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User: "Carol Lee Smith"
Date: 27 Jan 2005 03:49:35 PM
Object: PBS craters to RRR
PBS has pulled a children's show because it depicts a family headed by
two lesbian women who are join in civil union in Vermont. The story is
below.
If you are a viewer or subscriber of/to a PBS station, let them know
of your displeasure here:
http://www.pbs.org/aboutsite/aboutsite_emailform.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/arts/television/27bust.html?oref=login
Culture Wars Pull Buster Into the Fray
By JULIE SALAMON
Published: January 27, 2005
Wayne Godwin, chief operating officer of PBS, got a bit tangled as he
tried to explain the PBS stance on gay characters appearing on
children's television shows.
"In fairness I would have to say a gay character is not one we would
not include," he said, and then clarified. "The fact that a character
may or may not be gay is not a reason why they should or should not be
part of this series."
Yet on Tuesday PBS decided not to distribute to its roughly 350 PBS
stations an episode of "Postcards From Buster," which was scheduled
for Feb. 2 and included lesbian mothers, even though a few days
earlier PBS officials, among them PBS's president, Pat Mitchell,
viewed the episode and called it appropriate. That was before
Education Secretary Margaret Spellings denounced the program, starring
Buster Baxter, a cute animated rabbit who until now has been known
primarily as a close friend of Arthur, the world's most famous
aardvark. Ms. Spellings said many parents would not want children
exposed to a lesbian life style.
Buster joined another cartoon character, SpongeBob SquarePants, as a
focus of the nation's culture wars. SpongeBob was recently attacked by
Christian groups for being pro-homosexual, though SpongeBob's creator
said it was all a misinterpretation. Buster's offense was appearing in
"Sugartime!," the undistributed "Postcards From Buster" show, in which
he visits children living in Vermont whose parents are a lesbian
couple. Civil unions are allowed in Vermont.
"Postcards From Buster" is a spinoff of "Arthur" that combines live
action and animation and went on the air a year ago. In the series,
aimed at young elementary schoolchildren, Buster travels to 24
different states with his father and sends video postcards home.
Buster appears briefly onscreen, but mainly narrates these live-action
segments, which show real children and how they live. One episode
featured a family with five children, living in a trailer in Virginia,
all sharing one room. In another, Buster visits a Mormon family in
Utah. He has dropped in on fundamentalist Christians and Muslims as
well as American Indians and Hmong. He has shown the lives of children
who have only one parent, and those who live with grandparents.
Marc Brown, creator of "Arthur" and "Postcards From Buster," said in a
statement: "I am disappointed by PBS's decision not to distribute the
'Postcards From Buster' 'Sugartime!' episode to public television
stations. What we are trying to do in the series is connect kids with
other kids by reflecting their lives. In some episodes, as in the
Vermont one, we are validating children who are seldom validated. We
believe that 'Postcards From Buster' does this in a very natural way -
and, as always, from the point of view of children."
Jeanne Hopkins, a spokeswoman for the show's producer, WGBH-TV of
Boston, added, "We feel it's important that we not exclude kids
because of what their family structure looks like." WGBH plans to
broadcast the episode in March and offer it to other PBS stations.
Like the grown-ups in most of the episodes, the lesbian mothers in the
"Sugartime!" segment are mainly background. "The concern really was
that there's a point where background becomes foreground," Mr. Godwin
said. "No matter if the parents were intended to be background, with
this specific item in this particular program they might simply be
foreground because of press attention to it and parental attention to it."
The question is, does the episode violate the grant under which WGBH
received federal funds? Mr. Godwin said, "The presence of a couple
headed by two mothers would not be appropriate curricular purpose that
PBS should provide."
The grant specifies the programs "should be designed to appeal to all
of America's children by providing them with content and characters
with which they can identify." In addition, the grant says, "Diversity
will be incorporated into the fabric of the series to help children
understand and respect differences and learn to live in a
multicultural society."
Brigid Sullivan, vice president for children's programming at WGBH,
has been producing children's shows for 20 years, including "Arthur,"
for many years the top-rated children's show. "This asked for a
project on diversity to all of America's children," she said. "We took
it seriously and thought that with 'Arthur,' the No. 1 show on
television for kids for years, we had something to draw kids in.
Buster is Arthur's best friend, the child of divorce, he has asthma.
Children sympathize with him. We had a breakthrough format, this
animated bunny with his camera getting live-action sequence. Not to
present a make-believe world of diversity but a real world."
Explaining the goal of the show, Ms. Sullivan said: "We want to
reflect all of America's children."
"This is not about their parents," she said.
.

User: "Zepp"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 27 Jan 2005 04:55:27 PM
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:49:35 -0600, Carol Lee Smith
<human@csd.uwm.edu> mumbled:

PBS has pulled a children's show because it depicts a family headed by
two lesbian women who are join in civil union in Vermont. The story is
below.

If you are a viewer or subscriber of/to a PBS station, let them know
of your displeasure here:
http://www.pbs.org/aboutsite/aboutsite_emailform.html

Or commend them for their decision as I did.
Thanks, Carol Lee, for the URL.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/arts/television/27bust.html?oref=login
Culture Wars Pull Buster Into the Fray
By JULIE SALAMON
Published: January 27, 2005

Wayne Godwin, chief operating officer of PBS, got a bit tangled as he
tried to explain the PBS stance on gay characters appearing on
children's television shows.

"In fairness I would have to say a gay character is not one we would
not include," he said, and then clarified. "The fact that a character
may or may not be gay is not a reason why they should or should not be
part of this series."

Yet on Tuesday PBS decided not to distribute to its roughly 350 PBS
stations an episode of "Postcards From Buster," which was scheduled
for Feb. 2 and included lesbian mothers, even though a few days
earlier PBS officials, among them PBS's president, Pat Mitchell,
viewed the episode and called it appropriate. That was before
Education Secretary Margaret Spellings denounced the program, starring
Buster Baxter, a cute animated rabbit who until now has been known
primarily as a close friend of Arthur, the world's most famous
aardvark. Ms. Spellings said many parents would not want children
exposed to a lesbian life style.

Buster joined another cartoon character, SpongeBob SquarePants, as a
focus of the nation's culture wars. SpongeBob was recently attacked by
Christian groups for being pro-homosexual, though SpongeBob's creator
said it was all a misinterpretation. Buster's offense was appearing in
"Sugartime!," the undistributed "Postcards From Buster" show, in which
he visits children living in Vermont whose parents are a lesbian
couple. Civil unions are allowed in Vermont.

"Postcards From Buster" is a spinoff of "Arthur" that combines live
action and animation and went on the air a year ago. In the series,
aimed at young elementary schoolchildren, Buster travels to 24
different states with his father and sends video postcards home.

Buster appears briefly onscreen, but mainly narrates these live-action
segments, which show real children and how they live. One episode
featured a family with five children, living in a trailer in Virginia,
all sharing one room. In another, Buster visits a Mormon family in
Utah. He has dropped in on fundamentalist Christians and Muslims as
well as American Indians and Hmong. He has shown the lives of children
who have only one parent, and those who live with grandparents.

Marc Brown, creator of "Arthur" and "Postcards From Buster," said in a
statement: "I am disappointed by PBS's decision not to distribute the
'Postcards From Buster' 'Sugartime!' episode to public television
stations. What we are trying to do in the series is connect kids with
other kids by reflecting their lives. In some episodes, as in the
Vermont one, we are validating children who are seldom validated. We
believe that 'Postcards From Buster' does this in a very natural way -
and, as always, from the point of view of children."

Jeanne Hopkins, a spokeswoman for the show's producer, WGBH-TV of
Boston, added, "We feel it's important that we not exclude kids
because of what their family structure looks like." WGBH plans to
broadcast the episode in March and offer it to other PBS stations.

Like the grown-ups in most of the episodes, the lesbian mothers in the
"Sugartime!" segment are mainly background. "The concern really was
that there's a point where background becomes foreground," Mr. Godwin
said. "No matter if the parents were intended to be background, with
this specific item in this particular program they might simply be
foreground because of press attention to it and parental attention to it."

The question is, does the episode violate the grant under which WGBH
received federal funds? Mr. Godwin said, "The presence of a couple
headed by two mothers would not be appropriate curricular purpose that
PBS should provide."

The grant specifies the programs "should be designed to appeal to all
of America's children by providing them with content and characters
with which they can identify." In addition, the grant says, "Diversity
will be incorporated into the fabric of the series to help children
understand and respect differences and learn to live in a
multicultural society."

Brigid Sullivan, vice president for children's programming at WGBH,
has been producing children's shows for 20 years, including "Arthur,"
for many years the top-rated children's show. "This asked for a
project on diversity to all of America's children," she said. "We took
it seriously and thought that with 'Arthur,' the No. 1 show on
television for kids for years, we had something to draw kids in.
Buster is Arthur's best friend, the child of divorce, he has asthma.
Children sympathize with him. We had a breakthrough format, this
animated bunny with his camera getting live-action sequence. Not to
present a make-believe world of diversity but a real world."

Explaining the goal of the show, Ms. Sullivan said: "We want to
reflect all of America's children."

"This is not about their parents," she said.

.
User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 27 Jan 2005 06:04:59 PM
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Zepp wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:49:35 -0600, Carol Lee Smith
<human@csd.uwm.edu> mumbled:

PBS has pulled a children's show because it depicts a family headed by
two lesbian women who are join in civil union in Vermont. The story is
below.
If you are a viewer or subscriber of/to a PBS station, let them know
of your displeasure here:
http://www.pbs.org/aboutsite/aboutsite_emailform.html

Or commend them for their decision as I did.
Thanks, Carol Lee, for the URL.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/arts/television/27bust.html?oref=login

You are most welcome.
Please tell us. On what basis do you feel the programming in question is
objectionable?
What is wrong with depicting children's lives when the parents are
homosexual? Was the episode which depicted a family with five children, living in a trailer in Virginia,

all sharing one room inappropriate?

Was the episode in which Buster visited a Mormon
family in Utah in approprate?
How about the episodes in which Buster dropped in on fundamentalist
Christians, Muslims, American Indians and Hmong?
Was it objectionable when the program depicted children who have only one
parent or those who live with grandparents?
Why discriminate against children of lesbian families in this way?
Do you have a good reason, or is it just a knee-jerk reaction?
WGBH plans to broadcast the episode in March and offer it to other PBS
stations. I hope there are markets in which the viewers are more
accepting of others and their lives than you are.
If the purpose of this program was to incorporate "Diversity into
the fabric of the series and to help children understand and respect
differences and learn to live in a multicultural society," why is the
program in question inappropriate?
.
User: "Gail Futoran"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 28 Jan 2005 10:38:02 AM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote
[snip]

What is wrong with depicting children's lives when the parents are
homosexual? Was the episode which depicted a family with five children,
living in a trailer in Virginia,

all sharing one room inappropriate?


Was the episode in which Buster visited a Mormon
family in Utah in approprate?

How about the episodes in which Buster dropped in on fundamentalist
Christians, Muslims, American Indians and Hmong?

Was it objectionable when the program depicted children who have only one
parent or those who live with grandparents?

Why discriminate against children of lesbian families in this way?

Do you have a good reason, or is it just a knee-jerk reaction?

WGBH plans to broadcast the episode in March and offer it to other PBS
stations. I hope there are markets in which the viewers are more
accepting of others and their lives than you are.

If the purpose of this program was to incorporate "Diversity into
the fabric of the series and to help children understand and respect
differences and learn to live in a multicultural society," why is the
program in question inappropriate?

Because the Bush Administration defines "freedom"
as "my way or the highway". Because you can only
be defined as a "tax paying citizen" if you are in a
relationship with a POTOS. Because "compassionate
conservative" actually means "if you're not one of us
you're evil incarnate". Because the FarRight can
push religion all day long even when it goes against
the US Constitution but to object however mildly
to such tactics is to be labeled "traitor". I could go
on but I need to lower my blood pressure.
Gail/Warrior Gardener
[still ***** after watching the Secy of
Ed on TV today ::groan:: ]
.

User: " jls"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 28 Jan 2005 09:07:15 AM
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050127175331.18510A-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, a counterfeit Zepp wrote:
If the purpose of this program was to incorporate "Diversity into
the fabric of the series and to help children understand and respect
differences and learn to live in a multicultural society," why is the
program in question inappropriate?


Evil, Ma'am. Evil, evil, evil. We must constantly fight it. Anything
unconventional, like a snake with no arms and legs is evil. Any lifestyle
which is incapable of procreating and assuring the re-population of the
tribe is evil. If the bible says woman lying with woman is evil, to
dispute the word is blasphemy.
.
User: "Shadow Walker"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 28 Jan 2005 12:00:20 PM
jls wrote:

"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050127175331.18510A-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, a counterfeit Zepp wrote:



If the purpose of this program was to incorporate "Diversity into
the fabric of the series and to help children understand and respect
differences and learn to live in a multicultural society," why is the
program in question inappropriate?




Evil, Ma'am. Evil, evil, evil. We must constantly fight it. Anything
unconventional, like a snake with no arms and legs is evil. Any lifestyle
which is incapable of procreating and assuring the re-population of the
tribe is evil. If the bible says woman lying with woman is evil, to
dispute the word is blasphemy.


I enjoy your sense of humor..
But, on a side note, women lying with women, _ISN'T_ Forbidden
by the Bible... the Patriarchs used to have Harems.
.

User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 30 Jan 2005 11:03:29 PM
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, jls wrote:

"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050127175331.18510A-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, a counterfeit Zepp wrote:

What did "a counterfeit Zepp" write? Nothing in the post to which I am
responding, right?

If the purpose of this program was to incorporate "Diversity into
the fabric of the series and to help children understand and respect
differences and learn to live in a multicultural society," why is the
program in question inappropriate?

Well, Zepp apparently has no answers to the questions I asked. Here they
are again:
Was the episode in which Buster visited a Mormon
family in Utah in approprate?
How about the episodes in which Buster dropped in on fundamentalist
Christians, Muslims, American Indians and Hmong?
Was it objectionable when the program depicted children who have only one
parent or those who live with grandparents?
Why discriminate against children of lesbian families in this way?
Do you have a good reason, or is it just a knee-jerk reaction?
WGBH plans to broadcast the episode in March and offer it to other PBS
stations. I hope there are markets in which the viewers are more
accepting of others and their lives than you are.

Evil, Ma'am. Evil, evil, evil. We must constantly fight it. Anything
unconventional, like a snake with no arms and legs is evil. Any lifestyle
which is incapable of procreating and assuring the re-population of the
tribe is evil. If the bible says woman lying with woman is evil, to
dispute the word is blasphemy.

Zepp probably resembles those remarks. <g>
www.fuckthesouth.com
http://www.bushflash.com/faith.html
.



User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 27 Jan 2005 07:33:48 PM
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Zepp wrote:

Thanks, Carol Lee, for the URL.

This program may excite you:
THE IDEAS NETWORK PROGRAM NOTES FOR FRIDAY, JANUARY 28, 2005
Listen to this program on line (see below)
6:00 AM (CST) Joy Cardin - in Milwaukee WHAD-FM 90.7
A P-B-S kids's show has been criticized for featuring two lesbian
couples... and now the U.S. Education Secretary has threatened to withdraw
federal funding for PBS. After six, Joy Cardin's guest explains why he
believes it's inappropriate for kids' shows to address homosexuality.
Guest: Peter LaBarbera (luh-barbara), executive director, Illinois Family
Institute.
Now you can listen to many Ideas Network programs from our Audio Archives
up to 12 months after their broadcast! And if you can't receive a WPR
station in your location, listen to our live webcasting channels! Both our
live webcasting and audio archives are located at
http://wpr.org/webcasting/


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/arts/television/27bust.html?oref=login
Culture Wars Pull Buster Into the Fray
By JULIE SALAMON

.


User: "duke"

Title: Re: PBS craters to RRR 27 Jan 2005 05:32:08 PM
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:49:35 -0600, Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:

PBS has pulled a children's show because it depicts a family headed by
two lesbian women who are join in civil union in Vermont. The story is
below.

If you are a viewer or subscriber of/to a PBS station, let them know
of your displeasure here:
http://www.pbs.org/aboutsite/aboutsite_emailform.html

I'm going to send an email complimenting them on a job well done.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
.


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