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User: "Human Rights"
Date: 08 Jan 2005 06:02:29 AM
Object: Our Fight is not with Jews, Christians, Muslims, or Mormons
A Call for Action letter from Human Rights Activist and Author of "The
Gospel Writers."
----
Our Fight is not with Jews, Christians, Muslims, or Mormons
by Clint Clark January 7, 2005.
For all of us non-believers and doubters on the planet Earth, here's the
problem we're facing and we need your help to solve it:
We will not be able to change what has happened to our species, until we
find a way around the legal issues related to the believe in a god. Trying
to prove that no god exists is unproductive at this time, since the current
and more pressing issue is: "Why there has to be a god." We need you to
focus your efforts on this issue first; and here's why: It begins with the
History of Law, more so than the Origin of Religion. Too many Atheists and
Free Thinkers make the mistake that the Origin of Religion is about
spirituality. The Origin of Religion is synonymous with the History of Law,
which is researchable and verifiable.
Shortly after agriculture began, a very small minority of people realized
that agriculture, or more accurately stated, a predictable food source,
could make someone very wealthy if they came up with a way to take advantage
of this new invention; especially since many cultures had begun to build
permanent settlements in the area of southern Turkey and northern Iraq while
Hunter-Gatherer cultures began to decline. Kinships became the logical
social tool to take advantage of this new invention.
Although armies were used to conquer a region, the people in that region far
out numbered the members of the conquering army. It would have been
impossible to police the entire population and keep them compliant with and
submissive to the new kinship without some kind of social tool. So how does
one logically convince a large population that they have a Legal Right to
steal their land, their food, their water, along with all of their other
land related resources, and even enslave some of the population? What about
using a social tool already accepted by the population, one that was is use
prior to kinships, during the time of democratic assemblies? What about
locally practiced religions? This is when religion as a whole, makes its
first significant change as "Lord" gods appear, (one god over a group of
local gods), using a Patriarchy Legal System. In a Patriarchy Legal System,
the Father of the family makes all the decisions and has the accepted right
to give away property. And of course, you cannot give away something that
was not yours to give in the first place. If you made something, you
certainly have the Legal Right to give it away, if you so desire. You also
have the Legal Right to do whatever you want with it. According to Jews,
Christians, Muslims, and Mormons, who made the Earth? If you made the Earth,
it is acceptable for you to give some of it away, as we find in the case
history of King Cyrus of Persia, according to the Jews. From Ezra Chapter 1
verses 2-4 in the Old Testament (The Douay-Rheims Bible):
"Thus saith Cyrus king of the Persians: The Lord the God of heaven hath
given to me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he hath charged me to build
him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judea. Who is there among you of all
his people? His God be with him. Let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in
Judea, and build the house of the Lord the God of Israel: he is the God that
is in Jerusalem. And let all the rest in all places wheresoever they dwell,
help him every man from his place, with silver and gold, and goods, and
cattle, besides that which they offer freely to the temple of God, which is
in Jerusalem."
At this time in history, if you needed the Legal Authority to accomplish
something, without allowing the population to vote that Legal Authority into
your hands, it was fictitiously given to you by a god. This Legal Authority
became know as Divine Right. This hoax had to be a collaborative effort by
not only by the kinship and the Ruling Class, but also by the religious
leaders. Why do we know this was a hoax? Because King Cyrus of Persia never
said what the Jews claim he said. What King Cyrus of Persia said was
recorded on a clay cylinder called Cyrus' Cylinder and is currently stored
at the British Museum in London, England. If you do not live in London,
transcripts of what he said are published on the Internet. This is just one
of many examples of how the History of Law and the Origin of Religion are
inseparable. If you were not already aware of this falsification in earlier
version of the Old Testament, then this is your first taste of why there is
a god today or more correctly stated, "Why there has to be a god."
Our fight is not with Jews, Christians, Muslims, or Mormons. It never has
been, nor should we waste our time and resources on discrediting the
existence of their imaginary supernatural surrogate parent figure; what they
consider to be a god. Our fight is with "the repression of historical facts"
related to (1) land ownership, which includes the related ownership of
important resources such as water, minerals, oil and natural gas, food
resources, building materials, etc., (2) property taxes related to land
ownership, (3) hereditary monarchies that evolved from kingships, and
finally (4) those that have the most to lose if this land-grab hoax is
exposed: the Ruling Class and the religious leadership that continues to
support them by way of perpetuating the belief in a god.
Ruling Class members, (not to be confused with the wealthiest people on the
planet), have basically gone underground in the United States where it is
safer for them to exist. These are people who possess real power in that
they are able to affect the economic well-being of large regions of the
world. Anyone who possesses gross and significant power, anywhere within the
chain of supplying "basic needs" to Earth's human, animal, or plant
population, is a Ruling Class member, whether it be a single person, a
family, a publicly-traded business, a board of directors, a CEO, or some
other known or unknown combination. On example would be the conglomerate ABB
Ltd. "ABB Ltd. is a global provider of power and automation technologies
that enable utility and industry customers to improve performance while
lowering environmental impact." Source: Reuters Abridged Business Summary.
January 2005.
I believe that our efforts as non-believers and doubters will be more
effective if we begin a campaign of "Why there has to be a god." The goal
of this campaign would be to:
(A) Find and collect as much information, from the time of King Cyrus of
Persia to today, for "Why there has to be a god." This would include all
historical legal information, legal rulings, legal decisions, legal
procedures, legal contracts, and legal events, in which a god was in any way
used to validate or legitimatize its legality. Why? Do you really believe
that 30,000 to 50,000 people over the hundred-year period of the Inquisition
were tortured to death because they doubted the existence of a god? It was
more likely due to business, economics, and something much more coveted,
like preserving the ownership of land and all of its resources. So they were
most likely tortured to death because their doubts could spread and
eventually collapse the legal system and the monarchy. The same tactics were
used on the Native American Indians about 512 years ago; which in Earth time
is a very short time ago.
(B) Decide on the best way to quickly organize and store this information
safely as it begins to be collected and make it readily accessible to as
much of the public as possible. I would recommend a searchable Red Hat Linux
compatible database connected to the Internet with multiple mirror sites.
(C) Aggressive Marketing. University students need to be first on the list,
because they are the next generation of voters (Christians know this and
take extreme advantage of this marketing opportunity). Other choices might
be: Radio talk shows, Secular Magazines, Independent Media publications,
Slide Show Advertising before the showing of a movie, Law Professors,
History Professors, Cultural Anthropology Professors, and Peaceful
Demonstrations that might attract mainstream media. I am certain that many
of you have addition ideas that are as good or better. We need to get as
many of these repressed historical facts out into the public arena for
discussion and debate. As you already know, the media loves controversy; it
attracts viewers and advertisers.
As part of this "Why there has to be a god" campaign, I would suggest that
we also, whenever possible, discredit and discourage those who continue to
assign decision-making intelligence to things like tsunamis, earthquakes,
floods, and volcanic eruptions, as if choice was involved at some level.
Everything in nature continually moves toward homeostasis. There is nothing
magical or spiritual about it, even though we are in awe of these events,
and by their very nature, deserve our respect; respect for the capacity of
these events to destroy or in some cases, create something new. The earth,
along with its relationship to the sun, the moon, the solar system, and the
rest of the galaxy, will continue to move toward homeostasis whether we are
living on the planet or not. It has nothing to do with us living on the
planet. Thinking that is does, is truly the height of human arrogance in
action.
Arm yourself with a further understanding of the issues at:
http://www.thegospelwriters.com/illegal_authority_hoax.html
----
.

User: "Larry Heath"

Title: Re: Our Fight is not with Jews, Christians, Muslims, or Mormons 09 Jan 2005 12:50:47 AM
"Human Rights" <awareness4uall@worldnet.com> wrote in message
news:VHKDd.79894$k25.62937@attbi_s53...

A Call for Action letter from Human Rights Activist and Author of "The
Gospel Writers."



----

Our Fight is not with Jews, Christians, Muslims, or Mormons

by Clint Clark January 7, 2005.



For all of us non-believers and doubters on the planet Earth, here's the
problem we're facing and we need your help to solve it:



We will not be able to change what has happened to our species, until we
find a way around the legal issues related to the believe in a god. Trying
to prove that no god exists is unproductive at this time, since the
current
and more pressing issue is: "Why there has to be a god." We need you to
focus your efforts on this issue first; and here's why: It begins with the
History of Law, more so than the Origin of Religion. Too many Atheists and
Free Thinkers make the mistake that the Origin of Religion is about
spirituality. The Origin of Religion is synonymous with the History of
Law,
which is researchable and verifiable.



Shortly after agriculture began, a very small minority of people realized
that agriculture, or more accurately stated, a predictable food source,
could make someone very wealthy if they came up with a way to take
advantage
of this new invention; especially since many cultures had begun to build
permanent settlements in the area of southern Turkey and northern Iraq
while
Hunter-Gatherer cultures began to decline. Kinships became the logical
social tool to take advantage of this new invention.



Although armies were used to conquer a region, the people in that region
far
out numbered the members of the conquering army. It would have been
impossible to police the entire population and keep them compliant with
and
submissive to the new kinship without some kind of social tool. So how
does
one logically convince a large population that they have a Legal Right to
steal their land, their food, their water, along with all of their other
land related resources, and even enslave some of the population? What
about
using a social tool already accepted by the population, one that was is
use
prior to kinships, during the time of democratic assemblies? What about
locally practiced religions? This is when religion as a whole, makes its
first significant change as "Lord" gods appear, (one god over a group of
local gods), using a Patriarchy Legal System. In a Patriarchy Legal
System,
the Father of the family makes all the decisions and has the accepted
right
to give away property. And of course, you cannot give away something that
was not yours to give in the first place. If you made something, you
certainly have the Legal Right to give it away, if you so desire. You also
have the Legal Right to do whatever you want with it. According to Jews,
Christians, Muslims, and Mormons, who made the Earth? If you made the
Earth,
it is acceptable for you to give some of it away, as we find in the case
history of King Cyrus of Persia, according to the Jews. From Ezra Chapter
1
verses 2-4 in the Old Testament (The Douay-Rheims Bible):



"Thus saith Cyrus king of the Persians: The Lord the God of heaven hath
given to me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he hath charged me to build
him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judea. Who is there among you of all
his people? His God be with him. Let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in
Judea, and build the house of the Lord the God of Israel: he is the God
that
is in Jerusalem. And let all the rest in all places wheresoever they
dwell,
help him every man from his place, with silver and gold, and goods, and
cattle, besides that which they offer freely to the temple of God, which
is
in Jerusalem."



At this time in history, if you needed the Legal Authority to accomplish
something, without allowing the population to vote that Legal Authority
into
your hands, it was fictitiously given to you by a god. This Legal
Authority
became know as Divine Right. This hoax had to be a collaborative effort by
not only by the kinship and the Ruling Class, but also by the religious
leaders. Why do we know this was a hoax? Because King Cyrus of Persia
never
said what the Jews claim he said. What King Cyrus of Persia said was
recorded on a clay cylinder called Cyrus' Cylinder and is currently stored
at the British Museum in London, England. If you do not live in London,
transcripts of what he said are published on the Internet. This is just
one
of many examples of how the History of Law and the Origin of Religion are
inseparable. If you were not already aware of this falsification in
earlier
version of the Old Testament, then this is your first taste of why there
is
a god today or more correctly stated, "Why there has to be a god."



Our fight is not with Jews, Christians, Muslims, or Mormons. It never has
been, nor should we waste our time and resources on discrediting the
existence of their imaginary supernatural surrogate parent figure; what
they
consider to be a god. Our fight is with "the repression of historical
facts"
related to (1) land ownership, which includes the related ownership of
important resources such as water, minerals, oil and natural gas, food
resources, building materials, etc., (2) property taxes related to land
ownership, (3) hereditary monarchies that evolved from kingships, and
finally (4) those that have the most to lose if this land-grab hoax is
exposed: the Ruling Class and the religious leadership that continues to
support them by way of perpetuating the belief in a god.



Ruling Class members, (not to be confused with the wealthiest people on
the
planet), have basically gone underground in the United States where it is
safer for them to exist. These are people who possess real power in that
they are able to affect the economic well-being of large regions of the
world. Anyone who possesses gross and significant power, anywhere within
the
chain of supplying "basic needs" to Earth's human, animal, or plant
population, is a Ruling Class member, whether it be a single person, a
family, a publicly-traded business, a board of directors, a CEO, or some
other known or unknown combination. On example would be the conglomerate
ABB
Ltd. "ABB Ltd. is a global provider of power and automation technologies
that enable utility and industry customers to improve performance while
lowering environmental impact." Source: Reuters Abridged Business Summary.
January 2005.



I believe that our efforts as non-believers and doubters will be more
effective if we begin a campaign of "Why there has to be a god." The goal
of this campaign would be to:



(A) Find and collect as much information, from the time of King Cyrus of
Persia to today, for "Why there has to be a god." This would include all
historical legal information, legal rulings, legal decisions, legal
procedures, legal contracts, and legal events, in which a god was in any
way
used to validate or legitimatize its legality. Why? Do you really believe
that 30,000 to 50,000 people over the hundred-year period of the
Inquisition
were tortured to death because they doubted the existence of a god? It was
more likely due to business, economics, and something much more coveted,
like preserving the ownership of land and all of its resources. So they
were
most likely tortured to death because their doubts could spread and
eventually collapse the legal system and the monarchy. The same tactics
were
used on the Native American Indians about 512 years ago; which in Earth
time
is a very short time ago.



(B) Decide on the best way to quickly organize and store this information
safely as it begins to be collected and make it readily accessible to as
much of the public as possible. I would recommend a searchable Red Hat
Linux
compatible database connected to the Internet with multiple mirror sites.



(C) Aggressive Marketing. University students need to be first on the
list,
because they are the next generation of voters (Christians know this and
take extreme advantage of this marketing opportunity). Other choices might
be: Radio talk shows, Secular Magazines, Independent Media publications,
Slide Show Advertising before the showing of a movie, Law Professors,
History Professors, Cultural Anthropology Professors, and Peaceful
Demonstrations that might attract mainstream media. I am certain that many
of you have addition ideas that are as good or better. We need to get as
many of these repressed historical facts out into the public arena for
discussion and debate. As you already know, the media loves controversy;
it
attracts viewers and advertisers.



As part of this "Why there has to be a god" campaign, I would suggest that
we also, whenever possible, discredit and discourage those who continue to
assign decision-making intelligence to things like tsunamis, earthquakes,
floods, and volcanic eruptions, as if choice was involved at some level.
Everything in nature continually moves toward homeostasis. There is
nothing
magical or spiritual about it, even though we are in awe of these events,
and by their very nature, deserve our respect; respect for the capacity of
these events to destroy or in some cases, create something new. The earth,
along with its relationship to the sun, the moon, the solar system, and
the
rest of the galaxy, will continue to move toward homeostasis whether we
are
living on the planet or not. It has nothing to do with us living on the
planet. Thinking that is does, is truly the height of human arrogance in
action.



Arm yourself with a further understanding of the issues at:



http://www.thegospelwriters.com/illegal_authority_hoax.html

----




Admittedly, I have not read the whole of the text quoted above, but the
first few sentences and the last few sentences, leads me to believe that
this is wholly a large crock of *****!
Screw the idea of god or gods, or supreme beings, or other supra-sentient
beings, and the horse they, he, she, it, rode in on. Man needs to deal with
man's problems! Relying on crutches, like the idea of a god, is ultimately
counterproductive. We have feet, we need to stand on them, not constantly
spend time our knees with her eyes closed, begging for guidance from a
fairytale. We collectively, the human race, have brains, we need to use
them! Not rely on faith, fantasies, fairy tales, and downright out and out
lies, to guide us. Ultimately, I believe man is able to guide his own
destiny.
Later Larry
.


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