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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jez"
Date: 30 Aug 2004 07:41:10 AM
Object: OT:Oh the irony..Cardinal's anger at sex lessons
Cardinal's anger at sex lessons
http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,5500,1293552,00.html
Kirsty Scott
Monday August 30, 2004
The Guardian
The leader of Scotland's Roman Catholics yesterday signalled the start
of a massive campaign against the Scottish executive over sex education,
accusing ministers of favouring programmes that are akin to
"state-sponsored sexual abuse" of children.
Cardinal Keith O'Brien said the bitter row over the abolition of section
28 in Scotland would pale into insignificance as church leaders, parents
and teachers battled with the executive over a new sexual health
strategy, which he called "one of the biggest challenges to the morality
of our nation in a generation".
But the first minister, Jack McConnell, has rejected the cardinal's
claims and dismissed his concerns as misplaced.
Writing in the Sunday Times, Cardinal O'Brien said the executive's
proposals would mean sex education being given to children as young as
three and four, and contraceptives and abortions being made available to
teenagers without the knowledge of their parents.
"I fear the passions ignited by the section 28 debate could be a mere
flicker compared with the protests of parents determined to preserve
their children's innocence and pro tect their childhood," he said.
In a radio interview yesterday, however, Mr McConnell rejected the
cardinal's claims.
"I have a great respect for Cardinal O'Brien," said Mr McConnell. "He
mentions the morning-after pill being given to teenagers. But we have
made it absolutely clear that must not happen in schools to those who
are under the age of 16 and that is a policy that is being properly
administered across Scotland. He also suggests we are going to have sex
education for under-fives which I can absolutely guarantee is not going
to happen."
The executive is nearing the end of a consultation process on a sexual
health strategy. Scotland has one of the highest rates of teenage
pregnancies in western Europe, and sexually transmitted diseases are on
the increase.
In his article, Cardinal O'Brien said there was a sinister agenda in
some health and education services to sexualise children, including
getting graphic sex education materials into primary and even nursery
schools.
A spokeswoman for the Scottish executive said there had never been any
intention to aim sex education at inappropriate groups.
--
Jez
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of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT:Oh the irony..Cardinal's anger at sex lessons 31 Aug 2004 01:18:32 AM
In article <4133208f$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:

Cardinal's anger at sex lessons

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,5500,1293552,00.html

Kirsty Scott
Monday August 30, 2004
The Guardian

The leader of Scotland's Roman Catholics yesterday signalled the start
of a massive campaign against the Scottish executive over sex education,
accusing ministers of favouring programmes that are akin to
"state-sponsored sexual abuse" of children.

He probably thinks that "sexual abuse of children" is the Church's job.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
.

User: "anne marie hovgaard"

Title: Re: OT:Oh the irony..Cardinal's anger at sex lessons 31 Aug 2004 06:53:52 AM
Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:<4133208f$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>...

Cardinal's anger at sex lessons

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,5500,1293552,00.html

Kirsty Scott
Monday August 30, 2004
The Guardian

The leader of Scotland's Roman Catholics yesterday signalled the start
of a massive campaign against the Scottish executive over sex education,
accusing ministers of favouring programmes that are akin to
"state-sponsored sexual abuse" of children.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien said the bitter row over the abolition of section
28 in Scotland would pale into insignificance as church leaders, parents
and teachers battled with the executive over a new sexual health
strategy, which he called "one of the biggest challenges to the morality
of our nation in a generation".

But the first minister, Jack McConnell, has rejected the cardinal's
claims and dismissed his concerns as misplaced.

Writing in the Sunday Times, Cardinal O'Brien said the executive's
proposals would mean sex education being given to children as young as
three and four, and contraceptives and abortions being made available to
teenagers without the knowledge of their parents.

"I fear the passions ignited by the section 28 debate could be a mere
flicker compared with the protests of parents determined to preserve
their children's innocence and pro tect their childhood," he said.

In a radio interview yesterday, however, Mr McConnell rejected the
cardinal's claims.

"I have a great respect for Cardinal O'Brien," said Mr McConnell. "He
mentions the morning-after pill being given to teenagers. But we have
made it absolutely clear that must not happen in schools to those who
are under the age of 16 and that is a policy that is being properly
administered across Scotland. He also suggests we are going to have sex
education for under-fives which I can absolutely guarantee is not going
to happen."

That's a pity. Kids should be told things like: it's OK to touch your
sex (but not at the table during dinner :P), but other people
-including other kids- don't have the right to touch your sex just
because _they_ like it, when you don't. And grown-ups aren't allowed
to have little kids as girlfriends or boyfriends. And if someone hurts
you, tell your parents or teachers. Especially if they tell you it's a
secret.
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