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OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.html
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls
for a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Julian Borger
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=18510aff.0311031142.59afc11a%40posting.google.com
Bush mafia
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Bush%20mafia&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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| User: "duke" |
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08 Apr 2004 06:28:52 PM |
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On 7 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700, (maff) wrote:
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.html
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls
for a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Nah, only 3000 or so bad guys amongst a population of 25 million. They will be
dispensed with shortly.
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
09 Apr 2004 05:34:50 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<fvnb70phei3oas4efemfg7kd146sdt1641@4ax.com>...
On 7 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700, (maff) wrote:
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.html
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls
for a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Nah, only 3000 or so bad guys amongst a population of 25 million. They will be
dispensed with shortly.
That's good. We then can dispense with 30,000 Confederate, Bible Belt
fundamentalist and Klan terrorists.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
09 Apr 2004 09:27:18 PM |
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On 7 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700, (maff), Message ID:
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.html
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the escalating
violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign, after his
worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls for a rethink
of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Thirty American soldiers and 130 Iraqis have been killed since the
weekend in Falluja, where heavy combat continued last night. Unconfirmed
reports said US planes fired rockets yesterday, destroying four houses
and killing 26 Iraqis.
US forces confirmed last night that up to 12 marines had been killed in
Ramadi, 36 miles west of Falluja. Dozens of Iraqis attacked a US marine
position near the governor's palace, a senior US defence official said
from Washington.
Early today, the White House responded to the deaths by declaring that
US resolve was "unshakable". Its spokesman Scott McClellan said: "We
will prevail. The president was told that our troops are performing
well. The president is proud of our troops."
In the southern Iraqi town of Amara, British troops killed 15 Iraqis in
clashes with followers of the radical Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, and
another 15 Iraqis died in fighting with Italian troops in Nassiriya.
Bulgarian and Polish troops also suffered casualties.
Washington insisted yesterday that US commanders would have all the
troops and resources they needed, and Mr Bush signalled once more that
he was prepared to stake his presidency on defeating the insurgents.
"There are thugs and terrorists in Iraq who are trying to shake our
will," the chief White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, told
journalists. "And the president is firmly committed to showing resolve
and strength ... They cannot shake our will."
However, with even Republicans warning of the imminent danger of a civil
war in Iraq, and the administration's handling of the terrorist threat
under increasing scrutiny, the president's image as a wartime leader is
taking a battering.
The news that Tony Blair is flying to the US next week for consultations
has only added to the sense of crisis.
The White House yesterday insisted that the visit to New York and
Washington had been planned weeks ago, but conceded that much of the
agenda would be consumed by Iraq.
Mr Blair will find a president who is increasingly nervous about his
re-election.
Opinion polls show Mr Bush's approval ratings eroding, despite spending
$40m (£22m) on campaign advertising in the past month. A survey by the
Pew Research Centre found only 43% of Americans thought the president
was doing a good job, down four points from last month and 13 points
from January. The poll, taken before the disastrous weekend in Iraq,
showed a majority of the population disapproved of the way Mr Bush had
handled the situation there.
His national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, will defend his record
tomorrow before a public congressional inquiry examining the September
11 attacks, but she will face a sceptical commission which has heard
repeated charges that the Bush White House's preoccupation with Iraq
overshadowed warnings in 2001 of an imminent al-Qaida attack.
The timing of the commission's hearings has proved a windfall for the
Democrats, who have seized on the apparent disarray in the
administration's policy.
John Kerry, the party's presidential candidate, said: "It is a mistake
to set an arbitrary date, and I hope that date has nothing to do with
the elections here in the United States. The test of a turnover of
sovereignty is the stability of Iraq."
Edward Kennedy, his fellow Democratic senator from Massachusetts,
described Iraq as "George Bush's Vietnam". Paul Bremer, the US governor
in Iraq, said: "There is nothing in common with Vietnam." But Republican
senator John McCain said Mr Bush should avoid the mistakes of the
Vietnam war: "We have to tell the American people that we are in this
for the long haul. We cannot say, as we did in Vietnam, that the light
is at the end of the tunnel."
Other members of the president's party, raised the alarm over the
emergence of the Shia militia and general unravelling of security.
Senator Chuck Hagel, told the Washington Post the US was "dangerously
close" to losing control in Iraq.
Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, responded to calls for
reinforcements by saying that the US military presence in Iraq was
unusually high at 135,000.
© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
07 Apr 2004 05:46:23 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.html
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the escalating
violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign, after his worst
political week this year triggered bipartisan calls for a rethink of US
strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to get...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
07 Apr 2004 05:57:27 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.04.07.22.46.22.879836@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.htm
l
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls
for a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town
of Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
The Shi'ites aren't joining up with Al-Sadr's militia. He's got about
six thousand troops, split up all over the place. Al-Sadr himself is
holed up in Najaf, hoping that the US won't go there in force lest we
harm religious sentiment.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to
get...
The newsies don't point cameras at Iraqis who welcome Americans.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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07 Apr 2004 06:33:55 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.04.07.22.46.22.879836@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.htm
l
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls
for a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town
of Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to
get...
Bullets are "flowers." Explosions are "bouquets." When someone runs up to
shove a knife in your belly, it's merely a formality--it really means,
"Welcome, brother! Let's have dinner!"
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Q: Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip?
A: To get to the other...er, um...
[seen on a math jokes site]
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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07 Apr 2004 06:45:27 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:33:55 +0000 in episode
<Xns94C4BDE8364B1askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.04.07.22.46.22.879836@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.htm
l
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls for
a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to get...
Bullets are "flowers." Explosions are "bouquets." When someone runs up to
shove a knife in your belly, it's merely a formality--it really means,
"Welcome, brother! Let's have dinner!"
How will we RSVP all those invites?
(By the way, can anybody explain to me why Bush is on vacation?)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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07 Apr 2004 06:44:44 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.04.07.23.45.26.874078@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:33:55 +0000 in episode
<Xns94C4BDE8364B1askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.04.07.22.46.22.879836@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.h
tm l
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on
president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election
campaign, after his worst political week this year triggered
bipartisan calls for a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town
of Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to
get...
Bullets are "flowers." Explosions are "bouquets." When someone runs
up to shove a knife in your belly, it's merely a formality--it really
means, "Welcome, brother! Let's have dinner!"
How will we RSVP all those invites?
(By the way, can anybody explain to me why Bush is on vacation?)
Heavy thinking, man. Keeping the crayons insode the line wore him out.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Q: Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip?
A: To get to the other...er, um...
[seen on a math jokes site]
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08 Apr 2004 06:54:08 AM |
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 18:45:27 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<y@hoo.com-amikchi> in news message
<pan.2004.04.07.23.45.26.874078@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote:
[-----]
(By the way, can anybody explain to me why Bush is on vacation?)
It's Easter.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
08 Apr 2004 08:02:46 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:54:08 +0000 in episode
<2lfa70ptl8hsmq6gg63vpomi7jvd3j53lh@4ax.com> we saw our hero Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 18:45:27 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> in
news message
<pan.2004.04.07.23.45.26.874078@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote:
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(By the way, can anybody explain to me why Bush is on vacation?)
It's Easter.
Well, let's certainly not let Iraq being in flames interrupt his egg hunt...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Apr 2004 09:33:39 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:54:08 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com>, Message
ID: <2lfa70ptl8hsmq6gg63vpomi7jvd3j53lh@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 18:45:27 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<y@hoo.com-amikchi> in news message
<pan.2004.04.07.23.45.26.874078@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote:
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(By the way, can anybody explain to me why Bush is on vacation?)
It's Easter.
So, he's going to get nailed or will he dissapear down the rabbit hole?
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
09 Apr 2004 09:28:38 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 18:45:27 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi>,
Message ID: <pan.2004.04.07.23.45.26.874078@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:33:55 +0000 in episode
<Xns94C4BDE8364B1askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.04.07.22.46.22.879836@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.htm
l
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls for
a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to get...
Bullets are "flowers." Explosions are "bouquets." When someone runs up to
shove a knife in your belly, it's merely a formality--it really means,
"Welcome, brother! Let's have dinner!"
How will we RSVP all those invites?
(By the way, can anybody explain to me why Bush is on vacation?)
He can't do as much harm.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush |
09 Apr 2004 09:27:55 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 17:46:23 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi>,
Message ID: <pan.2004.04.07.22.46.22.879836@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.html
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the escalating
violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign, after his worst
political week this year triggered bipartisan calls for a rethink of US
strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town of
Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to get...
The administration lied their asses off as is their habit.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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08 Apr 2004 12:03:08 AM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Mark K. Bilbo:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:46:34 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0404070146.52613d19@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Uprising in Iraq could derail Bush
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1187438,00.htm
l
As US forces suffer another bloody day, Republicans turn on president
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday April 7, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush was yesterday struggling to prevent the
escalating violence in Iraq from engulfing his re-election campaign,
after his worst political week this year triggered bipartisan calls
for a rethink of US strategy there.
Fighting spread across the country as the US-led coalition fought a
two-front war against Sunni rebels concentrated in the western town
of Falluja and a radical Shia uprising in south and central Iraq.
Looks like the insurrection is spreading like wildfire.
Wonder what happened to all that "welcoming" we were supposed to
get...
Maybe Randy is right. It is for the greater good. (I'm going to be sick
now...)
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day.
Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.
--Timothy Jones
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