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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "maff"
Date: 28 Jun 2005 04:19:54 PM
Object: OT: To Catch a Thief
To Catch a Thief
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/opinion/28kristof.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8602
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
We need to think creatively and systematically about how to reduce
crime, rather than just grunting about the need for more prisons.
The New McCarthyism
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/27/AR2005062701317.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6588
By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Tuesday, June 28, 2005; Page A15
In the 1950s the right wing attacked liberals as being communists. In
2005 Karl Rove has attacked liberals as being therapists. Thus is born
a kinder and gentler form of McCarthyism.
The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd
and thread
The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT: To Catch a Thief 28 Jun 2005 05:11:32 PM
To Catch a Thief
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/opinion/28kristof.html
(end quote)
I worked for a home alarm system company for a couple of years. Apart
from specialty "panic buttons" for an extra charge, the standard
response was get an alarm, phone the house asking for a code word, and
only dispatch cops when the code word wasn't provided. This to cut down
on user-caused false alarms of all types, from forgetting the window is
on the system to the classic "what does this button do?"
By this method, the company was able to cut false dispatches of cops
down to 90 to 95 percent. And darn proud of it. Rightly so; small local
alarm companies, as opposed to the national chains, were at more like
99% false alarms.
That's what alarm license fees are for, to cover all those false
dispatches and to provide a means to punish users who generate
especially large numbers of false alarms. So I don't think the specific
idea of no-fee-for-silent-alarms is going to fly. I agree with the
general principle of trying to respond to crime intelligently, but that
example is seriously flawed.
And a final word: If you have an indoor pet and the salesman tells you
that a motion detector can be adjusted to ignore it, throw him out of
your house. If the pet in question is a cat rather than a dog, make
sure he bounces.
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User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: OT: To Catch a Thief 28 Jun 2005 05:36:40 PM
wrote:

And a final word: If you have an indoor pet and the salesman tells you
that a motion detector can be adjusted to ignore it, throw him out of
your house. If the pet in question is a cat rather than a dog, make
sure he bounces.

<Look of wide-eyed innocence> Are you saying <GASP> that cats can
easily trigger alarm systems?
Anyone who says that alarm systems can be "set" to be cat-safe
*deserves* to be bounced. On concrete.
I have one who just *loves* pushing buttons - TV remote, telephone, it
doesn't matter. Just put a button in my house, and he'll push it. I
can just imagine what he'd do with an alarm system to play with. ;->
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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User: "Lt. Kizhe Catson"

Title: Re: OT: To Catch a Thief 28 Jun 2005 05:42:35 PM
wrote:

To Catch a Thief
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/opinion/28kristof.html

(end quote)

I worked for a home alarm system company for a couple of years. Apart
from specialty "panic buttons" for an extra charge, the standard
response was get an alarm, phone the house asking for a code word, and
only dispatch cops when the code word wasn't provided. This to cut down
on user-caused false alarms of all types, from forgetting the window is
on the system to the classic "what does this button do?"

By this method, the company was able to cut false dispatches of cops
down to 90 to 95 percent. And darn proud of it. Rightly so; small local
alarm companies, as opposed to the national chains, were at more like
99% false alarms.

That's what alarm license fees are for, to cover all those false
dispatches and to provide a means to punish users who generate
especially large numbers of false alarms. So I don't think the specific
idea of no-fee-for-silent-alarms is going to fly. I agree with the
general principle of trying to respond to crime intelligently, but that
example is seriously flawed.

Around here, the cops just give you a $70 ticket if they have to respond
to a false alarm.

And a final word: If you have an indoor pet and the salesman tells you
that a motion detector can be adjusted to ignore it, throw him out of
your house. If the pet in question is a cat rather than a dog, make
sure he bounces.

Yep (so far only one false alarm in a year, but I bet it was the cat
running around on top of the piano that did it.....)
-- Kizhe
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User: "Marvin"

Title: Re: OT: To Catch a Thief 28 Jun 2005 06:09:24 PM
Kizhe said:

Yep (so far only one false alarm in a year, but I bet it was the cat
running around on top of the piano that did it.....)

Kizhe--you have a kitten on the keys who plays ragtime?
Marvin
Marvin Sebourn
osugeography@aol.com
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User: "Theo Bromine"

Title: Re: OT: To Catch a Thief 03 Jul 2005 07:53:55 PM
"Marvin" <osugeography@aol.com> wrote in <1120000164.396908.289310
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

Kizhe Catson said:

Yep (so far only one false alarm in a year, but I bet it was the cat
running around on top of the piano that did it.....)


Kizhe--you have a kitten on the keys who plays ragtime?

Kizhe *is* the kitten on the keys - take a look at his last name...
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