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"Famousdog" |
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22 Jun 2004 04:54:29 AM |
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Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take "purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy touching
their poor Tiffany:
"I know! Rather than educate our kids about safe sex lets convince
them to "save themselves" until after they've married some dork and
then let them find out on their wedding night that neither of them
knows how to do it."
"Gee thats a great idea Bob! And we'll just ignore the statistics that
suggest that teenage pregnancy and STDs actually go up in groups of
teenagers who take purity pledges because they haven't been educated
properly!"
"Good idea! The kids will be easy to convince thanks to goody-goody
celebrities like Britney hopping on the bandwagon and spouting
nonsense about how they're saving themselves. And there's no need to
worry about the horrendous damage done to the self-esteeem of
teenagers who fall off the wagon and have sex - because they deserve
everything they get, the dirty *****!"
"Nice one Bob"
"Thanks Stan"
There's nothing wrong with having deeply-felt religious beliefs
regarding sexual relations, but like so many superpower civilisations,
the US is a macho, patriarchal, domineering society (just look at
Iraq) and "purity pledges" are just another aspect of that.
Cheers, famousdog.
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| User: "Mark Tindall" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 05:55:32 PM |
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"Banish all objects of lust, shut up all youth into the severest
discipline that can be exercised in any hermitage, ye cannot make them
chaste that came not thither so ..."
From John Milton's "Areopagitica" (1644) [Appleton- Century Crofts; New
York:1951] p. 25
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| User: "Goodness Godless" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 09:37:38 AM |
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"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take "purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
Mind, UK can't talk. Worst teenage pregnancy rates in
Europe!
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Cheers, famousdog.
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| User: "Scout Lady" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 10:18:43 AM |
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"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
news:1087915852.306178@athnrd02.forthnet.gr...
"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take "purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Mind, UK can't talk. Worst teenage pregnancy rates in
Europe!
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Cheers, famousdog.
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| User: "Goodness Godless" |
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22 Jun 2004 10:57:05 AM |
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"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
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"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take "purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that
she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Dear, dear dear.
Gift? Are you Christians admitting to selling yourselves?
And what about your second or third marriage.
No matter how violent and stupid the first one.
It was the best, because you swapped being a
slave of Jebus for being a slave of a (no doubt I
love Jebus) violent moron.
institution.........
now dream on. The Catholics call it a sacrament. The
USA people just throw money at it.
In the end it remains just a very unreliable institution.
As a Woman or someone pretending to be a women.
How dare you promote such enslaving rubish to little girls.
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Mind, UK can't talk. Worst teenage pregnancy rates in
Europe!
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Cheers, famousdog.
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| User: "Scout Lady" |
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22 Jun 2004 11:32:07 AM |
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"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
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"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take
"purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that
she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Dear, dear dear.
Gift? Are you Christians admitting to selling yourselves?
And what about your second or third marriage.
No matter how violent and stupid the first one.
It was the best, because you swapped being a
slave of Jebus for being a slave of a (no doubt I
love Jebus) violent moron.
institution.........
now dream on. The Catholics call it a sacrament. The
USA people just throw money at it.
In the end it remains just a very unreliable institution.
As a Woman or someone pretending to be a women.
How dare you promote such enslaving rubish to little girls.
Oh brother..........
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Mind, UK can't talk. Worst teenage pregnancy rates in
Europe!
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Cheers, famousdog.
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| User: "Goodness Godless" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 01:39:47 PM |
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"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage
is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take
"purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project
is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy
touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man
that
she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Dear, dear dear.
Gift? Are you Christians admitting to selling yourselves?
And what about your second or third marriage.
No matter how violent and stupid the first one.
It was the best, because you swapped being a
slave of Jebus for being a slave of a (no doubt I
love Jebus) violent moron.
institution.........
now dream on. The Catholics call it a sacrament. The
USA people just throw money at it.
In the end it remains just a very unreliable institution.
As a Woman or someone pretending to be a women.
How dare you promote such enslaving rubish to little girls.
Oh brother..........
Oh sister.................
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Mind, UK can't talk. Worst teenage pregnancy rates in
Europe!
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Cheers, famousdog.
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| User: "Bob" |
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23 Jun 2004 07:01:05 PM |
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"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage
is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take
"purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project
is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy
touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man
that
she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Dear, dear dear.
Gift? Are you Christians admitting to selling yourselves?
And what about your second or third marriage.
No matter how violent and stupid the first one.
It was the best, because you swapped being a
slave of Jebus for being a slave of a (no doubt I
love Jebus) violent moron.
institution.........
now dream on. The Catholics call it a sacrament. The
USA people just throw money at it.
In the end it remains just a very unreliable institution.
As a Woman or someone pretending to be a women.
How dare you promote such enslaving rubish to little girls.
Oh brother..........
When I was looking for my wife, not knowing how many years it would take
to find her, I used to pick pretty flowers and hang them on my rear-view
mirror to dry out, and eventually added them to a five gallon glass jug with
an airtight lid. I did not know the name of the person I was saving them
for, but I knew that she would appreciate the time, thought and loving care
that went into the preparation of this loving gift.
I was right; she was stunned.
Bob<><
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| User: "Tak" |
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22 Jun 2004 02:30:32 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:32:07 GMT, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net>
wrote:
Oh brother..........
So, do virgins taste better?
Do Virgins Taste Better
words by Randy Farran, music traditional
A dragon has come to our village today.
We've asked him to leave, but he won't go away.
Now he's talked to our king and they worked out a deal.
No homes will he burn and no crops will he steal.
Now there is but one catch, we dislike it a bunch.
Twice a year he invites him a virgin to lunch.
Well, we've no other choice, so the deal we'll respect.
But we can't help but wonder and pause to reflect.
Do virgins taste better than those who are not?
Are they salty, or sweeter, more juicy or what?
Do you savor them slowly? Gulp them down on the spot?
Do virgins taste better than those who are not?
Now we'd like to be shed you, and many have tried.
But no one can get through your thick scaly hide.
We hope that some day, some brave knight will come by.
'Cause we can't wait around 'til you're too fat to fly.
Now you have such good taste in your women for sure,
They always are pretty, they always are pure.
But your notion of dining, it makes us all flinch,
For your favorite entree is barbecued wench.
Now we've found a solution, it works out so neat,
If you insist on nothing but virgins to eat.
No more will our number ever grow small,
We'll simply make sure there's no virgins at all!
Tak
a#344
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| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 06:26:08 PM |
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"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<n5YBc.21341$z24.11304@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
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"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take "purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Why can't a man give a woman the gift of *his* virginity? Oh, because
of the old double standard. Forgive me, I had a blonde moment, there.
"Giving a man the gift of her virginity" ensures that a woman is
reducing herself to a commodity called "virgin." My virtue is *not* a
commodity. The "gift" I give a man is my authentic love, not a lack
of experience.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefecture of Baja, Arizona
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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22 Jun 2004 07:21:19 PM |
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On 22 Jun 2004 16:26:08 -0700,
(Brenda Nelson) posted thusly:
Why can't a man give a woman the gift of *his* virginity? Oh, because
of the old double standard. Forgive me, I had a blonde moment, there.
"Giving a man the gift of her virginity" ensures that a woman is
reducing herself to a commodity called "virgin." My virtue is *not* a
commodity. The "gift" I give a man is my authentic love, not a lack
of experience.
I take a gift and turn it into a bad thing.
--
± Pastor Dave ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither
have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips
was right before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is
the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
/}
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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22 Jun 2004 06:42:44 PM |
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On 22 Jun 2004 16:26:08 -0700,
(Brenda Nelson) posted thusly:
Why can't a man give a woman the gift of *his* virginity? Oh, because
of the old double standard. Forgive me, I had a blonde moment, there.
"Giving a man the gift of her virginity" ensures that a woman is
reducing herself to a commodity called "virgin." My virtue is *not* a
commodity. The "gift" I give a man is my authentic love, not a lack
of experience.
You take a gift of love and turn it into a bad thing.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Cheerful Pickle" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 06:45:46 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:26:08 -0700, Brenda Nelson wrote:
Why can't a man give a woman the gift of *his* virginity? Oh, because
of the old double standard. Forgive me, I had a blonde moment, there.
The ones I have seen taking a "Purity Pledge" have been both young men
and young women. Both genders promising purity to whoever they might
marry in the future. There is an old saying, "What is good for the goose
is good for the gander." If it is good for a woman to remain a virgin,
and it is, then it is also good for the man. So much for the olde double
standard.
Am I having a blonde moment? I don't think so. My hair is
grey, not blonde -- and never has been.
Just because the Victorians totally botched up the idea of the value of
virginity does not make it an absurd idea, just an idea that has been
botched up in the past and needs restoration, that is all.
--
Andy Rugg -- The Cheerful Pickle
To email me, please remove "POSTHEAP" from my return address. Thanks.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 07:21:35 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:45:46 -0700, Cheerful Pickle
<cheerfulpickle@net-venture.compostheap> posted thusly:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:26:08 -0700, Brenda Nelson wrote:
Why can't a man give a woman the gift of *his* virginity? Oh, because
of the old double standard. Forgive me, I had a blonde moment, there.
The ones I have seen taking a "Purity Pledge" have been both young men
and young women. Both genders promising purity to whoever they might
marry in the future. There is an old saying, "What is good for the goose
is good for the gander." If it is good for a woman to remain a virgin,
and it is, then it is also good for the man. So much for the olde double
standard.
Almonds!
--
± Pastor Dave ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither
have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips
was right before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is
the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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22 Jun 2004 06:52:56 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:45:46 -0700, Cheerful Pickle
<cheerfulpickle@net-venture.compostheap> posted thusly:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:26:08 -0700, Brenda Nelson wrote:
Why can't a man give a woman the gift of *his* virginity? Oh, because
of the old double standard. Forgive me, I had a blonde moment, there.
The ones I have seen taking a "Purity Pledge" have been both young men
and young women. Both genders promising purity to whoever they might
marry in the future. There is an old saying, "What is good for the goose
is good for the gander." If it is good for a woman to remain a virgin,
and it is, then it is also good for the man. So much for the olde double
standard.
Amen!
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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22 Jun 2004 02:07:16 PM |
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On Tue 22 Jun 2004 10:18:43a, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
news:1087915852.306178@athnrd02.forthnet.gr...
"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage
is the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take
"purity pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative
project is the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic
parents with right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some
boy touching their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man
that she loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself
for any institution..........
And naturally, nobody ever falls in love more than once in their lives,
so it's quite simple to just save your virginity for the person you
love, right?
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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22 Jun 2004 07:21:57 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:18:43 GMT, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net>
in news message <n5YBc.21341$z24.11304@nwrdny01.gnilink.net> wrote:
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I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
And when that's gone, what then will you give him?
Liz #658 BAAWA
We may have lost our moral compass but we still have our chaste
sextant, our modest flashlight, our ethical pen knife, and our
virtuous canteen. -- jwkinraleigh
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| User: "W. Syme" |
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22 Jun 2004 10:49:19 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:18:43 GMT, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net>
wrote:
"Goodness Godless" <goodness@godless.net> wrote in message
news:1087915852.306178@athnrd02.forthnet.gr...
"Famousdog" <famousdog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:490a01b4.0406220154.7ee91abd@posting.google.com...
One of the many things that makes me daily incandescent with rage is
the trend being cynically promoted among our teenagers to take "purity
pledges". From what i observe, this obscene, manipulative project is
the obsession of a bunch of bible-weilding, neurotic parents with
right-wing tendencies who can't stand the idea of some boy touching
their poor Tiffany:
We had a TV report over here about USAFundies trying to sell
this to the English kids.
The 12 year old USA Churchy girl was coming out with how
much her willy and Jesus were in love (sounded like she
could almost have written it herself).
The 14 year old UK Clubber girl said right of the top of
her head as she was stopped in the street, something to the
effect, "Save myself for an institution who's
validity is so questionable?"
So retorical and so concise and no mention of MumboJumbo.
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Mind, UK can't talk. Worst teenage pregnancy rates in
Europe!
--
Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it.
Niels Bohr
Goodness Godless
Cheers, famousdog.
It might be romantic, but I prefer a girl who knows what she's doing
so I won't be terribly disappointed on the wedding night.
--
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
W. Syme (pseudonym), European, non-native English speaker, "soft" atheist.
Email will not be read.
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| User: "Bob" |
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23 Jun 2004 07:28:55 PM |
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"W. Syme" <Winston.Syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote
It might be romantic, but I prefer a girl who knows what she's doing
so I won't be terribly disappointed on the wedding night.
SO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT TO DO?
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| User: "Tak" |
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22 Jun 2004 01:57:43 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:18:43 GMT, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@nospam.net>
wrote:
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
"Virginity is a correctable perversity of no great interest"
*Robert Heinlein*
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| User: "Elbert Wall" |
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22 Jun 2004 11:52:31 AM |
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Scout Lady wrote:
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I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
I'm a man and I'd rather she gave me a Ruger Model 1 Tropical, chambered
for the belted .375 Holland and Holland.
With a Nikon mil-dot scope.
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| User: "Bob" |
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23 Jun 2004 02:01:12 PM |
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"Elbert Wall" <ewall@ipa.netnopam> wrote in message
news:jtZBc.14123$Wr.8600@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Scout Lady wrote:
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I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that
she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
I'm a man and I'd rather she gave me a Ruger Model 1 Tropical, chambered
for the belted .375 Holland and Holland.
With a Nikon mil-dot scope.
You have obviously never received on your wedding night the unspeakable
gift of your beloved's virginity. It surpasses the considerations of worldly
desires and material things.
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| User: "Elbert Wall" |
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23 Jun 2004 04:41:35 PM |
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Bob wrote:
You have obviously never received on your wedding night the unspeakable
gift of your beloved's virginity. It surpasses the considerations of worldly
desires and material things.
No one can decently make a cogent reply to this charge. The details of
my love life are no business of anyone on any of these newsgroups.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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23 Jun 2004 02:38:18 PM |
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In article <YrkCc.11051$bs4.2982@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Bob
says...snip
You have obviously never received on your wedding night the unspeakable
gift of your beloved's virginity. It surpasses the considerations of worldly
desires and material things.
Oh brother <rolls eyes>
And yes, my husband was definitely no virgin when I married him ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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23 Jun 2004 02:52:45 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <YrkCc.11051$bs4.2982@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Bob
says...snip
You have obviously never received on your wedding night the unspeakable
gift of your beloved's virginity. It surpasses the considerations of worldly
desires and material things.
Oh brother <rolls eyes>
And yes, my husband was definitely no virgin when I married him ;)
Male virginity is irrelevant in patriarchies.
--
Gregory Gadow for Washington State House
Independent, District 43
http://www.gregory-gadow.info
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| User: "Steve Hayes" |
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23 Jun 2004 11:32:05 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:01:12 GMT, "Bob" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:
I'm a man and I'd rather she gave me a Ruger Model 1 Tropical, chambered
for the belted .375 Holland and Holland.
With a Nikon mil-dot scope.
You have obviously never received on your wedding night the unspeakable
gift of your beloved's virginity. It surpasses the considerations of worldly
desires and material things.
Well it sure beat Aids or the Clap.
But I'm still amused that being deprived of Aids and other STDs could inflame
someone to incandescent rage.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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22 Jun 2004 12:50:36 PM |
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Elbert Wall wrote:
Scout Lady wrote:
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I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man
that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
I'm a man and I'd rather she gave me a Ruger Model 1 Tropical, chambered
for the belted .375 Holland and Holland.
With a Nikon mil-dot scope
I have interest in neither a woman's virginity nor a fancy gun package.
A Honda S2000 will do nicely... or a house in the Hollywood Hills.
GlennGlenn
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Patriarchy and "Purity pledges" |
22 Jun 2004 07:26:20 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:50:36 GMT, GlennGlenn
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> in news message
<Mj_Bc.3532$de2.348@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com> wrote:
Elbert Wall wrote:
Scout Lady wrote:
...
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man
that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
I'm a man and I'd rather she gave me a Ruger Model 1 Tropical, chambered
for the belted .375 Holland and Holland.
With a Nikon mil-dot scope
I have interest in neither a woman's virginity nor a fancy gun package.
A Honda S2000 will do nicely... or a house in the Hollywood Hills.
In the good old days, all it took was a dinner and a movie to get a
man in the mood.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Glenn" |
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23 Jun 2004 04:22:18 AM |
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Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message news:<7njhd0d1p1kjvie15fucir4pp7pds61s48@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:50:36 GMT, GlennGlenn
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> in news message
<Mj_Bc.3532$de2.348@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com> wrote:
Elbert Wall wrote:
Scout Lady wrote:
...
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man
that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
I'm a man and I'd rather she gave me a Ruger Model 1 Tropical, chambered
for the belted .375 Holland and Holland.
With a Nikon mil-dot scope
I have interest in neither a woman's virginity nor a fancy gun package.
A Honda S2000 will do nicely... or a house in the Hollywood Hills.
In the good old days, all it took was a dinner and a movie to get a
man in the mood.
Hey, who's talking about mood? I just want the car and the house. I
have no problem (ahem) rising to the occasion.
GlennGlenn
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| User: "Colin Day" |
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22 Jun 2004 10:37:23 AM |
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Scout Lady wrote:
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Why is virginity so valuable?
Colin Day aa #1500
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| User: "Bob" |
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23 Jun 2004 12:41:17 PM |
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"Colin Day" <cday3@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:40D85611.1070205@sc.rr.com...
Scout Lady wrote:
I think one of the most beautiful gifts a woman can give to the man that
she
loves is her virginity. It has nothing to do saving herself for any
institution..........
Why is virginity so valuable?
Colin Day aa #1500
If you had ever been with a woman who was NOT a virgin, and then become
a Christian and later married a good Christian woman who =was= a virgin, you
would not be asking this question. It is not something that can be
explained, it can only be experienced.
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