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"Gregory Gadow" |
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04 Nov 2005 10:11:35 PM |
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OT: Questions for Harry Potter fans |
I am rereading book 6 (The Half-Blood Prince), and once again a bunch of
questions come up. I've tried researching the answers to no avail, so
I'm hoping that some of the more devoted fans in aa might have some
insight worth sharing.
1) Who sacked Fudge as Minister of Magic? How was his replacement
selected and appointed?
2) Where do wizarding children go to school *before* starting Hogwarts?
Is there a wizarding equivalent to Britain's primary school (ages 5 to
11)?
3) Is Hogwarts the only wizard secondary school in Britain? Where do
wizarding children go when they can not afford Hogwarts? Do they become
economically shut out from ever doing magic? If a child gets expelled
from Hogwarts, does that condemn them forever to a Muggle existence?
4) Hogwarts doesn't seem to teach reading or grammar. Given the amount
of reading and writing that are required of Hogwarts students, where is
a wizarding child expected to learn these skills? What of other skills
common in Muggle schools, like literature, mathematics, health and
general science? Are we to assume that there have never been any
wizarding poets, playwrites or scientists? Are witches and wizards
totally ignorant of algebra, Shakespeare and the cause of rainbows?
Just curious :-)
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Gregory Gadow
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state interest, is a sufficient rationale under the Equal Protection
Clause to justify a law that discriminates among groups of persons."
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Questions for Harry Potter fans |
04 Nov 2005 11:28:43 PM |
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Gregory Gadow wrote:
I am rereading book 6 (The Half-Blood Prince), and once again a bunch of
questions come up. I've tried researching the answers to no avail, so
I'm hoping that some of the more devoted fans in aa might have some
insight worth sharing.
1) Who sacked Fudge as Minister of Magic? How was his replacement
selected and appointed?
Can't remember for sure now, but don't think it was made explicit how
it happened.
2) Where do wizarding children go to school *before* starting Hogwarts?
Is there a wizarding equivalent to Britain's primary school (ages 5 to
11)?
I think the implication is that they go to regular school. Isn't that
what Harry did?
3) Is Hogwarts the only wizard secondary school in Britain?
That's the implication.
Where do wizarding children go when they can not afford Hogwarts?
Not sure, but I think it's implied there might be financial assistance.
Do they become
economically shut out from ever doing magic?
Don't think so; I think they're only restricted up until 17,
If a child gets expelled
from Hogwarts, does that condemn them forever to a Muggle existence?
Hagrid was expelled, and while he's not really supposed to do magic, he
hasn't been punished for doing it, when he does.
4) Hogwarts doesn't seem to teach reading or grammar. Given the amount
of reading and writing that are required of Hogwarts students, where is
a wizarding child expected to learn these skills? What of other skills
common in Muggle schools, like literature, mathematics, health and
general science? Are we to assume that there have never been any
wizarding poets, playwrites or scientists? Are witches and wizards
totally ignorant of algebra, Shakespeare and the cause of rainbows?
You're making this more difficult than it needs to be. You should look
at alt.fan.harry-potter.
Just curious :-)
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Questions for Harry Potter fans |
04 Nov 2005 11:20:18 PM |
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Gregory Gadow wrote:
Just curious :-)
You know, the story seems to be pretty entertaining when you suspend
disbelief enough....
Jim
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| User: "Emma Pease" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Questions for Harry Potter fans |
05 Nov 2005 01:30:07 AM |
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In article <436BDC97.B3426A6E@serv.net>, Gregory Gadow wrote:
I am rereading book 6 (The Half-Blood Prince), and once again a bunch of
questions come up. I've tried researching the answers to no avail, so
I'm hoping that some of the more devoted fans in aa might have some
insight worth sharing.
1) Who sacked Fudge as Minister of Magic? How was his replacement
selected and appointed?
Probably some sort of council or parliament gave him a vote of no
confidence and replaced him.
2) Where do wizarding children go to school *before* starting Hogwarts?
Is there a wizarding equivalent to Britain's primary school (ages 5 to
11)?
Probably home schooled. The Malfoys and other well-to-do families
possibly had tutors or governesses.
3) Is Hogwarts the only wizard secondary school in Britain? Where do
wizarding children go when they can not afford Hogwarts? Do they become
economically shut out from ever doing magic? If a child gets expelled
from Hogwarts, does that condemn them forever to a Muggle existence?
It may be on a sliding scale depending on the ability to pay. The
Weasleys don't seem to worry about direct school fees only about the
accessories.
4) Hogwarts doesn't seem to teach reading or grammar. Given the amount
of reading and writing that are required of Hogwarts students, where is
a wizarding child expected to learn these skills? What of other skills
common in Muggle schools, like literature, mathematics, health and
general science? Are we to assume that there have never been any
wizarding poets, playwrites or scientists? Are witches and wizards
totally ignorant of algebra, Shakespeare and the cause of rainbows?
And how good have wizards been shown at math or general science?
Hermione mentions in the first book that they aren't very logical.
Hermione is taking arithmancy so she may be getting regular
mathematics though the applications might be a bit unusual.
By 11 years old I suspect most students have the basics of reading and
writing down. The students do have to write reports in many of their
subjects so perhaps their teachers in those subjects are correcting
the reports for style as well as content.
Emma
ps. Have fun also calculating the number of witches and wizards in
Britain or for that matter at Hogswart.
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|_\/ Die Luft der Freiheit weht
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Questions for Harry Potter fans |
05 Nov 2005 02:11:44 AM |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:11:35 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
I am rereading book 6 (The Half-Blood Prince), and once again a bunch of
questions come up. I've tried researching the answers to no avail, so
I'm hoping that some of the more devoted fans in aa might have some
insight worth sharing.
1) Who sacked Fudge as Minister of Magic? How was his replacement
selected and appointed?
2) Where do wizarding children go to school *before* starting Hogwarts?
Is there a wizarding equivalent to Britain's primary school (ages 5 to
11)?
3) Is Hogwarts the only wizard secondary school in Britain? Where do
wizarding children go when they can not afford Hogwarts? Do they become
economically shut out from ever doing magic? If a child gets expelled
from Hogwarts, does that condemn them forever to a Muggle existence?
4) Hogwarts doesn't seem to teach reading or grammar. Given the amount
of reading and writing that are required of Hogwarts students, where is
a wizarding child expected to learn these skills? What of other skills
common in Muggle schools, like literature, mathematics, health and
general science? Are we to assume that there have never been any
wizarding poets, playwrites or scientists? Are witches and wizards
totally ignorant of algebra, Shakespeare and the cause of rainbows?
Just curious :-)
This is from the alt.Harry.Potter
I am rereading book 6 (The Half-Blood Prince), and once again a bunch
of
questions come up. I've tried researching the answers to no avail, so
I'm hoping that some of the more devoted fans in aa might have some
insight worth sharing.
What is aa?
1) Who sacked Fudge as Minister of Magic? How was his replacement
selected and appointed?
One assumes they are elected by some kind of democratic process. I
think
Scrimgeour was preferred because he was head of the auror department
and
that seemed necessary given Lord Voldemort's return.
2) Where do wizarding children go to school *before* starting
Hogwarts?
Is there a wizarding equivalent to Britain's primary school (ages 5 to
11)?
I think children with 2 wizard parents are home-schooled. Those
raised in
Muggle or half-Muggle households probably go to the same schools as
Muggles.
Whether they go to public or private schools ( whatever the British
equivalent is) depends upon the family.
3) Is Hogwarts the only wizard secondary school in Britain? Where do
wizarding children go when they can not afford Hogwarts? Do they
become
economically shut out from ever doing magic? If a child gets expelled
from Hogwarts, does that condemn them forever to a Muggle existence?
I think the answer is yes. There are scholarships for those that
can't
afford the supplies ( books, parchment, robes, owls, etc), otherwise I
think
the education is free. Evidence is Dumbledore's conversation with Tom
Riddle. The only example of one expelled who was underage is Hagrid
and he
obviously has been kept inside the wizarding community.
4) Hogwarts doesn't seem to teach reading or grammar. Given the amount
of reading and writing that are required of Hogwarts students, where
is
a wizarding child expected to learn these skills? What of other skills
common in Muggle schools, like literature, mathematics, health and
general science? Are we to assume that there have never been any
wizarding poets, playwrites or scientists? Are witches and wizards
totally ignorant of algebra, Shakespeare and the cause of rainbows?
JK Rowling can't provide all the answers. But it seems obvious to me
that
all the reading and writing instruction they get is before they enter
Hogwarts. Don't know about math. Maybe with magic you don't need to
know
how to balance your checkbook : )
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Questions for Harry Potter fans |
05 Nov 2005 02:41:08 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Gregory Gadow
(techbear@serv.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
3) Is Hogwarts the only wizard secondary school in Britain? Where do
wizarding children go when they can not afford Hogwarts? Do they become
economically shut out from ever doing magic? If a child gets expelled
from Hogwarts, does that condemn them forever to a Muggle existence?
Like getting expelled from Julliard, I guess, a lot can be said of
private lessons.
4) Hogwarts doesn't seem to teach reading or grammar. Given the amount
of reading and writing that are required of Hogwarts students, where is
a wizarding child expected to learn these skills? What of other skills
common in Muggle schools, like literature, mathematics, health and
general science? Are we to assume that there have never been any
wizarding poets, playwrites or scientists? Are witches and wizards
totally ignorant of algebra, Shakespeare and the cause of rainbows?
Think magic. Or maybe there's a downloadable databaswe somewhere...
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Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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"The world is only 5-6 thousand years old does not mean the planet
earth is only 5-6 thousand years old. There have been many worlds
created and destroyed on this planet. The creation of the planet is
described in Genesis 1. The creation of the world is described in
Genesis 2. Two different kind of creations." --Eric Brze
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