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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Sep 2005 07:16:18 PM |
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OT: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
John Hostettler - IN
Steve King - IA
Butch Otter - ID
Ron Paul - TX
James Sensenbrenner - WI
Tom Tancredo - CO
Lynn Westmoreland - GA
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll460.xml
Sensenbrenner is also refusing to hold hearings on relaxing (or even
waving) the new, stricter bankruptcy law standards for Katrina victims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4245264.stm
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Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
17 Sep 2005 08:07:20 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
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Ron Paul - TX
Ron Paul is a Libertarian who runs as a Republican. He introduced a bill to
legalize industrial hemp, so he can't be all bad.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
18 Sep 2005 05:57:43 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:07:20 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
[...]
Ron Paul - TX
Ron Paul is a Libertarian who runs as a Republican. He introduced a bill to
legalize industrial hemp, so he can't be all bad.
WOW! Industrial strength grass: Man, that's somethin else. (:-)
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
18 Sep 2005 12:39:16 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
John Hostettler - IN
Steve King - IA
Butch Otter - ID
Ron Paul - TX
James Sensenbrenner - WI
Tom Tancredo - CO
Lynn Westmoreland - GA
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll460.xml
Sensenbrenner is also refusing to hold hearings on relaxing (or even
waving) the new, stricter bankruptcy law standards for Katrina victims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4245264.stm
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Mark K. Bilbo
I hope they're all running for office next year
and that they all lose. They're all a disgrace to
the human race. Sesenbrenner in particular.
What a waste of human skin he is.
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper,
High Priestess Bastet of the Unchurch Temple of Si & Am
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
17 Sep 2005 07:25:54 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
Damn! Oh well :(
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
17 Sep 2005 08:15:34 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
Damn! Oh well :(
For what it's worth (and bearing in mind we're talking about
politicians) most of the ones I scanned had the same objection. It
wasn't that they didn't want to send aid -- and in fact, lots of them
had links to the Red Cross and such on their own web sites. It looks
like the objection has to do with accountability. In other words, what
they're saying is that they want to make sure the money actually gets
to the people it's supposed to.
http://tinyurl.com/a9z89
WASHINGTON -- New Jersey Rep. Scott Garrett said Thursday he voted
against sending $51.8 billion in emergency relief to the areas affected
by Hurricane Katrina because the bill contained no accountability
measures.
"I wanted to make sure that the people in the affected areas get every
bit of assistance they absolutely need," Garrett said in a telephone
interview from his office here. "We do that by making sure there's
accountability through FEMA (the Federal Emergency Management Agency)."
"Writing them a blank check and not being able to have oversight does
not achieve that," said Garrett, R-Wantage.
Garrett was one of only 11 House members, and the only member of the
New Jersey delegation, to vote against the measure. No Democrats voted
against it.
Garrett said he is not against sending the victims money.
"If they need $2 billion a day, then they need $2 billion a day," he
said. "But if things go wrong and people don't get what they need, it's
only going to be after the fact now that we can figure out what
happened."
Sunny
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
17 Sep 2005 11:05:26 PM |
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In <1127006134.349145.210430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
Damn! Oh well :(
For what it's worth (and bearing in mind we're talking about politicians)
most of the ones I scanned had the same objection. It wasn't that they
didn't want to send aid -- and in fact, lots of them had links to the Red
Cross and such on their own web sites. It looks like the objection has to
do with accountability. In other words, what they're saying is that they
want to make sure the money actually gets to the people it's supposed to.
So they *say. But the most pork filled bill in US history was also just
passed by that same Republican dominated Congress...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
17 Sep 2005 11:58:37 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <1127006134.349145.210430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
Damn! Oh well :(
For what it's worth (and bearing in mind we're talking about politicians)
most of the ones I scanned had the same objection. It wasn't that they
didn't want to send aid -- and in fact, lots of them had links to the Red
Cross and such on their own web sites. It looks like the objection has to
do with accountability. In other words, what they're saying is that they
want to make sure the money actually gets to the people it's supposed to.
So they *say.
<ahem!>
I already *said* they were politicians :-)
But the most pork filled bill in US history was also just
passed by that same Republican dominated Congress...
This is a fun site. See just what *your* state did to increase federal
spending...
http://tinyurl.com/7nehp
By the way, just for fun, a comparison of those names and the
Republicans who voted against the budget turns up Hostettler and Paul
as also voting against the budget.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll088.xml
Sunny
who is still sorting out how to use these government pages to figure
out who's doing what
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
18 Sep 2005 07:55:15 AM |
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In <1127019516.996270.232820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <1127006134.349145.210430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:S5adncrHDLlILLHeRVn-ug@megapath.net...
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
Damn! Oh well :(
For what it's worth (and bearing in mind we're talking about
politicians) most of the ones I scanned had the same objection. It
wasn't that they didn't want to send aid -- and in fact, lots of them
had links to the Red Cross and such on their own web sites. It looks
like the objection has to do with accountability. In other words,
what they're saying is that they want to make sure the money actually
gets to the people it's supposed to.
So they *say.
<ahem!>
I already *said* they were politicians :-)
But the most pork filled bill in US history was also just passed by that
same Republican dominated Congress...
This is a fun site. See just what *your* state did to increase federal
spending...
http://tinyurl.com/7nehp
By the way, just for fun, a comparison of those names and the Republicans
who voted against the budget turns up Hostettler and Paul as also voting
against the budget.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll088.xml
But what's interesting is Paul voted *for* the pork barrel transportation
bill (Mr. Libertarian hisownself hm...):
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll227.xml
I'll give them this much, ten of the eleven voted *against the Pork Bill
(HR 3)...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
18 Sep 2005 04:16:39 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <1127019516.996270.232820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
But what's interesting is Paul voted *for* the pork barrel transportation
bill (Mr. Libertarian hisownself hm...):
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll227.xml
For what it's worth, I do some work for the local public transit
authority, and they really needed that bill to go through. It's been
held up for some three years, with some sorts of extensions given on
the older version.
I'll give them this much, ten of the eleven voted *against the Pork Bill
(HR 3)...
Okay.
I'm fed up trying to navigate these sites.
How the *hell* do you tell which bill is which and what it does without
wading through the entire text of every single one -- which even the
people voting on them don't do.
Sunny
who doesn't mind parading her ignorance, if she thinks it can be
improved
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
19 Sep 2005 07:28:29 AM |
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In <1127078199.295868.264060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <1127019516.996270.232820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
But what's interesting is Paul voted *for* the pork barrel
transportation bill (Mr. Libertarian hisownself hm...):
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll227.xml
For what it's worth, I do some work for the local public transit
authority, and they really needed that bill to go through. It's been held
up for some three years, with some sorts of extensions given on the older
version.
Common pork tactic. Load up the bills that are needed.
I'll give them this much, ten of the eleven voted *against the Pork Bill
(HR 3)...
Okay.
I'm fed up trying to navigate these sites. How the *hell* do you tell
which bill is which and what it does without wading through the entire
text of every single one -- which even the people voting on them don't do.
Don't look at me. Took me forever to figure out that HR 3 was the pork
transportation bill. Especially because they love silly titles barely
related to the content. Used to be, bills were titled based on what they
*did. Now they're titled based on sound bites...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "stoney" |
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21 Sep 2005 08:23:01 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 07:28:29 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <1127078199.295868.264060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <1127019516.996270.232820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
But what's interesting is Paul voted *for* the pork barrel
transportation bill (Mr. Libertarian hisownself hm...):
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll227.xml
For what it's worth, I do some work for the local public transit
authority, and they really needed that bill to go through. It's been held
up for some three years, with some sorts of extensions given on the older
version.
Common pork tactic. Load up the bills that are needed.
I'll give them this much, ten of the eleven voted *against the Pork Bill
(HR 3)...
Okay.
I'm fed up trying to navigate these sites. How the *hell* do you tell
which bill is which and what it does without wading through the entire
text of every single one -- which even the people voting on them don't do.
Don't look at me. Took me forever to figure out that HR 3 was the pork
transportation bill. Especially because they love silly titles barely
related to the content. Used to be, bills were titled based on what they
*did. Now they're titled based on sound bites...
Lessens accountability.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
18 Sep 2005 07:36:36 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:05:26 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>
wrote:
So they *say. But the most pork filled bill in US history was also just
passed by that same Republican dominated Congress...
Remember, bilko, life is just a box of pork. All states received equally, and
that does include your own major pork state.
If it's Republican dominated, we must thank them for our share of the pork, and
now for the tremendous financial Katrina aid package. Did blanco do this on
purpose?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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18 Sep 2005 05:12:36 AM |
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In article <1127006134.349145.210430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"stillsunny1@yahoo.com" <stillsunny1@yahoo.com> wrote:
For what it's worth (and bearing in mind we're talking about
politicians) most of the ones I scanned had the same objection. It
wasn't that they didn't want to send aid -- and in fact, lots of them
had links to the Red Cross and such on their own web sites. It looks
like the objection has to do with accountability. In other words, what
they're saying is that they want to make sure the money actually gets
to the people it's supposed to.
I heard a report on NPR about this Friday, I think. All sorts of no-bid
contracts are being put out, with the opportunity to engage in lots of
corruption of the process... I guess $62 billion will do that.
IMO, anyone who would try to profit unfairly from this disaster is human
scum... but said scum wouldn't really be bothererd by that designation,
so long as they get their money.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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18 Sep 2005 12:15:46 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Mark K. Bilbo (alt-
atheism@org.webmaster) made the light shine upon us with this:
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
John Hostettler - IN
Steve King - IA
Butch Otter - ID
Ron Paul - TX
James Sensenbrenner - WI
Tom Tancredo - CO
Lynn Westmoreland - GA
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll460.xml
Sensenbrenner is also refusing to hold hearings on relaxing (or even
waving) the new, stricter bankruptcy law standards for Katrina victims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4245264.stm
Well, it passed. Overwhelmingly, I might add. Why dwell on the
negative?
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Plonked by Raytard
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: The 11 who voted against Katrina aid... |
18 Sep 2005 07:24:55 AM |
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In <Xns96D4E28906DA8vicman@216.196.97.136>, Uncle Vic
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Mark K. Bilbo (alt-
atheism@org.webmaster) made the light shine upon us with this:
Here are the 11 Republicans who voted against the Katrina aid bill:
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
John Hostettler - IN
Steve King - IA
Butch Otter - ID
Ron Paul - TX
James Sensenbrenner - WI
Tom Tancredo - CO
Lynn Westmoreland - GA
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll460.xml
Sensenbrenner is also refusing to hold hearings on relaxing (or even
waving) the new, stricter bankruptcy law standards for Katrina victims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4245264.stm
Well, it passed. Overwhelmingly, I might add. Why dwell on the negative?
Not the bankruptcy issue. Senselessbrenner is refusing to even hold
hearings...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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