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"MarkA" |
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24 Nov 2003 06:46:40 AM |
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Our God is an awesome god |
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Our God is an awesome god |
24 Nov 2003 12:44:45 PM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.11.24.12.45.55.465063@stopspam.net...
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
It's funnier when you read what you wrote rather than what you meant.
Who knew?
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: Our God is an awesome god |
24 Nov 2003 10:38:02 AM |
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2003-11-24, 01:46:40 PM, MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to the
Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a
religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
Their god is as awesome as they make him, of course this wont have any
change on the actual real world. These people are just beyond belief.
Take a look at these two pages. The first one of a US flag with the sun
shining through it, creating a crosslike pattern. The text goes "Take a
look at this picture. It's awesome!!! [...] Goes to show: Persons may
try to get God out of the government, but He will still shine through."
http://www.snopes.com/photos/azflag.asp
And the second one of a C-130 shooting out flares. "Someone sent us
this amazing photo that graphically illustrates an angel watching over
our troops."
http://www.snopes.com/photos/c130.asp
Yeah, make me vomit, why don't you.
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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24 Nov 2003 07:45:23 AM |
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I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god?
I thought Christians claim there's only one god.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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25 Nov 2003 06:52:23 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god? I thought Christians
claim there's only one god.
There was a time when the Xtian God was competing against the pagan gods.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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26 Nov 2003 04:45:44 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:52:23 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god? I thought Christians
claim there's only one god.
There was a time when the Xtian God was competing against the pagan gods.
One of the versions of the 10 commandments - somewhere in the
babble - God says: "You shalt not have any other Gods before me,
because I am a jealous God". That might have been written when
each tribe had its own Gods, with a "My God is better than your
God" attitude. The monotheism might have come along later.
-
Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Nov 2003 02:34:35 AM |
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In article <cm7asv04jikkchkh6dkb0957413m3hjabe@4ax.com>,
Martin Thomas <mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:52:23 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god? I thought Christians
claim there's only one god.
There was a time when the Xtian God was competing against the pagan gods.
One of the versions of the 10 commandments - somewhere in the
babble - God says: "You shalt not have any other Gods before me,
because I am a jealous God". That might have been written when
each tribe had its own Gods, with a "My God is better than your
God" attitude. The monotheism might have come along later.
Or as Gen. Boykin said: "My god is bigger than your god!"
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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28 Nov 2003 04:08:13 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:34:35 -0800, johac
<jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <cm7asv04jikkchkh6dkb0957413m3hjabe@4ax.com>,
Martin Thomas <mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:52:23 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god? I thought Christians
claim there's only one god.
There was a time when the Xtian God was competing against the pagan gods.
One of the versions of the 10 commandments - somewhere in the
babble - God says: "You shalt not have any other Gods before me,
because I am a jealous God". That might have been written when
each tribe had its own Gods, with a "My God is better than your
God" attitude. The monotheism might have come along later.
Or as Gen. Boykin said: "My god is bigger than your god!"
My God will beat the ***** out of your God!
-
Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Our God is an awesome god |
29 Nov 2003 01:12:35 AM |
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In article <ci7esvk2ao3radnm3rijehkreff7t3aodo@4ax.com>,
Martin Thomas <mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:34:35 -0800, johac
<jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <cm7asv04jikkchkh6dkb0957413m3hjabe@4ax.com>,
Martin Thomas <mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:52:23 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing.
Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god? I thought Christians
claim there's only one god.
There was a time when the Xtian God was competing against the pagan gods.
One of the versions of the 10 commandments - somewhere in the
babble - God says: "You shalt not have any other Gods before me,
because I am a jealous God". That might have been written when
each tribe had its own Gods, with a "My God is better than your
God" attitude. The monotheism might have come along later.
Or as Gen. Boykin said: "My god is bigger than your god!"
My God will beat the ***** out of your God!
Ah, my god can kick your god's ***** standing on one foot and with one
hand tied behind his back!
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "stoney" |
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29 Nov 2003 12:10:06 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-73FC06.00343528112003@news-central.ash.giganews.com>
wrote in alt.atheism;
In article <cm7asv04jikkchkh6dkb0957413m3hjabe@4ax.com>,
Martin Thomas <mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:52:23 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god? I thought Christians
claim there's only one god.
There was a time when the Xtian God was competing against the pagan gods.
One of the versions of the 10 commandments - somewhere in the
babble - God says: "You shalt not have any other Gods before me,
because I am a jealous God". That might have been written when
each tribe had its own Gods, with a "My God is better than your
God" attitude. The monotheism might have come along later.
Or as Gen. Boykin said: "My god is bigger than your god!"
Both are pricks and a three inch pecker isn't anything to brandish.....
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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27 Nov 2003 10:04:11 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:52:23 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>,
Message ID: <pan.2003.11.25.12.51.36.693569@stopspam.net> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god? I thought Christians
claim there's only one god.
There was a time when the Xtian God was competing against the pagan gods.
They won.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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24 Nov 2003 08:50:46 AM |
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Witziges Rätsel wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
"Our" god as opposed to what? "Their" god?
I thought Christians claim there's only one god.
A Fraudian slip perhaps?
:)
(sorry for the pun....)
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2
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24 Nov 2003 04:46:43 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.11.24.12.45.55.465063@stopspam.net>,
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
Our *GAWD!* is a run-of-the-mill god. Can't defeat an army with iron
chariots, but does pretty well in the department of getting teenage
virgins preggers.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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25 Nov 2003 06:49:19 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:46:43 +0000, *nemo* wrote:
In article <pan.2003.11.24.12.45.55.465063@stopspam.net>,
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church -
too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that
believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
Our *GAWD!* is a run-of-the-mill god. Can't defeat an army with iron
chariots, but does pretty well in the department of getting teenage
virgins preggers.
Well, HE focuses His attention where it is most needed. Who wants to
fight someone in a chariot of iron, when there are 14 year old girls to be
impregnated?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Anonymous Nobody" |
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24 Nov 2003 01:00:32 PM |
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In article <pan.2003.11.24.12.45.55.465063@stopspam.net>, MarkA
<manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God."
He's like, totally awesome to the max, dude.
Sean C
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24 Nov 2003 10:18:43 AM |
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Mark A wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
--
Mark, may I ask a personal question? Was your wife always religious? I'm
curious because that would have been a dealbreaker for me. I don't think I
would have fallen in love with someone who believed in an interactive god and
followed a specific religion. That would be like falling in love with someone
with radically different political views.I know it happens but I don't see that
it could have happened to me.
Lana (happily married to an awesome non-believer)
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| User: "bob young" |
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25 Nov 2003 12:26:14 AM |
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LanaXZR wrote:
Mark A wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
--
Mark, may I ask a personal question? Was your wife always religious? I'm
curious because that would have been a dealbreaker for me. I don't think I
would have fallen in love with someone who believed in an interactive god and
followed a specific religion. That would be like falling in love with someone
with radically different political views.I know it happens but I don't see that
it could have happened to me.
Lana (happily married to an awesome non-believer)
My oldest buddie is an atheist married to a spanish lady - devout catholic
they argue for hours on religion. nothing wrong with that
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24 Nov 2003 10:59:27 AM |
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On 24 Nov 2003, (LanaXZR) screwed up his face, groaned,
pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:20031124111843.08468.00000783@mb-m24.aol.com:
Mark A wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to the
Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a
religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
--
Mark, may I ask a personal question? Was your wife always religious?
I'm curious because that would have been a dealbreaker for me. I don't
think I would have fallen in love with someone who believed in an
interactive god and followed a specific religion. That would be like
falling in love with someone with radically different political
views.I know it happens but I don't see that it could have happened to
me.
Lana (happily married to an awesome non-believer)
It's actually quite possible. I would be unable to be with a Calvinist,
for example, because those beliefs are downright evil no matter how you
look at it. But my girlfriend is religious, we've been together two
years, and we've worked it out by simply agreeing to disagree.
However, it's not all sunshine and flowers. Generally the problems in a
relationship like that come from one person and not the other. In my
case, my girlfriend recently told me that she won't be happy with our
relationship until I'm happy with my life, and that furthermore she
knows without a doubt that I'm not happy with my life because "it's
impossible to be happy without faith." In other words, we have a bad
relationship (in her mind) because I'm nonreligious.
I think, if I can't convince her otherwise, I'm gonna swear off romantic
relationships until I find someone who is either amazingly open-minded
or another atheist. And anyone who's not an atheist will have to give
me a whole lot of reason to believe they're open-minded.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
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| User: "towelie" |
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24 Nov 2003 04:27:03 PM |
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TV's Mekkala wrote:
On 24 Nov 2003, (LanaXZR) screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:20031124111843.08468.00000783@mb-m24.aol.com:
Mark A wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to
the Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable
with a religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
--
Mark, may I ask a personal question? Was your wife always religious?
I'm curious because that would have been a dealbreaker for me. I
don't think I would have fallen in love with someone who believed in
an interactive god and followed a specific religion. That would be
like falling in love with someone with radically different political
views.I know it happens but I don't see that it could have happened
to me.
It's actually quite possible. I would be unable to be with a
Calvinist, for example, because those beliefs are downright evil no
matter how you look at it. But my girlfriend is religious, we've
been together two years, and we've worked it out by simply agreeing
to disagree.
However, it's not all sunshine and flowers. Generally the problems
in a relationship like that come from one person and not the other.
In my case, my girlfriend recently told me that she won't be happy
with our relationship until I'm happy with my life, and that
furthermore she knows without a doubt that I'm not happy with my life
because "it's impossible to be happy without faith." In other words,
we have a bad relationship (in her mind) because I'm nonreligious.
I think, if I can't convince her otherwise, I'm gonna swear off
romantic relationships until I find someone who is either amazingly
open-minded or another atheist. And anyone who's not an atheist will
have to give me a whole lot of reason to believe they're open-minded.
My ex was a thumper. I now refuse to date fundies for any reason, so I've
basically gone ahead and sworn off romantic relationships.
--
Swayin' to the rhythm of the new world order
Count the bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drum
aa #2133
apatriot #19
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25 Nov 2003 07:09:09 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:18:43 +0000, LanaXZR wrote:
Mark A wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung
was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps
that is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
--
Mark, may I ask a personal question? Was your wife always religious? I'm
curious because that would have been a dealbreaker for me. I don't think I
would have fallen in love with someone who believed in an interactive god
and followed a specific religion. That would be like falling in love with
someone with radically different political views.I know it happens but I
don't see that it could have happened to me.
Lana (happily married to an awesome non-believer)
My wife was raised Catholic, and remains so, though she does have some
reservations about the RCC. Her twin brother joined one of the
"Charismatic Christian" churches. I don't know if there is a specific
name for the denomination. It is one of those "Jesus is your buddy."
philosophies. Her other, older brother is non-religious.
Though it does cause some conflict, especially with regards to raising the
kids, it is not unmanagable. I don't think that two people will ever be
100% in agreement on everything, and if they were, it would make for a
very boring relationship.
With regard to the kids: before we got married, I had to agree that the
kids would be raised Catholic. I had no problem with that at the time.
I'm not sure that I would be able to agree to that now, however. In any
event, it is still OK with me. They are growing up in a society that is
dominated by Christianity, so such an upbringing is more "mainstream."
Although I don't actively disrupt their religious education, I make sure
that they are exposed to healthy doses of alternative points of view, such
as Monty Python movies. When they are old enough, they will be able to
decide for themselves if religion makes sense to them or not.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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25 Nov 2003 10:33:30 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:09:09 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
Though it does cause some conflict, especially with regards to raising the
kids, it is not unmanagable. I don't think that two people will ever be
100% in agreement on everything, and if they were, it would make for a
very boring relationship.
I lucked into a relationship with a man that is so like me that we say
the same thing at the same time. It's kind of scary.
We have long fascinating conversations that explore ideas rather than
argue about them.
With regard to the kids: before we got married, I had to agree that the
kids would be raised Catholic. I had no problem with that at the time.
I'm not sure that I would be able to agree to that now, however. In any
event, it is still OK with me. They are growing up in a society that is
dominated by Christianity, so such an upbringing is more "mainstream."
Although I don't actively disrupt their religious education, I make sure
that they are exposed to healthy doses of alternative points of view, such
as Monty Python movies. When they are old enough, they will be able to
decide for themselves if religion makes sense to them or not.
I'm afraid that would be far beyond my tolerance. One of my main
atheist ethics is that telling a child what to believe is worse than
child molestation. You have to build a healthy questioning exploring
mind that would never allow anyone to stifle it by telling it 'just
have faith'.
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25 Nov 2003 11:07:50 PM |
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TV's Kate wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:09:09 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
Though it does cause some conflict, especially with regards to
raising the kids, it is not unmanagable. I don't think that two
people will ever be 100% in agreement on everything, and if they
were, it would make for a very boring relationship.
I lucked into a relationship with a man that is so like me that we say
the same thing at the same time. It's kind of scary.
We have long fascinating conversations that explore ideas rather than
argue about them.
I cannot even imagine that. Must be nice.
With regard to the kids: before we got married, I had to agree that
the kids would be raised Catholic. I had no problem with that at
the time. I'm not sure that I would be able to agree to that now,
however. In any event, it is still OK with me. They are growing up
in a society that is dominated by Christianity, so such an
upbringing is more "mainstream." Although I don't actively disrupt
their religious education, I make sure that they are exposed to
healthy doses of alternative points of view, such as Monty Python
movies. When they are old enough, they will be able to decide for
themselves if religion makes sense to them or not.
I'm afraid that would be far beyond my tolerance. One of my main
atheist ethics is that telling a child what to believe is worse than
child molestation.
I don't know if I'd say it was worse, but it's just as bad. As a former
child who was forced to attend church until I was 18, I can say that forcing
religion on a child is one of the worst kinds of abuse. It still haunts me
to this day, and I even have dreams about it.
--
Swayin' to the rhythm of the new world order
Count the bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drum
aa #2133
apatriot #19
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Nov 2003 11:23:44 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:07:50 -0600, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>,
Message ID: <bq1cfa$1tji5t$1@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote in
alt.atheism;
TV's Kate wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:09:09 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
wrote:
Though it does cause some conflict, especially with regards to
raising the kids, it is not unmanagable. I don't think that two
people will ever be 100% in agreement on everything, and if they
were, it would make for a very boring relationship.
I lucked into a relationship with a man that is so like me that we say
the same thing at the same time. It's kind of scary.
We have long fascinating conversations that explore ideas rather than
argue about them.
I cannot even imagine that. Must be nice.
My wife and I will drop into "Devil's Advocate" mode in an attempt to
see all sides. We can even switch sides and advocate the position we
were against earlier.... :)
It does have a tendency to drive people nuts. We try to 'think outside
the box' constantly.
With regard to the kids: before we got married, I had to agree that
the kids would be raised Catholic. I had no problem with that at
the time. I'm not sure that I would be able to agree to that now,
however. In any event, it is still OK with me. They are growing up
in a society that is dominated by Christianity, so such an
upbringing is more "mainstream." Although I don't actively disrupt
their religious education, I make sure that they are exposed to
healthy doses of alternative points of view, such as Monty Python
movies. When they are old enough, they will be able to decide for
themselves if religion makes sense to them or not.
I'm afraid that would be far beyond my tolerance. One of my main
atheist ethics is that telling a child what to believe is worse than
child molestation.
I don't know if I'd say it was worse, but it's just as bad. As a former
child who was forced to attend church until I was 18, I can say that forcing
religion on a child is one of the worst kinds of abuse. It still haunts me
to this day, and I even have dreams about it.
I agree. I consider myself fortunate to have worked through all the
rubbish-well a lot of my memory tracks have been destroyed too.
However, the destruction occured later.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Nov 2003 07:22:37 AM |
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MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
"What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make His way home"
- Joan Osborne/Eric Bazilian
I wonder if the RCC considers that song sacrilege?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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24 Nov 2003 10:13:18 AM |
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MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
It always stuns me to hear Christians judging and evaluating their
god. I attended an evening event at a fundamentalist church (at the
invitation of a religious friend). It was supposed to be a
presentation by a supposed scientific type who was now selling
creationism and disavowing evolution, but most of the evening was just
a prayer fest. There was lots of moaning and waving of arms in the
air, but one woman just held my attention. For about 15 minutes she
just repeated, over and over, "Jesus, you are worthy." I wanted, so
badly, to ask her if she thought that Jesus might be worried on this
point. But I bit my tongue.
--
John Popelish
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| User: "bob young" |
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25 Nov 2003 12:24:15 AM |
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John Popelish wrote:
MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the youth
group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs being sung was
titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that amusing. Perhaps that
is one of the many reasons why I object to the Catholic Church - too
arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a religion that believed
that "Our God is a so-so God."
It always stuns me to hear Christians judging and evaluating their
god. I attended an evening event at a fundamentalist church (at the
invitation of a religious friend). It was supposed to be a
presentation by a supposed scientific type who was now selling
creationism and disavowing evolution, but most of the evening was just
a prayer fest. There was lots of moaning and waving of arms in the
air, but one woman just held my attention. For about 15 minutes she
just repeated, over and over, "Jesus, you are worthy." I wanted, so
badly, to ask her if she thought that Jesus might be worried on this
point. But I bit my tongue....
.....from the wild incantations of folks at a ju ju ceremony in the West Indies
to the pointless mental contortions of fundamentalists at church, there is
little to choose.
how sad...
bob
hong Kong
They sometimes ask what evidence it would take to get me to convert. Now I
know: a theist with an original thought. That would be an undeniable miracle.
[Fred Stone]
--
John Popelish
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Our God is an awesome god |
24 Nov 2003 10:53:39 AM |
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On 24 Nov 2003, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:3FC22E3B.DE53B505@rica.net:
MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to the
Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a
religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
It always stuns me to hear Christians judging and evaluating their
god. I attended an evening event at a fundamentalist church (at the
invitation of a religious friend). It was supposed to be a
presentation by a supposed scientific type who was now selling
creationism and disavowing evolution, but most of the evening was just
a prayer fest. There was lots of moaning and waving of arms in the
air, but one woman just held my attention. For about 15 minutes she
just repeated, over and over, "Jesus, you are worthy." I wanted, so
badly, to ask her if she thought that Jesus might be worried on this
point. But I bit my tongue.
A God with an inferiority complex...
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
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| User: "Nullifidian" |
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| Title: Re: Our God is an awesome god |
24 Nov 2003 04:44:46 PM |
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Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns943D6ED99F98CMekkala@199.45.49.11:
On 24 Nov 2003, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:3FC22E3B.DE53B505@rica.net:
MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to the
Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a
religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
It always stuns me to hear Christians judging and evaluating their
god. I attended an evening event at a fundamentalist church (at the
invitation of a religious friend). It was supposed to be a
presentation by a supposed scientific type who was now selling
creationism and disavowing evolution, but most of the evening was just
a prayer fest. There was lots of moaning and waving of arms in the
air, but one woman just held my attention. For about 15 minutes she
just repeated, over and over, "Jesus, you are worthy." I wanted, so
badly, to ask her if she thought that Jesus might be worried on this
point. But I bit my tongue.
A God with an inferiority complex...
Certainly puts the whole "Worship me or go to Hell" thing in perspective.
--
Nullifidian, a.a. #1774 (Remove NO SPAM to e-mail me.)
Member of the EAC Scientific Priesthood Division (Biology Dept.)
"If you have seen me cross myself, it was to Science, Art and Nature."
- Bela Bartok
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Our God is an awesome god |
27 Nov 2003 10:05:56 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:44:46 GMT, Nullifidian
<nullifidianNO@SPAMgodisdead.com>, Message ID:
<yRvwb.23206$kl6.1039@fed1read03> wrote in alt.atheism;
Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns943D6ED99F98CMekkala@199.45.49.11:
On 24 Nov 2003, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:3FC22E3B.DE53B505@rica.net:
MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to the
Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a
religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
It always stuns me to hear Christians judging and evaluating their
god. I attended an evening event at a fundamentalist church (at the
invitation of a religious friend). It was supposed to be a
presentation by a supposed scientific type who was now selling
creationism and disavowing evolution, but most of the evening was just
a prayer fest. There was lots of moaning and waving of arms in the
air, but one woman just held my attention. For about 15 minutes she
just repeated, over and over, "Jesus, you are worthy." I wanted, so
badly, to ask her if she thought that Jesus might be worried on this
point. But I bit my tongue.
A God with an inferiority complex...
Certainly puts the whole "Worship me or go to Hell" thing in perspective.
Don't forget "Worship me and go to Hell anyway."
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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29 Nov 2003 06:56:06 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:05:56 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:44:46 GMT, Nullifidian
<nullifidianNO@SPAMgodisdead.com>, Message ID:
<yRvwb.23206$kl6.1039@fed1read03> wrote in alt.atheism;
Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns943D6ED99F98CMekkala@199.45.49.11:
On 24 Nov 2003, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:3FC22E3B.DE53B505@rica.net:
MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to the
Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a
religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
It always stuns me to hear Christians judging and evaluating their
god. I attended an evening event at a fundamentalist church (at the
invitation of a religious friend). It was supposed to be a
presentation by a supposed scientific type who was now selling
creationism and disavowing evolution, but most of the evening was just
a prayer fest. There was lots of moaning and waving of arms in the
air, but one woman just held my attention. For about 15 minutes she
just repeated, over and over, "Jesus, you are worthy." I wanted, so
badly, to ask her if she thought that Jesus might be worried on this
point. But I bit my tongue.
A God with an inferiority complex...
Certainly puts the whole "Worship me or go to Hell" thing in perspective.
Don't forget "Worship me and go to Hell anyway."
They don't give you a cake and you still get food poisoning.
-
Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Our God is an awesome god |
29 Nov 2003 05:10:53 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:56:06 +0000, Martin Thomas
<mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net>, Message ID:
<7q5hsvsqedhdv4sp9nku918369k3s1qdn3@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:05:56 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:44:46 GMT, Nullifidian
<nullifidianNO@SPAMgodisdead.com>, Message ID:
<yRvwb.23206$kl6.1039@fed1read03> wrote in alt.atheism;
Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns943D6ED99F98CMekkala@199.45.49.11:
On 24 Nov 2003, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:3FC22E3B.DE53B505@rica.net:
MarkA wrote:
I went to church this week. My wife runs the youth group, and the
youth group put on a show, so I went to see it. One of the songs
being sung was titled, "Out God is an Awesome God." I found that
amusing. Perhaps that is one of the many reasons why I object to the
Catholic Church - too arrogant. I would feel more comfortable with a
religion that believed that "Our God is a so-so God."
It always stuns me to hear Christians judging and evaluating their
god. I attended an evening event at a fundamentalist church (at the
invitation of a religious friend). It was supposed to be a
presentation by a supposed scientific type who was now selling
creationism and disavowing evolution, but most of the evening was just
a prayer fest. There was lots of moaning and waving of arms in the
air, but one woman just held my attention. For about 15 minutes she
just repeated, over and over, "Jesus, you are worthy." I wanted, so
badly, to ask her if she thought that Jesus might be worried on this
point. But I bit my tongue.
A God with an inferiority complex...
Certainly puts the whole "Worship me or go to Hell" thing in perspective.
Don't forget "Worship me and go to Hell anyway."
They don't give you a cake and you still get food poisoning.
And it's considered "loving."
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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