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11 Aug 2007 07:17:29 PM |
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Palestinian land losses from 1947 to present. |
See the fancy map at http://Muvy.org
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Palestinian land losses from 1947 to present. |
12 Aug 2007 11:15:59 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:17:29 -0700, wrote:
See the fancy map at http://Muvy.org
It leaves out ALL of Transjordan. which is MANY TIMES the area of the
entire state of Israel.
Your information isn't very useful, except to liars.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Palestinian land losses from 1947 to present. |
13 Aug 2007 04:20:40 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:17:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
useful_infos@yahoo.com in
<1186877849.348118.4950@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> wrote:
See the fancy map at http://Muvy.org
Here is the actual link:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6761/palastinianlandloss8tz.gif
What a dishonest page. The first map asserts that any part of the land
not directly occupied by a Jew was "Palestinian" land. In fact, most
of the land was unoccupied at the time (hint: the south is the Negev
Desert). The map ignores all of the land that was given to the
Palestinians, we call it Jordan today. And it ignores that through
1948 Jews were legally buying land. And it is simply factually wrong
since Jews occupied far more land than that in 1947. The initial
partition plan by the U.N. roughly gave land to Israel that was
occupied by Jews. So the second map actually represents where people
were living.
Then we have the change from map 2 to map 3 that somehow forgot to
mention that the Arab countries attacked Israel, trying to, as they
said, push all of the Jews into the sea. Somehow I fail to have
sympathy for someone who failed at their attempted genocide.
Map 4 is also simply wrong about what land Palestinians hold. You
notice that none of these maps even pretend to have sources.
All in all, a piece of dishonest garbage.
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Matt Silberstein
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Palestinian land losses from 1947 to present. |
15 Aug 2007 02:39:53 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:17:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,
useful_in...@yahoo.com in
<1186877849.348118.4...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> wrote:
See the fancy map athttp://Muvy.org
On Aug 13, 2:20 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Here is the actual link:http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6761/palastinianlandloss8tz.gif
What a dishonest page. The first map asserts that any part of the land
not directly occupied by a Jew was "Palestinian" land. In fact, most
of the land was unoccupied at the time (hint: the south is the Negev
Desert). The map ignores all of the land that was given to the
Palestinians, we call it Jordan today.
It was given to Arabs; specifically, to the Hashimis. There were no
"Palestinians" at the time.
And it ignores that through 1948 Jews were legally buying land.
Not noted on the map: much of the land bought by Jews through 1948 was
sold by Arab landowners -- specifically, Arab landowners who were
busily instigating violence against the Jews. Even the Mufti and his
clan sold land to Jews, not to mention every member of the Arab Higher
Committee.
Deborah
And it is simply factually wrong
since Jews occupied far more land than that in 1947. The initial
partition plan by the U.N. roughly gave land to Israel that was
occupied by Jews. So the second map actually represents where people
were living.
Then we have the change from map 2 to map 3 that somehow forgot to
mention that the Arab countries attacked Israel, trying to, as they
said, push all of the Jews into the sea. Somehow I fail to have
sympathy for someone who failed at their attempted genocide.
Map 4 is also simply wrong about what land Palestinians hold. You
notice that none of these maps even pretend to have sources.
All in all, a piece of dishonest garbage.
--
Matt Silberstein
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