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Will We One Day Marry Robots?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/will-we-one-da=
y=2Ehtml
15 Oct 2007 10:05 pm
The answer is yes. One blogger predicts:
"Considerable social backlash. Even in Massachusetts."
Sex and marriage with robots? It could happen
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21271545/
Robots soon will become more human-like in appearance, researcher says
By Charles Q. Choi
Special to LiveScience
Updated: 6:05 p.m. ET Oct. 12, 2007
Humans could marry robots within the century. And consummate those
vows.
"My forecast is that around 2050, the state of Massachusetts will be
the first jurisdiction to legalize marriages with robots," artificial
intelligence researcher David Levy at the University of Maastricht in
the Netherlands told LiveScience. Levy recently completed his Ph.D.
work on the subject of human-robot relationships, covering many of the
privileges and practices that generally come with marriage as well as
outside of it.
Will humans marry robots in 50 years?
http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/10/will_humans_marry_robots_in_=
50.php
Category: News
Posted on: October 15, 2007 8:45 AM, by Dave Munger
The idea of a human falling in love with a creation made of steel and
silicon seems rather far-fetched today -- even the most "realistic"
robots seem more creepy than endearing. But people already do form
attachments to their robots. People treat Roombas like pets, and
soldiers form strong bonds with their minesweeping robots.
About self-righteousness and Al Gore
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/about_selfrighteousnes=
s_and_al.php
13 Oct 2007 01:05 am
I am old enough... well, there are many ways to end that sentence, but
for now: I am old enough to remember, from my school years, the
disdainful reaction in my home town to the news that Martin Luther
King had won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964.
The reaction was, of course, racial at its root. This was a majority-
white, minority-Hispanic small town with very few black residents,
which went for Barry Goldwater over Lyndon Johnson in the presidential
election that same fall.
Obama knocks them off their feet
http://www.cbs58.com/index.php?aid=3D651
October 15, 2007 - 04:01:22 PM Democratic presidential hopeful Barack
Obama rallies crowd in Madison, while also calling for paramedics to
attend to three different supporters who fainted during his speech.
MADISON--
"I'm just knocking them off their feet!"
Never before have a candidate's words been so true.
Coulson's House Party for Obama
http://www.wncobama.com/Blog/?p=3D27
October 16th, 2007
THE COULSON'S HOUSE PARTY FOR OBAMA
We're holding this party as a get together of those whom we know care
about our nation and are undoubtedly interested in the upcoming
Presidential Election. Fed up with politics as usual and ready for
change, we (Barbara and Tom) are supporters of Barack Obama and we'll
be talking him up. If you're supporting someone else, we hope you'll
come to share your views and questions. After all, whether you're
selecting a president or going to war, good decisions require good
information.
We North Carolinians have no say in the nomination; it'll all be
settled by the time of our primary. We're spectators in the election,
as well. But there is a way we can materially have an effect on both
processes (aside from making contributions) and we'll also be talking
about that.
Students undertake Obama activism
http://maroon.uchicago.edu/online_edition/news/2007/10/16/students-undertak=
e-obama-activism/
By admin
Tuesday, October 16th, 2007
About two dozen U of C students attended the kickoff meeting for
Students for Barack Obama (SBFO) last Wednesday to rally support for
the senator's presidential campaign.
"We focus on converting the grassroots energy and activism on campus
into forms we can use to progress the campaign, and we want students
to take ownership of the campaign and their political lives," said
second-year Chris Benedik, the communications director for the U of C
chapter of SFBO.
Clinton and Obama in virtual money tie
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6365.html
By: Jeanne Cummings
Oct 16, 2007 01:43 AM EST
The third quarter fundraising race between Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.)
and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) ended in a photo finish just before
midnight Monday.
When the official reports went public on the Federal Election
Commission website, they showed that Clinton raised more money but
Obama eked out his own victory by virtually matching the amount of
cash she has in the bank to spend on the hard-fought primary race.
Obama's wife in London on charm offensive
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=3D/news/2007/10/16/nobama116=
..xml
By Alex Spillius, Sally Peck and David Blair
Last Updated: 2:42am BST 16/10/2007
The wife of the US presidential candidate Barack Obama last night
brought his White House campaign to Britain when she played host at a
fund-raising event in London.
Michelle Obama entertained hundreds of American expatriates willing to
pay handsomely for a taste of the excitement generated by her
husband's drive to become the country's first black president.
Obama reaches out to UW youth
http://badgerherald.com/news/2007/10/16/obama_reaches_out_to.php
by Tom Schalmo
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama visited Madison on
Monday, calling himself the 2008 candidate who can reach out to people
who are looking for a fresh, inspirational leader.
Obama, the junior United States senator from Illinois, spoke for about
45 minutes to more than 4,000 people - many of them University of
Wisconsin students - at Madison's Monona Terrace.
Reich defends Obama on experience
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/reich-defends-o.html
Former Clinton administration Labor Secretary Robert Reich defends
Barack Obama against Bill Clinton's charge that he lacks experience:
"When he ran in 1992, Bill Clinton had been the governor of a small,
rural southern state; as such, he had only limited experience with
national issues and no foreign policy experience to speak of.
Incidentally, at this point in the 2008 presidential election, Hillary
Clinton has served as an elected official in the U.S. Senate for not
quite eight years, and before that a first lady in the White House.
Obama has so far held elective office for almost 12 years, at both
levels of government -- first as an Illinois state senator and then as
a U.S. senator. Before that he was a community organizer among
Chicago's poor, and then a civil rights lawyer -- two experiences that
in my view are critically relevant to anyone seeking to become
president of all Americans."
Barack Obama is not a Muslim
http://shopfortruth.com/2007/10/15/barack-obama-is-not-a-muslim/
October 15th, 2007
A whisper campaign has begun in the form of anonymous emails either
claiming or alluding to the fact that Barack Obama is a Muslim. Which
he is not. He is a Protestant. In fact, an August 2007 poll asked
people to name about Obama's faith. Most people said they didn't know
or didn't care, but the next most common response was Muslim.
Protestant was second at 6 percent.
Obama capable of easing American racial tensions
http://media.www.dailyorange.com/media/storage/paper522/news/2007/10/16/Opi=
nion/Obama.Capable.Of.Easing.American.Racial.Tensions-3033625.shtml
S=2E N. Sangmpam
Issue date: 10/16/07 Section: Opinion
A question was recently asked by some African Americans about Sen.
Barack Obama: Is Obama "black?"
The answer is that he is neither "black" nor "white," but the best
hope for American politics.
Obama seeks votes, volunteers in Wisconsin college town
http://news.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?a=3D=
311737&z=3D16
10/15/2007 11:26:31 PM
McClatchy-Tribune Information Services
MADISON, Wis. -- In a rare break from the early primary states,
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama came to Monday's rally in
Madison with two things in mind: votes and volunteers.
With Wisconsin not voting until the Feb. 19 primary, the message to
those in the student-heavy crowd of 4,000 was they cannot deliver the
first -- their votes -- unless they put in the time now on the second,
by volunteering.
Barack Obama - The Journal Of Blacks In Higher Education Endorses
Obama For President
http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2007/10/barack-obama-journal-of-blacks-in.ht=
ml
The Journal Of Blacks In Higher Education Endorses Obama For
President and in so doing Theodore Cross, representing The Journal,
wrote an article that calls into question Senator Hillary Rodham
Clinton's genuine commitment to African Americans.
If you read it, it's damning of Clinton, for example..
In her campaign to lock up black support, there are no qualms about
playing the race card. Senator Clinton scored with black voters when
she declared in a June debate at Howard University that the country
would be more worried about HIV/AIDS if the disease were
disproportionately affecting whites instead of blacks. The powerful
political impact of her statement was not diminished by the
circumstance that her facts were incorrect. The annual federal budget
for HIV research is $3 billion. This is more than the nation's entire
appropriation for research on either heart disease, Alzheimer's
disease, or breast cancer. But Clinton's assertion that racism drives
white-controlled government decisions on the allocations of disease
research stoked anti-white anger and won her acclaim among black
voters.
Obama Greets 4,000 of the Faithful in Madison...
http://community.livejournal.com/obama_2008/77385.html
by Matt DeFour, Wisconsin State Journal
Organizers are calling the campaign event the largest student-driven
event the Obama campaign has held.
More than 300 people were lined up to see Obama at the Monona Terrace
Convention Center before the doors opened this morning at 9:30 a.m.
and by 11 a.m. more than 1,000 were waiting for admittance to an
overflow area.
When They Were Young
http://nymag.com/news/features/39321/
At law school during tumultuous times, Barack and Hillary negotiated
the compromises between their ideals, ambitions, and the American
Establishment that underlie their candidacies.
By John Heilemann
Up on the third floor of Griswold Hall on the Harvard Law School
campus, you can find the handbill-festooned office of Professor Duncan
Kennedy. In all the coverage you will read of the 2008 presidential
election, the likelihood of your running across his name-other than
right now, that is-is vanishingly small. Kennedy is a leftist whose
disregard for conventional politics is severe. But he is also a link,
strangely enough, between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. In 1971,
Kennedy, a recent Yale Law School graduate, published an article in
The Yale Review of Law and Social Action, of which Clinton was then an
editor. The article was called "How the Law School Fails: A Polemic"
and advocated a creed that Kennedy dubbed "legal hippieism." In later
years, Kennedy, a founder of the avant-garde Critical Legal Studies
movement, would recommend that, in order to turn Harvard Law into a
"counterhegemonic enclave," it should admit students by lottery. Even
later, he would be among the prime instigators of a campaign for
faculty diversity that would consume the campus in the late eighties
and early nineties, with students occupying the dean's office, raising
holy hell. Among the students sucked into that m=EAl=E9e (though not into
the dean's office) was a young Obama.
One hundred and thirty-four miles separate the Harvard and Yale law
schools, but on the mental map of American liberalism, they are next-
door neighbors. Established in 1817 and 1843, respectively, the
schools have long been ground zero for the inculcation of left-leaning
politics and policy-and the places where countless aspiring Democratic
pols have gone to punch their tickets. They have also been the scenes
of some of the most bitter and convulsive conflagrations that the
academy has ever seen.
Obama's style may not affect election
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2007/10/16/obamas_style_may_not_affect=
_el.aspx
The presidential candidate said he chooses not to wear an American
flag pin on his lapel because he finds them a substitute for
patriotism.
By Allison Jackovitz and Jim Warkulwiz
For the Collegian
Despite Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's decision not
to wear an American flag pin on the lapel of his jacket, some Penn
State students said they feel the decision will not affect his White
House bid.
After the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, presidential candidates
sporting an American flag pin on their lapels became prominent.
Turns Out: Obama Still Found More Donors
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/turns_out_obama_still_=
found_mo.php
15 Oct 2007 10:14 pm
When we got out first look at the third quarter estimates two weeks
ago, it seemed that Sen. Hillary Clinton had attracted more new donors
to her campaign than he did -- approximately 7,000 more.
But the final numbers give the edge to Obama in this category: he
found 108,000 new donors and Clinton attracted 100,000.
Why Pauline is a Woman for Obama
http://www.election.pro/blogs/2007/10/15/why-pauline-is-a-woman-for-obama-2/
Pauline has spent her entire life in Northern California. She'd like
to stay there, because her family is there, and her daughter is
settled, but it's an expensive area, and she is a single mom. She
works in financial services, as a loan consultant, and especially
liked Barack's recent speech to Wall Street, when he asked the leaders
of our financial sector to work toward our common prosperity. Like
millions of homeowners and mortgage industry employees, Pauline's life
is directly impacted by the dishonest and irresponsible practices of a
few lenders.
Pauline doesn't have a digital camera, but she sent a picture a co-
worker took with her cell phone. After Pauline sent her story to
Women for Obama, we started an email correspondence. Her honest,
determined voice encourages us to be smart and steadfast in our
efforts to elect Barack.
Obama and the Kyl-Lieberman Vote, Cont'd.
http://thegarance.com/archives/827
Posted by Garance ()
I want to somewhat belatedly respond to Kevin Drum's response to my
post on Barack Obama's missing the vote on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment
to the Defense Authorization bill, which passed the Senate 76-22, with
Obama and John McCain as the only absences. Drum, in response to my
contention that the Obama campaign's efforts to paint the amendment as
the second coming of the 2002 resolution on the use of force in Iraq
made me wonder if he'd have skipped that vote, too, writes:
"there's simply no reason to suspect Obama would have missed the most
important floor vote of the entire year if he'd been a senator in
2002. Considering that all 100 senators were there, he would have been
rather conspicuous by his absence."
Commentary: Obama Cranks It Up In KC
http://www.kctv5.com/politics/14347180/detail.html?rss=3Dkan&psp=3Dnews
POSTED: 7:39 pm CDT October 15, 2007
UPDATED: 8:22 pm CDT October 15, 2007
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Determined volunteers turned out in a torrential
downpour Saturday morning to open a Kansas City campaign headquarters
for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
They weren't fazed by the elements or the vaunted Sen. Hillary Clinton
juggernaut. They think Obama's going to win the Iowa caucuses in
January and then win the Missouri primary on Feb. 5.
CBS's Harry Smith: 'Rock Star' Obama Needs More 'Audacity'
http://www.recycledart.org/petitions/node/6324
Tue, 10/16/2007 - 01:18 - parabiodox
On Monday's CBS "Early Show,"host Harry Smith teased an interview with
Barack Obama at the beginning of show and spoke of how the Democratic
presidential candidate is often, "...greeted as a Rock Star," by
voters.
The toughest questions asked by Smith were questions of why Obama is
behind Hillary Clinton in the polls, something Smith attributed to the
fact that, "There are people who like you a lot, who are saying we
want more of that audacity, there's not enough audacity in the
campaign."Well, we already know that Smith is in the Al Gore camp, so
finding any actual candidate as audacious would be a challenge.
Sweet blog special: 3Q Primary cash on hand/ Clinton $35 mil. Obama
$32 mil. Edwards about $12 mil. Developing as numbers are released.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/10/sweet_blog_special_3q_primary.html
WASHINGTON (AT REAGAN NATIONAL WAITING FOR DELAYED ATA FLIGHT TO
CHICAGO)--The presidential campaigns are filing third quarter Federal
Election Commission reports late on Monday.
While the money raised figures were put out by the campaigns a few
weeks ago, after the Sept. 30 end of the third quarter, other telling
figures will only be known once the reports are filed.
Meet Barack Obama
http://rfaithbarrett.blogspot.com/2007/10/meet-barack-obama.html
Barack Obama is the first major African American candidate to run for
President. A senator from Illinois, Barack Obama has come out of
Abram Lincoln's home state and he looks like he might just finished
what Lincoln started. Barack Obama might become the first ever
African American President. Obama broke into the world of national
politics at the 2006 Democratic convention, where he gave a speech
that knocked the crowd out (I should know I was watching it on TV, I
never cheered so much in my life). Ever since then he has been the
sweetheart of liberals and even a few moderate conservatives. There is
an energy surrounding the Obama campaign that has been compared to
that of Jack and Robert Kennedy's campaigns. He wins the youth vote in
every poll. He has to be Hilary Clinton's strongest opponent, with his
opposition to the Iraq war (from the beginning, he is the only one of
the major democratic candidates that can say that) and his promise of
a "new type of politics". He has become the candidate know for hope
and not using negative campaign tactics, however it has yet to be seen
if this is a winning strategy.
Obama says no to triangulation politics
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071015/ap_po/obama_clinton
By RYAN J. FOLEY, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 15, 6:03 PM ET
MADISON, Wis. - Barack Obama said Monday the nation has had enough of
"triangulation and poll-driven politics," a reference to the
presidency of Bill Clinton, the husband of his chief Democratic
rival.
Addressing a convention center rally dominated by students, Obama said
that he had spoken out against going to war in Iraq in 2002, even as
advisers told him it would be a mistake to challenge a popular
president, George W. Bush.
'Frontline' hammering the same nail -- ***** Cheney
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=3D57546
By Ted Cox | Daily Herald Columnist
Published: 10/15/2007 2:10 PM | Updated: 10/15/2007 2:28 PM
The PBS investigative series "Frontline" returns for a new season at 9
p=2Em. Tuesday on WTTW Channel 11, but if it were a network drama it
would be accused of recycling the same old plots.
The season premiere, "Cheney's Law," is the 10th documentary on Bush-
administration excesses producer Michael Kirk has done since Sept. 11,
2001, and it shows. Its argument, that Vice President ***** Cheney is
trying to expand presidential powers, seems familiar from previous
"Frontline" episodes like "The Dark Side," even if it's been given a
new, constitutional framework.
Veil of secrecy at Obama's London fundraiser
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/veil_of_secrecy_=
at_obamas_lond.html
By Tom Hundley
LONDON -- An unusual veil of secrecy shrouded Michelle Obama's
fundraising trip here Monday evening.
The $2,300-a-head event at the Landmark Hotel was "closed to the
press." But the hotel lobby 45 minutes before the event started?
Campaigning (and Drinking) for Obama
http://second-city.blogspot.com/2007/10/campaigning-and-drinking-for-obama.=
html
I spent this entire Saturday campaigning for Barack Obama in Iowa. Why
Iowa? Because they will hold the first caucus in the preliminary
election, thus "leading the way" for all the other states. Why Obama?
Well, Henriette and I went there with the group "Students for Barack
Obama", but in my case, that was simply beause there is no "Students
for Hillary Clinton" group on campus. While that is probably
considered blasphemy for as avid a Hillary supporter as I am, the
whole point was to experience US poltics and the entire grassroot
movement behind it up close and personal. Find the overview of my day
below...
Barack Obama in South Carolina
http://www.positivelybarack.com/2007/10/15/barack-obama-in-south-carolina/
Filed Under General
You have to believe in your heart that it's going to happen.
Obama reaces out to Community Connect members
http://www.901am.com/2007/obama-reaces-out-to-community-connect-members.html
By Dennis Bouchand =B7 Posted on October 15, 2007
Community Connect Inc. (CCI) announced that presidential candidate
Barack Obama has created a member profile on each of the company's
five sites in an effort to excite and engage potential voters. Since
going live on October 5, 2007, the success of the campaign has become
evident with Senator Obama's profiles garnering over 200,000 friends.
In one week, his profile on BlackPlanet.com garnered more friends than
his MySpace and Facebook profiles.
Senator Obama's campaign approached CCI's niche social networking
communities to facilitate compelling dialogues among passionate
constituents. His presence across BlackPlanet.com, MiGente.com,
AsianAve.com, GLEE.com and Faithbase.com allows his messages to
disseminate and circulate among highly targeted niche groups, and in
turn, gives those audiences a voice on the issues that concern them.
DOES A BEAR POOP IN THE WOODS?:
http://www.tnr.com/blog/the_plank?pid=3D151811
Remember that one time when the Pope had a Catholic funeral? How about
when, as soon as Obama tried to more explicitly lay out the case
against her, Hillary attacked him for abandoning the "politics of
hope"? The most obvious campaign move in recorded history is now in
full swing:
The campaign of Democratic presidential front-runner Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) released a memo Friday which accuses her closest
rival, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), of "[abandoning] the politics of hope
in favor of attack politics." ... "Apparently Senator Obama's fall in
the polls has led him to abandon his pledge to change our politics and
bring people together," the unsigned memo said.
The memo focuses on a statement from Obama on Clinton's vote on a
measure that designates the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist
organization.
Obama running for Big Candidate on Campus
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/obama_running_for_b=
ig_candidat.html
by Christi Parsons
Despite gloomy warnings about the unreliability of young voters, Sen.
Barack Obama's presidential campaign continues to invest money and
time in cultivating the campus crowd.
The latest sign is today's rally at the University of Wisconsin in
Madison, where Obama spoke to more than 4,000 students and community
members today.
Welcome to Freelance Obama '08
http://freelanceobama.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/hello-world/
For those of you that don't know me, my name is Justin Allen - a 24
year-old New Yorker - who wears quite a few different hats. I'm a
sports blogger, internet company owner and active participant in
Barack Obama's movement for change in NYC.
My thoughts on this blog - if it isn't apparent enough -, will be
solely devoted to my ramblings on the experiences I have campaigning
for Barack Obama.
Obama's workers blanket Iowa
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-field_tueoct16,0,3692=
240.story
Democrat's lesson from '04: Organize
By Mike Dorning | Tribune national correspondent
October 16, 2007
DES MOINES - In the squat former ice rink that houses Sen. Barack
Obama's Iowa headquarters, progress is measured in ones and twos.
It's an old-fashioned counting system redolent of yesteryear's
precinct walks that rates voters based on personal contact, usually
face-to-face meetings or one-on-one conversations over the telephone.
Michelle Obama on trail in London
She is latest to tap funds in Britain
By Tom Hundley | Tribune foreign correspondent
October 16, 2007
LONDON - Bill Clinton and Rudolph Giuliani are tough acts to follow
on the campaign fundraising circuit, but Michelle Obama, wife of
Democratic candidate Barack Obama, was in the British capital Monday
evening, doing her best to tap into the increasingly lucrative vein of
ex-pat donors.
She was the featured guest at a $2,300-per-head event at a London
hotel that was closed to the press.
Obama: Energy plan is costly but needed
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D2007710150325
By GRANT SCHULTE
REGISTER STAFF WRITER
October 15, 2007
6 Comments
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama acknowledged Sunday
that his plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions would temporarily
raise electricity bills until new technology lowers the cost of
operating under stricter standards.
Obama, a U.S. senator from Illinois, promised to protect low-income
families with financial assistance.
How Obama is playing in Iowa
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/16/how_obama_is_playing_=
in_iowa/
By Derrick Z. Jackson, Globe Columnist | October 16, 2007
DECORAH, Iowa
AT A RECENT rally at Luther College, Brenda Meyer text messaged her
sons when Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said he
respected the rights of hunters while decrying the dumping of handguns
and assault weapons into cities. Meyer is a 46-year-old nurse from
Decorah. She is a lifelong Republican and everyone in her family is a
hunter.
She was in Decorah only because she was dragged here by a friend,
Carol Hemesath, a Democrat and a mental-health therapist. Another
Democrat nursing friend, Deb Tekippe, tried to persuade Meyer to come
along earlier in the day but Meyer turned her down.
Obama calls himself underdog
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6367.html
By: Mike Allen
Oct 16, 2007 08:35 AM EST
Cash-flush Barack Obama has a new battle cry: "Close the gap!"
In an early-morning mass e-mail with the brash subject line "Hillary's
money," the Democratic presidential candidate claims that yesterday's
Federal Election Commission reports shows him at a financial
disadvantage to Hillary Clinton.
Michelle Obama: I'm Tired of Being Afraid
http://autisticbfh.blogspot.com/2007/10/michelle-obama-im-tired-of-being-af=
raid.html
When we choose to get involved in any sort of political activism,
whether it's a traditional political campaign or an Internet-based
civil rights effort such as the neurodiversity movement, there is
always some degree of risk. Change is scary, in and of itself.
Publicly speaking out and taking a stand for one's beliefs and values,
for a vision of hope and possibility, can be a lot scarier. Many
people are going to react negatively because they feel threatened by
change. Some of them are going to be quite hostile at first.
Occasionally, there will be a bigot who has so little decency that he
resorts to nasty underhanded tactics such as insulting the children of
his political adversaries. Threats of violence and real-life
harassment lurk in the background, breeding a climate of fear.
Sweet blog column extra: Taking page from GOP playbook, Obama invokes
Clinton name in fund-raising appeal.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/10/sweet_blog_column_extra_taking.html
HIGHLAND PARK, ILL.-- For years, fund-raising appeals from right wing
groups and various Republican party committees invoked the name of
Hillary Rodham Clinton in order to raise campaign cash. Add Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama to the list, who is doing some
Clinton mongering to spur donations.
Early Tuesday morning--hours after the news that Clinton outraised him
in the third quarter but most important, has more primary cash on hand
(by $2.1 million)--Obama attacked Clinton for taking money from
Washington lobbyists and political action committees.
Sen Obama Campaign Announces Child Advocacy Task Force
http://www.nhinsider.com/press-releases/2007/10/16/sen-obama-campaign-annou=
nces-child-advocacy-task-force.html
Educators, policy experts, and lifetime child advocates lead
grassroots organizing efforts throughout New Hampshire
MANCHESTER , NH- Senator Barack Obama's New Hampshire campaign today
announced the membership of our Child Advocacy Task Force . This
diverse group of community leaders, educators, lifetime child
advocates, development specialists, authors and policy and research
experts will coordinate outreach and advise the campaign on issues
affecting New Hampshire children and families.
Obama Appeal: 'Close the Gap'
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/16/obama-appeal-close-the-gap/
The Democratic candidate, whose fund-raising in the third quarter
dropped below that of his chief rival Senator Clinton, issues a call
for donations.
Michelle Obama: Just Folks
http://whatdoiknow.typepad.com/what_do_i_know/2007/10/michelle-obama-.html
Last night I met Michelle Obama in London. She was very impressive.
Not in a smarty pants, I-know-more-about-policy-than-you-do way, but
in a down home, I'm-a-mom-and-I-struggle-too way. I kept thinking I
could easily see her fitting into my circle of friends, not a feeling
I've ever had with any other candidate's spouse.
She's from South-side Chicago, and she doesn't try to hide her roots.
Her accent sounds just like my neighbors in Madison, who were also
from South Chicago. I remember bonding with them right away, because
they talked like my kind of folks, solidly down-home people, who don't
hang out very often in fancy hotels, who don't temper their speech
with $100 words and meaningless platitudes. Despite the fact she has
degrees from Princeton and Harvard, and is on Vanity Fair's Best
Dressed List (she looked stunning, yet casual, in black skirt and
tight-fitting top) she really is Just Folks.
Hillary Clinton v. Barack Obama Part 1 (2005)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/15/15918/791
by DemocraticLuntz
Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 12:09:18 PM PDT
I'm not going to speculate on why they voted how they did, unless it's
clear from the Congressional Record. That is what the comments section
and many, many, many diaries are for.
I will just link to the vote, give as much detail as is necessary to
explain what the vote was on, and say how each one voted, as well as
how the rest of the Senate voted in terms of party (Joe Lieberman and
Jim Jeffords are counted as Democrats).
Hot on the Trail
http://radarmagazine.com/from-the-magazine/2007/10/2008_campaign_hillary_cl=
inton_rudy_giuliani_barack_obama_mit.php
As the 2008 race for the White House kicks off, Radar's politics issue
gets personal with the top candidates
Washington, the old clich=E9 goes, is Hollywood for ugly people-a mecca
for ambitious strivers who lack the cheekbones or the glamour to make
it to the silver screen. But that was before wall-to-wall media
coverage turned presidential campaigns into lengthy spectacles as
relentlessly contrived and overproduced as the Golden Globes. Managed
by fleets of pricey handlers and professional writers, candidates have
become as manufactured as movie stars: coached on every aspect of
their dress and demeanor, and supplied with perky sound-bites for
spontaneous delivery on Letterman. Which is why, as we set out to plan
the cover of Radar's Politics issue, it seemed appropriate to do a
little facile packaging of our own. What better way to underline the
ego, excess, and artifice that dominate modern politics than to borrow
a page from Vanity Fair's now-notorious 2006 Hollywood issue, which
starred Tom Ford, Keira Knightley, and Scarlett Johansson in various
states of undress?
OBAMA
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/16/413002.aspx
Obama is now going after the OTHER Clinton, NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
reports. At a rally in Madison, Wisconsin yesterday, Obama said,
"We've had enough of ... triangulation and poll-driven politics.
That's not what we need right now." The triangulation term was coined
during the Clinton Administration, when advisers to the president
urged him to split the difference between opposing views in policy
proposals.
Denial is abdicating responsibility
http://addicthead.blogspot.com/2007/10/denial-is-abdicating-responsibility.=
html
Last night I was invited to hear Michelle Obama's talk at a fund
raiser in London. She is articulate and an energetic speaker. However,
her pitch about America's "Intimacy Deficit" got my attention.
I thought, fantastic! At last, a "relationship change agent" who is
passionate about partnership. But as quickly as she went into this she
changed direction and spoke about desensitisation in America's
people.Its not exclusive to America. People block emotions because of
fear.And fear is up there with the war against poverty.
Obama - "Hans off" our elections! Blocks Bush nominee, crosses
Sen.Reid
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/16/91544/024
by joan reports
Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 06:38:15 AM PDT
Harry Reid had made a deal, he thought, to let a partisan Republican
lawyer from DoJ's civil rights group, Hans von Spakovsky, get a vote
on his nomination by Bush to the FEC - in a "package deal" that would
let 3 others be voted on too.
von Spakovsky is one of the most repugnant of Bush's nominees to a
position to monitor electioneering, 1 of the most influential of folks
to jumpstart an outright purge of the voter rolls, beginning in
Florida 2000.
Obama places hold on Hans von Spakovsky
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/16/111940/27
by kos
Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 08:20:23 AM PDT
Bravo, Barack.
Obama Channels Edwards
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/obama-channels=
-=2Ehtml
16 Oct 2007 11:27 am
Repeat after me: "No more triangulation!"
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/again_obama_borrows_an=
gle_from.php
Again, Obama Borrows Angle From Edwards
16 Oct 2007 09:20 am
It's another step in the slow assumption by Barack Obama of John
Edwards's campaign message. But hey -- it night work for Obama where
it might not work for Edwards, although the receptiveness of rank-and-
file Democrats to a process message is not yet known.
On Diplomacy, Obama's Spokesman Links Clinton With Giuliani
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/on_diplomacy_obamas_sp=
okesman.php
16 Oct 2007 05:13 pm
Bill Burton, Barack Obama's spokesperson, e-mails a response to Rudy
Giuliani's assertion that Barack Obama, who regularly cites the
willingness of Ronald Reagan to negotiate with the Soviet Union, is,
himself, not Ronald Reagan.
E-mails Burton: "While Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton do not think
we should engage in the type of strong diplomacy practiced by Ronald
Reagan and John Kennedy, Obama does. And given the hefty fee that Hugo
Chavez's oil company paid Rudy Giuliani's firm, he apparently thinks
we shouldn't talk to Chavez, but it's fine to take his money."
***** Cheney Is Related To Barack Obama
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/dick_cheney_is_related=
_to_bara.php
16 Oct 2007 03:44 pm
They're eighth cousins, apparently.
Obama Raises $431,000 In Hours
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/obama_raises_431000_in=
_hours.php
16 Oct 2007 02:34 pm
He asked his supporters to close the gap between himself and Sen.
Clinton, and his 365,000-strong movement has responded.
Clinton's And Obama's Donors
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/clintons-and-o=
b=2Ehtml
16 Oct 2007 03:52 pm
An interesting difference.
Obama In Iowa
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/obama-in-iowa.=
html
16 Oct 2007 02:39 pm
Some Republicans are interested:
"My father would be rolling in his grave if he knew I came to this
rally," Meyer said. "I hope I wasn't shmoozed but he said sometimes we
have to do the right thing because it is the right thing, even if it
is unpopular. It is time we had a president who did that."
Why People Get Mad At The MSM
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/why-people-get=
-=2Ehtml
16 Oct 2007 10:15 am
One reason anyway:
A reporter in Iowa asked Obama why he doesn't wear the pin and Obama
explained that, to him, wearing the pin had come to seem like a
"substitute for true patriotism." Bravo, Senator. And then, in yet
another shining example of why the media is part of the problem, ABC's
Claire Shipman said, "TMI, too much information -- all he had to say
was, 'Don't judge me by what I wear, move on.' He played into the idea
that he's not ready for prime time."
What, schoolgirl? "Too much information?" What is she, 12? This is
typical press hypocrisy -- they say they want somebody who doesn't
give pat political answers, but when they get one, they call him a
loser. They say they don't like safe robots like Hillary, but they
create conditions where only that species can survive. And they give
cover to people like Sean Hannity, who reported on "no pin" gate and
then had to call a doctor because his fake outrage hard-on lasted
longer than 72 hours.
Obama's field offices laying groundwork in Iowa
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/obamas_field_office=
s_laying_gr.html
by Mike Dorning
DES MOINES - In the squat former ice rink that houses Sen. Barack
Obama's Iowa headquarters, progress is measured in ones and twos.
It's an old-fashioned counting system redolent of yesteryear's
precinct walks that rates voters based on personal contact, usually
face-to-face meetings or one-on-one conversations over the telephone.
OBAMA HIV/AIDS PLAN -- THE DETAILS
http://blogtoendaids.blogspot.com/2007/10/obama-hivaids-plan-details.html
BARACK OBAMA: FIGHTING HIV/AIDS WORLDWIDE
"We are all sick because of AIDS - and we are all tested by this
crisis. It is a test not only of our willingness to respond, but of
our ability to look past the artificial divisions and debates that
have often shaped that response. When you go to places like Africa and
you see this problem up close, you realize that it's not a question of
either treatment or prevention - or even what kind of prevention - it
is all of the above. It is not an issue of either science or values -
it is both. Yes, there must be more money spent on this disease. But
there must also be a change in hearts and minds, in cultures and
attitudes. Neither philanthropist nor scientist, neither government
nor church, can solve this problem on their own - AIDS must be an all-
hands-on-deck
effort."
Obama and Iran. Homey Don't Play That
http://jackandjillpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/10/obama-and-iran-homey-don-pl=
ay-that.html
I almost let this story slip through the cracks and hadn't seen much
coverage here in the Afrosphere outside of JP Smith over at
black...MYstory, so here goes. Last Thursday, Obama dropped one hell
of an op ed in the Union Leader about the Lieberman-Kyl bill labeling
Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. Titled "Five
years after Iraq war vote, we're still foolishly rattling our sabers"
Obama writes:
an amendment passed last month by the Senate could be used by the
President as justification to strike Iran under the authority granted
to him by the 2002 Iraq war resolution.
<snip>
Why is this so dangerous? The Bush administration could use language
like this to justify a continued troop presence in Iraq as long as it
perceives a threat from Iran. Even worse, the Bush administration
could use the language in Lieberman-Kyl to justify an attack on Iran
as a part of the ongoing war in Iraq.
All in the family: Cheney and Obama related
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/16/all-in-the-family-cheney-an=
d-obama-related/
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Go back far enough, the saying goes, and everyone's
related.
But could it be possible that Democratic presidential candidate Barack
Obama and Vice President ***** Cheney share a common ancestor?
Obama's Major Endorsement
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2007/10/obamas_major_endorsement_possi.html
Barack Obama's campaign just announced that they've received the
endorsement of Major Owens, a former congressional representative and
political force in Brooklyn politics for years. "It is time to shake
loose from the past," Owens said in a statement about endorsing Obama.
But why is the Owens's endorsement coming so late from Obama's camp if
the strategy is to show that Obama has support in key black
communities in Brooklyn? The pol who replaced him, Yvette Clarke,
endorsed Hillary way back in July. "After careful deliberations and
discussions with the diverse base of my constituency, I am convinced
that Senator Clinton is best able to win and bring much needed change
to the White House," she said. So, what does Obama really gain?
"Nothing," says one political operative affiliated with the Clinton
campaign. Of course that's not how Obama sees Brooklyn. Already, the
campaign points out, five elected in Brooklyn have endorsed him. Says
an Obama aide: "The point is that Hillary has to work for it in her
own backyard." - Geoffrey Gray
Obama reports surge in online contributions
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/obama_campaign_r=
eports_surge_i.html
by John McCormick
Maybe people really do read their e-mail in the morning.
Following an electronic solicitation sent early today, Sen. Barack
Obama's presidential campaign says it is receiving a surge in online
contributions. The Swamp reported about the e-mailed fundraising pitch
this morning.
Obama outlines policies for rural America
http://www.thebarackobamareport.com/the_barack_obama_report/2007/10/obama-o=
utlines-.html
Barack Obama is spelling out a package of rural-focused proposals
Tuesday that would aid smaller farmers, set goals for an expanding
renewable fuels industry and establish incentives for organic
production.
Obama called for a goal of producing 2 billion gallons of cellulosic
ethanol by 2013, while taking care that such an expansion doesn't
worsen pollution.
Strong youth turnout for Obama
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/index.php?ntid=3D251195&ntpid=3D1
By MATT DeFOUR Wisconsin State Journal
Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's visit to Madison on Monday highlighted
how the Democratic presidential hopeful is mobilizing students in
hopes of winning the party's contest in Iowa.
Obama rallied about 4,000 mostly young people at Monona Terrace,
calling on them to "e-mail everybody you know," volunteer and recruit
others to join the campaign.
Barack unveils rural agenda in Fairfax, Iowa
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post_group/ObamaHQ/Cnvl
By Nick Kimball - Oct 16th, 2007 at 3:19 pm EDT
After hosting a rural issues forum in Adel, IA, and a rural policy
summit in Tama, IA, and directing his Rural Advisory Committee to hold
more than 30 round table discussions across the state, Barack today
unveiled his plan to bring real leadership for rural America.
Obama Stands Up
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2007/10/16/123311/48
by BooMan
Tue Oct 16th, 2007 at 12:33:10 PM EST
I want to like Barack Obama. I want something to make me enthusiastic
about voting for him. Yet, he hasn't been showing me much. Today, he
stepped up and did something to make me believe in him. He placed a
hold on the nomination of Hans von Spakovsky to a permanent position
on the Federal Election Commission. He was recess appointed by Bush on
January 4, 2006. In other words, Bush couldn't secure the Senate's
approval of this guy when Bill Frist was running the joint. Why?
Obama Steps It Up On Climate Change
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/10/obama_steps_it.php
by John Laumer, Philadelphia on 10.15.07
Predictably, an ordinary campaign mention of climate policy will no
longer suffice, not since Al Gore received the Nobel prize. First out
of the US presidential campaign gate with a reaction, Senator Barack
Obama seems to have gotten some religion.
Obama: "close the gap"
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/10/16/15511/688
by Obama08, Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 03:51:01 PM EST
Today Barack Obama launched a fundraising drive with an e-mail
entitled "close the gap."
Hooray For Obama!
http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2007/10/hooray_for_obam.htm
The BRAD BLOG : Obama Blocks Vote on Von Spakovsky in Senate!,
A Democrat does the right thing for a change! What are the odds these
days?
..=2E. Roll Call (subscription req'd) is reporting that Harry Reid (D-NV)
and the Democratic Leadership had shamefully "struck a deal" with
Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KS) to slide four FEC
nominations, including the GOP "voter fraud" zealot, von Spakovsky,
through the Senate on a voice vote, unless any Senators objected.
Obama did object today and succeeded in blocking the vote. Bravo!
Don't back down, Senator!
Obama Blocks Political Patronage of Purely Anti-Democratic Nominee
http://thesubversivegarden.blogspot.com/2007/10/obama-blocks-political-patr=
onage-of.html
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Wednesday derailed a plan blessed by
Senate leaders to vote on controversial Federal Election Commission
White House nominee Hans von Spakovsky, a move giving Democrats time
to breathe in the ongoing Senate stalemate on FEC nominees.
Against Obama For His Own Good
http://news.ccpblogs.com/2007/10/16/against-obama-for-his-own-good/
My editor pointed me to this New York Times piece over the weekend.
The reporter stopped by a South Carolina beauty shop to ask the ladies
what they thought of the Dem candidates. Interesting perspectives
abound. Beauty shop owner Clara Vereen says she'd like to see Barack
Obama as president, but she's got to be "real."
"I fear that they just would kill him, that he wouldn't even have a
chance," she said as she styled a customer's hair with a curling iron.
One way to protect him, she suggested, would be not to vote for him.
REFUTING LIES ABOUT BARACK / MUSLIM ETC ETC ETC
http://talkbarackobama08.com/boards/index.php?topic=3D208.msg953#msg953
=AB on: April 22, 2007, 12:00:39 PM =BB
1=2E Search for rumors being spread. This would include googling (both
regular Google and News Google) for likely lies such as:
Obama Muslim
Barack Hussein Obama
Obama Rizko
Also by searching 'tagging' sites, and any other sources we might find
and share with each other. For example, I printed out that 'Human
Events - Obama Exposed' article:
http://www.humanevents.com/offers/offer.php?id=3DBHO201
and signed up for their emails so I'd know what 'talking points' and
phrases their supporters might pick up on - so I could do better
searches. Just search for 'Obama Exposed' and you'll find some
copycats.
Note to Obama and Edwards: Step-Up on Iran
http://thumbjig.blogspot.com/2007/10/note-to-obama-and-edwards-step-up-on.h=
tml
Note to Obama and Edwards: Step-Up on Iran
by Mike Gravel
I'm glad to see John Edwards and Barack Obama have finally begun to
upbraid Hillary Clinton for going along with Bush's impending attack
on Iran. We presidential candidates must keep raising this story
because the mainstream media is not doing its job, once again. Two
weeks ago, Seymour Hersh exposed the Pentagon's plans to attack Iran,
but the MSM failed to follow up with a sustained inquiry. We
presidential candidates must pick up the slack and constantly alert
the American public that Bush, Clinton and the go-along Congressional
Dems are leading us into another disastrous war.
Obama's Underdog Strategy Emerges
http://2008central.net/?p=3D1453
October 16th, 2007 =B7 Written by 08 Guru AsC =B7 1 Comment
Barack Obama is beginning to portray himself as an underdog in the
Democratic primary. In an email sent to supporters, Obama announces
that he is $2.1 million behind Hillary Clinton and that he the gap
must be closed "right now." Obama bluntly states:
"Washington lobbyists have chosen their candidate and are determined
to provide her with an overwhelming advantage, but you can even up
this contest...In the face of the most entrenched political machine in
Democratic politics, I believe a movement of ordinary Americans can
change our country"
Unspinning the money
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1007/Unspinning_the_money.html
Jeanne Cummings has a piece in today's Politico pointing out that when
you account for Hillary's $2-million plus in debt, she and Obama have
the same amount to spend over the next, crucial weeks.
This actually cuts against both campaigns' spin. Obviously, Hillary's
is about victory and inevitability.
Lucky White Obama Girl!
http://www.luckywhitegirl.com/2007/10/lucky-white-oba.html
Welcome to LWG's very first post on the 2008 Presidential election.
Let's get right to the point. I have been stand-offish on elections
for the past, oh, say dozen years or so, because I believed that no
real change comes out of them.
It was merely a question of appearances, I thought. Do you like the
iron fist of U.S. imperialism with or without the velvet glove? When
Clinton was in office we protested the regular, low-scale bombing of
Iraq, the crippling economic sanctions that caused Sadaam little
difficulty but was devastating to the most vulnerable members of the
Iraqi population (the children, the elderly and the infirm). Clinton
brought us NAFTA, maquilladoras on the border, and a David v. Goliath
war on Serbia to "liberate" Kosovo (read "liberate access to an
important oil pipeline in the area and secure US regional interests).
Gen-X Conservatives and Obama
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/gen-x-conserv-=
1=2Ehtml#more
16 Oct 2007 08:28 pm
A reader writes:
I'm a young, newly-minted assistant professor here at a large state
school in Mississippi and I've got to say I've had just had an
interesting conversation with one of my more conservative students. As
far as I can tell he's a pretty 'die hard' Republican. He's really big
into state and local politics and is even participating in a big way
in a statewide campaign - and not for the first time. He is bright,
sophisticated, and probably a future power in state and local politics
here in Mississippi.
Why I Support Barack Obama
http://www.asianamericansforobama.com/home/2007/10/why-i-support-b.html
A testimonial from Obama supporter, Christina Wang:
I knew I was going to write a piece about my support for Barack Obama,
but I just didn't know when I would buckle down and actually do this.
After reading my fellow Wellesley alum's note on her reasons for
supporting him on Facebook, I finally felt compelled to put my own
thoughts to paper.
Obama Hopes to "Close the Gap"
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/10/16/obama_hope_to_close_the=
_gap.html
Can bad fundraising news be potentially good?
Sen. Barack Obama seems to hope so. After reporting that he has less
cash on hand than Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton at the end of the third
quarter this week, Obama sent a plea to his supporters to help "close
the gap" between the two campaigns.
Obama Takes Off The Gloves
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2007/oct/16/obama_takes_off_the_glo=
ves_and_pounds_hillary_re_fundraising
mjrosenberg's picture
By M.J. Rosenberg | bio
I got an interesting e-mail from Barack Obama today.
He wants my money which is cool.
Does Obama's Message Match the Moment?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/16/AR200710160=
2267.html
Reconciliation May Be Hard Sell to Angry Party
By Alec MacGillis
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 17, 2007; Page A01
WASHINGTON, Iowa -- A hush fell over the crowd as Sen. Barack Obama
crossed the field, his white shirt glowing in the sun, waves of
cornstalks rustling behind him. Once inside the open barn on the
county fairgrounds here, he offered a message as uplifting as the
backdrop, promising a new era of consensus instead of partisan divide.
"We're going to win an election, but more importantly, we're going to
change the country," the Illinois Democrat said. Nothing will get done
in Washington "unless we not only change political parties in the
White House, but also change our politics."
In N.E., big names in business to show support for Obama
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/17/in_ne_big_names_in_bu=
siness_to_show_support_for_obama/
By Scott Helman, Globe Staff | October 17, 2007
They are some of New England's biggest names in business - titans of
venture capital, banking, biotechnology, advertising, even yogurt. And
aside from a love of commerce, they have this in common: They are
backing the presidential bid of Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.
Here's how Walker would write it: Obama wins
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/10/heres_how=
_walke.html
Alice Walker, author of "The Color Purple" and one of the country's
most prominent African-American artists, has made an eloquent four-
minute podcast about why she believes Barack Obama is fit to be
president. She cites his multi-cultural and multi-national background,
as well as his understanding of the world as "complicated but
workable." "I feel we desperately need people in leadership who have
more of an idea of the real world than any of the people we've had
before," she says. (Hat tip to Ben Smith.)
Hillary Clinton v. Barack Obama Part 2 (2006) Hotlist
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/16/11213/104
by DemocraticLuntz
Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 05:22:15 PM PDT
This diary details every vote cast where Hillary Clinton and Barack
Obama voted differently during 2006 (it ignores votes where one of
them was absent).
I'm not going to speculate on why they voted how they did, unless it's
clear from the Congressional Record. That is what the comments section
and many, many, many diaries are for.
Urban Legends Reference Pages: Who Is Barack Obama?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Exclusive: Barack Obama E-mails The Brody File
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/204017.aspx
Obama
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/238373de21bbe19d
.

User: "Martin Phipps"

Title: Re: OT: Will We One Day Marry Robots? 17 Oct 2007 06:40:04 AM
I think I already did. All my wife wants is sex, sex and more sex.
She must be a machine. Pity me. :)
Martin
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT: Will We One Day Marry Robots? 25 Oct 2007 06:59:46 AM
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:40:04 -0700, Martin Phipps wrote in message
<1192621204.674650.311610@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:

I think I already did. All my wife wants is sex, sex and more sex.
She must be a machine. Pity me. :)

Martin

[trad]: PS please excuse the shakey handwriting....
.


User: "Hatter"

Title: Re: OT: Will We One Day Marry Robots? 17 Oct 2007 05:47:32 AM
On Oct 17, 6:37 am, maff <maf...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Will We One Day Marry Robots?http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/will-we-...

15 Oct 2007 10:05 pm

The answer is yes. One blogger predicts:

"Considerable social backlash. Even in Massachusetts."

Sex and marriage with robots? It could happenhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21271545/

Robots soon will become more human-like in appearance, researcher says

By Charles Q. Choi
Special to LiveScience
Updated: 6:05 p.m. ET Oct. 12, 2007

Humans could marry robots within the century. And consummate those
vows.

"My forecast is that around 2050, the state of Massachusetts will be
the first jurisdiction to legalize marriages with robots," artificial
intelligence researcher David Levy at the University of Maastricht in
the Netherlands told LiveScience. Levy recently completed his Ph.D.
work on the subject of human-robot relationships, covering many of the
privileges and practices that generally come with marriage as well as
outside of it.

Will humans marry robots in 50 years?http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/10/will_humans_marry_robo...

Category: News
Posted on: October 15, 2007 8:45 AM, by Dave Munger

The idea of a human falling in love with a creation made of steel and
silicon seems rather far-fetched today -- even the most "realistic"
robots seem more creepy than endearing. But people already do form
attachments to their robots. People treat Roombas like pets, and
soldiers form strong bonds with their minesweeping robots.

My girlfreind and I discussed this, and I've said it before. The
concept of it happening by 2050 is laughable. ANti-miscenigation laws
were prosecuted in the 1960s, less than 50 years ago. The majority
still are blocking one human from marrying another due to them being
the same sex, and this blogger is telling me that people will marry
THEIR PROPERTY in 43 years....yeah right pal. Dream on. Sex with
robots, sure..its just a high tech blow up doll. But that sort of
attachment, not within a century because no corporation is going to
spend the money to delvelop a peice of property that won't listen to
them.
Hatter
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User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: OT: Will We One Day Marry Robots? 17 Oct 2007 09:13:45 AM
Hatter wrote:

Dream on. Sex with
robots, sure..its just a high tech blow up doll. But that sort of
attachment, not within a century because no corporation is going to
spend the money to delvelop a peice of property that won't listen to
them.

ROFLMAOASMTMN
.

User: ""

Title: Re: OT: Will We One Day Marry Robots? 17 Oct 2007 03:25:02 PM
On 17 okt, 12:47, Hatter <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 17, 6:37 am, maff <maf...@yahoo.com> wrote:



Will We One Day Marry Robots?http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/will-we-...


15 Oct 2007 10:05 pm


The answer is yes. One blogger predicts:


"Considerable social backlash. Even in Massachusetts."


Sex and marriage with robots? It could happenhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21271545/


Robots soon will become more human-like in appearance, researcher says


By Charles Q. Choi
Special to LiveScience
Updated: 6:05 p.m. ET Oct. 12, 2007


Humans could marry robots within the century. And consummate those
vows.


"My forecast is that around 2050, the state of Massachusetts will be
the first jurisdiction to legalize marriages with robots," artificial
intelligence researcher David Levy at the University of Maastricht in
the Netherlands told LiveScience. Levy recently completed his Ph.D.
work on the subject of human-robot relationships, covering many of the
privileges and practices that generally come with marriage as well as
outside of it.


Will humans marry robots in 50 years?http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/10/will_humans_marry_robo...


Category: News
Posted on: October 15, 2007 8:45 AM, by Dave Munger


The idea of a human falling in love with a creation made of steel and
silicon seems rather far-fetched today -- even the most "realistic"
robots seem more creepy than endearing. But people already do form
attachments to their robots. People treat Roombas like pets, and
soldiers form strong bonds with their minesweeping robots.


My girlfreind and I discussed this, and I've said it before. The
concept of it happening by 2050 is laughable. ANti-miscenigation laws
were prosecuted in the 1960s, less than 50 years ago. The majority
still are blocking one human from marrying another due to them being
the same sex, and this blogger is telling me that people will marry
THEIR PROPERTY in 43 years....yeah right pal. Dream on. Sex with
robots, sure..its just a high tech blow up doll. But that sort of
attachment, not within a century because no corporation is going to
spend the money to delvelop a peice of property that won't listen to
them.

Hatter- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -

- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Correction, the concept of it happening by 2057 (now is 2007) is
laughable. :-)
Though stupid laws are always being made in stupid countries we can be
sure that marriage will in the future be a sort of contract between
two conscious - and consulting -adults. As the need for conscious
Robots is not very great, and research with other intelligent animals
is succesfull, I would expect that chances would be that apes and
dolphins would have access to marriage long before robots have.
I suppose before being allowed to marry a Robot should first pass the
Turing test.
I have not heared about any serious attempt to make one that can do
that.
As I have said in another thread on this NG it is relatively easy to
make a Robot that could have subjective experiences. All one had to
do, is provide a memory where previously made conclusion were stored,
and a routine to display items from that memory. But passing the
turing test is quite something else.
The Robot would need to have a great deal of knowledge of the "real"
world. Would have to have good access to a enormous amount of memory
data, and being able to link that data to other data, especially to
the newest data.
It would have to have knowledge about the meaning of words and about
grammar, and more so, would have to know it had that knowledge.
In reply to "you are a fucking idiot" it would have to know what
fucking meant, and what idot meant, and also that "fucking idiot"
almost never ever means that the person is having sex and has
extremely low intelligence.
To pass, an answer like. "same to you" would be preverable,
or maybe better. Closing communications!
Although such a Robot is theoretically possible, and might some day in
the future, be enormously more intelligent than humans. The chances of
us founding enough money and putting in enough effort to create one,
are slim.
Maybe it will never happen.
Of course the chances that some fucking idiot would WANT to marry a
robot are reasonably great.
Peter van Velzen
October 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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Title: Re: OT: Will We One Day Marry Robots? 17 Oct 2007 05:32:57 PM
On 17 Oct 2007 13:25:02 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl"
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote:

I suppose before being allowed to marry a Robot should first pass the
Turing test.

So should the human wanting to marry one.
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Title: Hey yangie poo - Will We One Day Marry Robots? 17 Oct 2007 03:54:31 PM
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:37:00 -0700, maff <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:

Will We One Day Marry Robots?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/will-we-one-day.html

15 Oct 2007 10:05 pm

The answer is yes. One blogger predicts:

hey yangie poo, your blow up doll will have competition for your attention.


"Considerable social backlash. Even in Massachusetts."

Sex and marriage with robots? It could happen
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21271545/

Robots soon will become more human-like in appearance, researcher says

By Charles Q. Choi
Special to LiveScience
Updated: 6:05 p.m. ET Oct. 12, 2007

Humans could marry robots within the century. And consummate those
vows.

"My forecast is that around 2050, the state of Massachusetts will be
the first jurisdiction to legalize marriages with robots," artificial
intelligence researcher David Levy at the University of Maastricht in
the Netherlands told LiveScience. Levy recently completed his Ph.D.
work on the subject of human-robot relationships, covering many of the
privileges and practices that generally come with marriage as well as
outside of it.

Will humans marry robots in 50 years?
http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2007/10/will_humans_marry_robots_in_50.php

Category: News
Posted on: October 15, 2007 8:45 AM, by Dave Munger

The idea of a human falling in love with a creation made of steel and
silicon seems rather far-fetched today -- even the most "realistic"
robots seem more creepy than endearing. But people already do form
attachments to their robots. People treat Roombas like pets, and
soldiers form strong bonds with their minesweeping robots.

About self-righteousness and Al Gore
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/about_selfrighteousness_and_al.php

13 Oct 2007 01:05 am

I am old enough... well, there are many ways to end that sentence, but
for now: I am old enough to remember, from my school years, the
disdainful reaction in my home town to the news that Martin Luther
King had won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964.

The reaction was, of course, racial at its root. This was a majority-
white, minority-Hispanic small town with very few black residents,
which went for Barry Goldwater over Lyndon Johnson in the presidential
election that same fall.


Obama knocks them off their feet
http://www.cbs58.com/index.php?aid=651

October 15, 2007 - 04:01:22 PM Democratic presidential hopeful Barack
Obama rallies crowd in Madison, while also calling for paramedics to
attend to three different supporters who fainted during his speech.

MADISON--

"I'm just knocking them off their feet!"

Never before have a candidate's words been so true.

Coulson's House Party for Obama
http://www.wncobama.com/Blog/?p=27

October 16th, 2007

THE COULSON'S HOUSE PARTY FOR OBAMA
We're holding this party as a get together of those whom we know care
about our nation and are undoubtedly interested in the upcoming
Presidential Election. Fed up with politics as usual and ready for
change, we (Barbara and Tom) are supporters of Barack Obama and we'll
be talking him up. If you're supporting someone else, we hope you'll
come to share your views and questions. After all, whether you're
selecting a president or going to war, good decisions require good
information.

We North Carolinians have no say in the nomination; it'll all be
settled by the time of our primary. We're spectators in the election,
as well. But there is a way we can materially have an effect on both
processes (aside from making contributions) and we'll also be talking
about that.

Students undertake Obama activism
http://maroon.uchicago.edu/online_edition/news/2007/10/16/students-undertake-obama-activism/

By admin
Tuesday, October 16th, 2007

About two dozen U of C students attended the kickoff meeting for
Students for Barack Obama (SBFO) last Wednesday to rally support for
the senator's presidential campaign.

"We focus on converting the grassroots energy and activism on campus
into forms we can use to progress the campaign, and we want students
to take ownership of the campaign and their political lives," said
second-year Chris Benedik, the communications director for the U of C
chapter of SFBO.

Clinton and Obama in virtual money tie
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6365.html

By: Jeanne Cummings
Oct 16, 2007 01:43 AM EST

The third quarter fundraising race between Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.)
and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) ended in a photo finish just before
midnight Monday.

When the official reports went public on the Federal Election
Commission website, they showed that Clinton raised more money but
Obama eked out his own victory by virtually matching the amount of
cash she has in the bank to spend on the hard-fought primary race.

Obama's wife in London on charm offensive
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/16/nobama116.xml

By Alex Spillius, Sally Peck and David Blair
Last Updated: 2:42am BST 16/10/2007

The wife of the US presidential candidate Barack Obama last night
brought his White House campaign to Britain when she played host at a
fund-raising event in London.

Michelle Obama entertained hundreds of American expatriates willing to
pay handsomely for a taste of the excitement generated by her
husband's drive to become the country's first black president.

Obama reaches out to UW youth
http://badgerherald.com/news/2007/10/16/obama_reaches_out_to.php

by Tom Schalmo
Tuesday, October 16, 2007

Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama visited Madison on
Monday, calling himself the 2008 candidate who can reach out to people
who are looking for a fresh, inspirational leader.

Obama, the junior United States senator from Illinois, spoke for about
45 minutes to more than 4,000 people - many of them University of
Wisconsin students - at Madison's Monona Terrace.

Reich defends Obama on experience
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/10/reich-defends-o.html

Former Clinton administration Labor Secretary Robert Reich defends
Barack Obama against Bill Clinton's charge that he lacks experience:
"When he ran in 1992, Bill Clinton had been the governor of a small,
rural southern state; as such, he had only limited experience with
national issues and no foreign policy experience to speak of.
Incidentally, at this point in the 2008 presidential election, Hillary
Clinton has served as an elected official in the U.S. Senate for not
quite eight years, and before that a first lady in the White House.
Obama has so far held elective office for almost 12 years, at both
levels of government -- first as an Illinois state senator and then as
a U.S. senator. Before that he was a community organizer among
Chicago's poor, and then a civil rights lawyer -- two experiences that
in my view are critically relevant to anyone seeking to become
president of all Americans."

Barack Obama is not a Muslim
http://shopfortruth.com/2007/10/15/barack-obama-is-not-a-muslim/

October 15th, 2007

A whisper campaign has begun in the form of anonymous emails either
claiming or alluding to the fact that Barack Obama is a Muslim. Which
he is not. He is a Protestant. In fact, an August 2007 poll asked
people to name about Obama's faith. Most people said they didn't know
or didn't care, but the next most common response was Muslim.
Protestant was second at 6 percent.

Obama capable of easing American racial tensions
http://media.www.dailyorange.com/media/storage/paper522/news/2007/10/16/Opinion/Obama.Capable.Of.Easing.American.Racial.Tensions-3033625.shtml

S. N. Sangmpam

Issue date: 10/16/07 Section: Opinion

A question was recently asked by some African Americans about Sen.
Barack Obama: Is Obama "black?"

The answer is that he is neither "black" nor "white," but the best
hope for American politics.

Obama seeks votes, volunteers in Wisconsin college town
http://news.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?a=311737&z=16

10/15/2007 11:26:31 PM

McClatchy-Tribune Information Services

MADISON, Wis. -- In a rare break from the early primary states,
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama came to Monday's rally in
Madison with two things in mind: votes and volunteers.

With Wisconsin not voting until the Feb. 19 primary, the message to
those in the student-heavy crowd of 4,000 was they cannot deliver the
first -- their votes -- unless they put in the time now on the second,
by volunteering.

Barack Obama - The Journal Of Blacks In Higher Education Endorses
Obama For President
http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2007/10/barack-obama-journal-of-blacks-in.html

The Journal Of Blacks In Higher Education Endorses Obama For
President and in so doing Theodore Cross, representing The Journal,
wrote an article that calls into question Senator Hillary Rodham
Clinton's genuine commitment to African Americans.

If you read it, it's damning of Clinton, for example..

In her campaign to lock up black support, there are no qualms about
playing the race card. Senator Clinton scored with black voters when
she declared in a June debate at Howard University that the country
would be more worried about HIV/AIDS if the disease were
disproportionately affecting whites instead of blacks. The powerful
political impact of her statement was not diminished by the
circumstance that her facts were incorrect. The annual federal budget
for HIV research is $3 billion. This is more than the nation's entire
appropriation for research on either heart disease, Alzheimer's
disease, or breast cancer. But Clinton's assertion that racism drives
white-controlled government decisions on the allocations of disease
research stoked anti-white anger and won her acclaim among black
voters.

Obama Greets 4,000 of the Faithful in Madison...
http://community.livejournal.com/obama_2008/77385.html

by Matt DeFour, Wisconsin State Journal

Organizers are calling the campaign event the largest student-driven
event the Obama campaign has held.

More than 300 people were lined up to see Obama at the Monona Terrace
Convention Center before the doors opened this morning at 9:30 a.m.
and by 11 a.m. more than 1,000 were waiting for admittance to an
overflow area.

When They Were Young
http://nymag.com/news/features/39321/

At law school during tumultuous times, Barack and Hillary negotiated
the compromises between their ideals, ambitions, and the American
Establishment that underlie their candidacies.

By John Heilemann

Up on the third floor of Griswold Hall on the Harvard Law School
campus, you can find the handbill-festooned office of Professor Duncan
Kennedy. In all the coverage you will read of the 2008 presidential
election, the likelihood of your running across his name-other than
right now, that is-is vanishingly small. Kennedy is a leftist whose
disregard for conventional politics is severe. But he is also a link,
strangely enough, between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. In 1971,
Kennedy, a recent Yale Law School graduate, published an article in
The Yale Review of Law and Social Action, of which Clinton was then an
editor. The article was called "How the Law School Fails: A Polemic"
and advocated a creed that Kennedy dubbed "legal hippieism." In later
years, Kennedy, a founder of the avant-garde Critical Legal Studies
movement, would recommend that, in order to turn Harvard Law into a
"counterhegemonic enclave," it should admit students by lottery. Even
later, he would be among the prime instigators of a campaign for
faculty diversity that would consume the campus in the late eighties
and early nineties, with students occupying the dean's office, raising
holy hell. Among the students sucked into that mêlée (though not into
the dean's office) was a young Obama.

One hundred and thirty-four miles separate the Harvard and Yale law
schools, but on the mental map of American liberalism, they are next-
door neighbors. Established in 1817 and 1843, respectively, the
schools have long been ground zero for the inculcation of left-leaning
politics and policy-and the places where countless aspiring Democratic
pols have gone to punch their tickets. They have also been the scenes
of some of the most bitter and convulsive conflagrations that the
academy has ever seen.

Obama's style may not affect election
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2007/10/16/obamas_style_may_not_affect_el.aspx

The presidential candidate said he chooses not to wear an American
flag pin on his lapel because he finds them a substitute for
patriotism.


By Allison Jackovitz and Jim Warkulwiz
For the Collegian

Despite Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's decision not
to wear an American flag pin on the lapel of his jacket, some Penn
State students said they feel the decision will not affect his White
House bid.

After the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, presidential candidates
sporting an American flag pin on their lapels became prominent.

Turns Out: Obama Still Found More Donors
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/turns_out_obama_still_found_mo.php

15 Oct 2007 10:14 pm

When we got out first look at the third quarter estimates two weeks
ago, it seemed that Sen. Hillary Clinton had attracted more new donors
to her campaign than he did -- approximately 7,000 more.

But the final numbers give the edge to Obama in this category: he
found 108,000 new donors and Clinton attracted 100,000.

Why Pauline is a Woman for Obama
http://www.election.pro/blogs/2007/10/15/why-pauline-is-a-woman-for-obama-2/

Pauline has spent her entire life in Northern California. She'd like
to stay there, because her family is there, and her daughter is
settled, but it's an expensive area, and she is a single mom. She
works in financial services, as a loan consultant, and especially
liked Barack's recent speech to Wall Street, when he asked the leaders
of our financial sector to work toward our common prosperity. Like
millions of homeowners and mortgage industry employees, Pauline's life
is directly impacted by the dishonest and irresponsible practices of a
few lenders.

Pauline doesn't have a digital camera, but she sent a picture a co-
worker took with her cell phone. After Pauline sent her story to
Women for Obama, we started an email correspondence. Her honest,
determined voice encourages us to be smart and steadfast in our
efforts to elect Barack.

Obama and the Kyl-Lieberman Vote, Cont'd.
http://thegarance.com/archives/827

Posted by Garance ()

I want to somewhat belatedly respond to Kevin Drum's response to my
post on Barack Obama's missing the vote on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment
to the Defense Authorization bill, which passed the Senate 76-22, with
Obama and John McCain as the only absences. Drum, in response to my
contention that the Obama campaign's efforts to paint the amendment as
the second coming of the 2002 resolution on the use of force in Iraq
made me wonder if he'd have skipped that vote, too, writes:

"there's simply no reason to suspect Obama would have missed the most
important floor vote of the entire year if he'd been a senator in
2002. Considering that all 100 senators were there, he would have been
rather conspicuous by his absence."

Commentary: Obama Cranks It Up In KC
http://www.kctv5.com/politics/14347180/detail.html?rss=kan&psp=news

POSTED: 7:39 pm CDT October 15, 2007
UPDATED: 8:22 pm CDT October 15, 2007

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Determined volunteers turned out in a torrential
downpour Saturday morning to open a Kansas City campaign headquarters
for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

They weren't fazed by the elements or the vaunted Sen. Hillary Clinton
juggernaut. They think Obama's going to win the Iowa caucuses in
January and then win the Missouri primary on Feb. 5.

CBS's Harry Smith: 'Rock Star' Obama Needs More 'Audacity'
http://www.recycledart.org/petitions/node/6324

Tue, 10/16/2007 - 01:18 - parabiodox

On Monday's CBS "Early Show,"host Harry Smith teased an interview with
Barack Obama at the beginning of show and spoke of how the Democratic
presidential candidate is often, "...greeted as a Rock Star," by
voters.

The toughest questions asked by Smith were questions of why Obama is
behind Hillary Clinton in the polls, something Smith attributed to the
fact that, "There are people who like you a lot, who are saying we
want more of that audacity, there's not enough audacity in the
campaign."Well, we already know that Smith is in the Al Gore camp, so
finding any actual candidate as audacious would be a challenge.

Sweet blog special: 3Q Primary cash on hand/ Clinton $35 mil. Obama
$32 mil. Edwards about $12 mil. Developing as numbers are released.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/10/sweet_blog_special_3q_primary.html

WASHINGTON (AT REAGAN NATIONAL WAITING FOR DELAYED ATA FLIGHT TO
CHICAGO)--The presidential campaigns are filing third quarter Federal
Election Commission reports late on Monday.

While the money raised figures were put out by the campaigns a few
weeks ago, after the Sept. 30 end of the third quarter, other telling
figures will only be known once the reports are filed.

Meet Barack Obama
http://rfaithbarrett.blogspot.com/2007/10/meet-barack-obama.html

Barack Obama is the first major African American candidate to run for
President. A senator from Illinois, Barack Obama has come out of
Abram Lincoln's home state and he looks like he might just finished
what Lincoln started. Barack Obama might become the first ever
African American President. Obama broke into the world of national
politics at the 2006 Democratic convention, where he gave a speech
that knocked the crowd out (I should know I was watching it on TV, I
never cheered so much in my life). Ever since then he has been the
sweetheart of liberals and even a few moderate conservatives. There is
an energy surrounding the Obama campaign that has been compared to
that of Jack and Robert Kennedy's campaigns. He wins the youth vote in
every poll. He has to be Hilary Clinton's strongest opponent, with his
opposition to the Iraq war (from the beginning, he is the only one of
the major democratic candidates that can say that) and his promise of
a "new type of politics". He has become the candidate know for hope
and not using negative campaign tactics, however it has yet to be seen
if this is a winning strategy.

Obama says no to triangulation politics
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071015/ap_po/obama_clinton

By RYAN J. FOLEY, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 15, 6:03 PM ET

MADISON, Wis. - Barack Obama said Monday the nation has had enough of
"triangulation and poll-driven politics," a reference to the
presidency of Bill Clinton, the husband of his chief Democratic
rival.

Addressing a convention center rally dominated by students, Obama said
that he had spoken out against going to war in Iraq in 2002, even as
advisers told him it would be a mistake to challenge a popular
president, George W. Bush.

'Frontline' hammering the same nail -- ***** Cheney
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=57546

By Ted Cox | Daily Herald Columnist
Published: 10/15/2007 2:10 PM | Updated: 10/15/2007 2:28 PM

The PBS investigative series "Frontline" returns for a new season at 9
p.m. Tuesday on WTTW Channel 11, but if it were a network drama it
would be accused of recycling the same old plots.

The season premiere, "Cheney's Law," is the 10th documentary on Bush-
administration excesses producer Michael Kirk has done since Sept. 11,
2001, and it shows. Its argument, that Vice President ***** Cheney is
trying to expand presidential powers, seems familiar from previous
"Frontline" episodes like "The Dark Side," even if it's been given a
new, constitutional framework.

Veil of secrecy at Obama's London fundraiser
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/veil_of_secrecy_at_obamas_lond.html

By Tom Hundley

LONDON -- An unusual veil of secrecy shrouded Michelle Obama's
fundraising trip here Monday evening.

The $2,300-a-head event at the Landmark Hotel was "closed to the
press." But the hotel lobby 45 minutes before the event started?

Campaigning (and Drinking) for Obama
http://second-city.blogspot.com/2007/10/campaigning-and-drinking-for-obama.html

I spent this entire Saturday campaigning for Barack Obama in Iowa. Why
Iowa? Because they will hold the first caucus in the preliminary
election, thus "leading the way" for all the other states. Why Obama?
Well, Henriette and I went there with the group "Students for Barack
Obama", but in my case, that was simply beause there is no "Students
for Hillary Clinton" group on campus. While that is probably
considered blasphemy for as avid a Hillary supporter as I am, the
whole point was to experience US poltics and the entire grassroot
movement behind it up close and personal. Find the overview of my day
below...


Barack Obama in South Carolina
http://www.positivelybarack.com/2007/10/15/barack-obama-in-south-carolina/

Filed Under General

You have to believe in your heart that it's going to happen.

Obama reaces out to Community Connect members
http://www.901am.com/2007/obama-reaces-out-to-community-connect-members.html

By Dennis Bouchand · Posted on October 15, 2007

Community Connect Inc. (CCI) announced that presidential candidate
Barack Obama has created a member profile on each of the company's
five sites in an effort to excite and engage potential voters. Since
going live on October 5, 2007, the success of the campaign has become
evident with Senator Obama's profiles garnering over 200,000 friends.
In one week, his profile on BlackPlanet.com garnered more friends than
his MySpace and Facebook profiles.

Senator Obama's campaign approached CCI's niche social networking
communities to facilitate compelling dialogues among passionate
constituents. His presence across BlackPlanet.com, MiGente.com,
AsianAve.com, GLEE.com and Faithbase.com allows his messages to
disseminate and circulate among highly targeted niche groups, and in
turn, gives those audiences a voice on the issues that concern them.

DOES A BEAR POOP IN THE WOODS?:
http://www.tnr.com/blog/the_plank?pid=151811

Remember that one time when the Pope had a Catholic funeral? How about
when, as soon as Obama tried to more explicitly lay out the case
against her, Hillary attacked him for abandoning the "politics of
hope"? The most obvious campaign move in recorded history is now in
full swing:

The campaign of Democratic presidential front-runner Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) released a memo Friday which accuses her closest
rival, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), of "[abandoning] the politics of hope
in favor of attack politics." ... "Apparently Senator Obama's fall in
the polls has led him to abandon his pledge to change our politics and
bring people together," the unsigned memo said.

The memo focuses on a statement from Obama on Clinton's vote on a
measure that designates the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist
organization.

Obama running for Big Candidate on Campus
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/obama_running_for_big_candidat.html

by Christi Parsons

Despite gloomy warnings about the unreliability of young voters, Sen.
Barack Obama's presidential campaign continues to invest money and
time in cultivating the campus crowd.

The latest sign is today's rally at the University of Wisconsin in
Madison, where Obama spoke to more than 4,000 students and community
members today.

Welcome to Freelance Obama '08
http://freelanceobama.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/hello-world/

For those of you that don't know me, my name is Justin Allen - a 24
year-old New Yorker - who wears quite a few different hats. I'm a
sports blogger, internet company owner and active participant in
Barack Obama's movement for change in NYC.

My thoughts on this blog - if it isn't apparent enough -, will be
solely devoted to my ramblings on the experiences I have campaigning
for Barack Obama.

Obama's workers blanket Iowa
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-field_tueoct16,0,3692240.story

Democrat's lesson from '04: Organize

By Mike Dorning | Tribune national correspondent
October 16, 2007

DES MOINES - In the squat former ice rink that houses Sen. Barack
Obama's Iowa headquarters, progress is measured in ones and twos.

It's an old-fashioned counting system redolent of yesteryear's
precinct walks that rates voters based on personal contact, usually
face-to-face meetings or one-on-one conversations over the telephone.

Michelle Obama on trail in London
She is latest to tap funds in Britain

By Tom Hundley | Tribune foreign correspondent
October 16, 2007

LONDON - Bill Clinton and Rudolph Giuliani are tough acts to follow
on the campaign fundraising circuit, but Michelle Obama, wife of
Democratic candidate Barack Obama, was in the British capital Monday
evening, doing her best to tap into the increasingly lucrative vein of
ex-pat donors.

She was the featured guest at a $2,300-per-head event at a London
hotel that was closed to the press.

Obama: Energy plan is costly but needed
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007710150325

By GRANT SCHULTE
REGISTER STAFF WRITER

October 15, 2007
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Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama acknowledged Sunday
that his plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions would temporarily
raise electricity bills until new technology lowers the cost of
operating under stricter standards.

Obama, a U.S. senator from Illinois, promised to protect low-income
families with financial assistance.

How Obama is playing in Iowa
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/10/16/how_obama_is_playing_in_iowa/

By Derrick Z. Jackson, Globe Columnist | October 16, 2007

DECORAH, Iowa

AT A RECENT rally at Luther College, Brenda Meyer text messaged her
sons when Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said he
respected the rights of hunters while decrying the dumping of handguns
and assault weapons into cities. Meyer is a 46-year-old nurse from
Decorah. She is a lifelong Republican and everyone in her family is a
hunter.

She was in Decorah only because she was dragged here by a friend,
Carol Hemesath, a Democrat and a mental-health therapist. Another
Democrat nursing friend, Deb Tekippe, tried to persuade Meyer to come
along earlier in the day but Meyer turned her down.

Obama calls himself underdog
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6367.html

By: Mike Allen
Oct 16, 2007 08:35 AM EST

Cash-flush Barack Obama has a new battle cry: "Close the gap!"

In an early-morning mass e-mail with the brash subject line "Hillary's
money," the Democratic presidential candidate claims that yesterday's
Federal Election Commission reports shows him at a financial
disadvantage to Hillary Clinton.

Michelle Obama: I'm Tired of Being Afraid
http://autisticbfh.blogspot.com/2007/10/michelle-obama-im-tired-of-being-afraid.html

When we choose to get involved in any sort of political activism,
whether it's a traditional political campaign or an Internet-based
civil rights effort such as the neurodiversity movement, there is
always some degree of risk. Change is scary, in and of itself.
Publicly speaking out and taking a stand for one's beliefs and values,
for a vision of hope and possibility, can be a lot scarier. Many
people are going to react negatively because they feel threatened by
change. Some of them are going to be quite hostile at first.
Occasionally, there will be a bigot who has so little decency that he
resorts to nasty underhanded tactics such as insulting the children of
his political adversaries. Threats of violence and real-life
harassment lurk in the background, breeding a climate of fear.

Sweet blog column extra: Taking page from GOP playbook, Obama invokes
Clinton name in fund-raising appeal.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/10/sweet_blog_column_extra_taking.html

HIGHLAND PARK, ILL.-- For years, fund-raising appeals from right wing
groups and various Republican party committees invoked the name of
Hillary Rodham Clinton in order to raise campaign cash. Add Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama to the list, who is doing some
Clinton mongering to spur donations.

Early Tuesday morning--hours after the news that Clinton outraised him
in the third quarter but most important, has more primary cash on hand
(by $2.1 million)--Obama attacked Clinton for taking money from
Washington lobbyists and political action committees.

Sen Obama Campaign Announces Child Advocacy Task Force
http://www.nhinsider.com/press-releases/2007/10/16/sen-obama-campaign-announces-child-advocacy-task-force.html

Educators, policy experts, and lifetime child advocates lead
grassroots organizing efforts throughout New Hampshire

MANCHESTER , NH- Senator Barack Obama's New Hampshire campaign today
announced the membership of our Child Advocacy Task Force . This
diverse group of community leaders, educators, lifetime child
advocates, development specialists, authors and policy and research
experts will coordinate outreach and advise the campaign on issues
affecting New Hampshire children and families.

Obama Appeal: 'Close the Gap'
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/16/obama-appeal-close-the-gap/

The Democratic candidate, whose fund-raising in the third quarter
dropped below that of his chief rival Senator Clinton, issues a call
for donations.

Michelle Obama: Just Folks
http://whatdoiknow.typepad.com/what_do_i_know/2007/10/michelle-obama-.html

Last night I met Michelle Obama in London. She was very impressive.
Not in a smarty pants, I-know-more-about-policy-than-you-do way, but
in a down home, I'm-a-mom-and-I-struggle-too way. I kept thinking I
could easily see her fitting into my circle of friends, not a feeling
I've ever had with any other candidate's spouse.

She's from South-side Chicago, and she doesn't try to hide her roots.
Her accent sounds just like my neighbors in Madison, who were also
from South Chicago. I remember bonding with them right away, because
they talked like my kind of folks, solidly down-home people, who don't
hang out very often in fancy hotels, who don't temper their speech
with $100 words and meaningless platitudes. Despite the fact she has
degrees from Princeton and Harvard, and is on Vanity Fair's Best
Dressed List (she looked stunning, yet casual, in black skirt and
tight-fitting top) she really is Just Folks.

Hillary Clinton v. Barack Obama Part 1 (2005)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/15/15918/791

by DemocraticLuntz
Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 12:09:18 PM PDT

I'm not going to speculate on why they voted how they did, unless it's
clear from the Congressional Record. That is what the comments section
and many, many, many diaries are for.

I will just link to the vote, give as much detail as is necessary to
explain what the vote was on, and say how each one voted, as well as
how the rest of the Senate voted in terms of party (Joe Lieberman and
Jim Jeffords are counted as Democrats).

Hot on the Trail
http://radarmagazine.com/from-the-magazine/2007/10/2008_campaign_hillary_clinton_rudy_giuliani_barack_obama_mit.php

As the 2008 race for the White House kicks off, Radar's politics issue
gets personal with the top candidates

Washington, the old cliché goes, is Hollywood for ugly people-a mecca
for ambitious strivers who lack the cheekbones or the glamour to make
it to the silver screen. But that was before wall-to-wall media
coverage turned presidential campaigns into lengthy spectacles as
relentlessly contrived and overproduced as the Golden Globes. Managed
by fleets of pricey handlers and professional writers, candidates have
become as manufactured as movie stars: coached on every aspect of
their dress and demeanor, and supplied with perky sound-bites for
spontaneous delivery on Letterman. Which is why, as we set out to plan
the cover of Radar's Politics issue, it seemed appropriate to do a
little facile packaging of our own. What better way to underline the
ego, excess, and artifice that dominate modern politics than to borrow
a page from Vanity Fair's now-notorious 2006 Hollywood issue, which
starred Tom Ford, Keira Knightley, and Scarlett Johansson in various
states of undress?

OBAMA
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/16/413002.aspx

Obama is now going after the OTHER Clinton, NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
reports. At a rally in Madison, Wisconsin yesterday, Obama said,
"We've had enough of ... triangulation and poll-driven politics.
That's not what we need right now." The triangulation term was coined
during the Clinton Administration, when advisers to the president
urged him to split the difference between opposing views in policy
proposals.

Denial is abdicating responsibility
http://addicthead.blogspot.com/2007/10/denial-is-abdicating-responsibility.html

Last night I was invited to hear Michelle Obama's talk at a fund
raiser in London. She is articulate and an energetic speaker. However,
her pitch about America's "Intimacy Deficit" got my attention.

I thought, fantastic! At last, a "relationship change agent" who is
passionate about partnership. But as quickly as she went into this she
changed direction and spoke about desensitisation in America's
people.Its not exclusive to America. People block emotions because of
fear.And fear is up there with the war against poverty.

Obama - "Hans off" our elections! Blocks Bush nominee, crosses
Sen.Reid
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/16/91544/024

by joan reports
Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 06:38:15 AM PDT

Harry Reid had made a deal, he thought, to let a partisan Republican
lawyer from DoJ's civil rights group, Hans von Spakovsky, get a vote
on his nomination by Bush to the FEC - in a "package deal" that would
let 3 others be voted on too.

von Spakovsky is one of the most repugnant of Bush's nominees to a
position to monitor electioneering, 1 of the most influential of folks
to jumpstart an outright purge of the voter rolls, beginning in
Florida 2000.

Obama places hold on Hans von Spakovsky
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/16/111940/27

by kos
Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 08:20:23 AM PDT

Bravo, Barack.

Obama Channels Edwards
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/obama-channels-.html

16 Oct 2007 11:27 am

Repeat after me: "No more triangulation!"
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/again_obama_borrows_angle_from.php

Again, Obama Borrows Angle From Edwards

16 Oct 2007 09:20 am

It's another step in the slow assumption by Barack Obama of John
Edwards's campaign message. But hey -- it night work for Obama where
it might not work for Edwards, although the receptiveness of rank-and-
file Democrats to a process message is not yet known.

On Diplomacy, Obama's Spokesman Links Clinton With Giuliani
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/on_diplomacy_obamas_spokesman.php

16 Oct 2007 05:13 pm

Bill Burton, Barack Obama's spokesperson, e-mails a response to Rudy
Giuliani's assertion that Barack Obama, who regularly cites the
willingness of Ronald Reagan to negotiate with the Soviet Union, is,
himself, not Ronald Reagan.

E-mails Burton: "While Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton do not think
we should engage in the type of strong diplomacy practiced by Ronald
Reagan and John Kennedy, Obama does. And given the hefty fee that Hugo
Chavez's oil company paid Rudy Giuliani's firm, he apparently thinks
we shouldn't talk to Chavez, but it's fine to take his money."

***** Cheney Is Related To Barack Obama
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/dick_cheney_is_related_to_bara.php

16 Oct 2007 03:44 pm

They're eighth cousins, apparently.

Obama Raises $431,000 In Hours
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/obama_raises_431000_in_hours.php

16 Oct 2007 02:34 pm

He asked his supporters to close the gap between himself and Sen.
Clinton, and his 365,000-strong movement has responded.

Clinton's And Obama's Donors
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/clintons-and-ob.html

16 Oct 2007 03:52 pm

An interesting difference.

Obama In Iowa
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/obama-in-iowa.html

16 Oct 2007 02:39 pm

Some Republicans are interested:

"My father would be rolling in his grave if he knew I came to this
rally," Meyer said. "I hope I wasn't shmoozed but he said sometimes we
have to do the right thing because it is the right thing, even if it
is unpopular. It is time we had a president who did that."

Why People Get Mad At The MSM
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/10/why-people-get-.html

16 Oct 2007 10:15 am

One reason anyway:

A reporter in Iowa asked Obama why he doesn't wear the pin and Obama
explained that, to him, wearing the pin had come to seem like a
"substitute for true patriotism." Bravo, Senator. And then, in yet
another shining example of why the media is part of the problem, ABC's
Claire Shipman said, "TMI, too much information -- all he had to say
was, 'Don't judge me by what I wear, move on.' He played into the idea
that he's not ready for prime time