ask...

You got any idea what is it about the movie "Hocus Pocus" that
upsets
Wiccans and pagans?

LOL - I LOVE that movie. I think it's hilarious and was thinking
about
popping it in the VCR today :).

What probably upsets the Wiccans and pagans is that the three witches
are
basically evil hags that like to murder children to steal their "life
essence", which keeps them young. They're still a freakin' hoot
though
:)

(I know at least one pagan that just rants about it. I kinda... like
it.
But, well, it is Bette Midler and if I don't keep up my twinkie
points,
I'll lose my queer card!)

She is truly hilarious in this movie - "Don't get your knickers in a
twist!
We're just a bunch of old spinster ladies!"

I think the bottom line is that it does portray witchcraft as evil and
that
has a tendency to ***** off the Wiccan/pagan community. Honestly?
IT'S A
FREAKING KIDS' MOVIE AND SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN AS A SERIOUS PORTRAYAL OF
WITCHES!"

But that's just me :)

And would it be any different with a hilarious children's movie that
portrays atheists as people who kill children?

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. People getting all upset
about
a stupid Disney movie and blowing out of proportion. Whatever.

*I'm* not one of them, I assure you :-)

"Dont get your knickers in a twist! We're
just a bunch of old freethinkers!" :-P

Har de har har. I'm honestly surprised you're don't see the difference.
The characters in the movie were NOT Wiccans and/or Pagans. They were
cartoon-like representations of Salem witches - which any idiot should
know
never existed.

Unfortunately, a great many people *are* idiots, Robyn. As I know you've
had
experience with. It is not the general viewing public that upsets Wiccans
and
Pagans about this movie. They are upset because some people -- enough
people,
apparently -- see even a silly movie like this as justification for their
bigotry and hatred. There are also a "minstral show" aspect to the movie
that
annoy a great many practicing Witches.

I found the movie to be typical Disney fare, barely worth a second glance
(except for Bette Midler and Kathy Najimy, I would never have seen it.) It
certainly isn't anything that annoys me, other than the usual Disney
saccharine
coating and an ending that makes maple syrup taste bitter. But I can see
why
people get upset over it.

Well, I have to agree that I can see why SOME people might have a problem
with it, but I'm sure anyone bothered by that particular movie probably has
way too thin of a skin.