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22 Jun 2007 07:02:54 PM |
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OT: Will You Get Cancer? Do you want to know? |
Latest advances in DNA science make predisposition to diseases known.
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Will You Get Cancer?
Matthew Herper and Robert Langreth 07.02.07
Your genes may know. Supercheap DNA scanning is set to jolt medicine,
offering patients new insights--and painful choices.
For most of her adult life Kim I. Wolfe lived in fear of breast cancer.
Her mother had survived the disease at age 37. By the time she turned
32, Kim was undergoing breast exams every three months. In 2003 her
mother tested positive for a gene that dramatically raises the risk of
breast and ovarian cancer. In 2005 Kim herself took the test, six months
after the birth of the younger of her two sons.
And then she knew: She had the breast cancer gene, too. Yet she says she
felt "relieved" and "empowered" by the verdict. In an eight-hour
operation at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, she had
her breasts and ovaries removed. Her reconstructed breasts "look real"
she finds, and she has had no second thoughts. "I feel a hundred bricks
have been lifted off of me," she says. "The genetic testing is the most
wonderful thing. You can look into a crystal ball and almost see your
future Š and then do something about it."
The breast cancer gene test generates sales of $100 million a year for
Myriad Genetics, which has sold it to 150,000 women. Sales are growing
40% a year; the first TV ads are planned for the fall. It is among the
first hit products in a wave of hundreds of new DNA diagnostic tests
that will overrun medicine in the next five to ten years. Able to
foretell higher risks for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, schizophrenia
and more, these gene screens will form a new multibillion-dollar
business, promising a new kind of preemptive care and posing new ethical
questions of what patients should know and when they should know it.
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John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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22 Jun 2007 07:13:18 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-4129B8.17025422062007@news.giganews.com...
Latest advances in DNA science make predisposition to diseases known.
(Long article, excerpt below.)
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Will You Get Cancer?
Matthew Herper and Robert Langreth 07.02.07
Your genes may know. Supercheap DNA scanning is set to jolt medicine,
offering patients new insights--and painful choices.
There are problems with employers wanting to know the possible insurance
repercussions of hireing certain people. But if medical science can provide
cures for the diseases they can detect, those problems vanish.
Not entirely, of course.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Will You Get Cancer? Do you want to know? |
23 Jun 2007 01:01:23 AM |
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In article <q-ydncEFSK49-OHbnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-4129B8.17025422062007@news.giganews.com...
Latest advances in DNA science make predisposition to diseases known.
(Long article, excerpt below.)
---
Will You Get Cancer?
Matthew Herper and Robert Langreth 07.02.07
Your genes may know. Supercheap DNA scanning is set to jolt medicine,
offering patients new insights--and painful choices.
There are problems with employers wanting to know the possible insurance
repercussions of hireing certain people. But if medical science can provide
cures for the diseases they can detect, those problems vanish.
I have the same concerns. If you test positive for certain genes, will
insurance companies drop you completely or raise your rates? Or will
employers require genetic testing as part of your interview and if you
test positive for genes for certain diseases will they reject you?
Just like in the movie, "Gattaca". Science is catching up with science
fiction again.
Of course as you point out the proper use of this technology would be to
inform patients of problems that they or their children might face and
find cures for disease.
Not entirely, of course.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Will You Get Cancer? Do you want to know? |
07 Jul 2007 08:11:47 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:01:23 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <q-ydncEFSK49-OHbnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-4129B8.17025422062007@news.giganews.com...
Latest advances in DNA science make predisposition to diseases known.
(Long article, excerpt below.)
---
Will You Get Cancer?
Matthew Herper and Robert Langreth 07.02.07
Your genes may know. Supercheap DNA scanning is set to jolt medicine,
offering patients new insights--and painful choices.
There are problems with employers wanting to know the possible insurance
repercussions of hireing certain people. But if medical science can provide
cures for the diseases they can detect, those problems vanish.
I have the same concerns. If you test positive for certain genes, will
insurance companies drop you completely or raise your rates? Or will
employers require genetic testing as part of your interview and if you
test positive for genes for certain diseases will they reject you?
yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. The insurace industry is for making
money-not paying it out.
Just like in the movie, "Gattaca". Science is catching up with science
fiction again.
Of course as you point out the proper use of this technology would be to
inform patients of problems that they or their children might face and
find cures for disease.
Which is why it will be abused.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Will You Get Cancer? Do you want to know? |
08 Jul 2007 01:30:32 AM |
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In article <4be093lk4h10cnrb5umbbqre3679fmc3bv@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:01:23 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <q-ydncEFSK49-OHbnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-4129B8.17025422062007@news.giganews.com...
Latest advances in DNA science make predisposition to diseases known.
(Long article, excerpt below.)
---
Will You Get Cancer?
Matthew Herper and Robert Langreth 07.02.07
Your genes may know. Supercheap DNA scanning is set to jolt medicine,
offering patients new insights--and painful choices.
There are problems with employers wanting to know the possible insurance
repercussions of hireing certain people. But if medical science can
provide
cures for the diseases they can detect, those problems vanish.
I have the same concerns. If you test positive for certain genes, will
insurance companies drop you completely or raise your rates? Or will
employers require genetic testing as part of your interview and if you
test positive for genes for certain diseases will they reject you?
yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. The insurace industry is for making
money-not paying it out.
I don't know if you saw "Sicko" yet, but that exact point is made.
People got big bonuses for NOT paying out money. They consider money
paid to patients, even when justified, as a "loss".
Just like in the movie, "Gattaca". Science is catching up with science
fiction again.
Of course as you point out the proper use of this technology would be to
inform patients of problems that they or their children might face and
find cures for disease.
Which is why it will be abused.
True. If such information could be kept confidential for the person
requesting the test, OK, but given the greed ridden society in which we
live I know it won't be.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Will You Get Cancer? Do you want to know? |
12 Jul 2007 08:32:22 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:30:32 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <4be093lk4h10cnrb5umbbqre3679fmc3bv@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:01:23 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <q-ydncEFSK49-OHbnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@io.com>,
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-4129B8.17025422062007@news.giganews.com...
Latest advances in DNA science make predisposition to diseases known.
(Long article, excerpt below.)
---
Will You Get Cancer?
Matthew Herper and Robert Langreth 07.02.07
Your genes may know. Supercheap DNA scanning is set to jolt medicine,
offering patients new insights--and painful choices.
There are problems with employers wanting to know the possible insurance
repercussions of hireing certain people. But if medical science can
provide
cures for the diseases they can detect, those problems vanish.
I have the same concerns. If you test positive for certain genes, will
insurance companies drop you completely or raise your rates? Or will
employers require genetic testing as part of your interview and if you
test positive for genes for certain diseases will they reject you?
yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. The insurace industry is for making
money-not paying it out.
I don't know if you saw "Sicko" yet, but that exact point is made.
I haven't and have no intention to.
People got big bonuses for NOT paying out money. They consider money
paid to patients, even when justified, as a "loss".
Always.
Just like in the movie, "Gattaca". Science is catching up with science
fiction again.
Of course as you point out the proper use of this technology would be to
inform patients of problems that they or their children might face and
find cures for disease.
Which is why it will be abused.
True. If such information could be kept confidential for the person
requesting the test, OK, but given the greed ridden society in which we
live I know it won't be.
Of course not. In this 'Christian Nation' Christians don't follow what
'Jesus' commands via the ten suggestions and such.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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