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"Truth Hunter" |
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27 Aug 2005 01:59:54 AM |
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Our God the brown skin carpenter |
Our God the brown skin carpenter
Just a question, if Jesus was a carpenter, where are the items he made?
Why isn't there any furniture he made?
Where did the wood for Jesus's carpentry come from?
Cursed fig trees?
If the spear that was thrust into Jesus' side grants the possessor
power to rule the world, and a cup that he drank out of grants eternal
life (or whatever the grail supposedly does) what does a credenza made
by Gods' own hands do?
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/faq/faq-tr.html
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God killed himself on the cross to save his own creation fro=ADm his own
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
30 Aug 2005 07:57:06 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:07:50 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Nope, my Christian faith specifically calls for us to love one
another as God loves us.
That's what it tells you but ou ignore the advice:
How so? You atheists need help in the worst way.
"You're getting very close to hurting an innocent person, and I
don't want any
part of it. Heed my words, yang. "
Yep, the atheist, under-acheiver yang needed to be warned away from
hurting others. This blithering idiot yang was getting close to
hurting some innocent people out there.
Was getting close? He has not stopped making comments about you and your
aaddress.
"No, no netcop. There are internet laws against cyberstalking, and
he's deeply
involved in that now. He's going to hurt innocent people if he isn't
stopped.
If it takes doing some official complaining about him, he certainly
in a positron to be fingered. "
That's right. Sometimes you have to tell the ignorant like yang to
take a hike.
You say "he's going to hurt innocent people" and take no action.
Your christian duty says tell somebody.
"My concern for innocent others has already been expressed, and yet
your kind
continue to strive to hurt them. "
If this was you (and it is) wouldn't you want somebody to do what
you talk about?
But we'd find out who you are and you will ignore what your "faith"
tells you to hide.
Sick little man.
Yes you are, mikey, for not only assisting the trials of yang but
actually leading him own.
Shame on you.
It's not me that talks about it and does nothing, it's you.
You are afraid to do what you say others should do.
Cowardly little man.
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| User: "duke" |
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31 Aug 2005 06:34:35 PM |
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:57:06 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
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Yep, the atheist, under-acheiver yang needed to be warned away from
hurting others. This blithering idiot yang was getting close to
hurting some innocent people out there.
Was getting close? He has not stopped making comments about you and your
aaddress.
I have no concern about what he says about me. I have great concern when he
starts to hurt innocent others due to his sheer lack of intelligence and respect
for others.
That's right. Sometimes you have to tell the ignorant like yang to
take a hike.
You say "he's going to hurt innocent people" and take no action.
Your christian duty says tell somebody.
And?
Yes you are, mikey, for not only assisting the trials of yang but
actually leading him own.
Shame on you.
It's not me that talks about it and does nothing, it's you.
You're the ignorant leading the greater ignorant.
You are afraid to do what you say others should do.
What makes you think that?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
31 Aug 2005 08:46:47 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:57:06 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yep, the atheist, under-acheiver yang needed to be warned away from
hurting others. This blithering idiot yang was getting close to
hurting some innocent people out there.
Was getting close? He has not stopped making comments about you and
your aaddress.
I have no concern about what he says about me. I have great concern
when he starts to hurt innocent others due to his sheer lack of
intelligence and respect for others.
But not enough to do anything but talk about it.
That's right. Sometimes you have to tell the ignorant like yang to
take a hike.
You say "he's going to hurt innocent people" and take no action.
Your christian duty says tell somebody.
And?
What part of "going to hurt" don't you understand.
Yes you are, mikey, for not only assisting the trials of yang but
actually leading him own.
Shame on you.
It's not me that talks about it and does nothing, it's you.
You're the ignorant leading the greater ignorant.
You are afraid to do what you say others should do.
What makes you think that?
Because you say people are going to be hurt and do nothing about it.
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Sep 2005 01:01:13 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:46:47 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Was getting close? He has not stopped making comments about you and
your aaddress.
I have no concern about what he says about me. I have great concern
when he starts to hurt innocent others due to his sheer lack of
intelligence and respect for others.
But not enough to do anything but talk about it.
Yang can't even actually talk (discuss) with any intelligence or concern for
others.
That's right. Sometimes you have to tell the ignorant like yang to
take a hike.
You say "he's going to hurt innocent people" and take no action.
Your christian duty says tell somebody.
And?
What part of "going to hurt" don't you understand.
What makes you think no action has been initiated?
Because you say people are going to be hurt and do nothing about it.
What makes you think no action has been initiated?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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02 Sep 2005 07:08:44 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:46:47 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Was getting close? He has not stopped making comments about you and
your aaddress.
I have no concern about what he says about me. I have great concern
when he starts to hurt innocent others due to his sheer lack of
intelligence and respect for others.
But not enough to do anything but talk about it.
Yang can't even actually talk (discuss) with any intelligence or
concern for others.
That's right. Sometimes you have to tell the ignorant like yang
to take a hike.
You say "he's going to hurt innocent people" and take no action.
Your christian duty says tell somebody.
And?
What part of "going to hurt" don't you understand.
What makes you think no action has been initiated?
It's you talking.
Because you say people are going to be hurt and do nothing about it.
What makes you think no action has been initiated?
Because it's you talking Earl.
If you initiated such action you would have to make a report.
Reports are matters of public record.
We would find out who you are and you are afraid to let that knowledge out.
Somebody might show your priest what you do.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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02 Sep 2005 08:10:26 PM |
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in article mn4hh1prn8aobsfsmoua10n1q74nfvkodu@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 9/2/05 2:01 PM:
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:46:47 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Was getting close? He has not stopped making comments about you and
your aaddress.
I have no concern about what he says about me. I have great concern
when he starts to hurt innocent others due to his sheer lack of
intelligence and respect for others.
But not enough to do anything but talk about it.
Yang can't even actually talk (discuss) with any intelligence or concern for
others.
That's right. Sometimes you have to tell the ignorant like yang to
take a hike.
You say "he's going to hurt innocent people" and take no action.
Your christian duty says tell somebody.
And?
What part of "going to hurt" don't you understand.
What makes you think no action has been initiated?
Because you say people are going to be hurt and do nothing about it.
What makes you think no action has been initiated?
It has to do with God....He NEVER initiates any action for us.
Paul
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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29 Aug 2005 03:33:07 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:07:50 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Nope, my Christian faith specifically calls for us to love one
another as God loves us.
That's what it tells you but ou ignore the advice:
How so?
Look below.
You atheists need help in the worst way.
Sorry, but no. We don't "need help."
"You're getting very close to hurting an innocent person, and I don't want
any
part of it. Heed my words, yang. "
Yep, the atheist, under-acheiver yang needed to be warned away from hurting
others.
Sorry, but he's not hurting anyone.
This blithering idiot yang
Nice "loving one another as God loves us."
was getting close to hurting some innocent
people out there.
Who?
"No, no netcop. There are internet laws against cyberstalking, and he's
deeply
involved in that now. He's going to hurt innocent people if he isn't
stopped.
If it takes doing some official complaining about him, he certainly in a
positron to be fingered. "
That's right. Sometimes you have to tell the ignorant like yang to take a hike.
VERY nice "loving one another as God loves us."
"My concern for innocent others has already been expressed, and yet your
kind
continue to strive to hurt them. "
If this was you (and it is) wouldn't you want somebody to do what you talk
about?
But we'd find out who you are and you will ignore what your "faith" tells
you to hide.
Sick little man.
Yes you are, mikey, for not only assisting the trials of yang but actually
leading him own.
Shame on you.
Hypocrite.
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| User: "nJb" |
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28 Aug 2005 10:51:40 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:50:54 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Not a chance. The price is too painful.
So, you are religious because you are selfish? Only care about
yourself, do you?
Nope, my Christian faith specifically calls for us to love one another as God
loves us.
It's you atheist that do otherwise, or you blindly say yes to God while you
openly accept him.
Hm. I wonder. What circle do the selfish inhabit again...?
That's your circle - you tell me.
Remember, Jesus (if he existed) died for what he believed in. He was
willing to have a crown of thorns hammered onto his head. He was
willing to be scourged. He was willing to drag his eventual
death-device through the streets, while people threw rocks at him, only
to have iron spikes jammed through his extremities, then lifted up to be
hung on those iron spikes, die on the cross, and have a spear jammed
through his torso.
Was the price too painful for Jesus?
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
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Plonked by Native American
bobo1148atxmissiondotcom
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Aug 2005 05:17:58 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:51:40 -0600, nJb <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself. Jesus did what he did to help others - a
concept that most atheists don't understand, as you well showed.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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29 Aug 2005 03:34:37 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:51:40 -0600, nJb <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself.
Not necessarily.
Jesus did what he did to help others - a
concept that most atheists don't understand, as you well showed.
I'm sorry, but you are not qualified to make assumptions about atheists.
Atheists understand helping others a lot more than you seem to do.
All you seem to do is care about yourself. It's why you're religious,
isn't it? To selfishly escape the pains of hell, right?
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
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| User: "duke" |
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31 Aug 2005 04:58:14 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:34:37 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself.
Not necessarily.
Absolutely.
Jesus did what he did to help others - a
concept that most atheists don't understand, as you well showed.
I'm sorry, but you are not qualified to make assumptions about atheists.
Sure I am. It's not an assumption, it's a glaring observation.
Atheists understand helping others a lot more than you seem to do.
Now there's a new one.
All you seem to do is care about yourself. It's why you're religious,
isn't it? To selfishly escape the pains of hell, right?
Does that mean you do what you do to consciously seek out hell?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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30 Aug 2005 08:00:44 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:51:40 -0600, nJb <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself. Jesus did what he did to help
others - a concept that most atheists don't understand, as you well
showed.
Of course not. We would make every effort to find another way to help.
This god of yours could have just done what *ANY* caring person would do.
OK Adam (since he was the man and responsible), you fucked up. Part of it is
because you could not have understood the consequences.
I'm going to give you a second chance.
Parents do this all the time. I think even your bible talks about
forgiveness.
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| User: "duke" |
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01 Sep 2005 04:26:11 AM |
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:00:44 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself. Jesus did what he did to help
others - a concept that most atheists don't understand, as you well
showed.
Of course not. We would make every effort to find another way to help.
This god of yours could have just done what *ANY* caring person would do.
Yet your blatant refusal and failure to accept and understand, much like a rock
would fail to do, is that he willingly gave up his life for us - he died on the
cross for us.
OK Adam (since he was the man and responsible), you fucked up. Part of it is
because you could not have understood the consequences.
So was Jesus, and he never sinned.
I'm going to give you a second chance.
You already blew the first one.
Parents do this all the time. I think even your bible talks about
forgiveness.
Gosh, mikey, all we are called to do is love one another as God loves us.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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01 Sep 2005 01:48:36 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:00:44 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself. Jesus did what he did to help
others - a concept that most atheists don't understand, as you well
showed.
Of course not. We would make every effort to find another way to
help.
This god of yours could have just done what *ANY* caring person
would do.
Yet your blatant refusal and failure to accept and understand, much
like a rock would fail to do, is that he willingly gave up his life
for us - he died on the cross for us.
And he could have done what any normal parent would do, give another chance.
Instead he acts like the parents who not only don't give the kids another
chance but punishes the grandkids for what the parents did.
If a human did that we would say they are insane.
OK Adam (since he was the man and responsible), you fucked up. Part
of it is because you could not have understood the consequences.
So was Jesus, and he never sinned.
I'm going to give you a second chance.
You already blew the first one.
Parents do this all the time. I think even your bible talks about
forgiveness.
Gosh, mikey, all we are called to do is love one another as God loves
us.
Exactly the point. If we are supposed to do that then your god shoould have
done that. It didn't.
It did not forgive, it did not give another chance.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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05 Feb 2006 03:02:56 PM |
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1 Tim.2:3-4
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:00:44 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself. Jesus did what he did to help
others - a concept that most atheists don't understand, as you well
showed.
Of course not. We would make every effort to find another way to
help.
This god of yours could have just done what *ANY* caring person
would do.
Yet your blatant refusal and failure to accept and understand, much
like a rock would fail to do, is that he willingly gave up his life
for us - he died on the cross for us.
And he could have done what any normal parent would do, give another
chance.
Instead he acts like the parents who not only don't give the kids another
chance but punishes the grandkids for what the parents did.
If a human did that we would say they are insane.
OK Adam (since he was the man and responsible), you fucked up. Part
of it is because you could not have understood the consequences.
So was Jesus, and he never sinned.
I'm going to give you a second chance.
You already blew the first one.
Parents do this all the time. I think even your bible talks about
forgiveness.
Gosh, mikey, all we are called to do is love one another as God loves
us.
Exactly the point. If we are supposed to do that then your god shoould
have done that. It didn't.
It did not forgive, it did not give another chance.
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Sep 2005 05:31:17 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:48:36 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Yet your blatant refusal and failure to accept and understand, much
like a rock would fail to do, is that he willingly gave up his life
for us - he died on the cross for us.
And he could have done what any normal parent would do, give another chance.
Instead he acts like the parents who not only don't give the kids another
chance but punishes the grandkids for what the parents did.
no, mikey. Now grow up, boy.
We speak of original sin, but it's a sin we all possess, not the one from A&E.
It's humankind's natural propensity to sin, and our call to over come it. Now
if you had any formal instruction here, you'd have known that.
Gosh, mikey, all we are called to do is love one another as God loves
us.
Exactly the point. If we are supposed to do that then your god shoould have
done that. It didn't. It did not forgive, it did not give another chance.
God gives us that chance every waking moment of our lives, and doesn't ever
require that we succeed, just that we try.
Gosh, mikey, go do some reading. Your ignorance is overwhelming you.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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02 Sep 2005 07:06:02 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:48:36 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yet your blatant refusal and failure to accept and understand, much
like a rock would fail to do, is that he willingly gave up his life
for us - he died on the cross for us.
And he could have done what any normal parent would do, give another
chance. Instead he acts like the parents who not only don't give the
kids another chance but punishes the grandkids for what the parents
did.
no, mikey. Now grow up, boy.
We speak of original sin, but it's a sin we all possess, not the one
from A&E. It's humankind's natural propensity to sin, and our call to
over come it. Now if you had any formal instruction here, you'd have
known that.
Now Earl denies A&E, what his church says and what he has said in the past.
Gosh, mikey, all we are called to do is love one another as God
loves us.
Exactly the point. If we are supposed to do that then your god
shoould have done that. It didn't. It did not forgive, it did not
give another chance.
God gives us that chance every waking moment of our lives, and
doesn't ever require that we succeed, just that we try.
Then there would have been no need for this christ guy to die.
Gosh, mikey, go do some reading. Your ignorance is overwhelming you.
Drunk again.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
29 Aug 2005 06:10:00 AM |
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in article n2o5h1ttg2n8o6fq4cbvj783t7d7csbk10@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 8/29/05 6:17 AM:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:51:40 -0600, nJb <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself. Jesus did what he did to help others
But now without expect a big payback in return....
Paul
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31 Aug 2005 04:55:17 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:10:00 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
A suicide does it to help himself. Jesus did what he did to help others
But now without expect a big payback in return....
Paul
Say what?
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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29 Aug 2005 08:06:34 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:51:40 -0600, nJb <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Was the price too painful for Jesus?
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
Appearance is deceiving. :-)
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| User: "nJb" |
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29 Aug 2005 11:48:02 AM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:51:40 -0600, nJb <none@nowhere.com> wrote:
Was the price too painful for Jesus?
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Sounds like suicide to me.
Appearance is deceiving. :-)
Just like religion.
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Jack
Plonked by Native American
bobo1148atxmissiondotcom
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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28 Aug 2005 09:17:46 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:50:54 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Not a chance. The price is too painful.
So, you are religious because you are selfish? Only care about
yourself, do you?
Nope, my Christian faith specifically calls for us to love one another as God
loves us.
Then you are not doing as God asks.
It's you atheist that do otherwise, or you blindly say yes to God while you
openly accept him.
I cannot say yes to something I have never seen.
Hm. I wonder. What circle do the selfish inhabit again...?
That's your circle - you tell me.
Sorry, but I don't subscribe to that lunacy. Only you.
Remember, Jesus (if he existed) died for what he believed in. He was
willing to have a crown of thorns hammered onto his head. He was
willing to be scourged. He was willing to drag his eventual
death-device through the streets, while people threw rocks at him, only
to have iron spikes jammed through his extremities, then lifted up to be
hung on those iron spikes, die on the cross, and have a spear jammed
through his torso.
Was the price too painful for Jesus?
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
So, you chose the less painful route? Coward.
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
29 Aug 2005 06:08:06 AM |
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in article h7p4h1debviq1v3gs12j0v4mjasnhtnhpj@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 8/28/05 9:32 PM:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:50:54 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Not a chance. The price is too painful.
So, you are religious because you are selfish? Only care about
yourself, do you?
Nope, my Christian faith specifically calls for us to love one another as God
loves us.
It's you atheist that do otherwise, or you blindly say yes to God while you
openly accept him.
Hm. I wonder. What circle do the selfish inhabit again...?
That's your circle - you tell me.
Remember, Jesus (if he existed) died for what he believed in. He was
willing to have a crown of thorns hammered onto his head. He was
willing to be scourged. He was willing to drag his eventual
death-device through the streets, while people threw rocks at him, only
to have iron spikes jammed through his extremities, then lifted up to be
hung on those iron spikes, die on the cross, and have a spear jammed
through his torso.
Was the price too painful for Jesus?
He did it by choice. He could have run away. So you tell me.
Only because He know He could hold it over our heads for all
eternity...
Paul
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
31 Aug 2005 04:59:08 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:08:06 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
Only because He know He could hold it over our heads for all
eternity...
No, dumb one. Remember, he was fully man.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
31 Aug 2005 07:56:12 PM |
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in article 9qvah1l3oejg4vlasvi05hbqe2oa8ani37@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 8/31/05 5:59 AM:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:08:06 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
Only because He know He could hold it over our heads for all
eternity...
No, dumb one. Remember, he was fully man.
You're man...and YOU hold things over other people.
Paul
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
02 Sep 2005 01:02:09 PM |
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:56:12 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
Only because He know He could hold it over our heads for all
eternity...
No, dumb one. Remember, he was fully man.
You're man...and YOU hold things over other people.
I'm not perfect - God is perfect.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
02 Sep 2005 08:09:41 PM |
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in article kr4hh1l624s5sunf1fg1bggsa9vnsejmuq@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 9/2/05 2:02 PM:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:56:12 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote:
Only because He know He could hold it over our heads for all
eternity...
No, dumb one. Remember, he was fully man.
You're man...and YOU hold things over other people.
I'm not perfect - God is perfect.
Which is why He doesn't feel the need to do anything for us, the
imperfect...
Paul
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
28 Aug 2005 04:28:54 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:41:22 +0100, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Were they from street vendors?
Don't know you're own religion very well, do you duke?
The real are not for sale, at least usually.
The relics of the cross are held amongst other places (there are parts of it
all over the world) in the Church of the Holy Cross, Rome and the chains
that alllegedly bound St Peter are held in a second church which Roman
Catholics are supposed to visit during a Holy Year, or Anno Santos.
That particular church is known as St Pietro in Vincoli.
I visited it during Anno Santos in 1975
What I actually bought from a street vendor that time was a huge wooden
rosary set, about 8 feet long altogether.
Very tasteful - I even had them blessed by the Pope himself.
As I thought, not something made by the Carpenter.
Have you made your Rome pilgrimage yet?
All good little catholics are supposed to make the effort, especially during
a Holy Year.
You should go - it's a real eye opener.
You get to see what the catholic church is really all about, unless you go
around with your eyes closed, of course.
Oh, I already have a pretty good idea.
I would recommend a visit to the Ossuary, or bone chamber, if you can swing
it - it's not normally open to the public.
It's where they put all of the dodgy priests - the ones they couldn't bury
in consecrated ground.
Ask the Capuchin monks to show you the bones of the Borgia popes, or maybe
the remnants of Pope Joan.
And before you start claiming that Pope Joan didn't exist, or that Pope Joan
wasn't found out when she went into labour at the Vatican - ask them why an
incoming pope is checked for testicles.
Oh, there was a Joan, but she wan't pope.
After the Pope Joan debacle, the Roman Church stipulated that anyone elected
Pope should prove that his genitalia were intact. To this end a special
chair was fashioned that had a horseshoe-shaped seat. The Pope to be would
sit on the seat and the cardinals would pass by, checking the papal
procession and proclaiming: 'testiculos habet et bene pendentes'. A loose
translation being: 'testicles he has and well-hung ones'.
How about that.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
28 Aug 2005 03:27:03 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 06:03:54 +0100, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Just a question, if Jesus was a carpenter, where are the items he made?
Why isn't there any furniture he made?
You mean you've never seen the Holy Pipe Rack?
What about the Sacred Coffee Table and the Jerusalem Medicine Cabinet?
See??
Nope, I've never see(n) any.
Why not?
The PROOF is right there befiore your eyes and you choose to ignore it!!
Seriously though, this puts me in mind of a visit to Rome I once made and
was amazed by the silliness of some of the things I was supposed to believe
were Holy Relics - pieces of the Holy Cross, the chains St Peter was bound
in, etc...
Maybe they were.
But probably weren't.
The place was full of them -although I do believe the RC church feel a
little embarassed about these relics now and play them down a bit.
Were they from street vendors?
....what should this matter?
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Our God the brown skin carpenter |
28 Aug 2005 10:26:21 AM |
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in article 88a3h19oi1ksjde7ivppf4ijgr1nbtsa95@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 8/28/05 8:10 AM:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 06:03:54 +0100, "Steve O" <stoboyle@hotmail.com> wrote:
Just a question, if Jesus was a carpenter, where are the items he made?
Why isn't there any furniture he made?
You mean you've never seen the Holy Pipe Rack?
What about the Sacred Coffee Table and the Jerusalem Medicine Cabinet?
See??
Nope, I've never see(n) any.
The PROOF is right there befiore your eyes and you choose to ignore it!!
Seriously though, this puts me in mind of a visit to Rome I once made and
was amazed by the silliness of some of the things I was supposed to believe
were Holy Relics - pieces of the Holy Cross, the chains St Peter was bound
in, etc...
Maybe they were.
The place was full of them -although I do believe the RC church feel a
little embarassed about these relics now and play them down a bit.
Were they from street vendors?
Goofy, but al least you're not like Mark Johnson....HE'S trying to
push the notion that Joseph was the first yuppie, so he can claim Catholics
from the beginning are meant by God to bask in upscale prosperity, and try
to rid the Church of that unpleasant image of its being populated with only
working stiffs, living from paycheck to paycheck.
Paul
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