"Dave" <prplbn@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1149895264.219844.32680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com:

Hotel Charlie One wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:KfGdnYDn6-PTSRTZnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@giganews.com:

How dare these 'do-gooders' tell this hard working business owner
that he must kowtow to those who don't have the common decency to
learn our native tongue. If they don't like it, they can always
go home and cook a meal ( for a change ).

You mean like atheists being forced to kowtow to the Christian
right and being called unpatriotic because we laugh at the notion
of "God Bless America"?

You mean like all of us who have to kowtow to "family values"
groups when these groups can successfully get the FCC to coercively
censor (via fines) broadcasters despite a Constitution which
permits freedom of the press (electronic or otherwise).

You finally got one right Jon. How dare these bastards tell a
liberty loving people how to live their lives. It's past due that
we Americans remember that the first motto on the first coin minted
by the newly established United States of America was "Mind Your
Own Business".

While I'm not going to go so far as to say that he should be
required to take the sign down I can't agree with Young's
sentiments. I could symapthise with a resturant owner taking the
stance that his staff should not be expected to know or learn any
language besides English but what is the point of insisting that
staff fluent in foreign language refuse to do so? Like most of the
causes Young supports, it appears that this is not really about
making life easier for white, Christian, heterosexual, English
speaking American males but about making life harder for everyone
else.

To me, this is just a simple business decision. The guys apparently
has enough business that he can chase business away. If he can, more
power to him. But as I saw on the TV news covering the story, he has
always had a competitor across the street. His competitor will says he
will serve anybody.

The owner is apparently as bigoted as they come. As for insisting for
his staff also speak only English, another business decision. He can
lose a bunch of employees too.

It's just a business decision, just like having a Jesus trinket on the
front door of your business. It might get some customers, but it will
guarantee a loss of some too. I wouldn't eat at his place just as I
don't shop at businesses that have Jesus trinkets in view. But then
again, it's a business decision.

How about people who are traveling in this coutry want to try this
philly steak?
How about people who are diable to speak?
How about people who are too old to learn English?

I know a lots of Americans who are travelling in foreign coutries speak
English to buy food...

Miriam Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> writes:

Bretts' Ghost wrote:

youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

How dare these 'do-gooders' tell this hard working business owner that he
must kowtow to those who don't have the common decency to learn our native
tongue. If they don't like it, they can always go home and cook a meal (
for a change ).



http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-69englishonly%2C0%2C3624518.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines


PHILADELPHIA -- A City Council member jumped into the debate over a
sign at one of Philadelphia's best-known cheesesteak joints that reads:
``This Is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING 'SPEAK ENGLISH.' ''

During the council's meeting Thursday, Councilman Jim Kenney asked
Geno's owner Joseph Vento to take the small sign down. The English-only
ordering sign has irritated some activists in the diverse neighborhood of
South Philadelphia and drawn national attention.

``It's such an iconic institution and business, one that is that
visible for many of our residents, for the region and the world,'' Kenney
said.

Vento, whose grandparents struggled to learn English after immigrating

from Sicily in the 1920s, said his staff is glad to help non-native speakers

order in English and no one has been turned away because of a language
barrier.

``I don't see much of a big deal about learning to say Cheez Whiz,''
he told ABC-TV's ``Good Morning America'' on Friday.

If you don't understand Philly slang, then you have no business
ordering a "cheese steak" anyway.

Quiz:

1. If you order a "steak" in Phillly, what does that mean?

2. What does "wit" mean?

3. What does "witout" mean?

Yo! Stay the hell out of south Philly if you can't answer those
questions, and certainly don't order a "cheese steak". They'll laugh
your ***** out of town and you'll be lucky if they don't kick it first.

I remember that particular kind of sandwich being called a "steak and
cheese" sandwich. The more important question of course is what kind of
cheese do they put on one? Out here on the west coast they "think" any
place that makes a sandwich (of any kind) is a "deli" (of course you
can't get a Reuben or knishes there <g>) and the "cheese steak" places
serve them with (wait for it:) *SWISS* cheese!!!
Of course the opposite is true of Mexican food on the east coast :) (It
just tastes weird when prepared by Puerto Ricans <g>)

Apparently, judging from the story, this place uses Cheese Whiz.
How "authentic" can their cheese steaks be?

---
Merlyn LeRoy

Miriam Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> writes:

Bretts' Ghost wrote:

youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

How dare these 'do-gooders' tell this hard working business owner that he
must kowtow to those who don't have the common decency to learn our native
tongue. If they don't like it, they can always go home and cook a meal (
for a change ).



http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-69englishonly%2C0%2C3624518.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines


PHILADELPHIA -- A City Council member jumped into the debate over a
sign at one of Philadelphia's best-known cheesesteak joints that reads:
``This Is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING 'SPEAK ENGLISH.' ''

During the council's meeting Thursday, Councilman Jim Kenney asked
Geno's owner Joseph Vento to take the small sign down. The English-only
ordering sign has irritated some activists in the diverse neighborhood of
South Philadelphia and drawn national attention.

``It's such an iconic institution and business, one that is that
visible for many of our residents, for the region and the world,'' Kenney
said.

Vento, whose grandparents struggled to learn English after immigrating
from Sicily in the 1920s, said his staff is glad to help non-native speakers
order in English and no one has been turned away because of a language
barrier.

``I don't see much of a big deal about learning to say Cheez Whiz,''
he told ABC-TV's ``Good Morning America'' on Friday.

If you don't understand Philly slang, then you have no business
ordering a "cheese steak" anyway.

Quiz:

1. If you order a "steak" in Phillly, what does that mean?

2. What does "wit" mean?

3. What does "witout" mean?

Yo! Stay the hell out of south Philly if you can't answer those
questions, and certainly don't order a "cheese steak". They'll laugh
your ***** out of town and you'll be lucky if they don't kick it first.

I remember that particular kind of sandwich being called a "steak and
cheese" sandwich. The more important question of course is what kind of
cheese do they put on one? Out here on the west coast they "think" any
place that makes a sandwich (of any kind) is a "deli" (of course you
can't get a Reuben or knishes there <g>) and the "cheese steak" places
serve them with (wait for it:) *SWISS* cheese!!!
Of course the opposite is true of Mexican food on the east coast :) (It
just tastes weird when prepared by Puerto Ricans <g>)

Apparently, judging from the story, this place uses Cheese Whiz.
How "authentic" can their cheese steaks be?

Miriam Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> writes:

Bretts' Ghost wrote:

youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

How dare these 'do-gooders' tell this hard working business owner that he
must kowtow to those who don't have the common decency to learn our native
tongue. If they don't like it, they can always go home and cook a meal (
for a change ).



http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-69englishonly%2C0%2C3624518.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines


PHILADELPHIA -- A City Council member jumped into the debate over a
sign at one of Philadelphia's best-known cheesesteak joints that reads:
``This Is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING 'SPEAK ENGLISH.' ''

During the council's meeting Thursday, Councilman Jim Kenney asked
Geno's owner Joseph Vento to take the small sign down. The English-only
ordering sign has irritated some activists in the diverse neighborhood of
South Philadelphia and drawn national attention.

``It's such an iconic institution and business, one that is that
visible for many of our residents, for the region and the world,'' Kenney
said.

Vento, whose grandparents struggled to learn English after immigrating
from Sicily in the 1920s, said his staff is glad to help non-native speakers
order in English and no one has been turned away because of a language
barrier.

``I don't see much of a big deal about learning to say Cheez Whiz,''
he told ABC-TV's ``Good Morning America'' on Friday.

If you don't understand Philly slang, then you have no business
ordering a "cheese steak" anyway.

Quiz:

1. If you order a "steak" in Phillly, what does that mean?

2. What does "wit" mean?

3. What does "witout" mean?

Yo! Stay the hell out of south Philly if you can't answer those
questions, and certainly don't order a "cheese steak". They'll laugh
your ***** out of town and you'll be lucky if they don't kick it first.

I remember that particular kind of sandwich being called a "steak and
cheese" sandwich. The more important question of course is what kind of
cheese do they put on one? Out here on the west coast they "think" any
place that makes a sandwich (of any kind) is a "deli" (of course you
can't get a Reuben or knishes there <g>) and the "cheese steak" places
serve them with (wait for it:) *SWISS* cheese!!!
Of course the opposite is true of Mexican food on the east coast :) (It
just tastes weird when prepared by Puerto Ricans <g>)

Apparently, judging from the story, this place uses Cheese Whiz.
How "authentic" can their cheese steaks be?