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26 Mar 2006 03:03:46 PM |
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OT This just sucks!! |
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: OT This just sucks!! |
26 Mar 2006 11:06:34 PM |
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"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Another drug war failure. Would it have ended up this way if drugs were
legal? I don't know, but I do know that it did end up this way when drugs
were illegal. Maybe legalization would make it easier for people to get help
if they need it.
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27 Mar 2006 05:36:43 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:06:34 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Another drug war failure. Would it have ended up this way if drugs were
legal? I don't know, but I do know that it did end up this way when drugs
were illegal. Maybe legalization would make it easier for people to get help
if they need it.
I think she and so many others would have had much better odds if
drugs were legal.
Legalization would take the charisma out of drug use, the criminal
pushers out of the trade, and the lies of the DEA out of our schools
and society in general.
How can I say legalization would take the charisma out? Consider the
school age kids wanting to be "bad". Smoke tobacco? But, to be
really "bad" how about something illegal, getting a lot of glory on TV
and movies, pushers with $100,000.00 cars etc. And more and more kids
know that legal tobacco is more harmful than illegal pot, at least.
And they know from trying it, or being with people who do smoke it.
Not from what the teacher or the guest cop says. And you wonder why
they have a problem understanding things at this tender age?
If drugs had only the same attraction of a soft drink, a different
blend of coffee, a few beers, some wine or a few cocktails, we'd be
fine. Of course, they'd have to be legal to do this.
And I think parents might have an easier time talking to their kids,
provided they actually live up to the qualification of being a real
parent. (that can't be changed by law)
Sunyata
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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26 Mar 2006 04:51:54 PM |
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"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Did you know her? I have lots of clients with similar stories.
Some get into rehab, get job training and housing and make
it. Others, with the same help, don't. But, you can't give up
due to the ones that do make it and stay clean.
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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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27 Mar 2006 10:50:10 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Did you know her? I have lots of clients with similar stories.
Some get into rehab, get job training and housing and make
it. Others, with the same help, don't. But, you can't give up
due to the ones that do make it and stay clean.
And holy *****, she was only 39 when she died, but looks like 50! :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "atheist@home" |
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28 Mar 2006 01:43:03 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:50:10 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:xLWdnbYU_YCdhrrZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Did you know her? I have lots of clients with similar stories.
Some get into rehab, get job training and housing and make
it. Others, with the same help, don't. But, you can't give up
due to the ones that do make it and stay clean.
And holy *****, she was only 39 when she died, but looks like 50! :(
You know what?
Sometimes I wish I was God.
Or better yet the ultimate Grandpa.
I could have sat her upon my knee and said "Ladybug...these things you
are being told are lies.
'You are loved...Loved by people who really care about you.."
I would have wrapped my arms around her and done anything necessary to
protect her.
But here I sit....useless and helpless.
The deed is done and she is gone.
And she never knew that we would be affected in the way that we are.
That most of us knowing what was in store for her would have embraced
her and taken her in.
There is something wrong in the way that we so often see one another.
Something terribly, terribly wrong about it :-(
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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28 Mar 2006 03:58:04 AM |
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"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ihoh22pdh9abipr9al2o3g1u31qr009sml@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:50:10 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:xLWdnbYU_YCdhrrZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Did you know her? I have lots of clients with similar stories.
Some get into rehab, get job training and housing and make
it. Others, with the same help, don't. But, you can't give up
due to the ones that do make it and stay clean.
And holy *****, she was only 39 when she died, but looks like 50! :(
You know what?
Sometimes I wish I was God.
Or better yet the ultimate Grandpa.
I could have sat her upon my knee and said "Ladybug...these things you
are being told are lies.
'You are loved...Loved by people who really care about you.."
I would have wrapped my arms around her and done anything necessary to
protect her.
But here I sit....useless and helpless.
The deed is done and she is gone.
And she never knew that we would be affected in the way that we are.
That most of us knowing what was in store for her would have embraced
her and taken her in.
There is something wrong in the way that we so often see one another.
Something terribly, terribly wrong about it :-(
Did you know this person?
Because, I generally don't have much sympathy for junkies.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Siobhan Burke" |
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28 Mar 2006 10:18:57 AM |
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In article <48sflfFlpcvcU1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ihoh22pdh9abipr9al2o3g1u31qr009sml@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:50:10 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:xLWdnbYU_YCdhrrZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Did you know her? I have lots of clients with similar stories.
Some get into rehab, get job training and housing and make
it. Others, with the same help, don't. But, you can't give up
due to the ones that do make it and stay clean.
And holy *****, she was only 39 when she died, but looks like 50! :(
You know what?
Sometimes I wish I was God.
Or better yet the ultimate Grandpa.
I could have sat her upon my knee and said "Ladybug...these things you
are being told are lies.
'You are loved...Loved by people who really care about you.."
I would have wrapped my arms around her and done anything necessary to
protect her.
But here I sit....useless and helpless.
The deed is done and she is gone.
And she never knew that we would be affected in the way that we are.
That most of us knowing what was in store for her would have embraced
her and taken her in.
There is something wrong in the way that we so often see one another.
Something terribly, terribly wrong about it :-(
Did you know this person?
Because, I generally don't have much sympathy for junkies.
That's refreshing. Maine must have more methadone clinics per
capita than any other state in the union. The junkies from all
over come here for the handouts. When we lived in one of the
poorer sections, while we were saving to buy a house, the junkie
across the street was getting her apartment paid for, food
stamps, and then was flogging the methadone on the street to buy
heroin. Charming.
--
Siobhan - a.a. #2201
hellflower@earthlink.alMayne.net (Now a real address, if you ice
the alMayne.)
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the
precipitate.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: OT This just sucks!! |
28 Mar 2006 11:37:22 AM |
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"Siobhan Burke" <hellflower@earthlink.alMayne.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e932bea8161680c9896fb@news.east.earthlink.net...
In article <48sflfFlpcvcU1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ihoh22pdh9abipr9al2o3g1u31qr009sml@4ax.com...
snip
You know what?
Sometimes I wish I was God.
Or better yet the ultimate Grandpa.
I could have sat her upon my knee and said "Ladybug...these things you
are being told are lies.
'You are loved...Loved by people who really care about you.."
I would have wrapped my arms around her and done anything necessary to
protect her.
But here I sit....useless and helpless.
The deed is done and she is gone.
And she never knew that we would be affected in the way that we are.
That most of us knowing what was in store for her would have embraced
her and taken her in.
There is something wrong in the way that we so often see one another.
Something terribly, terribly wrong about it :-(
Did you know this person?
Because, I generally don't have much sympathy for junkies.
That's refreshing. Maine must have more methadone clinics per
capita than any other state in the union.
Really! Wow, I thought you were going to hand my head to me for a sec. One
of the main reasons I feel this way is that I've had my own struggles with
substance abuse. Okay, not with smack, but I had a hefty coke habit in the
80s - something I managed to quit on my own.
The junkies from all
over come here for the handouts. When we lived in one of the
poorer sections, while we were saving to buy a house, the junkie
across the street was getting her apartment paid for, food
stamps, and then was flogging the methadone on the street to buy
heroin. Charming.
Yikes, that's downright nauseating :(
Reminds me of one time I was at the grocery store and there was a man and a
woman in front me, dressed to f'ing kill, paying with food stamps. I wanted
to vomit :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Siobhan Burke" |
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30 Mar 2006 05:11:04 AM |
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In article <48taecFlneudU1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"Siobhan Burke" <hellflower@earthlink.alMayne.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e932bea8161680c9896fb@news.east.earthlink.net...
In article <48sflfFlpcvcU1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ihoh22pdh9abipr9al2o3g1u31qr009sml@4ax.com...
snip
You know what?
Sometimes I wish I was God.
Or better yet the ultimate Grandpa.
I could have sat her upon my knee and said "Ladybug...these things you
are being told are lies.
'You are loved...Loved by people who really care about you.."
I would have wrapped my arms around her and done anything necessary to
protect her.
But here I sit....useless and helpless.
The deed is done and she is gone.
And she never knew that we would be affected in the way that we are.
That most of us knowing what was in store for her would have embraced
her and taken her in.
There is something wrong in the way that we so often see one another.
Something terribly, terribly wrong about it :-(
Did you know this person?
Because, I generally don't have much sympathy for junkies.
That's refreshing. Maine must have more methadone clinics per
capita than any other state in the union.
Really! Wow, I thought you were going to hand my head to me for a sec.
Nah, or only to be helpful if you've lost it. :)
One of the main reasons I feel this way is that I've had my own struggles with
substance abuse. Okay, not with smack, but I had a hefty coke habit in the
80s - something I managed to quit on my own.
I found myself going down the uppers/downers road in the early
70s, and had to ask myself some hard questions. It wasn't easy,
but I made that U-turn. Never tried the hard stuff.
The junkies from all
over come here for the handouts. When we lived in one of the
poorer sections, while we were saving to buy a house, the junkie
across the street was getting her apartment paid for, food
stamps, and then was flogging the methadone on the street to buy
heroin. Charming.
Yikes, that's downright nauseating :(
Reminds me of one time I was at the grocery store and there was a man and a
woman in front me, dressed to f'ing kill, paying with food stamps. I wanted
to vomit :P
Time and again, while waiting to haul my groceries home on the
bus, I've seen people that have just paid with food stamps climb
into a taxi to go home. Once it was a limo-cab. Talk about
being gobsmacked!
--
Siobhan - a.a. #2201
hellflower@earthlink.alMayne.net (Now a real address, if you ice
the alMayne.)
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the
precipitate.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: OT This just sucks!! |
30 Mar 2006 01:59:12 PM |
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"Siobhan Burke" <hellflower@earthlink.alMayne.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e9586b9e7aee6c989703@news.east.earthlink.net...
In article <48taecFlneudU1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"Siobhan Burke" <hellflower@earthlink.alMayne.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e932bea8161680c9896fb@news.east.earthlink.net...
In article <48sflfFlpcvcU1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
snip
Because, I generally don't have much sympathy for junkies.
That's refreshing. Maine must have more methadone clinics per
capita than any other state in the union.
Really! Wow, I thought you were going to hand my head to me for a sec.
Nah, or only to be helpful if you've lost it. :)
Kewl ;)
One of the main reasons I feel this way is that I've had my own struggles
with
substance abuse. Okay, not with smack, but I had a hefty coke habit in
the
80s - something I managed to quit on my own.
I found myself going down the uppers/downers road in the early
70s, and had to ask myself some hard questions. It wasn't easy,
but I made that U-turn. Never tried the hard stuff.
I did the usual for the 70s - Pot, schrooms, a little microdot, nothing too
drastic. The worst was the coke. I sure got skinny, but it pretty much
nearly killed me. Quitting was relatively easy.
The junkies from all
over come here for the handouts. When we lived in one of the
poorer sections, while we were saving to buy a house, the junkie
across the street was getting her apartment paid for, food
stamps, and then was flogging the methadone on the street to buy
heroin. Charming.
Yikes, that's downright nauseating :(
Reminds me of one time I was at the grocery store and there was a man and
a
woman in front me, dressed to f'ing kill, paying with food stamps. I
wanted
to vomit :P
Time and again, while waiting to haul my groceries home on the
bus, I've seen people that have just paid with food stamps climb
into a taxi to go home. Once it was a limo-cab. Talk about
being gobsmacked!
Damn! :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "" |
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31 Mar 2006 04:03:45 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:58:04 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:ihoh22pdh9abipr9al2o3g1u31qr009sml@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:50:10 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:xLWdnbYU_YCdhrrZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Did you know her? I have lots of clients with similar stories.
Some get into rehab, get job training and housing and make
it. Others, with the same help, don't. But, you can't give up
due to the ones that do make it and stay clean.
And holy *****, she was only 39 when she died, but looks like 50! :(
You know what?
Sometimes I wish I was God.
Or better yet the ultimate Grandpa.
I could have sat her upon my knee and said "Ladybug...these things you
are being told are lies.
'You are loved...Loved by people who really care about you.."
I would have wrapped my arms around her and done anything necessary to
protect her.
But here I sit....useless and helpless.
The deed is done and she is gone.
And she never knew that we would be affected in the way that we are.
That most of us knowing what was in store for her would have embraced
her and taken her in.
There is something wrong in the way that we so often see one another.
Something terribly, terribly wrong about it :-(
Did you know this person?
Because, I generally don't have much sympathy for junkies.
I didn't know her but I have known a lot of people who got in when
they were young and "invincible" and had it ruin their lives.
Same with booze which I was a slave to for a lot of years.
My first thought, feeling really, was that I would have tried to help
her but then the reality set in and I realized that there would have
been nothing I could have done.
The story just triggered a lot of memories about other people I have
known.
Damn waste.
atheist@home#1554
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26 Mar 2006 05:38:41 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:51:54 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com...
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
Did you know her? I have lots of clients with similar stories.
Some get into rehab, get job training and housing and make
it. Others, with the same help, don't. But, you can't give up
due to the ones that do make it and stay clean.
I didn't know her but have known a lot like her.
Way too many as a matter of fact.
It's such a total waste.
How do you stay sane dealing with it?
Ever want to just chuck it and move off to an island somewhere?
Or do the times you succeed make it worthwhile?
Stupid question.
Of course they do.
You have my admiration for hanging in there :-)
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Mar 2006 12:47:43 AM |
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In article <l37e225d5np0284qu3pju35ih05hd8pvv6@4ax.com>,
"atheist@home" <atheist@home.com> wrote:
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&fe
ed=rss.news
That is sad. What a waste. :-(
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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29 Mar 2006 12:11:44 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:03:46 GMT, "atheist@home" <atheist@home.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Bought into the damned lie.
"I can handle it."
Damn! :-(
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6S91.DTL&feed=rss.news
That it does, royally!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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