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12 Aug 2005 04:14:39 PM |
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OT: The View From Crawford |
The View From Crawford
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/opinion/12fri3.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8905
The Bush administration's insistence that the economy is getting better
all the time only intensifies the anxiety that people feel.
Lessons for an Exit Strategy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/11/AR2005081101756.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6875
By Henry A. Kissinger
Friday, August 12, 2005; Page A19
There have been conflicting reports about the timing of American troop
withdrawals from Iraq. Gen. George Casey, commander of U.S. forces
there, has announced that the United States intends to begin a "fairly
substantial" withdrawal of U.S. forces after the projected December
elections establish a constitutional government. Other sources have
indicated that this will involve 30,000 troops, or some 22 percent of
U.S. forces in Iraq. Some high-level statements from Baghdad have
indicated that the beginning of withdrawals may be delayed until next
summer. On either schedule, progress is dependent upon improvements in
the security situation and in the training of Iraqi forces.
The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd
and thread
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=start&lgnF=y&webtag=ab-atheism2
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=4&tid=90&webtag=ab-atheism2
The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "DougC" |
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| Title: Re: OT: The View From Crawford |
12 Aug 2005 05:49:25 PM |
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maff wrote:
The Bush administration's insistence that the economy is getting better
all the time only intensifies the anxiety that people feel.
That is why I don't read the business section of the paper any more.
All that good news and indicators of a strong economy brings on the
jitters.
Lessons for an Exit Strategy
There have been conflicting reports about the timing of American troop
withdrawals from Iraq.
Yes, we need to nail that down and publish a clear timetable. How do
you expect the terrorists and the Al Qaida network to make their plans?
Doug Chandler
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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| Title: Re: OT: The View From Crawford |
12 Aug 2005 06:06:56 PM |
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DougC wrote:
maff wrote:
The Bush administration's insistence that the economy is getting better
all the time only intensifies the anxiety that people feel.
That is why I don't read the business section of the paper any more.
All that good news and indicators of a strong economy brings on the
jitters.
Oh, yeah, halleluljah the median weeks unemployed is back down
to 9.0.
Lessons for an Exit Strategy
There have been conflicting reports about the timing of American troop
withdrawals from Iraq.
Yes, we need to nail that down and publish a clear timetable. How do
you expect the terrorists and the Al Qaida network to make their plans?
You mean you can't leave until all the oil has been removed?
--Jeff
--
The shepherd always tries to persuade
the sheep that their interests and
his own are the same. --Stendhal
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| User: "Paul J Gans" |
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| Title: Re: OT: The View From Crawford |
12 Aug 2005 09:18:08 PM |
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In talk.origins Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
DougC wrote:
maff wrote:
The Bush administration's insistence that the economy is getting better
all the time only intensifies the anxiety that people feel.
That is why I don't read the business section of the paper any more.
All that good news and indicators of a strong economy brings on the
jitters.
Oh, yeah, halleluljah the median weeks unemployed is back down
to 9.0.
I know that everyone remembers that the "unemployment figures"
do NOT count people who have stopped looking for jobs.
They also count all jobs as equal. So if the Ford plant
closes in your town and 2000 folks lose there jobs and
a month later they've all been hired at McDonalds, there
is no unemployment from the plant closing.
But the average salary has dropped.
Guess what the average salary of the bottom 50% of the
folks in the US has been doing?
----- Paul J. Gans
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| User: "DougC" |
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| Title: Re: OT: The View From Crawford |
12 Aug 2005 07:00:53 PM |
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Jeffrey Turner wrote:
You mean you can't leave until all the oil has been removed?
Do you mean all that free oil that the US has been stealing from Iraq?
You should be grateful that our gas at the pumps is so cheap now.
Notice how it has plummeted lately? In the price of a gallon of gas,
49% is the cost of crude. The rest is refining, distribution, oil
company profit, and taxes. So with all of our tankers filling up with
free crude in Iraq, we do not have to buy in Saudi Arabia, which is a
lot less work for them.
Do you understand any of this? If you want to discuss international
affairs you need some education.
Doug Chandler
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: The View From Crawford |
13 Aug 2005 04:11:17 AM |
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DougC wrote:
Jeffrey Turner wrote:
You mean you can't leave until all the oil has been removed?
Do you mean all that free oil that the US has been stealing from Iraq?
You should be grateful that our gas at the pumps is so cheap now.
Notice how it has plummeted lately? In the price of a gallon of gas,
49% is the cost of crude. The rest is refining, distribution, oil
company profit, and taxes. So with all of our tankers filling up with
free crude in Iraq, we do not have to buy in Saudi Arabia, which is a
lot less work for them.
But it isn't about Saudi Arabia. It's about showing the Europeans and
the Chinese who's the boss in the Middle East.
So what happened to the neocon fascist dream of cheap oil by stealing
Iraqi oil?
Geneva convention
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/9d0380a8f857a17b
Hague regulations
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/76e2f440aa42b2ff
Do you understand any of this? If you want to discuss international
affairs you need some education.
You certainly need an education.
Doug Chandler
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: OT: The View From Crawford |
12 Aug 2005 09:34:18 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:06:56 -0400, Jeffrey Turner
<jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
DougC wrote:
maff wrote:
The Bush administration's insistence that the economy is getting better
all the time only intensifies the anxiety that people feel.
That is why I don't read the business section of the paper any more.
All that good news and indicators of a strong economy brings on the
jitters.
Oh, yeah, halleluljah the median weeks unemployed is back down
to 9.0.
Oh, yeah, you're a fucking idiot.
Median Weeks Unemployed (SA)
7/2004 8
7/2005 9.0
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t09.htm
Let's compare that to the employment situation during Clinton's year
shall we?
Median Weeks Unemployed (SA)
7/1998 6.7
7/1999 5.8
7/2000 6.0
I guess unemployment must be "in its last throes"!
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1846 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Paul J Gans" |
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12 Aug 2005 09:15:50 PM |
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In talk.origins DougC <prigator@aol.com> wrote:
maff wrote:
The Bush administration's insistence that the economy is getting better
all the time only intensifies the anxiety that people feel.
That is why I don't read the business section of the paper any more.
All that good news and indicators of a strong economy brings on the
jitters.
Lessons for an Exit Strategy
There have been conflicting reports about the timing of American troop
withdrawals from Iraq.
Yes, we need to nail that down and publish a clear timetable. How do
you expect the terrorists and the Al Qaida network to make their plans?
Don't they know there's a US election in 2006?
Any idjit knows the withdrawal strategy in broad outline.
----- Paul J. Gans
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| User: "" |
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13 Aug 2005 08:43:11 AM |
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Paul J Gans wrote:
In talk.origins DougC <prigator@aol.com> wrote:
maff wrote:
The Bush administration's insistence that the economy is getting better
all the time only intensifies the anxiety that people feel.
That is why I don't read the business section of the paper any more.
All that good news and indicators of a strong economy brings on the
jitters.
Lessons for an Exit Strategy
There have been conflicting reports about the timing of American troop
withdrawals from Iraq.
Yes, we need to nail that down and publish a clear timetable. How do
you expect the terrorists and the Al Qaida network to make their plans?
Don't they know there's a US election in 2006?
Any idjit knows the withdrawal strategy in broad outline.
----- Paul J. Gans
I must get my eyes checked - I misread that line as:
Any Gidgit knows the withdrawal strategy in a [surf]board outline.
---Jay
BTW, Paul, greetings from the lurker who came to the 2002 DC Howlerfest
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