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"Neil Kelsey" |
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08 Nov 2006 12:30:13 PM |
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OT: To my US Friends |
Can someone (an atheist, because I want this to make sense) PLEASE
explain, REALLY SLOWLY, how the hell your political system works? I've
tried for years to understand it, but I need someone to give me a guide
for dummies on this one.
And you might have to tolerate a few (dozen) stupid questions.
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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08 Nov 2006 01:28:11 PM |
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Can someone (an atheist, because I want this to make sense) PLEASE
explain, REALLY SLOWLY, how the hell your political system works?
It doesn't work most of the time. All the politicians form a circle and
pass around a hot potato and a large wad of money. Music is played by a
pipers called a lobbyists. Whenever they stop playing the money and potato
change direction and the pipers play again. That's it!
I've
tried for years to understand it, but I need someone to give me a guide
for dummies on this one.
And you might have to tolerate a few (dozen) stupid questions.
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| User: "johac" |
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09 Nov 2006 01:40:47 AM |
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In article <1163010613.092825.317600@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
Can someone (an atheist, because I want this to make sense) PLEASE
explain, REALLY SLOWLY, how the hell your political system works? I've
tried for years to understand it, but I need someone to give me a guide
for dummies on this one.
And you might have to tolerate a few (dozen) stupid questions.
I see that you have already received a lot of information here, but the
government has a web site where you can find a lot more information:
http://www.firstgov.gov/
Look under the 'Reference and General Government' section.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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08 Nov 2006 05:00:53 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can someone (an atheist, because I want this to make sense) PLEASE
explain, REALLY SLOWLY, how the hell your political system works? I've
tried for years to understand it, but I need someone to give me a guide
for dummies on this one.
The people are allowed to vote for a president who acts as little more
than a figurehead and a legislative assembly as well. The real power
lies with an oligarchy of reactionary mullahs, who determine who the
acceptable candidates are and assure that the ideological spectrum runs
the gamut from A to B. Elections are thus little more than grand
farces with the masses validating the mullahs' choices.
Anyway, that's the United States. Would you like to know about Iran
now?
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08 Nov 2006 12:55:37 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can someone (an atheist, because I want this to make sense) PLEASE
explain, REALLY SLOWLY, how the hell your political system works? I've
tried for years to understand it, but I need someone to give me a guide
for dummies on this one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States
gives an outline of how the government works.
The way our political system works is: who has the $$$$....makes the
laws.
If you have some specific questions, that would probably be a better
place to start.
Jim
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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08 Nov 2006 01:08:20 PM |
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wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can someone (an atheist, because I want this to make sense) PLEASE
explain, REALLY SLOWLY, how the hell your political system works? I've
tried for years to understand it, but I need someone to give me a guide
for dummies on this one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States
gives an outline of how the government works.
The way our political system works is: who has the $$$$....makes the
laws.
If you have some specific questions, that would probably be a better
place to start.
Jim
Thanks, I should have thought of that. Okay, here's a question.
Senators and Congressman represent the Senate and the House of
Representatives at a federal level, correct? Do Governors run the
individual states? What interaction is there between Governors and
Federal representatives. I assume Governors are either Republican or
Democrat, same as federal politicians?
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| User: "" |
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08 Nov 2006 01:14:02 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Senators and Congressman represent the Senate and the House of
Representatives at a federal level, correct? Do Governors run the
individual states? What interaction is there between Governors and
Federal representatives. I assume Governors are either Republican or
Democrat, same as federal politicians?
The federal government has Senators, Representatives, and the
President.
Each of the 50 states has it's own Governor, and some type of
legislative body, most are modeled after the US Congress, having a
state Senate and a state House. The state governments are independent
of the federal government....mostly. Federal money is distributed to
state and local governments in many ways, but the "power systems" are
separate.
The Republican and Democratic parties are present in most government
bodies, at the federal, state, and even local level (there are
mayors/city managers and city councils in most cities).
Jim
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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08 Nov 2006 01:23:29 PM |
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wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Senators and Congressman represent the Senate and the House of
Representatives at a federal level, correct? Do Governors run the
individual states? What interaction is there between Governors and
Federal representatives. I assume Governors are either Republican or
Democrat, same as federal politicians?
The federal government has Senators, Representatives, and the
President.
Each of the 50 states has it's own Governor, and some type of
legislative body, most are modeled after the US Congress, having a
state Senate and a state House.
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
(realizing that's a straight line, but I'm serious)?
The state governments are independent
of the federal government....mostly. Federal money is distributed to
state and local governments in many ways, but the "power systems" are
separate.
The Republican and Democratic parties are present in most government
bodies, at the federal, state, and even local level (there are
mayors/city managers and city councils in most cities).
Jim
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08 Nov 2006 01:43:53 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
(realizing that's a straight line, but I'm serious)?
glad to help!
The state legislators are called....by whatever name their legislative
body goes by. In Arizona, they are State Senators and State
Representatives, but there are Assemblymen, etc in other states.
probably if you wiki the name of the state and "legislature" you could
find out more.
Jim
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08 Nov 2006 01:47:52 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
You've almost gotten it right here. Senator X and Representative Y
are in Washington, and State Senator A and State Representative B are in
the state legislatures. Some of your confusion may be from the fact
that both sets are addressed as Senator and Representative to their
faces and in print, and you have to know the context to figure out where
they work.
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L. Raymond
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08 Nov 2006 03:51:35 PM |
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L. Raymond wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
You've almost gotten it right here. Senator X and Representative Y
are in Washington, and State Senator A and State Representative B are in
the state legislatures. Some of your confusion may be from the fact
that both sets are addressed as Senator and Representative to their
faces and in print, and you have to know the context to figure out where
they work.
The fact that I live right beside Washington state just added to my
confusion. When you mention Washington that's what I automatically
think of first. But thanks, that's exactly been my problem. I didn't
realize that at the state level the politicians had the same titles.
It's as hard to distinguish between them as your currency is.
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| User: "Andres64" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:01:57 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
L. Raymond wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
You've almost gotten it right here. Senator X and Representative Y
are in Washington, and State Senator A and State Representative B are in
the state legislatures. Some of your confusion may be from the fact
that both sets are addressed as Senator and Representative to their
faces and in print, and you have to know the context to figure out where
they work.
The fact that I live right beside Washington state just added to my
confusion. When you mention Washington that's what I automatically
think of first. But thanks, that's exactly been my problem. I didn't
realize that at the state level the politicians had the same titles.
It's as hard to distinguish between them as your currency is.
lol. As a Michigander unlit last week, it was always funny when people
from out of state would get change back from the store and see their
reaction to the Canadian coins.
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| User: "Ghod" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:08:00 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1163023317.264465.265430@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
[snip]
It's as hard to distinguish between them as your currency is.
lol. As a Michigander unlit last week, it was always funny when
people
"unlit"? OH! until.......still, I like it unfixed.
from out of state would get change back from the store and see their
reaction to the Canadian coins.
As an Illinoian, I'm entirely used to finding Canadian coins in my
change. What's amusing, is getting coins from overseas....which I've
done.
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:46:27 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
The fact that I live right beside Washington state just added to my
confusion. When you mention Washington that's what I automatically
think of first.
Online, I generally try to specify DC when I mean the capital since
that's a little clearer. If you're not familiar with it, the District
of Columbia (D.C.) is actually an autonomous plot of land that was set
aside specifically so no state would have the national capital within
its borders.
It's as hard to distinguish between them as your currency is.
They've begun to color the bills so they don't all look alike any
more, which is a shame because I always felt they were pretty
distinguished looking before. They're changing the coins, too, altering
the designs and making them lighter.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:35:16 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
The fact that I live right beside Washington state just added to my
confusion. When you mention Washington that's what I automatically
think of first. But thanks, that's exactly been my problem. I didn't
realize that at the state level the politicians had the same titles.
It's as hard to distinguish between them as your currency is.
The people in my area of the country share the same problem. When
someone tries to tell me I'm from "New York," I tell them, "No, I'm
from Upstate. New York is that festering sewer-pit at the mouth of the
Hudson 400 miles away that takes all our taxes and won't give them back
and creates taxes for us that they don't have to pay." The best way for
Upstate to get out of the economic doldrums it's been in for the last
three decades is to have NYC cut off from the rest of the state and
floated out to sea, so that we can actually pay a fair price for the
electricity that we generate.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, Upstate New York
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Geopolitics
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| User: "magilla" |
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08 Nov 2006 06:28:42 PM |
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Lord Calvert wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
The fact that I live right beside Washington state just added to my
confusion. When you mention Washington that's what I automatically
think of first. But thanks, that's exactly been my problem. I didn't
realize that at the state level the politicians had the same titles.
It's as hard to distinguish between them as your currency is.
The people in my area of the country share the same problem. When
someone tries to tell me I'm from "New York," I tell them, "No, I'm
from Upstate. New York is that festering sewer-pit at the mouth of the
Hudson 400 miles away that takes all our taxes and won't give them back
and creates taxes for us that they don't have to pay." The best way for
Upstate to get out of the economic doldrums it's been in for the last
three decades is to have NYC cut off from the rest of the state and
floated out to sea, so that we can actually pay a fair price for the
electricity that we generate.
If you can leave off the vitriol, as a downstater I would be interested
in what taxes you're talking about. What taxes do you pay, that we
don't? And what is it about the electric rates?
Chris
Rich Goranson
Amherst, Upstate New York
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Geopolitics
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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08 Nov 2006 06:57:52 PM |
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magilla wrote:
Lord Calvert wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
The fact that I live right beside Washington state just added to my
confusion. When you mention Washington that's what I automatically
think of first. But thanks, that's exactly been my problem. I didn't
realize that at the state level the politicians had the same titles.
It's as hard to distinguish between them as your currency is.
The people in my area of the country share the same problem. When
someone tries to tell me I'm from "New York," I tell them, "No, I'm
from Upstate. New York is that festering sewer-pit at the mouth of the
Hudson 400 miles away that takes all our taxes and won't give them back
and creates taxes for us that they don't have to pay." The best way for
Upstate to get out of the economic doldrums it's been in for the last
three decades is to have NYC cut off from the rest of the state and
floated out to sea, so that we can actually pay a fair price for the
electricity that we generate.
If you can leave off the vitriol, as a downstater I would be interested
in what taxes you're talking about. What taxes do you pay, that we
don't? And what is it about the electric rates?
The principal tax is the New York State Thruway tolls. Last week, eight
miles of tolls on I-190 in downtown Buffalo that have been paying for
the maintenance fees for I-84 so that downstaters could ride free, were
finally lifted although the tolls for I-190 on Grand Island are still
in place. Residents have no choice but to pay the tolls as I-190 is the
only road access onto the island as well as commercial traffic going to
and from Canada using I-190 and the 405, directly harming Upstate's
ability to attract international commerce as compared to the Michigan
and Northern NY crossings. 494 miles of the Thruway, entirely within
the Upstate counties, still have tolls in place which were legally
required to be lifted after the final payment of the 40-year bond was
made in 1996. The counter argument often goes that NYC does indeed have
to pay for their bridge and highway access as well. That is true,
however those payments are controlled by downstate concerns. Unlike
NYC, upstate does not control the finances of its major highways. To
their credit, both Spitzer and Faso pledged to eliminate the Thruway
tolls (largely after a judge decided to allow a class-action lawsuit
against the State filed by an upstate lawyer) however it was considered
unlikely that either would actually fulfill their pledges if elected
and that the announcements were politically motivated, particularly
Faso's as the Republicans were in deep, deep trouble in their upstate
core due to their fanatical spending policies during Pataki's Reign of
Terror (Upstate Republicans were ousted in two congressional races and
barely hung on in three others with margins of less than 7500 votes).
Another governmental subisdy is on electrical power generated at the
Lewiston Power Plant, the primary source of hydroelectric power for the
northeastern United States, generated from Niagara Falls. Since the
1970s, the NYC dominated state government in Albany has regulated
electrical prices to favor NYC consumers and businesses over those in
the region where the power is actually generated. Industrial electric
rates are roughly triple upstate than they are downstate, largely
through protectionist leglislation. The lasting effect is that
industries have abandoned upstate in droves because they cannot afford
to operate here because of the high electrical costs and the high
tax-burden imposed by Albany and have either moved downstate, out of
state or out of country or have gone out of business altogether as
Buffalo's largest employer did (Bethlehem Steel). The economic recovery
the country experienced during the 1990s completely bypassed upstate
largely because of these factors. With upstate having limited to no
political power in state government, particularly after the failed
Bragman revolt in 2000 and the followup purge of the last remaining
upstate politicians to defy both the Democrat and Republican's NYC
financial backers, there is virtually no chance for the region to
recover economically nor is there any particular desire for it to do so
by either state political party.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Geopolitics
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| User: "Auntie Lib" |
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08 Nov 2006 05:45:41 PM |
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L. Raymond wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
You've almost gotten it right here. Senator X and Representative Y
are in Washington, and State Senator A and State Representative B are in
the state legislatures.
Now you've got ME confused. Here in California, we don't have "State
Senators" other than the two who represent us in D.C. We have a
Governor (Ahhhnuld!) and a Lt. Gov. and two Senators and 56 (I think)
Representatives and a State House with "State Legislators" (who aren't
usually called "State Representatives" so as not to confuse them with
our Congresscritters who represent us in D.C.)
Senators and Representatives go to Washington; Legislators to
Sacramento. Is it different in other states?
elizabeth
aa#2098
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"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
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09 Nov 2006 08:30:13 AM |
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Auntie Lib wrote:
L. Raymond wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
You've almost gotten it right here. Senator X and Representative Y
are in Washington, and State Senator A and State Representative B are in
the state legislatures.
Now you've got ME confused. Here in California, we don't have "State
Senators" other than the two who represent us in D.C. We have a
Governor (Ahhhnuld!) and a Lt. Gov. and two Senators and 56 (I think)
Representatives and a State House with "State Legislators" (who aren't
usually called "State Representatives" so as not to confuse them with
our Congresscritters who represent us in D.C.)
Senators and Representatives go to Washington; Legislators to
Sacramento. Is it different in other states?
Every state except Nebraska has a bicameral state legislature consisting of a
State House and a State Senate. In some states (Washington and California),
senators and representatives to the Legislature are elected from the same
district, so there is little difference between them. Other states (Oregon, I
believe) have different districts for both state representatives and state
senators, making the distinction much more important.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
Help defend marriage in Washington state!
http://www.wa-doma.org
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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08 Nov 2006 06:50:14 PM |
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Auntie Lib wrote:
Now you've got ME confused.
Yeah, I apologized to Mr. Kelsey in another message. I try to be
careful about pointing out when I'm generalizing, but I wrote while
distracted by an annoying programming problem. There are also
assemblymen as someone else pointed out, and no doubt other terms.
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L. Raymond
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08 Nov 2006 07:53:20 PM |
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On 8 Nov 2006 15:45:41 -0800 "Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...
L. Raymond wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
You've almost gotten it right here. Senator X and Representative Y
are in Washington, and State Senator A and State Representative B are in
the state legislatures.
Now you've got ME confused. Here in California, we don't have "State
Senators" other than the two who represent us in D.C. We have a
Governor (Ahhhnuld!) and a Lt. Gov. and two Senators and 56 (I think)
Representatives and a State House with "State Legislators" (who aren't
usually called "State Representatives" so as not to confuse them with
our Congresscritters who represent us in D.C.)
Senators and Representatives go to Washington; Legislators to
Sacramento. Is it different in other states?
Um, news to the State Senate.
http://www.sen.ca.gov/
We also have the Assembly.
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/defaulttext.asp
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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09 Nov 2006 03:48:42 PM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
Um, news to the State Senate.
Thanks, Doug, for the link. I DID mention I was confused, right? I'm
the most politically-illiterate person you'll ever meet. I've only
gotten as involved as I have the last six years as I've watched Dubya
and his lap-dogs ***** on our Constitution in order to buy a few
religious loonies some relief from their constant fear of "too much
freedom" and "too much free speech" and "liberals" and, oh yeah, nasty
terrorists lurking around every corner.
I'm gonna go study up on the government. Right now. (After I get some
work done and, maybe a bite to eat... ooh! chocolate-dipped
strawberries. And birdies... pretty clouds...)
'scuse me while I procrastinate.
elizabeth
aa#2098
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"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
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08 Nov 2006 07:50:09 PM |
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On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:47:52 -0600 "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I
was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...
Neil Kelsey wrote:
You know what? I think you just cleared up my lingering confusion right
there. What are the state Senators and state House members called
You've almost gotten it right here. Senator X and Representative Y
are in Washington, and State Senator A and State Representative B are in
the state legislatures. Some of your confusion may be from the fact
that both sets are addressed as Senator and Representative to their
faces and in print, and you have to know the context to figure out where
they work.
Here in California We have the State Senate and the Assembly. so I
have a Senator and an Assemblyman.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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08 Nov 2006 01:32:41 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Senators and Congressman represent the Senate and the House of
Representatives at a federal level, correct?
In Washington, each state gets two senators, while the number of
representatives is determined by a state's population. This is so the
smaller states will have equal weight with the big ones in one house.
Right now, I believe there are 435 state representatives and 100
senators.
Do Governors run the individual states?
Yes. State government sort of mirrors the federal, with states having
a governor, a lieutenant governor and a secretary of state.
What interaction is there between Governors and Federal representatives.
It's a matter of cooperation, not boss-employee. The governor can be
considered a co-worker in the field while the senators and
representatives are in the home office.
I assume Governors are either Republican or Democrat, same as
federal politicians?
It's all partisan position. They don't have to be Republicans or
Democrats, but the odds of getting a member of the Green party, or the
Libertarians, or an independent candidate elected is slight. In fact,
pretty much every government position is partisan. Even the judgeships.
There was an ad in Houston telling voters to select only Republican
judges so the nasty liberals wouldn't distort True American Values.
It used to be that city mayors, at least in Texas, weren't partisan
races, but I think that's pretty fallen by the wayside now.
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:08:01 PM |
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L. Raymond wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Senators and Congressman represent the Senate and the House of
Representatives at a federal level, correct?
In Washington, each state gets two senators, while the number of
representatives is determined by a state's population. This is so the
smaller states will have equal weight with the big ones in one house.
Right now, I believe there are 435 state representatives and 100
senators.
Can a state have one Democrat Senator and one Republican Senator in the
Senate? Are they voted for on a ticket or do they run individually?
Same question for Representatives (are they Congressmen?), but I think
the answer is probably that they run individually, since they are voted
for by region, correct?
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| User: "" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:28:57 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can a state have one Democrat Senator and one Republican Senator in the
Senate? Are they voted for on a ticket or do they run individually?
Same question for Representatives (are they Congressmen?), but I think
the answer is probably that they run individually, since they are voted
for by region, correct?
the only people who share a ticket are the President and Vice
President, although I think some states have a lieutenant governor that
might run with the governor candidate?
each congressman runs on his own
Jim
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:41:29 PM |
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wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can a state have one Democrat Senator and one Republican Senator in the
Senate? Are they voted for on a ticket or do they run individually?
Same question for Representatives (are they Congressmen?), but I think
the answer is probably that they run individually, since they are voted
for by region, correct?
the only people who share a ticket are the President and Vice
President, although I think some states have a lieutenant governor that
might run with the governor candidate?
each congressman runs on his own
Thanks. Next question.
The Democrats now control the House and the Senate (at least according
to the latest news report I heard, but the question still stands). The
President can veto any bills they pass, can't he? Is there a limit to
how much he can veto? And does it work the other way (where the other
legislating bodies veto the President), or does the President even have
the power to pass laws? Could a Democrat House and Senate have
prevented Bush from sending the army into Iraq, for example?
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: OT: To my US Friends |
08 Nov 2006 04:58:25 PM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1163025689.295056.206380@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
jforbnospam@selectric.org wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can a state have one Democrat Senator and one Republican Senator in
the Senate? Are they voted for on a ticket or do they run
individually?
Same question for Representatives (are they Congressmen?), but I
think the answer is probably that they run individually, since they
are voted for by region, correct?
the only people who share a ticket are the President and Vice
President, although I think some states have a lieutenant governor
that might run with the governor candidate?
each congressman runs on his own
Thanks. Next question.
The Democrats now control the House and the Senate (at least according
to the latest news report I heard, but the question still stands). The
President can veto any bills they pass, can't he? Is there a limit to
how much he can veto? And does it work the other way (where the other
legislating bodies veto the President), or does the President even
have the power to pass laws? Could a Democrat House and Senate have
prevented Bush from sending the army into Iraq, for example?
The president can veto legislation, but a two-thirds majority can
override his veto.
The president can propose legislation, but so can any legislator.
Congress controls the cash. If they don't vote the money, it doesn't
happen. In the current mess, they voted to give the president the
authority to use military force in Iraq if he saw fit. That was a bad
move.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
The universal cosmic process was not created by any god or man.
-- Heracletus, On Nature
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: OT: To my US Friends |
08 Nov 2006 05:05:54 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1163025689.295056.206380@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
jforbnospam@selectric.org wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can a state have one Democrat Senator and one Republican Senator in
the Senate? Are they voted for on a ticket or do they run
individually?
Same question for Representatives (are they Congressmen?), but I
think the answer is probably that they run individually, since they
are voted for by region, correct?
the only people who share a ticket are the President and Vice
President, although I think some states have a lieutenant governor
that might run with the governor candidate?
each congressman runs on his own
Thanks. Next question.
The Democrats now control the House and the Senate (at least according
to the latest news report I heard, but the question still stands). The
President can veto any bills they pass, can't he? Is there a limit to
how much he can veto? And does it work the other way (where the other
legislating bodies veto the President), or does the President even
have the power to pass laws? Could a Democrat House and Senate have
prevented Bush from sending the army into Iraq, for example?
The president can veto legislation, but a two-thirds majority can
override his veto.
The president can propose legislation, but so can any legislator.
Congress controls the cash.
Huh? Congress controls the cash? Does it always control the cash, is
that the rule? Doesn't that mean the Congress has more power and the
system is imbalanced?
If they don't vote the money, it doesn't
happen. In the current mess, they voted to give the president the
authority to use military force in Iraq if he saw fit. That was a bad
move.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: To my US Friends |
08 Nov 2006 05:43:03 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:05:54 -0800, Neil Kelsey wrote:
Enkidu wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1163025689.295056.206380@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
jforbnospam@selectric.org wrote:
Neil Kelsey wrote:
Can a state have one Democrat Senator and one Republican Senator in
the Senate? Are they voted for on a ticket or do they run
individually?
Same question for Representatives (are they Congressmen?), but I
think the answer is probably that they run individually, since they
are voted for by region, correct?
the only people who share a ticket are the President and Vice
President, although I think some states have a lieutenant governor
that might run with the governor candidate?
each congressman runs on his own
Thanks. Next question.
The Democrats now control the House and the Senate (at least according
to the latest news report I heard, but the question still stands). The
President can veto any bills they pass, can't he? Is there a limit to
how much he can veto? And does it work the other way (where the other
legislating bodies veto the President), or does the President even
have the power to pass laws? Could a Democrat House and Senate have
prevented Bush from sending the army into Iraq, for example?
The president can veto legislation, but a two-thirds majority can
override his veto.
The president can propose legislation, but so can any legislator.
Congress controls the cash.
Huh? Congress controls the cash? Does it always control the cash, is
that the rule? Doesn't that mean the Congress has more power and the
system is imbalanced?
The House of Representatives controls "the cash." All "money" bills must
start in the House. Which is one reason the Republicans were fretting over
losing the House even if they kept the Senate (which they may yet lose).
In our system, Congress was always meant to be the primary seat of power.
The President and Judiciary are checks against its power but the elected,
legislative body is primary. People pay way, way too much attention to the
President these days. The President was never meant to be that powerful.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]
Wait... oil reserves?
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: OT: To my US Friends |
08 Nov 2006 05:49:29 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
The House of Representatives controls "the cash." All "money" bills must
start in the House. Which is one reason the Republicans were fretting over
losing the House even if they kept the Senate (which they may yet lose).
It must be noted that since 2001, the Executive branch has strived to
take greater control of the "power of the purse" by using Executive
Orders to establish bureaucratic programs, in violation of the
Constitution and without the approval of Congress. The so-called
"Faith-Based Charities" program which illegally funnelled millions of
dollars into politically-connected GOP-favored churches is the textbook
example of this.
http://www.whitehouse.org/dof/faith-funding.asp
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Cartography
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