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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "sharon"
Date: 14 Nov 2003 02:06:50 PM
Object: Photographs of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes
One fellow in Lenny Flank's Debunk Creationism Group, located at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation MBaumeister sent some
photographs (and they are nice too) of the little vestigial limbs that still
exist on snakes today.
Now, when I was reading Richard Ellis' book "AquaGenesis" and he wrote at
length, about primitive snakes, and how they keep turning up snakes with
hind limbs on them. This is very clearly an evidence for evolution.
If not, then God simply had it in, "big time" for snakes with legs. It's a
wonder everything with legs didn't get wiped out in the flood (if that's
what Creationists would say, brought about the extinction of so many
species.... all with legs).
Anyway, the photographs are available with MBaumeister's permission to
publish them. Those with weaker stomachs should be forewarned, they're not
your typical legs.
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=19&s=7376b
e15fac0e8312f88d277359d2879
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User: "Mekkala"

Title: Re: Photographs of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes 17 Nov 2003 04:06:30 PM
On 14 Nov 2003, "sharon" <*...@....com> screwed up his face, groaned,
pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:3fb535eb$1_6@athenanews.com:

One fellow in Lenny Flank's Debunk Creationism Group, located at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation MBaumeister sent some
photographs (and they are nice too) of the little vestigial limbs that
still exist on snakes today.

Now, when I was reading Richard Ellis' book "AquaGenesis" and he wrote
at length, about primitive snakes, and how they keep turning up snakes
with hind limbs on them. This is very clearly an evidence for
evolution.

If not, then God simply had it in, "big time" for snakes with legs.
It's a wonder everything with legs didn't get wiped out in the flood
(if that's what Creationists would say, brought about the extinction
of so many species.... all with legs).

Anyway, the photographs are available with MBaumeister's permission to
publish them. Those with weaker stomachs should be forewarned, they're
not your typical legs.

http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=19

&s=

7376b e15fac0e8312f88d277359d2879


Weaker stomachs? That doesn't look disgusting to me at all... just a
couple of little bumps sticking out of its belly.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
realized I was talking to myself!"
--Peter O'Toole.
.

User: "Red Dragon"

Title: Re: Photographs of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes 15 Nov 2003 03:46:54 AM
Yes. This is evidence for evolution.
Vestigial parts also exist for man such as the appendix and the coccyx
bone of humans. I saw a baby once born with a small tail which was later
surgically removed. Whales also has remnant of hind legs because whales
are evolved from land mammals.
Khoon.

Now, when I was reading Richard Ellis' book "AquaGenesis" and he wrote at
length, about primitive snakes, and how they keep turning up snakes with
hind limbs on them. This is very clearly an evidence for evolution.

If not, then God simply had it in, "big time" for snakes with legs. It's a
wonder everything with legs didn't get wiped out in the flood (if that's
what Creationists would say, brought about the extinction of so many
species.... all with legs).

Anyway, the photographs are available with MBaumeister's permission to
publish them. Those with weaker stomachs should be forewarned, they're not
your typical legs.


http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=19&s=7376b

e15fac0e8312f88d277359d2879


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User: "Snubis"

Title: Re: Photographs of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes 09 Dec 2003 04:17:42 PM
On Sat 15 Nov 2003 04:46:54a, "Red Dragon" <tasek@pc.jaring.my> wrote in
news:bp4snu$hvf$1@news5.jaring.my:

Yes. This is evidence for evolution.
Vestigial parts also exist for man such as the appendix and the
coccyx bone of humans.

You idiot! They aren't vestigial. Scientists have know their function for
years.
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User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Photographs of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes 09 Dec 2003 04:52:18 PM
"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:96d7206d49cd0091d7de406f22004667@news.teranews.com...

On Sat 15 Nov 2003 04:46:54a, "Red Dragon" <tasek@pc.jaring.my> wrote in
news:bp4snu$hvf$1@news5.jaring.my:

Yes. This is evidence for evolution.
Vestigial parts also exist for man such as the appendix and the
coccyx bone of humans.


You idiot! They aren't vestigial. Scientists have know their function for
years.

Give a *scientific* reason why vestigial characteristics cannot serve a
function, albeit a different one than they originally served. Show your
work.
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User: "Snubis"

Title: Re: Photographs of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes 15 Dec 2003 08:20:38 PM
On Tue 09 Dec 2003 05:52:18p, "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in
news:CmsBb.1864$l%1.1158@fe2.columbus.rr.com:

"Snubis" <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:96d7206d49cd0091d7de406f22004667@news.teranews.com...

On Sat 15 Nov 2003 04:46:54a, "Red Dragon" <tasek@pc.jaring.my> wrote
in news:bp4snu$hvf$1@news5.jaring.my:

Yes. This is evidence for evolution.
Vestigial parts also exist for man such as the appendix and the
coccyx bone of humans.


You idiot! They aren't vestigial. Scientists have know their function
for years.


Give a *scientific* reason why vestigial characteristics cannot serve a
function, albeit a different one than they originally served. Show your
work.

How do you know what funtion they originally served?
.


User: "mel turner"

Title: Re: Photographs of Vestigial Hind Limbs on Snakes 09 Dec 2003 05:45:12 PM
In article <96d7206d49cd0091d7de406f22004667@news.teranews.com>,

wrote...

On Sat 15 Nov 2003 04:46:54a, "Red Dragon" <tasek@pc.jaring.my> wrote in
news:bp4snu$hvf$1@news5.jaring.my:

Yes. This is evidence for evolution.
Vestigial parts also exist for man such as the appendix and the
coccyx bone of humans.


You idiot! They aren't vestigial. Scientists have know their function for
years.

"Vestigial" doesn't mean "without any function". Vestigial
parts are merely reduced compared to their ancestral,
precursor versions. Some snakes do still have vestigial hind
limbs. Humans [and the other great apes] do have vestigial
tails [the coccyx]. Cave-dwelling critters often have vestigial
eyes.
http://www.talkorigins.org/
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/outline.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-mustread.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-evolution.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html
http://evolution.mbdojo.com/evolution-for-beginners.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/other-links-gensci.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/other-links.html#evolution
etc.
cheers
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