Paul's 'Romans' is a fraud



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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Newtons Cat"
Date: 29 Aug 2004 11:24:20 AM
Object: Paul's 'Romans' is a fraud
Romans, as we have it today, is the product of a deliberate, calculated fraud
perpetuated by someone hostile to the message of the original.
Paul (text added: A SERVANT OF CHRIST JESUS) called to be an apostle, having
been separated to the gospel of God, which he promised beforehand through the
prophets of him in writings holy (text added: CONCERNING THE SON OF HIM, THE
ONE COME OF THE SEED OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, THE
DESIGNATED SON OF GOD WITH POWER ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT OF
HOLINESS BY A RESURRECTION OF DEAD PERSONS, JESUS CHRIST THE
LORD OF US, THROUGH WHOM WE RECIEVED GRACE AND APOSTLESHIP
FOR OBEDIENCE OF FAITH AMONG ALL THE NATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE
NAME OF HIM, AMONG WHOM ARE YOU ALSO THE CALLED OF JESUS CHRIST)
to all those being in Rome, beloved of God, called to be holy: Grace to you and peace
from God our Father (text added: AND LORD JESUS CHRIST).
Firstly I thank my God (text added: THROUGH JESUS CHRIST) concenring you all,
because your faith is being announced in all the world. For God is my witness, whom I
serve in my spirit (text added: IN THE GOSPEL OF THE SON OF HIM) .....
And so on - all the way through Romans!
There is a body of opinion amongst some scholars that the history of the rise of
Christianity as described in Acts, etc., is COMPLETE FICTION.
There is absolutely no evidence to support the description of the spread of Christianity
in the 1st century ad. Christianity seems to have appeared "out of the blue" early in the
2nd century - in much the same way as Mormonism, Sun Moon's 'One World'
movement, Scientology, etc., have done in recent times.
There is a late 2nd century Roman play that describes a religion that, when its founder
was alive was perfectly acceptable and altruistic - but when its founder died it was
taken over by a single individual, who altered its sacred texts, wrote others of his own,
and made himself very wealthy. (The founding of the Catholic Church?)
Several commentators around 200 ad declared that they had no real knowledge of the
origins of Christianity - and that the texts available were hopelessly corrupt.
As for the story of Jesus found in Mark - this story has also been calculatedly and
deliberately altered. All descriptions of Jesus as 'Son of God' and so on, were later
interpolations. In the original story there were no "twelve disciples", no St Peter (Simwn
Petros - the Greek name of St peter - anagrams to Mortws penis, which is Latin for
"dead penis"). The original story of Jesus was most probably a work of fiction used as
an attack on contemporary Jewish religon and culture. It probably had a limited
circulation amongst interested intellectuals. A kind of - "What would happen if the
rightful King of the Jews [a Maccabee] appeared and tried to reform society?"
Christianity was a cult founded in much the same way as most modern cults - by
someone who used religion to seek power and wealth.
The question is: WHO WAS THIS MAN? Who was the devious, cunning, individual
who founded Catholicism? Who was the "first Pope"?
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User: "BMR"

Title: Re: Paul's 'Romans' is a fraud 30 Aug 2004 08:46:15 AM
"Newton's Cat" <flyingpussy@antigravity.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:4132032e$0$13304$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
There's no proof for genuinity in writings (Popper docet) which are
validated only by internal "evidences", in a closed circle; all writings of
christianity are a fraud perpetrated during many centuries. So the issue
doesn't make sense.
--
B. Catalano
www.alexamenos.com
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User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: Paul's 'Romans' is a fraud 29 Aug 2004 12:31:29 PM
"Newton's Cat" <flyingpussy@antigravity.com> wrote in message
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Romans, as we have it today, is the product of a deliberate, calculated

fraud

perpetuated by someone hostile to the message of the original.

If this could be proved it would be totally hilarious.
.

User: "Dale"

Title: Re: Paul's 'Romans' is a fraud 29 Aug 2004 01:06:11 PM
"Newton's Cat" <flyingpussy@antigravity.com> wrote in message
news:4132032e$0$13304$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...

Romans, as we have it today, is the product of a deliberate, calculated

fraud

perpetuated by someone hostile to the message of the original.

[...]

Christianity was a cult founded in much the same way as most modern

cults - by

someone who used religion to seek power and wealth.

The question is: WHO WAS THIS MAN? Who was the devious, cunning,

individual

who founded Catholicism? Who was the "first Pope"?

Sounds like a former-day L. Ron Hubbard.
.

User: "Jez"

Title: Re: Paul's 'Romans' is a fraud 29 Aug 2004 12:24:31 PM
Newton's Cat wrote:

Romans, as we have it today, is the product of a deliberate, calculated fraud
perpetuated by someone hostile to the message of the original.

So what ? The whole book is a fraud.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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