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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jd"
Date: 07 Apr 2007 08:24:05 PM
Object: Passover: a man became a god
Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and
Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".
Lesson: God chooses who He uses.
"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.
Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are:
and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to
destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a
feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance
for ever.
And Jesus came to strengthen that law....
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)
"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no
wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)
No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.
Jd
"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away." - Jesus (Luke 21:33)
.

User: "Bill M"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 08 Apr 2007 09:40:58 AM
"Jd" <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in message
news:h2ng13ltimj0leq9s8k2qggruelrcmhkbu@4ax.com...

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a god to
Pharaoh: and
Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses
where ye are:
and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not
be upon you to
destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall
keep it a
feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by
an ordinance
for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not
come to destroy,
but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one
tittle shall in no
wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.

Jd

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away." -
Jesus (Luke 21:33)

More Biblical nonsense!
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 08 Apr 2007 01:05:29 AM
In article <h2ng13ltimj0leq9s8k2qggruelrcmhkbu@4ax.com>,
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:


No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.

The laws of your god will never be nullified because your god never
existed to make them in the first place.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 08 Apr 2007 12:03:29 AM
Jd (jebus' dumbarse):

No one can deny it.

*hysterical laughter*
More hubris anyone?
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 12 Apr 2007 07:19:40 AM
On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and
Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are:
and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to
destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a
feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance
for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no
wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.

What "Laws of God"?
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 12 Apr 2007 06:53:07 PM
wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and
Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are:
and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to
destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a
feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance
for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no
wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?

All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.
Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.
Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....
"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)
Jd

.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 13 Apr 2007 10:46:58 AM
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.

So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)

Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 13 Apr 2007 11:12:52 PM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.

Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.
Jd
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 15 Apr 2007 04:18:21 PM
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made
thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy
prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over
you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I
smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations;
ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I
am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him.
Personally, I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is
sorta like computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with
the Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the
kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus
Christ (Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main

You're not a Christian. You don't even fake it very well.

points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.

God, I know. But who the HELL are you?
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 19 Apr 2007 05:28:18 PM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made
thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy
prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over
you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I
smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations;
ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I
am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him.
Personally, I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is
sorta like computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with
the Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the
kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus
Christ (Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main


You're not a Christian. You don't even fake it very well.

points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


God, I know. But who the HELL are you?

And you know Jesus too I'll bet.
Ac 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, "Jesus I know,
and Paul I know; but who are ye?"

Jd
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 20 Apr 2007 05:25:44 PM
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in news:tb1g23hod4mfncucvdhaqs34vge9ujhsdv@
4ax.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made
thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy
prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon

the

houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over
you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I
smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial;

and

ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations;
ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I
am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot

or

one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him.
Personally, I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is
sorta like computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with
the Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the
kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." -

Jesus

Christ (Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main


You're not a Christian. You don't even fake it very well.

points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


God, I know. But who the HELL are you?


And you know Jesus too I'll bet.

Ac 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, "Jesus I know,
and Paul I know; but who are ye?"

Yes, I know Jesus. No doubt the evil spirit that you've sold yourself
into slavery to knows Him too.
Cute twisting of scripture, though. I bet your evil spirit is really
good at THAT.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
.



User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 13 Apr 2007 11:20:25 PM
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.

Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.
Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 13 Apr 2007 11:40:37 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?

Let's not get personal.
jd
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 15 Apr 2007 04:20:03 PM
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made
thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy
prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon
the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass
over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you,
when I smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial;
and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your
generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.


And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I
am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot
or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him.
Personally, I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is
sorta like computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good
with the Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the
kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." -
Jesus Christ (Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of
hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance?
Who are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior
appears to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.

Lets. If you're a Christian, you're supposed to have a PERSONAL
relationship with God, through Jesus Christ. Your actions here prove,
beyond any reasonable doubt, that you do not.
Not only that, you do not seek one. What you seek are sycophants who
will stroke your ego. What you are doing is taking God's name in vain.
As I recall, He said not to do that.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
.

User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 14 Apr 2007 08:18:17 AM
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.

You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a Christian
but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect everyone to
sit still for your lies just because you claim to be Christian?
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 14 Apr 2007 05:51:05 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.


You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a Christian
but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect everyone to
sit still for your lies just because you claim to be Christian?

You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?
Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".
.....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.
Jd

.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 15 Apr 2007 04:22:28 PM
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have
made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy
prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon
the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass
over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you,
when I smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial;
and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your
generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for
ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one
jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all
be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the
general version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And
neither version do you have to memorize since God promised to
write them directly into your intellect if you make a deal with
Him. Personally, I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access)
which is sorta like computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good
with the Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once
had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the
kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." -
Jesus Christ (Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist
who pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my
main points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like
or comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants
irreguardless of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course
I cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of
hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance?
Who are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior
appears to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.


You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a Christian
but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect everyone to
sit still for your lies just because you claim to be Christian?


You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?

Not untold. But for a few centuries longer than we Christians have been
observing Easter (or Pascha as it's known in the original, Orthodox
churches).

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.

You know there's a huge problem with this, historically speaking (though
not as the allegory Paul says it is). Historically, the Egyptians were
not big into slavery. Now the ROMANS were huge into it.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
.

User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 14 Apr 2007 06:02:42 PM
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:51:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.


You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a Christian
but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect everyone to
sit still for your lies just because you claim to be Christian?


You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?

Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.

So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.
.
User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 15 Apr 2007 03:30:31 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:51:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.


You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a Christian
but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect everyone to
sit still for your lies just because you claim to be Christian?


You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?


Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.


So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.

Jesus confirmed Moses as well as the account where the Sodomites were
destroyed from the fire that fell from heaven.
"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away."
- Jesus (Luke 21:33)
Jd
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 15 Apr 2007 04:24:36 PM
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:91a523ldu8619spa1e7r6i3ape7h7ij9sp@4ax.com:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:51:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have
made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be
thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token
upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I
will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to
destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a
memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord
throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an
ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the
prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew
5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one
jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till
all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the
general version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And
neither version do you have to memorize since God promised to
write them directly into your intellect if you make a deal
with Him. Personally, I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory
access) which is sorta like computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good
with the Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once
had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the
kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." -
Jesus Christ (Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist
who pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my
main points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't
like or comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants
irreguardless of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of
course I cannot believe most of the folks around here who call
themselves 'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are
full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support
ignorance? Who are you to tell me that you are a Christian when
your behavior appears to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.


You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a
Christian but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect
everyone to sit still for your lies just because you claim to be
Christian?


You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?


Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.


So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.


Jesus confirmed Moses as well as the account where the Sodomites were
destroyed from the fire that fell from heaven.

There is no record of Jesus actually insisting that any of these stories
were literal. Moreover, you would deny Him His kenosis, it seems.

Of course He is really just a name you drop to impress the girls, right?
Because if you actually thought He was about to accost you in the street
your underwear would turn brown and you'd be running much harder than you
should for your health!
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
.

User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 15 Apr 2007 08:33:17 PM
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:

Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.


So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.


Jesus confirmed Moses as well as the account where the Sodomites were
destroyed from the fire that fell from heaven.

Jesus confirmed that the lessons of the ancient Jewish parables still
were valid. That does not mean that they were historical.
lojbab
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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 15 Apr 2007 08:30:09 PM
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:30:31 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<91a523ldu8619spa1e7r6i3ape7h7ij9sp@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:51:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.


You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a Christian
but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect everyone to
sit still for your lies just because you claim to be Christian?


You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?


Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.


So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.


Jesus confirmed Moses as well as the account where the Sodomites were
destroyed from the fire that fell from heaven.

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away."
- Jesus (Luke 21:33)

So, what evidence do you have to show that Jesus actually said it or
that He is a reliable witness on the subject.
Hearsay is silly.
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User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 19 Apr 2007 05:28:20 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:30:31 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<91a523ldu8619spa1e7r6i3ape7h7ij9sp@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:51:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:40:37 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<64u0239ngjtv6nvmvjvm7e2koqdneo57fi@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 04:12:52 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<frp023lnkfauj2hf9t7b33bkqi4tujhmnc@4ax.com>:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
news:69ot135at3cpg6s1102kn8n1bvvk3o725u@4ax.com:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 8 Apr., 03:24, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee
a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

Lesson: God chooses who He uses.

"Passover" remains to this very day as a law of God.

Exodus 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the
houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you,
and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and
ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations; ye
shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And Jesus came to strengthen that law....

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am
not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

No one can deny it. The laws of God will never be nullified.


What "Laws of God"?


All of them. 613 in the specific version and only 2 in the general
version.

Both versions combined are less than the IRS tax code. And neither
version do you have to memorize since God promised to write them
directly into your intellect if you make a deal with Him. Personally,
I got SDMA (spontaneous direct memory access) which is sorta like
computer RAM, in my deal.


So, you violate the important ones and that will get you in good with the
Boss? I don't theenk so senor!

Religion as men once new it no longer has the grip it once had....

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom
of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." - Jesus Christ
(Luke 16:16)


Yes, but YOU do not represent that kingdom. You're a con artist who
pretends to, while actually representing the enemy.


Wrong. As a Christian I do represent that kingdom. And one of my main
points here against you hypocrites is that you just don't like or
comprehend the fact that God sends whomsoever He wants irreguardless
of your vain imaginations.


Really? Are you really a Christian? I cannot believe that. Of course I
cannot believe most of the folks around here who call themselves
'Christians'. They lie, they spread ignorance. They are full of hubris.

Who taught you that God wants you to lie? Who taught you to be a
hypocrite? Who taught you to attack knowledge and support ignorance? Who
are you to tell me that you are a Christian when your behavior appears
to betray what Jesus taught?


Let's not get personal.


You've made it that way. You are the one who claims to be a Christian
but then uses lies to attack others. Do you really expect everyone to
sit still for your lies just because you claim to be Christian?


You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?


Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.


So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.


Jesus confirmed Moses as well as the account where the Sodomites were
destroyed from the fire that fell from heaven.

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away."
- Jesus (Luke 21:33)


So, what evidence do you have to show that Jesus actually said it or
that He is a reliable witness on the subject.


Me. I am His witness.
Acts 1:8 "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost
is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem,
and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the
earth." - Jesus
And He gave me the power. Now I help further the Gospel 'till the end
comes.
"And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to
raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel:
I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be
my salvation unto the end of the earth." (Isaiah 49:6)
And the end of things as you now know them are coming. As soon as all
pagans who are going to be saved are saved... the door will be shut.
But don't think I feel compeled to prove anything to you guys. I'm
not trying too. I'm telling what needs to be told.
Jd
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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 19 Apr 2007 05:39:23 PM
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:28:20 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<1f1g239lua470ca29iqrlbeuokuq8gmvsd@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:30:31 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<91a523ldu8619spa1e7r6i3ape7h7ij9sp@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:51:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com>:

....

You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?


Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.


So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.


Jesus confirmed Moses as well as the account where the Sodomites were
destroyed from the fire that fell from heaven.

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away."
- Jesus (Luke 21:33)


So, what evidence do you have to show that Jesus actually said it or
that He is a reliable witness on the subject.


Me. I am His witness.

No, you are not. You are lying, again.

Acts 1:8 "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost
is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem,
and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the
earth." - Jesus

And He gave me the power. Now I help further the Gospel 'till the end
comes.

You mock Jesus with your doctrines.

"And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to
raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel:
I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be
my salvation unto the end of the earth." (Isaiah 49:6)

And the end of things as you now know them are coming. As soon as all
pagans who are going to be saved are saved... the door will be shut.

But don't think I feel compeled to prove anything to you guys. I'm
not trying too. I'm telling what needs to be told.

You know you have no evidence, but do not have the honesty to admit it.
We know you are lying. There's nothing more you need to say.
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User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 22 Apr 2007 05:44:21 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:28:20 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<1f1g239lua470ca29iqrlbeuokuq8gmvsd@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:30:31 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<91a523ldu8619spa1e7r6i3ape7h7ij9sp@4ax.com>:

Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:51:05 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<93t22355h4sep0u6unirt614frdo2gelf1@4ax.com>:


...

You do understand that Jews have been observing Passover for untold
centuries don't you?


Yes, but that isn't evidence that the stories of Moses are true. The
evidence does not support the stories.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, "See, I have made thee a
god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet".

....and so eventually they let them whom they'd enslaved go free.


So the story goes. The facts do not confirm the story.


Jesus confirmed Moses as well as the account where the Sodomites were
destroyed from the fire that fell from heaven.

"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away."
- Jesus (Luke 21:33)


So, what evidence do you have to show that Jesus actually said it or
that He is a reliable witness on the subject.


Me. I am His witness.


No, you are not. You are lying, again.

Acts 1:8 "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost
is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem,
and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the
earth." - Jesus

And He gave me the power. Now I help further the Gospel 'till the end
comes.


You mock Jesus with your doctrines.

"And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to
raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel:
I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be
my salvation unto the end of the earth." (Isaiah 49:6)

And the end of things as you now know them are coming. As soon as all
pagans who are going to be saved are saved... the door will be shut.

But don't think I feel compeled to prove anything to you guys. I'm
not trying too. I'm telling what needs to be told.


You know you have no evidence, but do not have the honesty to admit it.
We know you are lying. There's nothing more you need to say.

But I do have evidence. It's called faith.
Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the
evidence of things not seen."
However, it may very well be that you operate using more faith than I
if you think you evolved from a chemical slime pit.
There is no way that a butterfly and a hummingbird could have evolved
from random mutations starting with the assumption that life
spontaneously arose on it's own from mud, zapped by lightening.
You cannot say with any moral authority, that homosexuality isn't an
abomination either
Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind:
it is abomination."
Jd


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User: ""

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 24 Apr 2007 01:52:17 AM
On 23 Apr., 00:44, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Free Lunch wrote:

snip

But I do have evidence. It's called faith.

Faith is belief. Evidence is what supports belief. You have no
evidence.
snip
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User: "Jd"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 24 Apr 2007 04:27:18 PM
wrote:

On 23 Apr., 00:44, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Free Lunch wrote:

snip

But I do have evidence. It's called faith.


Faith is belief. Evidence is what supports belief. You have no
evidence.

snip

Faith is evidence.
Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the
evidence of things not seen."
Evolutionist look at a bone and have faith evidence that men came from
apes.... without any absolute proof atall.
Jd

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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Passover: a man became a god 24 Apr 2007 06:11:01 PM
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:27:18 GMT, in alt.atheism
Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote in
<rd4t23dmsq2u0c1jj0laah16on4jiqgpnd@4ax.com>:

gudloos@yahoo.com wrote:

On 23 Apr., 00:44, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:

Free Lunch wrote:

snip

But I do have evidence. It's called faith.


Faith is belief. Evidence is what supports belief. You have no
evidence.

snip


Faith is evidence.

Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the
evidence of things not seen."

Evolutionist look at a bone and have faith evidence that men came from
apes.... without any absolute proof atall.

The writer to the Hebrews plays games with the meaning of words and
turns himself into a liar. Yu are repeating a lie from the Bible.
Faith is never evidence. Ever.
--
"... There's glory for you."

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiles contemptuously. "Of course you don't--till
I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"

"But glory doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument," Alice objected.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice "whether you can make words mean so
many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's
all."
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