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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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02 May 2006 09:28:05 PM |
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OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the time
she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
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Mark K. Bilbo
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(Took them long enough)
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J3EF62DEC
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."
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"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
02 May 2006 10:30:11 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:SeadnU5vGoKoiMXZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@megapath.net:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the
time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed
_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
Man, you people will believe *anything*.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
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Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
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| User: "Lukas Mariman" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 05:21:31 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97B7EF70459fstone69@81.174.50.80...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:SeadnU5vGoKoiMXZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@megapath.net:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the
time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed
_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
Man, you people will believe *anything*.
Perhaps, but what do you expect when the current US government does its very
best to make us believes *anything*?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 05:19:42 AM |
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"Lukas Mariman" <lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote in
news:4458842c$0$7865$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97B7EF70459fstone69@81.174.50.80...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:SeadnU5vGoKoiMXZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@megapath.net:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at
the time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Out
ed _0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
Man, you people will believe *anything*.
Perhaps, but what do you expect when the current US government does
its very best to make us believes *anything*?
Did you ever consider that you're being played by the opposition too?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
Patch 1.2.5 - http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/patch071803.html
Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
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| User: "Lukas Mariman" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 01:38:27 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97B84A3A15CFDfstone69@66.150.105.47...
"Lukas Mariman" <lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote in
news:4458842c$0$7865$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97B7EF70459fstone69@81.174.50.80...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:SeadnU5vGoKoiMXZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@megapath.net:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at
the time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Out
ed _0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
Man, you people will believe *anything*.
Perhaps, but what do you expect when the current US government does
its very best to make us believes *anything*?
Did you ever consider that you're being played by the opposition too?
Did you ever consider I might BE the opposition? ;-)
Seriously, though, I look at the various media out there and I see scandal
after scandal being uncovered. I was never convinced in the first place,
BTW, by the argumentation the Bush adm. provided for their going to war with
Iraq. Even Afghanistan - what was the purpose? Wasn't it to capture Osama
freaking Laden? So where is he? I seem to remember Bush being asked about
it, and he said something along the lines of it not being important. Not
important - yet the USA invaded a foreign nation over it. Come on!
They are all talk, but they have IMHO screwed up all over. I mean, they even
couldn't handle the Katrina flood. People in New Orleans were left to rot
(literally, in some cases) for what seemed like an eternity. I mean, this is
supposedly the world's resident superpower?
.... I'll end it here. I get all worked up over this the more I think about
it. :-/
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 01:19:29 PM |
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"Lukas Mariman" <lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote in
news:4458f8a4$0$19558$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97B84A3A15CFDfstone69@66.150.105.47...
"Lukas Mariman" <lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote in
news:4458842c$0$7865$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns97B7EF70459fstone69@81.174.50.80...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:SeadnU5vGoKoiMXZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@megapath.net:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at
the time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Out
ed _0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
Man, you people will believe *anything*.
Perhaps, but what do you expect when the current US government does
its very best to make us believes *anything*?
Did you ever consider that you're being played by the opposition too?
Did you ever consider I might BE the opposition? ;-)
Nah, you're just being played.
Seriously, though, I look at the various media out there and I see
scandal after scandal being uncovered. I was never convinced in the
first place, BTW, by the argumentation the Bush adm. provided for
their going to war with Iraq. Even Afghanistan - what was the purpose?
Wasn't it to capture Osama freaking Laden?
Not exactly. It was to remove the Taliban and al Qaeda and to take him
down a peg. Do you know how long it took to get Radko Mladic, one of the
UN's most-wanted bad guys from Kosovo? (trick question, he's still on
the run)
So where is he? I seem to
remember Bush being asked about it, and he said something along the
lines of it not being important. Not important - yet the USA invaded a
foreign nation over it. Come on!
Come on yourself, after his whole operation was knocked into rubble and
he was on the run, yeah, we had higher priorities, like Saddam.
They are all talk, but they have IMHO screwed up all over. I mean,
they even couldn't handle the Katrina flood. People in New Orleans
were left to rot (literally, in some cases) for what seemed like an
eternity. I mean, this is supposedly the world's resident superpower?
Yep, you've been played BIG TIME. The feds actually performed up to the
standards set for them. People were left to rot, but the problem was
that the state and locals failed miserably to prepare *their* part. Then
the media showed up and made a circus of it and the Blame Bush For
Everything game started. It sure *seemed* like an eternity, what with
the newsies hollering "are we there yet" every five minutes, sorta like
they do with Iraq. I'd sure hate to drive cross-country with one of
them.
... I'll end it here. I get all worked up over this the more I think
about it. :-/
That's how you can tell you've been played. Emotional.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
Patch 1.2.5 - http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/patch071803.html
Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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| Title: Re: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
02 May 2006 09:39:19 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:SeadnU5vGoKoiMXZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@megapath.net...
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the time
she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
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Nice to know that the grown ups are in charge, doesn't it?
These assclowns in the administration don't care for a thing except their
own political lives and their wallets. Not that this should be news to
anyone that's been paying attention.....
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Aloha, G-Ride
"Birds fall from the window ledge above mine.
Then they flap their wings at the last second."
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 04:15:56 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the time
she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
But we don't *want* to know what they're up to. It might all be perfectly
innocent, and then we can't nuke them, can we?
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 05:04:21 PM |
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Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:_t-dnQeKtNERgMTZRVnyvw@pipex.net:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the
time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Oute
d
_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
But we don't *want* to know what they're up to. It might all be
perfectly innocent, and then we can't nuke them, can we?
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/1741
You would think the CIA insiders would know better than to leak more
national security information to the media. But looks like another
attempt by the shadow CIA and the Wilsons to play games:
On Chris Matthews’ Hardball Monday evening, just moments ago, MSNBC
correspondent David Shuster confirmed what RAW STORY first reported in
February: that outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on
Iran at the time she was outed.
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According to current and former intelligence officials, Plame
Wilson, who worked on the clandestine side of the CIA in the Directorate
of Operations as a non-official cover (NOC) officer, was part of an
operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass
destruction technology to and from Iran.
I assume these fools will try and claim people in the administration
leaked this information to hurt the Wilsons and put Val at risk. Is this
the canary trap everyone expected with McCarthy? Whoever ‘leaked’ this
pretty damn interesting. The one thing that would get this into the
media is the idiotic claim only Valerie, sitting in Langley, VA, could
analyze the reports coming in. NBC’s David Shuster took the bait!
AND THE SOURCES ALLEGE THAT WHEN MRS. WILSON’S COVER WAS BLOWN, THE
ADMINISTRATION’S ABILITY TO TRACK IRAN’S NUCLEAR AMBITIONS WAS DAMAGED
AS WELL.”
What a joke! Valerie was the only analyst who cold track Iran’s
ambitions? This is the reason I think this was a canary trap. Only a
reporter would be so naive and gullible at the same time! Or are the
VIPerS this dumb? Someone tell me this is just a joke and these people
are not this stupid.
There is no way Valerie was the only person on the planet who could (or
did) review intelligence on Iran! Question is, was it a trap from the
CIA cleaning their house or the VIPerS floating one of their delusional
ideas?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Master of Orion 3 lives!
Patch 1.2.5 - http://moo3.quicksilver.com/official/patch071803.html
Strawberry Mod - http://www.moo3.at/mods/link.php?id=142
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
04 May 2006 08:44:29 PM |
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On Wed, 03 May 2006 22:15:56 +0100, Kevin Anthoney
<kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the time
she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
But we don't *want* to know what they're up to. It might all be perfectly
innocent, and then we can't nuke them, can we?
Bush, the maniac, can and will do so and orgasm over the mushroom cloud.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 04:28:36 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, Kevin Anthoney in episode
<_t-dnQeKtNERgMTZRVnyvw@pipex.net>...
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the
time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
But we don't *want* to know what they're up to. It might all be perfectly
innocent, and then we can't nuke them, can we?
Gosh, that would just ruin Cheney's day...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 07:39:02 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the time
she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
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Mark K. Bilbo
Yes, but imagine what could happen if real intelligence reached the
White House. It would be like one of those matter:anti-matter thingies.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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03 May 2006 08:40:53 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, Nosterill in episode
<1146659942.296113.254210@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>...
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the
time she was outed..."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N3D423C0D
--
Mark K. Bilbo
Yes, but imagine what could happen if real intelligence reached the White
House. It would be like one of those matter:anti-matter thingies.
Oh, man, like that really awful, original Star Trek episode with the two
guys from opposite universes who couldn't ever meet because the universes
would be annihilated (which makes even less sense than a Rummsfeld speech).
So the mirror universe Bush would be a Nobel winning scholar huh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"Corps chief admits to 'design failure'"
(Took them long enough)
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J3EF62DEC
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Why we don't know what Iran is up to... |
03 May 2006 07:37:22 PM |
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On Tue, 02 May 2006 21:28:05 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>
wrote:
"...outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the time
she was outed..."
Actually it was 'rat willie that destroyed the ground based intel in favor of
satellites. We lose.
duke, American-American
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