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"J Young" |
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16 Dec 2006 03:25:06 PM |
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Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
Where are the critics now?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2728635
Dec 15, 2006 - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A Vatican preacher said on
Friday in the presence of Pope Benedict that the Catholic Church should
hold a worldwide day of fasting and penitence to ask forgiveness for
its priestly sexual abuse scandals.
Father Raniero Cantalamessa, whose official title is "preacher of the
papal household," made the suggestion during a pre-Christmas sermon to
the Pope and Vatican officials.
Cantalamessa said the Church had "wept and sighed" recently over
"abominations committed by her very ministers and pastors."
A U.S. sexual abuse scandal which erupted in Boston in 2002 spread to
almost every Catholic diocese in the country. Many priests were
prosecuted and payments of millions of dollars were made to scores of
victims.
U.S. church files have also revealed that some bishops repeatedly
transferred priests accused of abusing minors to other parishes rather
than reporting them to police.
Sexual abuse scandals have also hit Roman Catholic Churches in Ireland
and other countries.
Cantalamessa said the time had come for the Church to "weep before God"
over the scandal against "the smallest of its brothers."
He said the Church should call a "a day of fasting and penitence, at
the local and national level, where the problem was worst, to publicly
express sorrow before God and solidarity with the victims."
Such a day would, he said, help "reconciliation of souls" so the Church
could get back on the path of doing its work "with a renewed heart."
Last October, Benedict said the wounds from sexual abuse in the Church
"run deep," and instructed bishops to do whatever necessary to prevent
repeat offences and rebuild confidence.
The year before he became pope in 2005, then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
gave a sermon decrying the "filth" in the Church.
Benedict has taken a much clearer line on sexual abuse than his
predecessor John Paul. Last May, he disciplined the elderly Mexican
founder of a Roman Catholic religious group who had been accused of
sexual abuse, ordering him to retire to a life of "prayer and
penitence."
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 03:42:41 PM |
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"J Young" <> wrote in message
Benedict has taken a much clearer line on sexual abuse than his
predecessor John Paul. Last May, he disciplined the elderly Mexican
founder of a Roman Catholic religious group who had been accused of
sexual abuse, ordering him to retire to a life of "prayer and
penitence."
He should have had the pedo stand trial, and be sent to jail.
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| User: "enquiring minds" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 08:29:02 PM |
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Zadok wrote:
"J Young" <> wrote in message
Benedict has taken a much clearer line on sexual abuse than his
predecessor John Paul. Last May, he disciplined the elderly Mexican
founder of a Roman Catholic religious group who had been accused of
sexual abuse, ordering him to retire to a life of "prayer and
penitence."
He should have had the pedo stand trial, and be sent to jail.
Remember, parents pay money to send their kids to catholic school and
catholic church.
Most priests are at least 20 years old? Think of 20 years old males who
can ignore their sex drive
by praying? Then take the priest into the church or school where well
dressed
beautiful children and young adults of all ages are present and again
tell the man
of 20 years of age who prays all day to pray some more when his sex
drive is running
wild. Doesn't make sense, does it? And it doesn't work.
If praying worked, there would be no need for birth control for any
catholic.
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 03:48:25 PM |
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A member of both the RCC and NAMBLA, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote
in message news:1166304306.180570.113690@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
Where are the critics now?
Right where you'd expect them to be: laughing their asses off at the feeble
troll below.
Dec 15, 2006 - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A Vatican preacher said on
Friday in the presence of Pope Benedict that the Catholic Church should
hold a worldwide day of fasting and penitence to ask forgiveness for
its priestly sexual abuse scandals.
A day of "fasting" is supposed to excuse years of sexual abuse in the RCC?
<insert madcap laugh here>
That's a good one, IBen!
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 11:43:19 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Where are the critics now?
Still here.
Dec 15, 2006 - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A Vatican preacher said on
Friday in the presence of Pope Benedict that the Catholic Church should
hold a worldwide day of fasting and penitence to ask forgiveness for
its priestly sexual abuse scandals.
It won't work. The fundamental corruption still exists. The pope and
his cronies still think that they are better than us mere human beings
and as long as they have that attitude they will continue to get
caught being immoral hypocrites.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 06:17:16 PM |
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J Young schrieb:
Where are the critics now?
Idiot... Like a "penitence day" is going to compensate for a fucked-up
life...
Tell us, J fucking Young, is there anything decent about you AT ALL?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 09:53:07 PM |
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On 16 Dec 2006 16:17:16 -0800, "Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
J Young schrieb:
Where are the critics now?
Idiot... Like a "penitence day" is going to compensate for a fucked-up
life...
Tell us, J fucking Young, is there anything decent about you AT ALL?
I hope that, when a few priests rape HIM, he sees it in his heart to
just forgive them.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe is fine tuned
for life is akin to a puddle being surprised at how well it
fits its hole"
- Douglas Adams
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "enquiring minds" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 08:43:16 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Where are the critics now?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2728635
Dec 15, 2006 - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A Vatican preacher said on
Friday in the presence of Pope Benedict that the Catholic Church should
hold a worldwide day of fasting and penitence to ask forgiveness for
its priestly sexual abuse scandals.
Father Raniero Cantalamessa, whose official title is "preacher of the
papal household," made the suggestion during a pre-Christmas sermon to
the Pope and Vatican officials.
Cantalamessa said the Church had "wept and sighed" recently over
"abominations committed by her very ministers and pastors."
A U.S. sexual abuse scandal which erupted in Boston in 2002 spread to
almost every Catholic diocese in the country. Many priests were
prosecuted and payments of millions of dollars were made to scores of
victims.
Just how much is fair payment to a male victim who had is 7, 11 or 15
year old butt cheeks spread wide apart to take an erect male penis in
ripping the ***** on its way and causing bleeding and tears. Even if it
happened only once casusing permanent mental and physical damage to this
7, 11 or 15 year old boy, how much is adequate financial payment in
dollars
and cents from the Catholic church?
U.S. church files have also revealed that some bishops repeatedly
transferred priests accused of abusing minors to other parishes rather
than reporting them to police.
Sexual abuse scandals have also hit Roman Catholic Churches in Ireland
and other countries.
Cantalamessa said the time had come for the Church to "weep before God"
over the scandal against "the smallest of its brothers."
He said the Church should call a "a day of fasting and penitence, at
the local and national level, where the problem was worst, to publicly
express sorrow before God and solidarity with the victims."
Such a day would, he said, help "reconciliation of souls" so the Church
could get back on the path of doing its work "with a renewed heart."
Which raises the question, how can the church find a man of 20 years of
age
who is willing to have no sex with anyone, ugly, beautiful, young or
old, rich
or poor for his entire life when before him all he will ever see are the
most
young, beautfiul well dressed individuals God has made?
Last October, Benedict said the wounds from sexual abuse in the Church
"run deep," and instructed bishops to do whatever necessary to prevent
repeat offences and rebuild confidence.
What would be necessary to prevent abuse of any kind within the church
is to
have a woman present at all times that any priest is present with anyone
under the age of 20?
The year before he became pope in 2005, then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger
gave a sermon decrying the "filth" in the Church.
Benedict has taken a much clearer line on sexual abuse than his
predecessor John Paul. Last May, he disciplined the elderly Mexican
founder of a Roman Catholic religious group who had been accused of
sexual abuse, ordering him to retire to a life of "prayer and
penitence."
Until the latter years of John Pauls reign as Pope, the chuch and the
powerful
people within the congregation were able to keep a lid or cover on any
such complaints.
And with billions of collection plate dollars going out the front doors
of the catholic
church to pay lawyers and victims, the pressure is even greater than at
any time in
catholic history to keep the money inside the chruch and the scandals
tightly sealed
and out of the courts and out of public hearing.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Papal preacher wants "penitence day" for sex abuse |
16 Dec 2006 04:43:16 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Where are the critics now?
Right here, you moron. Will fasting help with the investigations? Will
penitence help the victims? ***** you. If these people were polititians
or rock stars, they'd be *under* the jail. You child-fucking sickos are
just sorry you got caught.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 Dec 2006 04:34:05 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:25:06 -0800, J Young wrote:
Where are the critics now?
Pretending to be sorry doesn't cut it.
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Mark K. Bilbo
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alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
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