floresriki...@hotmail.com wrote:

Newton's Psychosis
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/158/5/821-a

Gee, a 6-year-old piece written by a couple of Canooky Hebrews,
"explaining" to us how the greatest scientific genius (and Christian)
who ever lived was a psycho.

The fact that he was a psycho was never disputed by anyone.

John Baker wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:23:42 -0700, "S.Liberman"
<sheldon.liber...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 21, 1:45 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

J Young wrote:

I am not in the least suprised that the greatest scientist in history
was a deeply religious man. Add to this Einstein's belief in God and
guess what? There *IS* a God.

Lunacy - back then he would have got nowhere with his public appointments
were he to have had the courage to decry ancient myths. No doubt he
thought about it many times but had more sense.

Really? If science and religion are incompatible as you believe, how
would Newton, as a man of science have been exoriated for not
denouncing religion as being incompatible with his academic product?

Newton was a brilliant man, but he wasn't exactly what you'd call
sane. In any case, in Newton's day, if you *were* an atheist, you
certainly didn't admit it.

Absolutely, a clear cut logical response.

Science and primitive religions are on the opposite ends of the
compatibility pole

What, pray tell, is a compatibility pole? Two sets of ideas are either
compatible or they are not. They need no points on a spectrum to
connect them. In this case, science and religion are very compatible.

Yep. Modern science and Genesis fit like a hand in a glove, don't
they? <G>

They do indeed:

Genesis 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

Genesis 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
Genesis 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

Genesis 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
Genesis 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

Genesis 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
Genesis 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.

Bob Young
Humanist Brit.

PS
I do have the pleasure of knowing that I went to the same school as Isaac
Newton. No doubt he was trotted across the road for 'prayers' once a
week at St Wulfram's Church and made to chant and swear The Apostle's
Creed. This had a good number of we boys thinking about religious dogma
and a many of us have never looked back.

Nature tells man to consult reason, and to take it for his guide:
religion teaches him that his reason is corrupted, that it is only a
treacherous guide, given by a deceitful God to lead his creatures
astray. Nature tells man to enlighten himself, to search after truth, to
instruct himself in his duties: religion enjoins him to examine nothing,
to remain in ignorance, to fear truth.
[Paul-Henri Thiry, Baron d'Holbach (1723-1789)]

I wonder what scripture the good Baron consulted to conclude that
religion is an instrument for the corruption of man.

One needn't consult scripture at all to come to that conclusion. One
need only observe the words and deeds of those who claim to be
"religious".

"An appealing intuitive argument for atheism is the mind blowing
stupidity of religious fundamentalists." -- Ginger Young

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/papers_show_isaac_newtons_reli.php

JERUSALEM - Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton calculating
the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise dimensions of
the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting passages of the Bible
- exhibited this week for the first time - lay bare the little-known
religious intensity of a man many consider history's greatest
scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law - even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters - and combing the Old Testament's Book of
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On Jun 21, 3:21 pm, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:23:42 -0700, "S. Liberman"

<sheldon.liber...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 21, 1:45 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

J Young wrote:

I am not in the least suprised that the greatest scientist in history
was a deeply religious man. Add to this Einstein's belief in God and
guess what? There *IS* a God.

Lunacy - back then he would have got nowhere with his public appointments
were he to have had the courage to decry ancient myths. No doubt he
thought about it many times but had more sense.

Really? If science and religion are incompatible as you believe, how
would Newton, as a man of science have been exoriated for not
denouncing religion as being incompatible with his academic product?

Newton was a brilliant man, but he wasn't exactly what you'd call
sane. In any case, in Newton's day, if you *were* an atheist, you
certainly didn't admit it.

You didn't have to espouse your religious beliefs either. If he didn't
believe his own convictions, what would have been the point of
expressing them to a supposedly athiestic scientific community?

Science and primitive religions are on the opposite ends of the
compatibility pole

What, pray tell, is a compatibility pole? Two sets of ideas are either
compatible or they are not. They need no points on a spectrum to
connect them. In this case, science and religion are very compatible.

Yep. Modern science and Genesis fit like a hand in a glove, don't
they? <G>

For instance?

Bob Young
Humanist Brit.

PS
I do have the pleasure of knowing that I went to the same school as Isaac
Newton. No doubt he was trotted across the road for 'prayers' once a
week at St Wulfram's Church and made to chant and swear The Apostle's
Creed. This had a good number of we boys thinking about religious dogma
and a many of us have never looked back.

Nature tells man to consult reason, and to take it for his guide:
religion teaches him that his reason is corrupted, that it is only a
treacherous guide, given by a deceitful God to lead his creatures
astray. Nature tells man to enlighten himself, to search after truth, to
instruct himself in his duties: religion enjoins him to examine nothing,
to remain in ignorance, to fear truth.
[Paul-Henri Thiry, Baron d'Holbach (1723-1789)]

I wonder what scripture the good Baron consulted to conclude that
religion is an instrument for the corruption of man.

One needn't consult scripture at all to come to that conclusion. One
need only observe the words and deeds of those who claim to be
"religious".

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/06/papers_show_isaac_newtons_reli.php

JERUSALEM - Three-century-old manuscripts by Isaac Newton calculating
the exact date of the apocalypse, detailing the precise dimensions of
the ancient temple in Jerusalem and interpreting passages of the Bible
- exhibited this week for the first time - lay bare the little-known
religious intensity of a man many consider history's greatest
scientist.

Newton, who died 280 years ago, is known for laying much of the
groundwork for modern physics, astronomy, math and optics. But in a
new Jerusalem exhibit, he appears as a scholar of deep faith who also
found time to write on Jewish law - even penning a few phrases in
careful Hebrew letters - and combing the Old Testament's Book of
Daniel for clues about the world's end- Hide quoted text -

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On Jun 21, 3:21 pm, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:23:42 -0700, "S. Liberman"

<sheldon.liber...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 21, 1:45 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:

J Young wrote:

I am not in the least suprised that the greatest scientist in history
was a deeply religious man. Add to this Einstein's belief in God and
guess what? There *IS* a God.

Lunacy - back then he would have got nowhere with his public appointments
were he to have had the courage to decry ancient myths. No doubt he
thought about it many times but had more sense.

Really? If science and religion are incompatible as you believe, how
would Newton, as a man of science have been exoriated for not
denouncing religion as being incompatible with his academic product?

Newton was a brilliant man, but he wasn't exactly what you'd call
sane. In any case, in Newton's day, if you *were* an atheist, you
certainly didn't admit it.

You didn't have to espouse your religious beliefs either. If he didn't
believe his own convictions, what would have been the point of
expressing them to a supposedly athiestic scientific community?