Religions > Atheism > OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community
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20 Sep 2003 04:32:27 AM |
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OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=445128
By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
20 September 2003
George Bush probably owes his presidency to the absentee military
voters who nudged his tally in Florida decisively past Al Gore's. But
now, with Iraq in chaos and the reasons for going to war there mired
in controversy, an increasingly disgruntled military poses perhaps the
gravest immediate threat to his political future, just one year before
the presidential elections.
Andrew Gumbel
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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20 Sep 2003 08:11:41 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 02:32:27 -0700, maff wrote:
White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=445128
By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
20 September 2003
George Bush probably owes his presidency to the absentee military voters
who nudged his tally in Florida decisively past Al Gore's. But now, with
Iraq in chaos and the reasons for going to war there mired in controversy,
an increasingly disgruntled military poses perhaps the gravest immediate
threat to his political future, just one year before the presidential
elections.
Andrew Gumbel
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Andrew%20Gumbel&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&lr=&num=100&as_scoring=d&hl=en
"One big rallying point for the critics is the Pentagon's budget plan,
which proposes cutting $1.8 billion (£1.1bn) from veterans' health
benefits and reducing combat pay from the current $225 a month to $150..."
Ah yes, supporting our troops again Mr. Bush?
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
20 Sep 2003 05:23:58 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:11:41 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
"One big rallying point for the critics is the Pentagon's budget plan,
which proposes cutting $1.8 billion (£1.1bn) from veterans' health
benefits and reducing combat pay from the current $225 a month to $150..."
Ah yes, supporting our troops again Mr. Bush?
Just too stupid to realize that pissing on his own foot leaves his
foot wet.
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Zymurgist # 2
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
20 Sep 2003 10:40:19 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:23:58 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:11:41 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
"One big rallying point for the critics is the Pentagon's budget plan,
which proposes cutting $1.8 billion (£1.1bn) from veterans' health
benefits and reducing combat pay from the current $225 a month to
$150..."
Ah yes, supporting our troops again Mr. Bush?
Just too stupid to realize that pissing on his own foot leaves his foot
wet.
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this time
around...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
20 Sep 2003 09:53:44 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military
vote this time around...
Why wouldn't he? I've yet to see any polls that shows the
deserter & chief loosing ground amongst veterans.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
21 Sep 2003 09:34:45 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:53:44 -0400, JTEM wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this
time around...
Why wouldn't he? I've yet to see any polls that shows the deserter & chief
loosing ground amongst veterans.
Not talking about veterans. I'm talking about the current military and
their families. Which covers a lot of folks.
Remember, one of his big bases were *current military. Part of the Florida
fiasco involved going out of their way to get the military vote in.
Veterans, I don't know. I can't help but note, however, that the period
just after Vietnam saw the US swing to the left. Once those guys get home
(those that get to come home), it could get interesting.
And will they vote for him in the upcoming election? Now that he's
stranded them in a quagmire, won't let them come home, cut their benefits
every chance he got...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "William Klee" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
21 Sep 2003 02:20:50 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.09.21.14.34.45.150805@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:53:44 -0400, JTEM wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this
time around...
Why wouldn't he? I've yet to see any polls that shows the deserter & chief
loosing ground amongst veterans.
Not talking about veterans. I'm talking about the current military and
their families. Which covers a lot of folks.
Remember, one of his big bases were *current military. Part of the Florida
fiasco involved going out of their way to get the military vote in.
Veterans, I don't know. I can't help but note, however, that the period
just after Vietnam saw the US swing to the left. Once those guys get home
(those that get to come home), it could get interesting.
And will they vote for him in the upcoming election? Now that he's
stranded them in a quagmire, won't let them come home, cut their benefits
every chance he got...
Anyone here think that the current administration is going to go to any
effort to make sure that troops stationed over in Iraq get to vote next
year?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
21 Sep 2003 04:08:13 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:20:50 -0500, William Klee wrote:
In article <pan.2003.09.21.14.34.45.150805@eac.org>, Mark K. Bilbo
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:53:44 -0400, JTEM wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com> wrote
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this
time around...
Why wouldn't he? I've yet to see any polls that shows the deserter &
chief loosing ground amongst veterans.
Not talking about veterans. I'm talking about the current military and
their families. Which covers a lot of folks.
Remember, one of his big bases were *current military. Part of the
Florida fiasco involved going out of their way to get the military vote
in.
Veterans, I don't know. I can't help but note, however, that the period
just after Vietnam saw the US swing to the left. Once those guys get
home (those that get to come home), it could get interesting.
And will they vote for him in the upcoming election? Now that he's
stranded them in a quagmire, won't let them come home, cut their
benefits every chance he got...
Anyone here think that the current administration is going to go to any
effort to make sure that troops stationed over in Iraq get to vote next
year?
Oh I'm *sure they'll do everything to accommodate our troops! I mean, they
support them don't they?
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
21 Sep 2003 02:23:47 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:40:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:23:58 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:11:41 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
"One big rallying point for the critics is the Pentagon's budget plan,
which proposes cutting $1.8 billion (£1.1bn) from veterans' health
benefits and reducing combat pay from the current $225 a month to
$150..."
Ah yes, supporting our troops again Mr. Bush?
Just too stupid to realize that pissing on his own foot leaves his foot
wet.
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this time
around...
I'm sure he - or whoever does his thinking - definitely does. After
all, didn't "he" give the military a glorious victory?
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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
21 Sep 2003 09:30:13 AM |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:23:47 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:40:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:23:58 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:11:41 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
"One big rallying point for the critics is the Pentagon's budget plan,
which proposes cutting $1.8 billion (£1.1bn) from veterans' health
benefits and reducing combat pay from the current $225 a month to
$150..."
Ah yes, supporting our troops again Mr. Bush?
Just too stupid to realize that pissing on his own foot leaves his foot
wet.
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this time
around...
I'm sure he - or whoever does his thinking - definitely does. After all,
didn't "he" give the military a glorious victory?
You know, the people in this administration may well be just that stupid...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
21 Sep 2003 09:27:32 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:30:13 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:23:47 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:40:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this time
around...
I'm sure he - or whoever does his thinking - definitely does. After all,
didn't "he" give the military a glorious victory?
You know, the people in this administration may well be just that stupid...
You have doubts?
--
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
21 Sep 2003 10:26:11 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:27:32 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:30:13 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:23:47 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:40:19 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
Wonder if he thinks he'll be able to count on the military vote this time
around...
I'm sure he - or whoever does his thinking - definitely does. After all,
didn't "he" give the military a glorious victory?
You know, the people in this administration may well be just that stupid...
You have doubts?
Well...
Erm...
I think the idea that they're all retarded chimps would give me nightmares...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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22 Sep 2003 08:54:17 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:26:11 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:27:32 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:30:13 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
You know, the people in this administration may well be just that stupid...
You have doubts?
Well...
Erm...
I think the idea that they're all retarded chimps would give me nightmares...
An improvement in intelligence would give you nightmares? You lost me
on that one.
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: White House is ambushed by criticism from America's military community |
22 Sep 2003 09:29:53 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 01:54:17 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:26:11 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:27:32 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:30:13 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
You know, the people in this administration may well be just that stupid...
You have doubts?
Well...
Erm...
I think the idea that they're all retarded chimps would give me nightmares...
An improvement in intelligence would give you nightmares? You lost me
on that one.
No I mean *somebody has to keep Bush away from "the button."
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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