| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Michael Gray" |
| Date: |
25 May 2007 06:56:02 PM |
| Object: |
Pat Condell in "Hate Speech" row. |
Most of us have seen this video on YouToob, and applauded it.
Some narrow-minded U.S. wankers have objected.
Comic in US 'hate speech' row
by chortle.co.uk
Thanks to Ranjani for the link.
Reposted from:
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2007/05/17/5335/comic_in_us__'hate_speech'_row
"A British stand-up has been accused of spreading 'racist hate speech'
in California.
Pat Condell has faced a barrage of criticism after links to his
anti-Muslim monologue on YouTube were circulated to commissioners in
the city of Berkeley.
In the five-minute video, Condell condemns Islam as a religion of war
and its prophet Mohammad as 'some rambling ancient desert nomad with a
psychological disorder'.
He attacks fundamentalist men as 'primitive pigs whose only
achievement in life is to be born with a penis is one hand and a Koran
in the second' and accuses women who wear veils of their own will of
being 'mentally ill'.
'If God had intended for you to cover your face then in His wisdom He
would have provided you with a flap of skin for the purpose,' he said.
Jonathan Wornick, who is on the 'peace and justice commission'
adivisng Berkeley city council emailed his colleagues with the link,
saying it was 'an honest attempt to bring dialogue'.
But his actions have caused a political storm. Commissioner Michael
Sherman said Condell's views were 'stunning' because of his
'stereotyping and bigotry of the tone and the language'.
And commissioner Elliot Cohen called the tape 'insulting, degenerating
and racist'.
'People should not be allowed to spew racist propaganda without others
being able to respond,' Cohen said. 'It's not about free speech - it's
hate speech.'
Condell, an atheist, has released a number of monologues on the
internet, criticising all religions. The anti-Islamic video has been
seen almost 16,000 times on YouTube and more than 190,000 times on
another file sharing site, LiveLeak.
He said he didn't want to condemn the entire Muslim faith , because 'I
don't want to be murdered hysterical, murderous, carpet-chewing,
book-burning by muppet with ***** for brains', and hoped that the
medieval values preached by some Muslims would come to be looked at
with 'embarrassment and shame' in years to come.
Of the row in California, Condell said: 'I think this is clearly more
about their internal politics than it is about me. I'm glad they
included a link to the video so people can make up their own minds.
'Inevitably some people are less than impressed and I've had death
threats from such exotic locations as Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Tower
Hamlets, but generally the response has been very supportive.
'Lots of people tell me I'm saying exactly what they think but are
afraid to say publicly. I'm also getting loads of e-mails from
Americans applauding my views on the religious right. Some who live in
the Bible belt tell me they're afraid to go public as atheists in case
they're victimised.
'One woman said she's afraid it would affect the family business if
anyone knew she didn't believe in God. Welcome to the 21st century.'"
.
|
|
| User: "johac" |
|
| Title: Re: Pat Condell in "Hate Speech" row. |
26 May 2007 01:34:57 AM |
|
|
In article <qote531um0p4lhdvqot58gc1rsf916if2p@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Most of us have seen this video on YouToob, and applauded it.
Some narrow-minded U.S. wankers have objected.
Comic in US 'hate speech' row
by chortle.co.uk
Thanks to Ranjani for the link.
Reposted from:
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2007/05/17/5335/comic_in_us__'hate_speech'_row
"A British stand-up has been accused of spreading 'racist hate speech'
in California.
Pat Condell has faced a barrage of criticism after links to his
anti-Muslim monologue on YouTube were circulated to commissioners in
the city of Berkeley.
In the five-minute video, Condell condemns Islam as a religion of war
and its prophet Mohammad as 'some rambling ancient desert nomad with a
psychological disorder'.
He attacks fundamentalist men as 'primitive pigs whose only
achievement in life is to be born with a penis is one hand and a Koran
in the second' and accuses women who wear veils of their own will of
being 'mentally ill'.
'If God had intended for you to cover your face then in His wisdom He
would have provided you with a flap of skin for the purpose,' he said.
Jonathan Wornick, who is on the 'peace and justice commission'
adivisng Berkeley city council emailed his colleagues with the link,
saying it was 'an honest attempt to bring dialogue'.
But his actions have caused a political storm. Commissioner Michael
Sherman said Condell's views were 'stunning' because of his
'stereotyping and bigotry of the tone and the language'.
And commissioner Elliot Cohen called the tape 'insulting, degenerating
and racist'.
Racist? Condell's talking about religion.
'People should not be allowed to spew racist propaganda without others
being able to respond,' Cohen said. 'It's not about free speech - it's
hate speech.'
Condell, an atheist, has released a number of monologues on the
internet, criticising all religions. The anti-Islamic video has been
seen almost 16,000 times on YouTube and more than 190,000 times on
another file sharing site, LiveLeak.
He said he didn't want to condemn the entire Muslim faith , because 'I
don't want to be murdered hysterical, murderous, carpet-chewing,
book-burning by muppet with ***** for brains', and hoped that the
medieval values preached by some Muslims would come to be looked at
with 'embarrassment and shame' in years to come.
Of the row in California, Condell said: 'I think this is clearly more
about their internal politics than it is about me. I'm glad they
included a link to the video so people can make up their own minds.
I wonder where all of these 'politically correct' people go when cretins
like the late unlamented Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson, or James
Dobson and their ilk denounce atheism? Or the Phelps tribe starts in on
gays?
'Inevitably some people are less than impressed and I've had death
threats from such exotic locations as Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Tower
Hamlets, but generally the response has been very supportive.
'Lots of people tell me I'm saying exactly what they think but are
afraid to say publicly. I'm also getting loads of e-mails from
Americans applauding my views on the religious right. Some who live in
the Bible belt tell me they're afraid to go public as atheists in case
they're victimised.
'One woman said she's afraid it would affect the family business if
anyone knew she didn't believe in God. Welcome to the 21st century.'"
Condell hits it right on the head.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: Pat Condell in "Hate Speech" row. |
26 May 2007 02:07:14 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 25 May 2007 23:34:57 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-0907A4.23345725052007@news.giganews.com>
In article <qote531um0p4lhdvqot58gc1rsf916if2p@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Most of us have seen this video on YouToob, and applauded it.
Some narrow-minded U.S. wankers have objected.
Comic in US 'hate speech' row
by chortle.co.uk
Thanks to Ranjani for the link.
Reposted from:
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2007/05/17/5335/comic_in_us__'hate_speech'_row
"A British stand-up has been accused of spreading 'racist hate speech'
in California.
Pat Condell has faced a barrage of criticism after links to his
anti-Muslim monologue on YouTube were circulated to commissioners in
the city of Berkeley.
In the five-minute video, Condell condemns Islam as a religion of war
and its prophet Mohammad as 'some rambling ancient desert nomad with a
psychological disorder'.
He attacks fundamentalist men as 'primitive pigs whose only
achievement in life is to be born with a penis is one hand and a Koran
in the second' and accuses women who wear veils of their own will of
being 'mentally ill'.
'If God had intended for you to cover your face then in His wisdom He
would have provided you with a flap of skin for the purpose,' he said.
Jonathan Wornick, who is on the 'peace and justice commission'
adivisng Berkeley city council emailed his colleagues with the link,
saying it was 'an honest attempt to bring dialogue'.
But his actions have caused a political storm. Commissioner Michael
Sherman said Condell's views were 'stunning' because of his
'stereotyping and bigotry of the tone and the language'.
And commissioner Elliot Cohen called the tape 'insulting, degenerating
and racist'.
Racist? Condell's talking about religion.
'People should not be allowed to spew racist propaganda without others
being able to respond,' Cohen said. 'It's not about free speech - it's
hate speech.'
Condell, an atheist, has released a number of monologues on the
internet, criticising all religions. The anti-Islamic video has been
seen almost 16,000 times on YouTube and more than 190,000 times on
another file sharing site, LiveLeak.
He said he didn't want to condemn the entire Muslim faith , because 'I
don't want to be murdered hysterical, murderous, carpet-chewing,
book-burning by muppet with ***** for brains', and hoped that the
medieval values preached by some Muslims would come to be looked at
with 'embarrassment and shame' in years to come.
Of the row in California, Condell said: 'I think this is clearly more
about their internal politics than it is about me. I'm glad they
included a link to the video so people can make up their own minds.
I wonder where all of these 'politically correct' people go when cretins
like the late unlamented Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson, or James
Dobson and their ilk denounce atheism? Or the Phelps tribe starts in on
gays?
'Inevitably some people are less than impressed and I've had death
threats from such exotic locations as Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Tower
Hamlets, but generally the response has been very supportive.
'Lots of people tell me I'm saying exactly what they think but are
afraid to say publicly. I'm also getting loads of e-mails from
Americans applauding my views on the religious right. Some who live in
the Bible belt tell me they're afraid to go public as atheists in case
they're victimised.
'One woman said she's afraid it would affect the family business if
anyone knew she didn't believe in God. Welcome to the 21st century.'"
Condell hits it right on the head.
I urge all US atheists to write to him in support.
Let him know that these fuckwits are in the minority, (or will be one
day!)
--
.
|
|
|
| User: "johac" |
|
| Title: Re: Pat Condell in "Hate Speech" row. |
26 May 2007 06:35:05 PM |
|
|
In article <e3nf53de11jcda4fh07kg9q3v05mi3jn0m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 23:34:57 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-0907A4.23345725052007@news.giganews.com>
In article <qote531um0p4lhdvqot58gc1rsf916if2p@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Most of us have seen this video on YouToob, and applauded it.
Some narrow-minded U.S. wankers have objected.
Comic in US 'hate speech' row
by chortle.co.uk
Thanks to Ranjani for the link.
Reposted from:
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2007/05/17/5335/comic_in_us__'hate_speech'_ro
w
"A British stand-up has been accused of spreading 'racist hate speech'
in California.
Pat Condell has faced a barrage of criticism after links to his
anti-Muslim monologue on YouTube were circulated to commissioners in
the city of Berkeley.
In the five-minute video, Condell condemns Islam as a religion of war
and its prophet Mohammad as 'some rambling ancient desert nomad with a
psychological disorder'.
He attacks fundamentalist men as 'primitive pigs whose only
achievement in life is to be born with a penis is one hand and a Koran
in the second' and accuses women who wear veils of their own will of
being 'mentally ill'.
'If God had intended for you to cover your face then in His wisdom He
would have provided you with a flap of skin for the purpose,' he said.
Jonathan Wornick, who is on the 'peace and justice commission'
adivisng Berkeley city council emailed his colleagues with the link,
saying it was 'an honest attempt to bring dialogue'.
But his actions have caused a political storm. Commissioner Michael
Sherman said Condell's views were 'stunning' because of his
'stereotyping and bigotry of the tone and the language'.
And commissioner Elliot Cohen called the tape 'insulting, degenerating
and racist'.
Racist? Condell's talking about religion.
'People should not be allowed to spew racist propaganda without others
being able to respond,' Cohen said. 'It's not about free speech - it's
hate speech.'
Condell, an atheist, has released a number of monologues on the
internet, criticising all religions. The anti-Islamic video has been
seen almost 16,000 times on YouTube and more than 190,000 times on
another file sharing site, LiveLeak.
He said he didn't want to condemn the entire Muslim faith , because 'I
don't want to be murdered hysterical, murderous, carpet-chewing,
book-burning by muppet with ***** for brains', and hoped that the
medieval values preached by some Muslims would come to be looked at
with 'embarrassment and shame' in years to come.
Of the row in California, Condell said: 'I think this is clearly more
about their internal politics than it is about me. I'm glad they
included a link to the video so people can make up their own minds.
I wonder where all of these 'politically correct' people go when cretins
like the late unlamented Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson, or James
Dobson and their ilk denounce atheism? Or the Phelps tribe starts in on
gays?
'Inevitably some people are less than impressed and I've had death
threats from such exotic locations as Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Tower
Hamlets, but generally the response has been very supportive.
'Lots of people tell me I'm saying exactly what they think but are
afraid to say publicly. I'm also getting loads of e-mails from
Americans applauding my views on the religious right. Some who live in
the Bible belt tell me they're afraid to go public as atheists in case
they're victimised.
'One woman said she's afraid it would affect the family business if
anyone knew she didn't believe in God. Welcome to the 21st century.'"
Condell hits it right on the head.
I urge all US atheists to write to him in support.
Let him know that these fuckwits are in the minority, (or will be one
day!)
--
Excellent suggestion. I'll do it right away. If anyone else needs it,
here's his web site:
http://www.patcondell.net/
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Pat Condell in "Hate Speech" row. |
04 Jun 2007 09:15:36 PM |
|
|
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:26:02 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Most of us have seen this video on YouToob, and applauded it.
Some narrow-minded U.S. wankers have objected.
*****'em.
Comic in US 'hate speech' row
by chortle.co.uk
Thanks to Ranjani for the link.
[]
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
.
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: Pat Condell in "Hate Speech" row. |
05 Jun 2007 06:41:35 AM |
|
|
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:15:36 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <aph9639r8chpp70fjc4or497hsm9uo1597@4ax.com>
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:26:02 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Most of us have seen this video on YouToob, and applauded it.
Some narrow-minded U.S. wankers have objected.
*****'em.
No, thank you.
--
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Pat Condell in "Hate Speech" row. |
09 Jun 2007 07:39:09 PM |
|
|
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:11:35 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:15:36 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <aph9639r8chpp70fjc4or497hsm9uo1597@4ax.com>
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:26:02 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Most of us have seen this video on YouToob, and applauded it.
Some narrow-minded U.S. wankers have objected.
*****'em.
No, thank you.
Understandable.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
