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OT:Things you didn't know about water |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6124627/?GT1=5882
Things you didn’t know about water
For starters, it’s the same as it was 3 billion years ago
By Philipp Harper
Comedian W.C. Fields famously rejected it as the medium in which fish
conduct their reproductive activities, but he couldn’t escape it
entirely.
After all, it comprised more than 60 percent of his body, 70 percent
of his brain, 80 percent of his blood and nearly 90 percent of his
lungs.
What “it” is, is water.
Every living thing needs water to live — humans, who can go a month
without food, die after just a week without their H2O — and every
living thing contains it to a significant degree. Water makes up 75
percent of the average chicken and tree, for example, and 80 percent
of a pineapple.
To the extent that it exists outside of us, it is very, very old. The
same amount of water exists today on Earth as existed 3 billion years
ago, and, thanks to the “water cycle,” it’s the same water, moving
unendingly from sea to clouds to rain to earth and back again.
Could the raindrops that tomorrow run the mascara of a fashionable
New Yorker be the same drops that once bathed the unruly hair of a
Neanderthal man? Well, yes.
Water, water, everywhere ...
Water is also ubiquitous and abundant. Consider:
# About 70 percent of the Earth is covered by water.
# The total water supply of the planet is estimated at 326 million
cubic miles. (One cubic mile of water equals more than 1 trillion
gallons.)
# If all of the planet's water was poured in the United States, it
would cover all the land in an ocean with a depth of 90 miles.
# An estimated 3,100 cubic miles of water is in the planet's
atmosphere at any one time, mostly in the form of vapor. If it were
all dumped in the form of rain, the entire surface of the earth would
be covered in one inch of water. (In the “Did you know?” category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states — liquid, solid and gas.)
# The continental United States receives anywhere from 3.5 to 4 cubic
miles — 12 trillion gallons — of precipitation each day.
That’s a lot of water to be sure. However, when it comes to the fresh
water needed by humans and other creatures to survive, Samuel Taylor
Coleridge seems to have got it about right when he wrote, “Water,
water, everywhere, but not a drop to drink.”
Fully 97 percent of the Earth’s total water supply is the salt
variety found in oceans and seas. As for the fresh 3 percent, most is
stored in the 7 million cubic miles found frozen in glaciers and ice
caps; another 2 million cubic miles is underground, most within one-
half mile of the surface. The most available fresh water supply — in
lakes, inland seas and rivers — accounts for only 60,000 cubic miles.
Humankind’s great thirst
Still, this relative lack of freshwater does not prevent the human
race, and especially its U.S. denizens, from using water with scant
regard for conservation.
Americans use more than 400 billion gallons per day of both surface
and ground water, much of it consumed in and around the home. Some
facts to consider, courtesy of the Environmental Protection Agency,
next time you’re brushing your teeth or listening to a leaky faucet
in the middle of the night:
# The average American uses about 160 gallons of water a day at a
cost of 27 cents.
# Two-thirds of the water used in an average home is used in the
bathroom, much of it consumed by the toilet, which requires four to
six gallons per flush.
# The average person uses 2 gallons of water per day to brush his
teeth.
# A 10-minute shower uses about 55 gallons of water.
# Lawn watering accounts for at least 50 percent of a typical
household’s water consumption.
# Automatic dishwashers require approximately 9 to 12 gallons of
water per load of dishes, compared with the 20 gallons required to do
the same dishes by hand.
# If every household in America had a faucet that dripped once each
second, 928 million gallons of water a day would leak away.
Industry, too, likes its water, expending 39,000 gallons to
manufacture the average domestic automobile and 300 million gallons
to provide American newspapers with the newsprint they need for a
single day. And the next time you enjoy a Quarter Pounder at
McDonald’s, realize that it took about a gallon of water to process
your burger.
Though the water supply is static, the demands on it are increasing
with population and all the associated human activities. But as long
as an 8-ounce glass of water can be refilled 15,000 times for what it
costs to buy a six-pack of soda, don’t expect anyone to voluntarily
go without it.
Philipp Harper is a freelance writer living in south Georgia.
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10 Dec 2004 01:40:32 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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10 Dec 2004 01:46:56 PM |
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"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
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www.hyperbooks.com
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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10 Dec 2004 02:13:56 PM |
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Jim07D4" |
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10 Dec 2004 04:16:22 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
More properly, water is one of the few substances that can exist in
all three phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the
Earth’s atmosphere.
http://snowball.millersville.edu/~adecaria/ESCI341/esci341_lesson13_phasechanges.html
A unique feature of water is that the solid-to-liquid transition line
(in the phase diagram) slopes upward to the left, instead of to the
right. This is why if you compress an ice cube it melts.
And it is why ice skaters don't really skate on ice. The pressure of
their skates compresses the ice, making a thin, temporary film of
water on the blade.
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
The boiling point of Copper is 2567 º C.
http://www.noblemind.com/search.exe?keyword=Copper+Boiling+Point&var=2
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
The melting point of Hydrogen is -259.14 º C .
http://www.noblemind.com/search.exe?keyword=Hydrogen+Melting+Point&var=2
Jim07D4
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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10 Dec 2004 11:36:58 PM |
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"Jim07D4" <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in
news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
More properly, water is one of the few substances that can exist in
all three phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the
Earth's atmosphere.
Yeah, I know that's almost surely what the original author meant, but
still.... it could give some folks the wrong idea. It's not like we need to
be tempting the already shaky foundations of science education, you know?
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| User: "Jim07D4" |
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11 Dec 2004 12:51:07 AM |
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"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> said:
"Jim07D4" <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in
news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
More properly, water is one of the few substances that can exist in
all three phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the
Earth's atmosphere.
Yeah, I know that's almost surely what the original author meant, but
still.... it could give some folks the wrong idea. It's not like we need to
be tempting the already shaky foundations of science education, you know?
Soon enough, the test item will be "Which substance was intelligently
designed to be one of the few substances that can exist in all three
phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the Earth's
atmosphere? (a) manna (b) the soul (c) water (d) Adam's rib.
Jim07D4
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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28 Dec 2004 02:22:06 PM |
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Jim07D4 wrote:
< snip >
Soon enough, the test item will be "Which substance was intelligently
designed to be one of the few substances that can exist in all three
phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the Earth's
atmosphere? (a) manna (b) the soul (c) water (d) Adam's rib.
I've seen creationists on TV claiming that water *must* have been
designed because of the unique way its density decreases as it freezes,
making ice float. If not for this miracle, all life would perish every
time a lake froze, cutting off the food supply from the animals.
Then they switched right over to the "obvious engineering" of the
giraffe's neck....
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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28 Dec 2004 03:14:08 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:22:06 -0600, Tukla Ratte
<tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote:
Jim07D4 wrote:
< snip >
Soon enough, the test item will be "Which substance was intelligently
designed to be one of the few substances that can exist in all three
phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the Earth's
atmosphere? (a) manna (b) the soul (c) water (d) Adam's rib.
I've seen creationists on TV claiming that water *must* have been
designed because of the unique way its density decreases as it freezes,
making ice float. If not for this miracle, all life would perish every
time a lake froze, cutting off the food supply from the animals.
And?
What they forget is that if things were different we wouldn't be here
to make that observation. Maybe some other life form would. Maybe
nothing would.
It does not prove anything at all - just reflects their doctrinal
presumptions.
Then they switched right over to the "obvious engineering" of the
giraffe's neck....
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Dec 2004 10:06:48 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:51:07 GMT, Jim07D4 <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> said:
"Jim07D4" <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in
news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
More properly, water is one of the few substances that can exist in
all three phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the
Earth's atmosphere.
Yeah, I know that's almost surely what the original author meant, but
still.... it could give some folks the wrong idea. It's not like we need to
be tempting the already shaky foundations of science education, you know?
Soon enough, the test item will be "Which substance was intelligently
designed to be one of the few substances that can exist in all three
phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the Earth's
atmosphere? (a) manna (b) the soul (c) water (d) Adam's rib.
e) Superstitious stupidity
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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10 Dec 2004 04:35:29 PM |
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Jim07D4 wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" < > said:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
More properly, water is one of the few substances that can exist in
all three phases at the temperatures and pressures found in the
Earth’s atmosphere.
http://snowball.millersville.edu/~adecaria/ESCI341/esci341_lesson13_phasechanges.html
A unique feature of water is that the solid-to-liquid transition line
(in the phase diagram) slopes upward to the left, instead of to the
right. This is why if you compress an ice cube it melts.
And it is why ice skaters don't really skate on ice. The pressure of
their skates compresses the ice, making a thin, temporary film of
water on the blade.
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
The boiling point of Copper is 2567 º C.
http://www.noblemind.com/search.exe?keyword=Copper+Boiling+Point&var=2
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
The melting point of Hydrogen is -259.14 º C .
http://www.noblemind.com/search.exe?keyword=Hydrogen+Melting+Point&var=2
Jim07D4
Thanks for the sites.
Learning more each day. Hehehehe, melting at -259C, damn cold for melting.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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10 Dec 2004 03:16:03 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in
news:amcp82-mmc1.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in
news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn- 1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please.
That would be "cite," retard. Site is a place. Cite is a short form of
citation, or reference.
I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
http://www.noblemind.com/search.exe?keyword=Copper+Boiling+Point&var=2
The boiling point of Copper is 2567 º C
All things boil when they get hot enough. Boiling means going from liquid
to gas. (Or solid directly to gas, for some things, at certain atmospheric
pressures.)
This is high school chemistry, retard. Hell, I learned that in grade
school. Did you graduate 6th grade?
And solid hydrogen would be very useful.
It's been done. Requires low pressure (0.07 atm) and very low temps (14
degrees Kelvin), but it's been done.
Do you have an article on
solid hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using,
actual solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
http://www.tvu.com/EngPropsSH2Web.htm
Fucking moron.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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10 Dec 2004 03:54:29 PM |
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" < > wrote in
news:amcp82-mmc1.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in
news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn- 1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please.
That would be "cite," retard. Site is a place. Cite is a short form of
citation, or reference.
Hey, ***** for brains, I knew what I was asking for. No need to be a
***** about it. That is, unless it is your usual attitude.
I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
http://www.noblemind.com/search.exe?keyword=Copper+Boiling+Point&var=2
See, that's all I wanted. Thank you.
The boiling point of Copper is 2567 º C
All things boil when they get hot enough. Boiling means going from liquid
to gas. (Or solid directly to gas, for some things, at certain atmospheric
pressures.)
This is high school chemistry, retard. Hell, I learned that in grade
school. Did you graduate 6th grade?
Arrogant snobs, such as yourself, jump to conclusions with out evidence
of fact.
Oh, and I never took chemistry. It did not interest me at the time.
But fucking condescending jerks such as yourself don't care about little
matters like that.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful.
It's been done. Requires low pressure (0.07 atm) and very low temps (14
degrees Kelvin), but it's been done.
That would be frozen. Not really solid. Mercury can be made to appear
solid to, if it's made cold enough. However, since mercury is a metal,
this kind of action would be expected. And yes, mercury can also become
a gas, if heated enough. It was one of the dangers of early
photography, and of hat making.
Do you have an article on
solid hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using,
actual solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
http://www.tvu.com/EngPropsSH2Web.htm
Fucking moron.
Arrogant self centered *****.
Simply amazing the attitude some people pop off with, when others ask
for information.
And now that I have what I asked for, you may go back to admiring you
arrogant greatness in the mirror. I will not bother your ego stroking
session any further.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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10 Dec 2004 04:59:22 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in
news:riip82-2ad1.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in
news:amcp82-mmc1.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in
news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn- 1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please.
That would be "cite," retard. Site is a place. Cite is a short form
of citation, or reference.
Hey, ***** for brains, I knew what I was asking for.
Not the point. How am *I* supposed to know, if you can't communicate?
No need to be a
***** about it. That is, unless it is your usual attitude.
It is. I'm an *****. It says so on my character sheet.
I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
http://www.noblemind.com/search.exe?keyword=Copper+Boiling+Point&var=2
See, that's all I wanted. Thank you.
Grade school science.
The boiling point of Copper is 2567 º C
All things boil when they get hot enough. Boiling means going from
liquid to gas. (Or solid directly to gas, for some things, at certain
atmospheric pressures.)
This is high school chemistry, retard. Hell, I learned that in grade
school. Did you graduate 6th grade?
Arrogant snobs, such as yourself, jump to conclusions with out
evidence of fact.
Other than the facts provided. Grade school science, 'tard-boy.
Oh, and I never took chemistry.
What has happened to education in this country? I couldn't graduate from
high school without it.
It did not interest me at the time.
But fucking condescending jerks such as yourself don't care about
little matters like that.
Indeed. My goal, here, is to slap idiots like you upside the head until
you're not an idiot any more. Or at least learn to STFU and stop proving
you're an idiot.
(If you want an easy example of something that can be solid, liquid and
gas, put some butter in a frying pan. First, it will melt. Then, it will
boil. Duh.)
And solid hydrogen would be very useful.
It's been done. Requires low pressure (0.07 atm) and very low temps
(14 degrees Kelvin), but it's been done.
That would be frozen. Not really solid.
You're a retard. Frozen *is* solid, as in "frozen solid." Frozen is what
"solid" *means*, retard.
Mercury can be made to
appear solid to, if it's made cold enough.
Yes, mercury freezes. Freezes solid.
However, since mercury is
a metal, this kind of action would be expected. And yes, mercury can
also become a gas, if heated enough. It was one of the dangers of
early photography, and of hat making.
Yes, mercury, like all matter, can be solid, liquid, or gas. Duh. Moron.
Do you have an article on
solid hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using,
actual solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
http://www.tvu.com/EngPropsSH2Web.htm
Fucking moron.
Arrogant self centered *****.
Retard.
Simply amazing the attitude some people pop off with, when others ask
for information.
It's information that anyone who isn't literally mentally retarded should
have learned in grade school.
And now that I have what I asked for, you may go back to admiring you
arrogant greatness in the mirror. I will not bother your ego stroking
session any further.
Good riddance. Retard.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" < > wrote in
Good riddance. Retard.
No problem you ***** sucking pile of pig swill.
PLONK
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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10 Dec 2004 05:34:02 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in news:mtnp82-
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in
Good riddance. Retard.
No problem you ***** sucking pile of pig swill.
PLONK
Just can't resist getting in the last word, eh? You're gonna be *fun*, food
product.
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www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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10 Dec 2004 11:33:40 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
-snip-
And solid hydrogen would be very useful.
It's been done. Requires low pressure (0.07 atm) and very low temps (14
degrees Kelvin), but it's been done.
That would be frozen. Not really solid.
"Frozen" results in solidity. Ice is the solid state of water. Virtually all
compounds become solid under the proper conditions. That's the point.
Mercury can be made to appear solid to, if it's made cold enough.
Pretty much anything can, but it doesn't "appear" solid. It is. Just like
water can be made to appear solid if it's made cold enough.
However, since mercury is a metal, this kind of action would be expected.
Since mercury is anything, this kind of action would be expected.
And yes, mercury can also become a gas, if heated enough. It was one of
the dangers of early photography, and of hat making.
Do you have an article on
solid hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using,
actual solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
http://www.tvu.com/EngPropsSH2Web.htm
Do you mind if I ask a question? (I want to distance myself from the
rudeness that has gone on in answering you by others)-- Don't take this the
wrong way- I'm not faulting you- but how did you get through grade school or
even high school without basic chemistry?
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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11 Dec 2004 10:57:25 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:33:40 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
-snip-
And solid hydrogen would be very useful.
It's been done. Requires low pressure (0.07 atm) and very low temps (14
degrees Kelvin), but it's been done.
That would be frozen. Not really solid.
"Frozen" results in solidity. Ice is the solid state of water. Virtually all
compounds become solid under the proper conditions. That's the point.
Unless they are given the chance to crystalise of course through slow
cooling. So we can get water in either Crystal form (snow) or in ice
form (hail) depending on changes in air pressure and temperature as
it falls,
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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11 Dec 2004 02:11:37 PM |
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Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in
news:d09mr01jmm3hep3agfj6s6vraurgd9h8go@4ax.com:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:33:40 -0500, "Mark Stahl"
<stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in message
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No 33 Secretary wrote:
-snip-
And solid hydrogen would be very useful.
It's been done. Requires low pressure (0.07 atm) and very low temps
(14 degrees Kelvin), but it's been done.
That would be frozen. Not really solid.
"Frozen" results in solidity. Ice is the solid state of water.
Virtually all compounds become solid under the proper conditions.
That's the point.
Unless they are given the chance to crystalise of course through slow
cooling. So we can get water in either Crystal form (snow) or in ice
form (hail) depending on changes in air pressure and temperature as
it falls,
Both are solid. Fucking retards. Everywhere. I'm surrounded by fucking
retards.
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11 Dec 2004 02:40:30 PM |
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No 33 Secretary <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> said:
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Both are solid. Fucking retards. Everywhere. I'm surrounded by fucking
retards.
You choose your associates.
Jim07D4
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12 Dec 2004 10:33:18 AM |
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Jim07D4 <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote in
news:1lmmr0p3fj82965lpotnlacd291ju7d81n@4ax.com:
No 33 Secretary <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> said:
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Both are solid. Fucking retards. Everywhere. I'm surrounded by fucking
retards.
You choose your associates.
And play with my food.
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www.hyperbooks.com
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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10 Dec 2004 03:28:01 PM |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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10 Dec 2004 04:27:01 PM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
I live in Arizona, where we have some of the worlds most productive
copper mines. The refining of copper, has been an industry here that
has lasted almost longer then the state has been a state. I've heard of
the large number of "gases" that come off the smelters when copper is
refined, but I have never heard of them talking about copper gas. Other
gases, sure, and very dangerous ones as well.
My main reason for asking is that copper, as a great conductor of
electricity, I can think of a few applications where copper gas could be
quite useful. Especially at high voltage, and where rapid cooling of
the conductor is required.
OH, and thank you for taking the time to answer in a polite manner.
Unlike some one else in this news group.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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10 Dec 2004 05:10:20 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
Yes, above its BP at 760 mm Hg barometric pressure, it will be a true
gas. Containing it in something will be a challenge. ;-) Possibly in a
tungsten container.
See also, the definitive answers, at:
http://www.lenntech.com/Periodic-chart-elements/melting-point.htm
http://www.lenntech.com/Periodic-chart-elements/boiling-point.htm
Although there is a typo there, for the BP of potassium.
I live in Arizona, where we have some of the worlds most productive
copper mines. The refining of copper, has been an industry here that
has lasted almost longer then the state has been a state. I've heard of
the large number of "gases" that come off the smelters when copper is
refined, but I have never heard of them talking about copper gas. Other
gases, sure, and very dangerous ones as well.
Copper is smelted at only 1100 degrees so it won't be in the gas phase
during smelting. It will be a liquid when it is extracted from the
ore.
http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/335coppersmelter.html
Lots of gases will come off in spite of the environmental controls.;-)
My main reason for asking is that copper, as a great conductor of
electricity, I can think of a few applications where copper gas could be
quite useful. Especially at high voltage, and where rapid cooling of
the conductor is required.
Ionized copper gas would conduct electricity, like ionized neon gas in
a neon light. It would be interesting to know how much voltage is
needed to ionize copper gas, but above that, it would conduct. It
would have to be in a container that was nonconducting, like perhaps
carbon.
Jim07D4
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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11 Dec 2004 10:43:51 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:10:20 GMT, Jim07D4 <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
Yes, above its BP at 760 mm Hg barometric pressure, it will be a true
gas. Containing it in something will be a challenge. ;-) Possibly in a
tungsten container.
Yes I should have mentioned that the temperatures referred above
was at standard atmospheric pressure. You could put you hand
quite safetly into a pan of boiling water at the Summit of Everest
and not get scalded, simply because at that height it boils at a
lower temperature. Bad place for a good cup of tea, Everest.
I can see no possible reason why anybody would want a copper
gas particularly as it would be so expensive to achieve.
IIRC correctly don't they use spectography to detect whatever
gases there are in stars from their characterisic spectra. I
understand we have detected iron in the suns atmosphere
for example.
I suppose that they must have at some point built special
apparatus to gassify samples of metal, then passed light through
them to determine their spectra. It is a long time since I
attended school science classes so memory of these things
is a bit dim.
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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11 Dec 2004 02:37:20 PM |
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Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> said:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:10:20 GMT, Jim07D4 <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
Yes, above its BP at 760 mm Hg barometric pressure, it will be a true
gas. Containing it in something will be a challenge. ;-) Possibly in a
tungsten container.
Yes I should have mentioned that the temperatures referred above
was at standard atmospheric pressure. You could put you hand
quite safetly into a pan of boiling water at the Summit of Everest
and not get scalded, simply because at that height it boils at a
lower temperature. Bad place for a good cup of tea, Everest.
I can see no possible reason why anybody would want a copper
gas particularly as it would be so expensive to achieve.
IIRC correctly don't they use spectography to detect whatever
gases there are in stars from their characterisic spectra. I
understand we have detected iron in the suns atmosphere
for example.
Yes, nonionized atoms of gaseous elements in a star's atmosphere
absorb characteristic frequencies of light. We can replicate the
phenomena on earth with the same characteristic results for the
elements.
I did my graduate work in atomic spectroscopy, BTW.
I suppose that they must have at some point built special
apparatus to gassify samples of metal, then passed light through
them to determine their spectra. It is a long time since I
attended school science classes so memory of these things
is a bit dim.
In an atomic absorption spectrophotometer, you beam a light from a
lamp that has an anode and a cathode (actually a little cup) that has
some of the element of interest in it (say, iron), through a flame,
into which you are squirting a dissolved sample of the thing you
suspect contains, say, iron. The amount of light* that is given off by
the incandescent iron and absorbed by the atomized iron in the flame
is measurable by squirting in standard known solutions and comparing
the signals.
*the "light" might be in the UV, and not visible to humans.
Jim07D4
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11 Dec 2004 03:56:27 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 20:37:20 GMT, Jim07D4 <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote:
Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> said:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:10:20 GMT, Jim07D4 <Jim07D4@nospam.net> wrote:
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> said:
Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
Yes, above its BP at 760 mm Hg barometric pressure, it will be a true
gas. Containing it in something will be a challenge. ;-) Possibly in a
tungsten container.
Yes I should have mentioned that the temperatures referred above
was at standard atmospheric pressure. You could put you hand
quite safetly into a pan of boiling water at the Summit of Everest
and not get scalded, simply because at that height it boils at a
lower temperature. Bad place for a good cup of tea, Everest.
I can see no possible reason why anybody would want a copper
gas particularly as it would be so expensive to achieve.
IIRC correctly don't they use spectography to detect whatever
gases there are in stars from their characterisic spectra. I
understand we have detected iron in the suns atmosphere
for example.
Yes, nonionized atoms of gaseous elements in a star's atmosphere
absorb characteristic frequencies of light. We can replicate the
phenomena on earth with the same characteristic results for the
elements.
I did my graduate work in atomic spectroscopy, BTW.
I suppose that they must have at some point built special
apparatus to gassify samples of metal, then passed light through
them to determine their spectra. It is a long time since I
attended school science classes so memory of these things
is a bit dim.
In an atomic absorption spectrophotometer, you beam a light from a
lamp that has an anode and a cathode (actually a little cup) that has
some of the element of interest in it (say, iron), through a flame,
into which you are squirting a dissolved sample of the thing you
suspect contains, say, iron. The amount of light* that is given off by
the incandescent iron and absorbed by the atomized iron in the flame
is measurable by squirting in standard known solutions and comparing
the signals.
*the "light" might be in the UV, and not visible to humans.
Thanks
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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10 Dec 2004 05:02:08 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in
news:sfkp82-ihd1.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com:
Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in
news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn- 1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the
gases given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on
solid hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using,
actual solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
Yes, retard. That's what boiling does. It turns a liquid in to a gas.
Jesus, you are *stupid*.
I live in Arizona, where we have some of the worlds most productive
copper mines. The refining of copper, has been an industry here that
has lasted almost longer then the state has been a state. I've heard
of the large number of "gases" that come off the smelters when copper
is refined, but I have never heard of them talking about copper gas.
Other gases, sure, and very dangerous ones as well.
That would be because turning the copper in to a gas would be
counterproductive in the commercial smelting of copper. You turn everything
else mixed with it to a gas, and all that remains is the copper.
My main reason for asking is that copper, as a great conductor of
electricity, I can think of a few applications where copper gas could
be quite useful. Especially at high voltage, and where rapid cooling
of the conductor is required.
If you can handle 2500+ degrees Celsuis. Except copper gas almost certainly
has different electrical properties from solid (or even liquid) copper.
Most things do.
OH, and thank you for taking the time to answer in a polite manner.
Unlike some one else in this news group.
Yeah, I'm an *****. Which is far better than being a 'tard.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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10 Dec 2004 11:45:33 PM |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:27:01 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> said in alt.atheism:
Les Hellawell wrote:
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
Yes, that's what "boils" means - "turns from liquid to gas".
I live in Arizona, where we have some of the worlds most productive
copper mines. The refining of copper, has been an industry here that
has lasted almost longer then the state has been a state. I've heard of
the large number of "gases" that come off the smelters when copper is
refined, but I have never heard of them talking about copper gas.
Because the amount of gaseous copper that comes from the smelting
process (in which copper is in its liquid state) is minuscule.
My main reason for asking is that copper, as a great conductor of
electricity, I can think of a few applications where copper gas could be
quite useful. Especially at high voltage, and where rapid cooling of
the conductor is required.
The practical problems FAR outweigh the benefits.
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| Title: Re: OT:Things you didn't know about water |
13 Dec 2004 10:02:58 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:27:01 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
Les Hellawell wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:13:56 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
No 33 Secretary wrote:
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> wrote in news:zqednVBxMaZ8ZyTcRVn-
1w@giganews.com:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
In fact, pretty much *all* matter can.
Site please. I'd be very interested in gaseous copper. Not the gases
given off when copper is melted, actual copper gas.
And solid hydrogen would be very useful. Do you have an article on solid
hydrogen I could read? Not that liquid stuff they keep using, actual
solid, in a block, transportable hydrogen.
Checking a basic encyclopaedia (Encarta):
Cooper melts at 1083 and boils at 2567
Hydrogen melts at -259.2 and boils at -252.77
(numbers in degrees Centigrade)
But is it actually a gas, at that point? Copper that is.
I live in Arizona, where we have some of the worlds most productive
copper mines. The refining of copper, has been an industry here that
has lasted almost longer then the state has been a state.
Keewenaw County (horn of the Upper Penninsula of Michigan) is also
called "The Copper Country" although the copper mines have been pretty
much shut down since the late 1960's.
I believe the same state of affairs exists with the iron mines of the
western U.P. as well since the late 1970's.
Sounds like the copper mines of Arizona are still in operation. Are
they?
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| User: "nJb" |
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| Title: Re: OT:Things you didn't know about water |
11 Dec 2004 02:45:34 PM |
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Mark Stahl wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:1102693481.05a999e3f846b665ce2f21943c56af13@teranews...
(In the "Did you know?" category:
Water is the only natural substance that can exist in all three
states - liquid, solid and gas.)
Ummmm..... no it isn't.
Perhaps "does exist on earth in all three states" would have been
correct. Are there others? I'll ponder that for a while.
Jack
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