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Religions > Atheism |
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"MarkA" |
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28 Sep 2007 10:35:23 AM |
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Pan newsreader question |
I use Pan 0.14.2.91 as my preferred news reader, currently running under
Ubuntu x86_64. Every so often, Pan seems to loose the parent articles in
various threads, even if they are fairly recent. If I reload all the
articles in the newsgroup, it will find articles much older than the ones
that have disappeared, and often, even after reloading, will still not be
able to rebuild the threads. Instead of having the post that started a
thread, will all subsequent posts branching out from it, it will just
start showing individual branches with at "Re:" in front.
Anyone have any ideas on what is going on? I haven't really dug into the
internal data cache structure enough to see if there are any clues there.
--
MarkA
(My OTHER sig line is clever)
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Pan newsreader question |
28 Sep 2007 02:34:16 PM |
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In article <pan.2007.09.28.15.35.23.395995@nowhere.com>, MarkA
<toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
I use Pan 0.14.2.91 as my preferred news reader, currently running under
Ubuntu x86_64. Every so often, Pan seems to loose the parent articles in
various threads, even if they are fairly recent. If I reload all the
articles in the newsgroup, it will find articles much older than the ones
that have disappeared, and often, even after reloading, will still not be
able to rebuild the threads. Instead of having the post that started a
thread, will all subsequent posts branching out from it, it will just
start showing individual branches with at "Re:" in front.
Anyone have any ideas on what is going on? I haven't really dug into the
internal data cache structure enough to see if there are any clues there.
Four men with styrofoam cups from Starbucks are coming to adjust your
computer, Mark. They heard you were running non-Micro$oft compliant
software. They can't allow that to happen. Please be calm. Everything
will be all right after they've installed the proper "updates."
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Pan newsreader question |
28 Sep 2007 02:58:25 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:35:23 -0400, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2007.09.28.15.35.23.395995@nowhere.com>:
I use Pan 0.14.2.91 as my preferred news reader, currently running under
Ubuntu x86_64. Every so often, Pan seems to loose the parent articles in
various threads, even if they are fairly recent. If I reload all the
articles in the newsgroup, it will find articles much older than the ones
that have disappeared, and often, even after reloading, will still not be
able to rebuild the threads. Instead of having the post that started a
thread, will all subsequent posts branching out from it, it will just
start showing individual branches with at "Re:" in front.
Anyone have any ideas on what is going on? I haven't really dug into the
internal data cache structure enough to see if there are any clues there.
I was using the beta versions of Pan up to 0.131, and it was acting the
same way. I didn't notice it when I was using the stable versions though.
I just got disgusted with the whole thing and am now using slrn. It works
like a dream.
--
Bushism 3-31:
"I was a prisoner, too, but for bad reasons."
--To Argentinian president Nestor Kirchner, on being told that all but one
of the Argentinian delegates to a summit meeting were imprisoned during the
military dictatorship; Monterrey, Mexico; January 13, 2004
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Pan newsreader question |
08 Oct 2007 01:00:47 PM |
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On 2007-09-28, Bill Baker <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:35:23 -0400, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2007.09.28.15.35.23.395995@nowhere.com>:
I use Pan 0.14.2.91 as my preferred news reader, currently running under
Ubuntu x86_64. Every so often, Pan seems to loose the parent articles in
various threads, even if they are fairly recent. If I reload all the
articles in the newsgroup, it will find articles much older than the ones
that have disappeared, and often, even after reloading, will still not be
able to rebuild the threads. Instead of having the post that started a
thread, will all subsequent posts branching out from it, it will just
start showing individual branches with at "Re:" in front.
Anyone have any ideas on what is going on? I haven't really dug into the
internal data cache structure enough to see if there are any clues there.
I was using the beta versions of Pan up to 0.131, and it was acting the
same way. I didn't notice it when I was using the stable versions though.
I just got disgusted with the whole thing and am now using slrn. It works
like a dream.
Based on your suggestion, I am giving slrn a try. It is taking a little
getting used to, but it looks promising so far. I am using it to post
this right now.
--
MarkA
(This space accidentally filled in)
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Pan newsreader question |
08 Oct 2007 11:49:44 PM |
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On 08 Oct 2007 18:00:47 GMT, MarkA <john@doe.com> wrote in message
news:<470a704f$0$16542$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
On 2007-09-28, Bill Baker <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:35:23 -0400, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2007.09.28.15.35.23.395995@nowhere.com>:
I use Pan 0.14.2.91 as my preferred news reader, currently running under
Ubuntu x86_64. Every so often, Pan seems to loose the parent articles in
various threads, even if they are fairly recent. If I reload all the
articles in the newsgroup, it will find articles much older than the ones
that have disappeared, and often, even after reloading, will still not be
able to rebuild the threads. Instead of having the post that started a
thread, will all subsequent posts branching out from it, it will just
start showing individual branches with at "Re:" in front.
Anyone have any ideas on what is going on? I haven't really dug into the
internal data cache structure enough to see if there are any clues there.
I was using the beta versions of Pan up to 0.131, and it was acting the
same way. I didn't notice it when I was using the stable versions though.
I just got disgusted with the whole thing and am now using slrn. It works
like a dream.
Based on your suggestion, I am giving slrn a try. It is taking a little
getting used to, but it looks promising so far. I am using it to post
this right now.
Cool! Yeah, it does take a little getting used to. But once you do,
it's easy to navigate.
--
Bushism 5-27/28:
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
--Florence, South Carolina; January 11, 2000
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Pan newsreader question |
09 Oct 2007 06:32:27 AM |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:49:44 +0000, Bill Baker wrote:
On 08 Oct 2007 18:00:47 GMT, MarkA <john@doe.com> wrote in message
news:<470a704f$0$16542$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
On 2007-09-28, Bill Baker <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:35:23 -0400, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2007.09.28.15.35.23.395995@nowhere.com>:
I use Pan 0.14.2.91 as my preferred news reader, currently running under
Ubuntu x86_64. Every so often, Pan seems to loose the parent articles in
various threads, even if they are fairly recent. If I reload all the
articles in the newsgroup, it will find articles much older than the ones
that have disappeared, and often, even after reloading, will still not be
able to rebuild the threads. Instead of having the post that started a
thread, will all subsequent posts branching out from it, it will just
start showing individual branches with at "Re:" in front.
Anyone have any ideas on what is going on? I haven't really dug into the
internal data cache structure enough to see if there are any clues there.
I was using the beta versions of Pan up to 0.131, and it was acting the
same way. I didn't notice it when I was using the stable versions though.
I just got disgusted with the whole thing and am now using slrn. It works
like a dream.
Based on your suggestion, I am giving slrn a try. It is taking a little
getting used to, but it looks promising so far. I am using it to post
this right now.
Cool! Yeah, it does take a little getting used to. But once you do,
it's easy to navigate.
I am just starting to dig into the FM (as in RTFM). Can it be configured
to cache headers on your local system? Everytime I want to leave and
re-enter alt.atheism, it wants to spend an hour downloading 500,000
headers from my ISP's news server, as if it had never seen them before.
--
MarkA
(My OTHER sig line is clever)
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Pan newsreader question |
09 Oct 2007 09:08:22 AM |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:32:27 -0400, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
message news:<pan.2007.10.09.11.32.25.483062@nowhere.com>:
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:49:44 +0000, Bill Baker wrote:
On 08 Oct 2007 18:00:47 GMT, MarkA <john@doe.com> wrote in message
news:<470a704f$0$16542$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
On 2007-09-28, Bill Baker <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:35:23 -0400, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2007.09.28.15.35.23.395995@nowhere.com>:
I use Pan 0.14.2.91 as my preferred news reader, currently running under
Ubuntu x86_64. Every so often, Pan seems to loose the parent articles in
various threads, even if they are fairly recent. If I reload all the
articles in the newsgroup, it will find articles much older than the ones
that have disappeared, and often, even after reloading, will still not be
able to rebuild the threads. Instead of having the post that started a
thread, will all subsequent posts branching out from it, it will just
start showing individual branches with at "Re:" in front.
Anyone have any ideas on what is going on? I haven't really dug into the
internal data cache structure enough to see if there are any clues there.
I was using the beta versions of Pan up to 0.131, and it was acting the
same way. I didn't notice it when I was using the stable versions though.
I just got disgusted with the whole thing and am now using slrn. It works
like a dream.
Based on your suggestion, I am giving slrn a try. It is taking a little
getting used to, but it looks promising so far. I am using it to post
this right now.
Cool! Yeah, it does take a little getting used to. But once you do,
it's easy to navigate.
I am just starting to dig into the FM (as in RTFM). Can it be configured
to cache headers on your local system? Everytime I want to leave and
re-enter alt.atheism, it wants to spend an hour downloading 500,000
headers from my ISP's news server, as if it had never seen them before.
Not as far as I know. What it does instead is it downloads only the
new headers. If there are no new headers it asks you how many headers
you want to load. It assumes that if you marked something as read
you don't want to read it again. I keep my place in threads I'm
following by marking the last article as unread (u).
--
Bushism 8-3:
"Unfairly but truthfully, our party has been tagged as being against
things. Anti-immigrant, for example. And we're not a party of
anti-immigrants. Quite the opposite. We're a party that welcomes people."
--Cleveland, Ohio; July 1, 2000
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Pan newsreader question |
09 Oct 2007 12:13:14 PM |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:32:27 -0400, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
I am just starting to dig into the FM (as in RTFM). Can it be configured
to cache headers on your local system? Everytime I want to leave and
re-enter alt.atheism, it wants to spend an hour downloading 500,000
headers from my ISP's news server, as if it had never seen them before.
You have to retrieve headers in alt.atheism more often than once every
15 minutes. :)
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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