On 25 Jul 2006 11:58:41 -0700, "Muppet Hi-Fi" <muppet.hifi@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On 25 Jul 2006 12:37:11 -0500, "Fred Liken"
<nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote:

"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On 25 Jul 2006 11:23:03 -0500, "Fred Liken"
<nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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"A new Rasmussen Reports poll shows Ned Lamont (D) beating Sen.
Joe Lieberman (D-CT) in the Democratic primary, 51% to 41%."

"Here's the stunning finding: In the general election, Lieberman
and Lamont are tied with 40% with Alan Schlesinger (R) trailing
behind with 13%."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/07/22/in_connecticut_poll_shows_lamont_ahead_by_10.html

Wonder if this means the Democrats will retake the Democratic
party?

Um, how is kicking out one of the last real Democrats retaking the
party? You're a confused soul if you think the Democrats haven't
been run out of power by the Socialists among them.

What "socialists"?

Um... what the heck are you trying to say? Are you suggesting that
the Democrats haven't been hijacked by Socialists?

You can probably count the number of socialists on the fingers of your
left foot.

Well, it depends on what one means by "socialists".

A notable number of people are under the impression it means "anyone to
the left of Rush Limbaugh". Others contend that it relates to government
programs - ie, health care and prescription drug benefits. Of course,
when prescription drug benefits are passede by a GOP Congress and signed
into law by a GOP President, then for some unexplained reason, they
magically are not socialism. I've certainly

I don't know why. These are universal in Europe, even by right wing
governments.

heard that the National Park Service is socialism personified, though
when you get to these extremes you really have to be an ardent
libertarian to hold any kind of logical consistency. If one is thinking
of those who advocate the private ownership of property, then you have to
look real hard to find a socialist at any significant level of power in
the United States.

During my first visit to the USA in the 1980s, before promotion to HQ (and
subsequent green card) there was a letter in the San Jose Mercury
complaining that painting double yellow lines down the centre of a winding
mountain road, was socialism.

Harry F. Leopold wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:10:32 -0500, Christopher A. Lee wrote
(in article <5jncc258tt19clemo4tks0rp2cnstru96e@4ax.com>):

On 25 Jul 2006 13:04:03 -0500, "Fred Liken"
<nothanks@toocoolforschool.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:a6KdndhcSuh1zlvZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Fred Liken in episode

Wonder if this means the Democrats will retake the Democratic party?

Um, how is kicking out one of the last real Democrats retaking the
party?

Lieberman? The man's a Republican.

No, he's the last of the real Democrats.

Why he doesn't just switch parties is beyond me.

Honestly, I don't know. It's obvious the Democrats have so isolated
themselves from any chance of getting a swing vote by their polarization
of
issues and hard line leftist pandering views that they're hardly a place
for
a real Democrat now.

The "hard left" is practically non-existant in the USA. The democrats
would be considered right wing in most other countries.

Barry Goldwater would be considered a left-winger these days in any party.

"I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the *****"
- Barry Goldwater

Fred Stone wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:Id6dnavhAPkbGFvZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@megapath.net:

Previously, on alt.atheism, Fred Liken in episode
<44c65cc8$0$988$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>...

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
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<...>

Why he doesn't just switch parties is beyond me.

Honestly, I don't know. It's obvious the Democrats have so
isolated themselves from any chance of getting a swing vote by
their polarization of issues and hard line leftist pandering views
that they're hardly a place for a real Democrat now.

Why is a "real Democrat" one that agrees with Bush on everything?

Did Lieberman agree with Bush on *everything*?

Before the Iraq war, Lieberman was very pro religion,
he was for RFPA and just about every other pro religion
issue you could think of. True he was liberal on social
issues, but conservative, (sorry about that Fred) on
religious issues.

From
http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/elec16.htm

Lieberman, an Orthodox Jew, has provided Democrats with a new
political weapon in their effort to "take back god" and seize the
rhetorical high ground from Republicans who have, until now, appeared
to have a monopoly on the issue of religion and values. The
Connecticut Senator is part of the Empower America group which
includes virtuecrats like former drug czar William Bennett and
anti-rap crusader C. Delores Tucker. He has called for "charitable
choice" programs and partnerships between government and religious
groups in the administration of social services, and even supports a
"moment of silence" in public schools, though he stops short of
endorsing a sectarian prayer. Lieberman has also joined Republicans
and Christian conservatives in denouncing what he says is gratuitous
sex, violence and profanity in the mass media.

In his recent book, "In Praise of Public Life," Lieberman suggested
that religion is a way of reconstructing "what has come to feel like a
crumbling moral framework in the life of our nation." Lieberman's
Detroit sermon not only invoked a hard religious edge, but at times
even bordered on excluding the tens of millions of Americans who
profess no religious faith. "John Adams, second president of the
United States, wrote that our Constitution was made only for a moral
and religious people," said Lieberman. "George Washington warned us
never to indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained
without religion."

[...] said Lieberman. "George Washington warned us never to indulge the
supposition that morality can be maintained without religion."

Previously, on alt.atheism, wcb in episode
<12cduotav1bbu3b@corp.supernews.com>...

JTEM wrote:

It's funny, but I can understand people hating Lieberman just for
sticking with the war.

Nobody "hates" him, they are just tired of him. Many Democrats are tired
of Democrats easily fooled.

He has been there too long.

If anybody is going to hate him, it should be for that arrogant sense of
entitlement. It's as if he's offended at the idea he has to bother with an
election...

--
Mark K. Bilbo

JTEM wrote:

It's funny, but I can understand people hating Lieberman
just for sticking with the war.

Nobody "hates" him, they are just tired of him.
Many Democrats are tired of Democrats easily fooled.

JTEM wrote:

It's funny, but I can understand people hating Lieberman
just for sticking with the war.

Nobody "hates" him, they are just tired of him.
Many Democrats are tired of Democrats easily fooled.

He has been there too long.