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12 Nov 2004 04:42:16 AM |
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OT: Steven Spielberg |
Fearful TV fails Private Ryan
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1349167,00.html
Spielberg film boycotted as Janet Jackson episode and the morality
vote expose censorship threat
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Friday November 12, 2004
The Guardian
More than 20 American TV stations last night boycotted a Veterans Day
screening of war picture Saving Private Ryan because of fears that
they would be censured by a newly aggressive television regulator over
the movie's violence and graphic language.
Network executives said the rebellion by affiliates of the ABC
television network in Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix and other leading
markets was sparked by fears of reprisals from the Federal
Communications Commission.
Suzanne Goldenberg
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=18510aff.0401030302.3bb6299b%40posting.google.com
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Steven Spielberg
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http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Steven+Spielberg%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&tab=nw&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
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http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Steven%20Spielberg&safe=images&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
FCC
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http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=FCC&sa=N&tab=nw
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Federal Communications Commission
http://news.google.com/news?q=%20%22Federal%20Communications%20Commission%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Federal+Communications+Commission%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&tab=nw&ie=UTF-8&sa=N
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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12 Nov 2004 04:44:26 AM |
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On 12 Nov 2004 02:42:16 -0800, (maff) wrote:
Fearful TV fails Private Ryan
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1349167,00.html
Spielberg film boycotted as Janet Jackson episode and the morality
vote expose censorship threat
I find it fantastic that an appointed federal comission, not elected,
and with no support from the people or anyone else but the
administration, can decide for themselves to nullify the constitution
when it comes to written media and TV.
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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12 Nov 2004 12:54:41 PM |
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"Rune Børsjø" wrote:
On 12 Nov 2004 02:42:16 -0800, (maff) wrote:
Fearful TV fails Private Ryan
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1349167,00.html
Spielberg film boycotted as Janet Jackson episode and the morality
vote expose censorship threat
I find it fantastic that an appointed federal comission, not elected,
and with no support from the people or anyone else but the
administration, can decide for themselves to nullify the constitution
when it comes to written media and TV.
You misunderstand the way the federal bureaucracy works in the United
States. Nothing too much to worry about; most Americans don't get it,
either. The US Constitution can be referenced at
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html
Congress has the authority to regulate interstate commerce (Article I,
Section 8, clause 3.) The Courts have long recognized that
telecommunications fall under this commerce clause (for various and
sundry reasons, this includes even strictly local broadcasts that are not
interstate.) As such, Congress has a constitutional right to regulate
telecommunications. Thus, laws such as the Telecommunications Act and
others.
Now, having laws are all fine and good, but you need a way to implement
and enforce those laws. To this end, Congress authorized the executive
branch to create an office that will implement and execute those laws,
the Federal Communications Commission. Their job is to create and enforce
a set of standards that comply with the laws passed by Congress. That
obcenity is banned from US airwaves is a law duly passed by both houses
of Congress under their constitutional authority and signed by the
president (many decades ago, I point out.) Whether the televised flash of
Janet Jackson's tit or the "coarse language" on the Movie of the Week
might or might not be considered obscene is an *application* of that law,
which falls squarely in the constitutional authority of the executive
branch and which, in this case, has been delegated by Congress to an
executive department created specifically to apply that law (among
others.)
Here endeth the civics lesson :-P
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary,
in
the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary,
self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition
of tyranny." - James Madison, _The Federalist_, #47
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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12 Nov 2004 11:18:08 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:54:41 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
Congress has the authority to regulate interstate commerce (Article I,
Section 8, clause 3.) The Courts have long recognized that
telecommunications fall under this commerce clause (for various and
sundry reasons, this includes even strictly local broadcasts that are not
interstate.) As such, Congress has a constitutional right to regulate
telecommunications. Thus, laws such as the Telecommunications Act and
others.
Regulating interstate commerce... uh... I doubt the founding fathers
had conceived of TV and radio when they wrote this. Ut sounds like a
***** "just in case" clause which congress and the FCC have used
and abused to COMPLETELY overstepped their boundries.
the Federal Communications Commission. Their job is to create and enforce
a set of standards that comply with the laws passed by Congress. That
So it's congress' fault and who are a corrupt institution, gotcha.
obcenity is banned from US airwaves is a law duly passed by both houses
of Congress under their constitutional authority and signed by the
I seriously doubt their authority. It seems to me they're abusing the
interstate commerce regulation clause. Doesn't the implication of
interstate also mean that local channels can broadcast whatever they
want?
president (many decades ago, I point out.) Whether the televised flash of
Janet Jackson's tit or the "coarse language" on the Movie of the Week
might or might not be considered obscene is an *application* of that law,
which falls squarely in the constitutional authority of the executive
branch and which, in this case, has been delegated by Congress to an
executive department created specifically to apply that law (among
others.)
Here endeth the civics lesson :-P
I appreciate it, thanks Gregory. But I don't understand how you can
claim constitutionality when as far as I can tell they're simply
abusing a paragraph that was invented 175 years before TV and a
hundred years before radio to govern interstate import/export.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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13 Nov 2004 10:19:16 AM |
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Rune Børsjø <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in
news:a26bp01tbflha61hmctavft68nafo0bcbj@4ax.com:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:54:41 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
Congress has the authority to regulate interstate commerce (Article I,
Section 8, clause 3.) The Courts have long recognized that
telecommunications fall under this commerce clause (for various and
sundry reasons, this includes even strictly local broadcasts that are
not interstate.) As such, Congress has a constitutional right to
regulate telecommunications. Thus, laws such as the Telecommunications
Act and others.
Regulating interstate commerce... uh... I doubt the founding fathers
had conceived of TV and radio when they wrote this. Ut sounds like a
***** "just in case" clause which congress and the FCC have used
and abused to COMPLETELY overstepped their boundries.
the Federal Communications Commission. Their job is to create and
enforce a set of standards that comply with the laws passed by
Congress. That
So it's congress' fault and who are a corrupt institution, gotcha.
obcenity is banned from US airwaves is a law duly passed by both
houses of Congress under their constitutional authority and signed by
the
I seriously doubt their authority. It seems to me they're abusing the
interstate commerce regulation clause. Doesn't the implication of
interstate also mean that local channels can broadcast whatever they
want?
The potential for radio signals to cross state lines makes it federal.
president (many decades ago, I point out.) Whether the televised flash
of Janet Jackson's tit or the "coarse language" on the Movie of the
Week might or might not be considered obscene is an *application* of
that law, which falls squarely in the constitutional authority of the
executive branch and which, in this case, has been delegated by
Congress to an executive department created specifically to apply that
law (among others.)
Here endeth the civics lesson :-P
I appreciate it, thanks Gregory. But I don't understand how you can
claim constitutionality when as far as I can tell they're simply
abusing a paragraph that was invented 175 years before TV and a
hundred years before radio to govern interstate import/export.
If we toss out the "abuse" of the interstate commerce clause we'd have
to give up about three quarters of Federal regulatory powers. Everything
from environmental law to the "right" to abortions is crammed in under
that clause among others. Including the planned attempt to federalize
gay marriage "rights".
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Save Your Dixie Cups, The South Will Rise Again!
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| User: "georgann" |
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12 Nov 2004 07:58:22 AM |
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Spielberg film boycotted as Janet Jackson episode and the morality vote
expose censorship threat
Rune Børsjø wrote:
I find it fantastic that an appointed federal comission, not elected, and with
no support from the people or anyone else but the administration, can decide
for themselves to nullify the constitution when it comes to written media and
TV.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's pretty fantastic alright. There's nothing in the constitution about
media and TV and you can always watch the video or DVD if you're so
determined.
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«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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12 Nov 2004 08:01:15 AM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BDBA2BAD.344C4%chenault@mindspring.com...
Spielberg film boycotted as Janet Jackson episode and the morality vote
expose censorship threat
Rune Børsjø wrote:
I find it fantastic that an appointed federal comission, not elected, and
with
no support from the people or anyone else but the administration, can
decide
for themselves to nullify the constitution when it comes to written media
and
TV.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's pretty fantastic alright. There's nothing in the constitution about
media and TV and you can always watch the video or DVD if you're so
determined.
Why was it shown in some parts of the country and not others? I can't wait
to hear your ***** theory on that.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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12 Nov 2004 10:56:08 AM |
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Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the
consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed
by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in
cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual
service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for
the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be
compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be
deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor
shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy
and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the
crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously
ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the
accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have
compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the
assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty
dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by
a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States,
than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel
and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or
to the people.
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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12 Nov 2004 08:35:38 AM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:58:22 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
That's pretty fantastic alright. There's nothing in the constitution about
media and TV and you can always watch the video or DVD if you're so
determined.
ROFL! You neocons sure are liberal in some respects. Specifically,
with the TRUTH and your relationship to LAWS. If they don't suit you,
you change their meaning or ignore them alltogether. I guess you CAN
learn things from the HOLY BABBLE afterall.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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12 Nov 2004 08:47:32 AM |
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"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
news:rci9p0tccbn05l7193to8q18pa9fhg7fdt@4ax.com...
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:58:22 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
That's pretty fantastic alright. There's nothing in the constitution about
media and TV and you can always watch the video or DVD if you're so
determined.
ROFL! You neocons sure are liberal in some respects. Specifically,
with the TRUTH and your relationship to LAWS. If they don't suit you,
you change their meaning or ignore them alltogether. I guess you CAN
learn things from the HOLY BABBLE afterall.
How much do you want to bet she'd have a bloody hissy fit if the movie was
"The Passion" instead of "Saving Private Ryan".
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Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "georgann" |
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12 Nov 2004 09:31:26 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
How much do you want to bet she'd have a bloody hissy fit if the movie was
"The Passion" instead of "Saving Private Ryan".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I don't expect to see The Passion of the Christ" ever shown on TV.
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(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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12 Nov 2004 09:35:09 AM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BDBA417D.345B5%chenault@mindspring.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
How much do you want to bet she'd have a bloody hissy fit if the movie
was
"The Passion" instead of "Saving Private Ryan".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I don't expect to see The Passion of the Christ" ever shown on TV.
Thank goodness - The world doesn't need to see that kind of violence.
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Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "georgann" |
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12 Nov 2004 09:38:19 AM |
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georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I don't expect to see The Passion of the Christ" ever shown on TV.
Robibnikoff wrote:
Thank goodness - The world doesn't need to see that kind of violence.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I imagine that's what some of the ABC affiliates said about "Private Ryan".
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(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
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12 Nov 2004 09:47:02 AM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BDBA431A.345C3%chenault@mindspring.com...
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I don't expect to see The Passion of the Christ" ever shown on TV.
Robibnikoff wrote:
Thank goodness - The world doesn't need to see that kind of violence.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I imagine that's what some of the ABC affiliates said about "Private
Ryan".
At least WWII was a real occurance.
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Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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15 Nov 2004 07:08:51 AM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Robibnikoff wrote:
How much do you want to bet she'd have a bloody hissy fit if the movie was
"The Passion" instead of "Saving Private Ryan".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I don't expect to see The Passion of the Christ" ever shown on TV.
Why not? I saw it on pay-per-view TV last month.
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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| User: "georgann" |
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15 Nov 2004 08:47:15 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
How much do you want to bet she'd have a bloody hissy fit if the movie was
"The Passion" instead of "Saving Private Ryan".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I don't expect to see The Passion of the Christ" ever shown on TV.
Elroy Willis wrote:
Why not? I saw it on pay-per-view TV last month.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's the point. You paid to see it ... just like buying the DVD. But for
it to appear on public airwaves (hence forth known as the networks - as
opposed to paid TV) the violence would never get past the censors. And
that's OK with me. Not everyone should see it.
--
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
(¸.·'´(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)`'·.¸)
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15 Nov 2004 08:56:35 AM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Robibnikoff wrote:
How much do you want to bet she'd have a bloody hissy fit if the movie
was "The Passion" instead of "Saving Private Ryan".
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
I don't expect to see The Passion of the Christ" ever shown on TV.
Elroy Willis wrote:
Why not? I saw it on pay-per-view TV last month.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's the point. You paid to see it ... just like buying the DVD. But for
it to appear on public airwaves (hence forth known as the networks - as
opposed to paid TV) the violence would never get past the censors. And
that's OK with me. Not everyone should see it.
I dunno what odds I'd give for it showing up on so-called "free"
network TV. It might actually get a lot of support from network
affiliates and advertisers in the born-again Bible belt.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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14 Nov 2004 12:03:02 PM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
There's nothing in the constitution about
media and TV
A document written before a technology was invented makes no mention of
that technology? Shocking!
The Constitution does call for protection of speech, however, and that
protection applies to any medium of communication you care to discuss.
and you can always watch the video or DVD if you're so
determined.
You can always turn off the TV if a program offends you. That way,
you've exercised your freedom of choice without forcing your beliefs
onto the rest of the country.
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| User: "georgann" |
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15 Nov 2004 08:45:11 AM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
There's nothing in the constitution about media and TV
Brian E. Clark wrote:
A document written before a technology was invented makes no mention of that
technology? Shocking! The Constitution does call for protection of speech,
however, and that protection applies to any medium of communication you care
to discuss.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
So it is. And if that speech is offensive to people but "imposed" by being
on the public airwaves certain restrictions apply. If you pay for cable you
can watch anything they put out. But if its public airwaves, you cannot
impose any sort of content under the protection of free speech. The Supreme
Court has been very consistent in its findings over the past century with
regards to this.
and you can always watch the video or DVD if you're so determined.
Brian E. Clark wrote:
You can always turn off the TV if a program offends you. That way, you've
exercised your freedom of choice without forcing your beliefs onto the rest of
the country.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Ditto.
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(`'·.¸(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
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22 Jan 2005 07:07:52 PM |
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georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
So it is. And if that speech is offensive to people but "imposed" by being
on the public airwaves certain restrictions apply.
That's dishonest, georgann. You can spin it however you like,
but the fact remains: If you retain the option of turning off
any program that troubles you, you cannot claim something is
being imposed upon you. By contrast, whenver the FCC restricts
programming based on a goody-two-shoes, Baptist sensibility,
imposition is undeniable.
You keep harping about cable and other forms of pay TV, as if
there were no problem there. What you're really saying, of
course, is that people with enough money should enjoy choice and
free speech, while people of limited means have no such rights.
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| Title: Re: OT: Steven Spielberg |
12 Nov 2004 12:21:36 PM |
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Rune Børsjø <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in
news:ut49p09ekasmpkad35co66led8ppqt0knk@4ax.com:
On 12 Nov 2004 02:42:16 -0800, (maff) wrote:
Fearful TV fails Private Ryan
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1349167,00.html
Spielberg film boycotted as Janet Jackson episode and the morality
vote expose censorship threat
I find it fantastic that an appointed federal comission, not elected,
and with no support from the people or anyone else but the
administration, can decide for themselves to nullify the constitution
when it comes to written media and TV.
What's even more fantastic is the idea that the FCC did anything at all
about keeping the movie from being shown.
It ran, as scheduled, here in Youngstown, OH.
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Fred Stone
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Save Your Dixie Cups, The South Will Rise Again!
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Steven Spielberg |
12 Nov 2004 07:56:14 AM |
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maff wrote:
Network executives said the rebellion by affiliates of the ABC television
network in Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix and other leading markets was sparked by
fears of reprisals from the Federal Communications Commission.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Tempest in a teapot.
Nothing stopping anyone from playing the video / DVD.
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on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Steven Spielberg |
12 Nov 2004 08:00:26 AM |
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"georgann" <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:BDBA2B2C.344C3%chenault@mindspring.com...
maff wrote:
Network executives said the rebellion by affiliates of the ABC television
network in Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix and other leading markets was sparked
by
fears of reprisals from the Federal Communications Commission.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Tempest in a teapot.
Nothing stopping anyone from playing the video / DVD.
And nothing stopped it from being shown on ABC in my neck of the woods
either. Your point?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Steven Spielberg |
12 Nov 2004 09:29:27 AM |
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Network executives said the rebellion by affiliates of the ABC television
network in Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix and other leading markets was sparked by
fears of reprisals from the Federal Communications Commission.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Tempest in a teapot.
Nothing stopping anyone from playing the video / DVD.
Robibnikoff wrote:
And nothing stopped it from being shown on ABC in my neck of the woods either.
Your point?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
My point is the FCC didn't censor the movie since only some local affiliates
decided it was too chancy. But some of the hysterical libs among us are
intent on accusing the FCC and, by extension, the Bush administration. Such
accusations only make them look ridiculous.
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«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
"As Benjamin Franklin left the State House in Philadelphia
on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
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