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"J Young" |
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24 Jul 2005 08:47:30 PM |
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Pedophile priests? |
Pedophile priests?
The phrase has such a great ring to it - for liberals, that is. It's
hot, punchy (with that double-p alliteration) and short enough for
headlines. All in all, a great tag for summing up one of the most
sensational news stories of the year.
The only problem is - it's a lie.
It turns out the vast majority of the Catholic priests' offenses do not
involve "pedophilia" - sexual contact between an adult and a
pre-pubescent youth. Rather, they amount to sexual seductions of
teen-age boys by predatory homosexual men who have abused their
position of authority and trust.
"The real problem the Catholic Church faces," explains Father Donald B.
Cozzens, author of "The Changing Face of the Priesthood," is the
"disproportionate number of gay men that populate our seminaries."
"I think we have to ask the question: Why are 90 to 95 - and some
estimates say as high as 98 - percent of the victims of clergy acting
out against teen-agers, boys? Why isn't there ... a higher percentage
of teen-age girls?" Cozzens declared on NBC's Meet the Press recently.
Stephen Rubino, a lawyer who has represented over 300 alleged victims
of priest abuse, estimates 85 percent of the victims have been teen-age
boys. And Catholic psychiatrist Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons, who has
treated many victims and offending priests, agrees with that figure,
noting that 90 percent of his patients are either abused teen-age males
or their priest abusers.
"This is chiefly a scandal about unchaste or criminal homosexuals in
the Catholic priesthood," sums up National Review senior writer Rod
Dreher. "For Catholics, to start asking questions about homosexuality
in the priesthood is to risk finding out more than many Church members
prefer to know. For journalists, to confront the issue is to risk
touching the electrified third rail of American popular culture: the
dark side of homosexuality."
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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24 Jul 2005 09:12:54 PM |
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Of course not...EVERYTHING about Catholicism is flawless and
perfect--otherwise it wouldn't fill J Young's empty life.
Paul
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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25 Jul 2005 11:41:37 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
It turns out the vast majority of the Catholic priests' offenses do not
involve "pedophilia" - sexual contact between an adult and a
pre-pubescent youth. Rather, they amount to sexual seductions of
teen-age boys by predatory homosexual men who have abused their
position of authority and trust.
Okay, so we should call them "ephebophiles" and live with it?
The word is so obscure that it doesn't have the ring of power to it, and
without that, it doesn't have the force necessary to create reform.
Elf
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| User: "turk" |
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24 Jul 2005 10:24:51 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1122256050.798556.83340@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pedophile priests?
The phrase has such a great ring to it - for liberals, that is. It's
hot, punchy (with that double-p alliteration) and short enough for
headlines. All in all, a great tag for summing up one of the most
sensational news stories of the year.
The only problem is - it's a lie.
It turns out the vast majority of the Catholic priests' offenses do not
involve "pedophilia" - sexual contact between an adult and a
pre-pubescent youth. Rather, they amount to sexual seductions of
teen-age boys by predatory homosexual men who have abused their
position of authority and trust.
Tomato...tomato.
turk
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My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and
choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of
Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King
impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold
hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the
first place.
-- Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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24 Jul 2005 10:31:54 PM |
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"turk" <turk96@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1122256050.798556.83340@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pedophile priests?
The phrase has such a great ring to it - for liberals, that is. It's
hot, punchy (with that double-p alliteration) and short enough for
headlines. All in all, a great tag for summing up one of the most
sensational news stories of the year.
The only problem is - it's a lie.
It turns out the vast majority of the Catholic priests' offenses do not
involve "pedophilia" - sexual contact between an adult and a
pre-pubescent youth. Rather, they amount to sexual seductions of
teen-age boys by predatory homosexual men who have abused their
position of authority and trust.
Tomato...tomato.
Of course, he totally overlooks the decades (and most probably centuries) of
the church turning its back on these kids/teens in order to create a
sheltered environment for both heterosexual and homosexual predators. The
church would certainly not be having these problems if they had simply
turned the offenders over to the proper authorities in the first place. Of
course, according to Young, it was alright if they molested girls, but an
outrage if they molested boys. Young is one warped individual.
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| User: "• Ninure Saunders" |
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25 Jul 2005 09:07:23 AM |
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"``There are thousands upon thousands of cases in which females were
abused,'' said Gary Richard Schoener, a Minnesota psychologist and expert
on clergy sexual abuse. ``Finally there is some attention on this issue
because there are far more priests who offend against girls and women than
against boys.''..."
http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/prie02252002.htm
Father Porter was raping a six-year-old girl when an eleven-year-old girl
valiantly tried to stop him. He violently sodomized her as a result.
Father Porter wrote to the Pope and admitted his predation, but the Pope
did nothing to prevent more of the same.
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Appparently the thousands upon thousands of cases if abuse and rape of
girls and women doesn't bother conserbative one bit....they consider it
healthy heterosexual behavior, it seems.
Pax Christi,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.MCCchurch.org
The Bible Site - help provide free scripture
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| User: "Matty" |
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26 Jul 2005 04:18:39 AM |
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On 2005-07-26 02:07:23 +1200,
RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk (• Ninure Saunders) said:
"``There are thousands upon thousands of cases in which females were
abused,'' said Gary Richard Schoener, a Minnesota psychologist and expert
on clergy sexual abuse. ``Finally there is some attention on this issue
because there are far more priests who offend against girls and women than
against boys.''..."
http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/prie02252002.htm
Father Porter was raping a six-year-old girl when an eleven-year-old girl
valiantly tried to stop him. He violently sodomized her as a result.
Father Porter wrote to the Pope and admitted his predation, but the Pope
did nothing to prevent more of the same.
===================================
Appparently the thousands upon thousands of cases if abuse and rape of
girls and women doesn't bother conserbative one bit....they consider it
healthy heterosexual behavior, it seems.
Pax Christi,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.MCCchurch.org
The Bible Site - help provide free scripture
http://www.thebiblesite.org
To send e-mail, remove nohate from address
According to heterosexuals here, its all ok because the priest was
'only raping a girl'.
Matty
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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24 Jul 2005 09:09:30 PM |
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A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual. Besides, not
all pedophile priests are homosexual, so your 'theory' goes right out the
window.
You may try again, and I advise digging a little deeper into the dark side
of religion.
--
Niels
Alt.Atheist #2237
"The thing that saved me was Upanishads; Hinduism. Where you have
practically the same mythology [as Roman Catholicism], but it has been
intellectually interpreted. Say, already in the 9th century BC the Hindus
realized that all the deities are projections of psychological powers and
they are within you not out there [points away]."
-Joseph Campbell in The Hero's Journey
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| User: "bam" |
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24 Jul 2005 09:36:09 PM |
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"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:dc1hk6$42e$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual.
Correct - J. Young said that the number of real pedophile cases was very
small. Forget pedophile. Most of the cases involved homos. Can't you read?
BAM
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Jul 2005 10:20:39 PM |
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In episode <mdYEe.26809$do5.744@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, bam burst into
the room and exclaimed:
Correct - J. Young said
So what J. Young said anything? He's just a crank with no life who
spends all day posting off topic crap to Usenet. That makes him expert in
what? Pathos?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "bam" |
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25 Jul 2005 07:10:17 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:1-ydnf1zIYYax3nfRVn-vg@megapath.net...
In episode <mdYEe.26809$do5.744@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, bam burst into
the room and exclaimed:
Correct - J. Young said
So what J. Young said anything? He's just a crank with no life who
spends all day posting off topic crap to Usenet. That makes him expert in
what? Pathos?
So what? So the responder was replying to a point that was not put forth.
That's "so what".
BAM
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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25 Jul 2005 01:06:20 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:10:17 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
That's "so what".
"You are a total fool. A total fool. A fool and a dunce. A fool, an
infidel and a coward." -- guess who said that?
"Shaddap." -- guess who said that?
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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24 Jul 2005 11:36:09 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:36:09 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Can't you read?
"You have no answer to this question because you use words to create
ambiguities and false impressions." -- guess who said that?
"Don't be a ninny." -- guess who said that?
"You know nothing." -- guess who said that?
"Shaddap." -- guess who said that?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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25 Jul 2005 02:36:52 AM |
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bam wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:dc1hk6$42e$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual.
Correct - J. Young said that the number of real pedophile cases was very
small. Forget pedophile. Most of the cases involved homos. Can't you read?
Question: What do you call it when a 45-year-old has sex with a
13-year-old? Forget gender. ALL of the cases involved pedophilia.
Can't you read?
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "bam" |
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25 Jul 2005 07:12:14 AM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:oE0Fe.3179$sc3.1020@trnddc07...
bam wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:dc1hk6$42e$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual.
Correct - J. Young said that the number of real pedophile cases was very
small. Forget pedophile. Most of the cases involved homos. Can't you
read?
Question: What do you call it when a 45-year-old has sex with a
13-year-old? Forget gender. ALL of the cases involved pedophilia. Can't
you read?
It ain't pedophilia, bub - not with teenagers. May be perverse, and illegal,
but it ain't pedophilia.
BAM
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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26 Jul 2005 01:25:06 PM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote
It ain't pedophilia, bub - not with teenagers. May be perverse, and
illegal, but it ain't pedophilia.
With heterosexual intercourse there is a cut-off. Intercourse before
menarche is paedophilia, intercourse after may be illegal but is
biologically normal intercourse.
With homosexual intercourse, no such clear line exists.
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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26 Jul 2005 03:42:14 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:25:06 +0000 (UTC), "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Intercourse before
menarche is paedophilia, intercourse after may be illegal but is
biologically normal intercourse.
Now that was a disgusting and disturbing glimpse into your psyche,
Mal.
Please keep your Lolita fantasies to yourself.
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| User: "•€R.L.Measures" |
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27 Jul 2005 10:16:41 AM |
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In article <hv7de15gllk0p28n7aoetf0pifqt2ehmsb@4ax.com>, "maf1029
(©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforeartthousaxophone> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:25:06 +0000 (UTC), "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Intercourse before
menarche is paedophilia, intercourse after may be illegal but is
biologically normal intercourse.
Now that was a disgusting and disturbing glimpse into your psyche,
Mal.
Please keep your Lolita fantasies to yourself.
• Any guy who has Lolita fantasies should see "Wedding Crashers".
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€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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25 Jul 2005 01:06:56 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:12:14 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
It ain't pedophilia, bub - not with teenagers. May be perverse, and illegal,
but it ain't pedophilia.
"You know they're just dupes trying to rectify a false conscience
like yourself."--- guess who said that?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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25 Jul 2005 06:57:50 PM |
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bam wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:oE0Fe.3179$sc3.1020@trnddc07...
bam wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:dc1hk6$42e$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual.
Correct - J. Young said that the number of real pedophile cases was very
small. Forget pedophile. Most of the cases involved homos. Can't you
read?
Question: What do you call it when a 45-year-old has sex with a
13-year-old? Forget gender. ALL of the cases involved pedophilia. Can't
you read?
It ain't pedophilia, bub - not with teenagers. May be perverse, and illegal,
but it ain't pedophilia.
ped·o·phil·i·a Audio pronunciation of "pedophilia" ( P )
Pronunciation Key (pd-fl-, pd-)
n.
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual
activity with a child or children.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
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ped·o·phil·i·a (pd-fl-, pd-)
n.
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual
activity with a child or children.
Source: The American Heritage® Stedman's Medical Dictionary
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Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia
Pronunciation: "pEd-&-'fil-E-&, "ped-
Variant: or chiefly British pae·do·phil·ia /"pEd-/
Function: noun
: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object
Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
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pedophilia
n : sexual activity of an adult with a child [syn: paedophilia]
Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University
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pedophilia
Sexual fondness and activity of adults with children.pedophilia is a
form of paraphilia (deviant sexual behaviour).
Published at the Centre for Cancer Education, University of Newcastle
upon Tyne
© Copyright 1997-2005 - The CancerWEB Project. All Rights Reserved.
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Main Entry: child
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural chil·dren
1 : a son or daughter of any age and usually including one formally
adopted —compare ISSUE
NOTE: The word child as used in a statute or will is often held to
include a stepchild, an illegitimate child, a person for whom one stands
in loco parentis, or sometimes a more remote descendant, such as a
grandchild. In interpreting the word child as used in a will, the court
will try to effectuate the intent of the person who made the will as it
can be determined from the language of the will.
2 : a person below an age specified by law : INFANT, MINOR <assault on a
child under 16 years of age> —compare ADULT
NOTE: A person who is below the statutory age but is married will
usually be considered an adult.
Source: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
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Main Entry: adult
Function: noun
: a person who has reached an age specified by law —compare CHILD,
INFANT, MINOR
Source: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
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Care to change your assertion?
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| User: "bam" |
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25 Jul 2005 08:03:05 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote
Care to change your assertion?
Nope.
Care to admit you're a dope?
BAM
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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26 Jul 2005 12:08:43 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:05 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Care to admit you're a dope?
"Shaddap." -- guess who said that?
"Don't be a ninny." -- guess who said that?
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| User: "bam" |
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26 Jul 2005 07:48:10 AM |
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"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforeartthousaxophone> wrote
in message news:u9hbe1plv80mvdot4djkc16ql6lfcntcth@4ax.com...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:05 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Care to admit you're a dope?
"Shaddap." -- guess who said that?
"Don't be a ninny." -- guess who said that?
Busy, busy, busy.
BAM
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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26 Jul 2005 08:45:17 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:48:10 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforeartthousaxophone> wrote
in message news:u9hbe1plv80mvdot4djkc16ql6lfcntcth@4ax.com...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:05 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Care to admit you're a dope?
"Shaddap." -- guess who said that?
"Don't be a ninny." -- guess who said that?
Busy, busy, busy.
"Care to admit you're a dope?"
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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25 Jul 2005 09:31:34 PM |
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bam wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote
Care to change your assertion?
Nope.
Care to admit you're a dope?
I knew that you couldn't admit that you were wrong.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "bam" |
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25 Jul 2005 10:20:34 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:aghFe.2006$Eo3.210@trnddc08...
bam wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote
Care to change your assertion?
Nope.
Care to admit you're a dope?
I knew that you couldn't admit that you were wrong.
How could that be? You don't know anything.
BAM
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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26 Jul 2005 12:09:21 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:20:34 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:aghFe.2006$Eo3.210@trnddc08...
bam wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote
Care to change your assertion?
Nope.
Care to admit you're a dope?
I knew that you couldn't admit that you were wrong.
How could that be? You don't know anything.
"You know nothing." -- guess who said that?
"Who asked for your stupid opinion?" -- guess who said that?
"Shaddap." -- guess who said that?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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25 Jul 2005 10:22:41 PM |
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bam wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:aghFe.2006$Eo3.210@trnddc08...
bam wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote
Care to change your assertion?
Nope.
Care to admit you're a dope?
I knew that you couldn't admit that you were wrong.
How could that be? You don't know anything.
Isn't that just precious. *pats bam on the head, gives him a cookie and
tucks him into bed*
Aw, he's just too pwecious!
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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25 Jul 2005 08:36:15 AM |
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In episode <oE0Fe.3179$sc3.1020@trnddc07>, DanielSan burst into the room
and exclaimed:
bam wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:dc1hk6$42e$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual.
Correct - J. Young said that the number of real pedophile cases was very
small. Forget pedophile. Most of the cases involved homos. Can't you
read?
Question: What do you call it when a 45-year-old has sex with a
13-year-old?
Well, technically if the youth is post-puberty it's "hebephilia" (also
"pederasty"). Also "ephebophila" is attraction to young people "about the
age of puberty."
Forget gender. ALL of the cases involved pedophilia. Can't
you read?
Actually and technically, very few involved actual pedophilia as such is
attraction to pre-pubescent children.
But we're talking technicalities and I suppose it all depends on what the
meaning of "is" is...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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25 Jul 2005 07:03:40 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In episode <oE0Fe.3179$sc3.1020@trnddc07>, DanielSan burst into the room
and exclaimed:
bam wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:dc1hk6$42e$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual.
Correct - J. Young said that the number of real pedophile cases was very
small. Forget pedophile. Most of the cases involved homos. Can't you
read?
Question: What do you call it when a 45-year-old has sex with a
13-year-old?
Well, technically if the youth is post-puberty it's "hebephilia" (also
"pederasty"). Also "ephebophila" is attraction to young people "about the
age of puberty."
Now now, no need to blow bam's mind right away. Remember, all the media
cares about is "pedophilia" which, in their minds, is sex with anyone
under the age of 18.
Forget gender. ALL of the cases involved pedophilia. Can't
you read?
Actually and technically, very few involved actual pedophilia as such is
attraction to pre-pubescent children.
But we're talking technicalities and I suppose it all depends on what the
meaning of "is" is...
Possibly, but technicalities and actualities matter little.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Pedophile priests? |
26 Jul 2005 10:28:22 AM |
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In episode <w5fFe.5792$dM3.3621@trnddc04>, DanielSan burst into the room
and exclaimed:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In episode <oE0Fe.3179$sc3.1020@trnddc07>, DanielSan burst into the room
and exclaimed:
bam wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:dc1hk6$42e$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
A homosexual isn't any more a pedophile than a heterosexual.
Correct - J. Young said that the number of real pedophile cases was
very small. Forget pedophile. Most of the cases involved homos. Can't
you read?
Question: What do you call it when a 45-year-old has sex with a
13-year-old?
Well, technically if the youth is post-puberty it's "hebephilia" (also
"pederasty"). Also "ephebophila" is attraction to young people "about
the age of puberty."
Now now, no need to blow bam's mind right away. Remember, all the media
cares about is "pedophilia" which, in their minds, is sex with anyone
under the age of 18.
Forget gender. ALL of the cases involved pedophilia. Can't you read?
Actually and technically, very few involved actual pedophilia as such is
attraction to pre-pubescent children.
But we're talking technicalities and I suppose it all depends on what
the meaning of "is" is...
Possibly, but technicalities and actualities matter little.
You'd think with all that spinning, Young would get dizzy.
(Then again, how could we tell?)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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