Religions > Atheism > Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Satan himself
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21 Nov 2003 02:13:00 AM |
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Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Satan himself |
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it, this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
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21 Nov 2003 12:12:43 PM |
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message news:<3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>...
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it, this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
Darn it! I don't see any of it! And I was *so hoping for proof.
jwk
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| User: "Dangorn" |
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28 Nov 2003 12:14:06 AM |
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"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message news:<3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>...
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it, this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
I think I saw Elvis in one of those pictures!
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Nov 2003 02:08:51 AM |
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In article <c734388c.0311272214.72f2b835@posting.google.com>,
(Dangorn) wrote:
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message news:<3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>...
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it, this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
I think I saw Elvis in one of those pictures!
I saw Bigfoot! And a chupacabra!
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John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Mylon" |
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| Title: Re: Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Satan himself |
28 Nov 2003 10:17:19 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote in message
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I saw Bigfoot! And a chupacabra!
A chupacabra? Pfft, I saw 20!
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| User: "johac" |
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29 Nov 2003 01:31:21 AM |
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In article <jyKxb.53899$M31.1323913@twister.tampabay.rr.com>,
"Mylon" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-665161.00085128112003@news-central.ash.giganews.com...
I saw Bigfoot! And a chupacabra!
A chupacabra? Pfft, I saw 20!
....and leprechauns, hundreds of them!
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John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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21 Nov 2003 04:35:18 PM |
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In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, "sharon" <*...@....com>
wrote:
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it, this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
*
Send them to Ed Conrad.
earle
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| User: "Liam" |
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27 Nov 2003 03:58:10 PM |
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Yeah, Ed probably has petrified angel toenails for sale on ebay.
Liam
Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<earle.jones-715AC5.14351821112003@netnews.attbi.com>...
In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, "sharon" <*...@....com>
wrote:
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it, this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
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Send them to Ed Conrad.
earle
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| User: "BDK" |
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21 Nov 2003 04:51:38 AM |
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In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it, this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
LOL, you need to see a doctor, an eye doctor at least, but I doubt he's
the right kind of doctor for you...
Don't you have some pills to take or something??
BDK
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| User: "John Baker" |
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21 Nov 2003 04:55:33 AM |
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"BDK" <kingratboyoboy@buckeye-express.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27b841d14cba9498980a@news.buckeye-express.com...
In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to
confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it,
this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will
think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
LOL, you need to see a doctor, an eye doctor at least, but I doubt he's
the right kind of doctor for you...
Don't you have some pills to take or something??
It's quite obvious there's nothing unusual in the photographs, but that's no
doubt the entire point. Sharon has a unique sense of humor. <G>
BDK
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| User: "sharon" |
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21 Nov 2003 09:24:01 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:Famvb.18046$up3.8679@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
"BDK" <kingratboyoboy@buckeye-express.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27b841d14cba9498980a@news.buckeye-express.com...
In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to
confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it,
this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will
think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
LOL, you need to see a doctor, an eye doctor at least, but I doubt he's
the right kind of doctor for you...
Don't you have some pills to take or something??
It's quite obvious there's nothing unusual in the photographs, but that's
no
doubt the entire point. Sharon has a unique sense of humor. <G>
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
It only takes faith... Go back, and just believe.
BDK
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| User: "quibbler" |
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21 Nov 2003 10:03:03 AM |
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In article <3fbe2e2d_9@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:Famvb.18046$up3.8679@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
"BDK" <kingratboyoboy@buckeye-express.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27b841d14cba9498980a@news.buckeye-express.com...
In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to
confirm
the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water.
As they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it,
this
picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers will
think
about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
LOL, you need to see a doctor, an eye doctor at least, but I doubt he's
the right kind of doctor for you...
Don't you have some pills to take or something??
It's quite obvious there's nothing unusual in the photographs, but that's
no
doubt the entire point. Sharon has a unique sense of humor. <G>
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
Then why have photographs? All but the first photo had nothing and the
first photo appears to have been quite obviously doctored to produce some
vague, blurry smudges. None of that inspires much faith, I'm afraid.
--
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "sharon" |
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21 Nov 2003 10:25:03 AM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27e50c4da2483f98969e@news.cis.dfn.de...
In article <3fbe2e2d_9@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
Then why have photographs? All but the first photo had nothing and the
first photo appears to have been quite obviously doctored to produce some
vague, blurry smudges. None of that inspires much faith, I'm afraid.
You saw blurry smudges...that's a start ... don't lose faith, you ARE making
progress.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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21 Nov 2003 11:37:58 AM |
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In article <3fbe3c7b_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
"quibbler" <quibbler247@atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27e50c4da2483f98969e@news.cis.dfn.de...
In article <3fbe2e2d_9@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
Then why have photographs? All but the first photo had nothing and the
first photo appears to have been quite obviously doctored to produce some
vague, blurry smudges. None of that inspires much faith, I'm afraid.
You saw blurry smudges...that's a start ... don't lose faith, you ARE making
progress.
Ummm... the first one very definitely has some blurry crap placed in
there. That doesn't mean it's any kind of angel, demon, etc. What it
means is that it has almost certainly been intentionally altered and
faked. On the off chance that it wasn't intentional, there are many well
known photographic phenomena which can produce weird effects on
particular exposures. The other ones have absolutely nothing. Of course,
I have a slight problem with distinguishing some reds and greens, so I
sometimes see pictures a little differently than others do. But I don't
think I'm seeing these particular pictures that differently than anyone
else.
--
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Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Wolf333" |
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21 Nov 2003 11:43:47 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27fb5f9b9587189896a7@news.cis.dfn.de...
In article <3fbe3c7b_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
"quibbler" <quibbler247@atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27e50c4da2483f98969e@news.cis.dfn.de...
In article <3fbe2e2d_9@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
Then why have photographs? All but the first photo had nothing and
the
first photo appears to have been quite obviously doctored to produce
some
vague, blurry smudges. None of that inspires much faith, I'm afraid.
You saw blurry smudges...that's a start ... don't lose faith, you ARE
making
progress.
Ummm... the first one very definitely has some blurry crap placed in
there. That doesn't mean it's any kind of angel, demon, etc. What it
means is that it has almost certainly been intentionally altered and
faked. On the off chance that it wasn't intentional, there are many well
known photographic phenomena which can produce weird effects on
particular exposures. The other ones have absolutely nothing. Of course,
I have a slight problem with distinguishing some reds and greens, so I
sometimes see pictures a little differently than others do. But I don't
think I'm seeing these particular pictures that differently than anyone
else.
<begin Foghorn Leghorn mode>
It's a joke, son...
<end Foghorn Leghorn mode>
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"Everyone gather 'round! It's time for pastel-tinted hairy balls with salsa
verde!"
Michael Wolfe
aa #1912
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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26 Nov 2003 07:51:41 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:25:03 -0500, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27e50c4da2483f98969e@news.cis.dfn.de...
In article <3fbe2e2d_9@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
Then why have photographs? All but the first photo had nothing and the
first photo appears to have been quite obviously doctored to produce some
vague, blurry smudges. None of that inspires much faith, I'm afraid.
You saw blurry smudges...that's a start ... don't lose faith, you ARE making
progress.
Taken by the same cameras used to photograph UFOs and the Lock Ness
monster.
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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27 Nov 2003 12:56:21 PM |
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From: E. L. (nyceddie@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Sharon!
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Newsgroups: talk.atheism
Date: 2003-11-21 13:05:51 PST
Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Satan himself
Group: talk.atheism
Date: Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 3:13am
From: *...@....com (sharon)
http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=59f5d
47d2185113acae5bbe308d596b6
I am very excited about these five photographs that I've obtained.
I wanted to share them with ANY Christians that might be around, to
confirm the faith.
The skeptics no longer have an argument that will hold water. As they
say, a picture is worth 1000 words.
The one photograph is believed to contain an outline of Satan in it,
this picture is astounding. I don't know what Paranormal researchers
will think about it, but I'm overwhelmed with this evidence!
el: "There is no doubt that all religious believers have been mentally
conditioned to the point where they don't even recognize this fact.
However, not all are as deluded as Sharon who one of these days will
look down into her toilet after a good dump and see Jesus waving at her
from an odd-shaped turd. Maybe even the virgin Mary. Or her own
image."
Sharon: And some people are so full of rage and hatred for religion, and in
itself it is a type of brainwashing. Enough so, that they lose sight of what
is intended to be religious SATIRE and/or PARODY.
Take a deep breath, exhale... calm down... the religious right is not going
to get us all.
There will be no "New World Odor" ran by Führer Pat Robertson.
The entire point was that NOTHING was there... nothing was there...
nothing.... nothing...
Please don't make the same mistake religious zealots make --- you saw some
religious satire, and felt it was attacking your beliefs... so you strike
back in words of hatred --- that's as bad as a belief in demons, and
believers who've persecuted and hated those they perceived as a threat to
their beliefs. People were burned at the stake for their beliefs through
history... NOTHING was there for you to attack. Nothing was there.
As Gandhi said, he was ready to die for his convictions, but there was no
conviction he was willing to kill for.
Hatred serves humanity no good purpose. You are a humanist I assume?
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"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45masv0ofda4p9ksnuk7auok7o90o8qi50@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:25:03 -0500, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27e50c4da2483f98969e@news.cis.dfn.de...
In article <3fbe2e2d_9@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
Then why have photographs? All but the first photo had nothing and the
first photo appears to have been quite obviously doctored to produce
some
vague, blurry smudges. None of that inspires much faith, I'm afraid.
You saw blurry smudges...that's a start ... don't lose faith, you ARE
making
progress.
Taken by the same cameras used to photograph UFOs and the Lock Ness
monster.
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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27 Nov 2003 01:19:30 PM |
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Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Satan himself
Group: talk.atheism
Date: Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 3:13am
From: *...@....com (sharon)
el: "There is no doubt that all religious believers have been mentally
conditioned to the point where they don't even recognize this fact.
However, not all are as deluded as Sharon who one of these days will
look down into her toilet after a good dump and see Jesus waving at her
from an odd-shaped turd. Maybe even the virgin Mary. Or her own
image."
Everyone please --- John Baker was one who got it right from the start ---
the whole purpose of these photographs was that there was
nothing_out_of_the_ordinary about the photographs. That was the whole
point... *smile*
It was only to poke humor at people who believe in demons and devils ---
they claim, they'll swear on their life a devil (a spirit, a boogeyman) is
alive and running this planet, and his spirit demon hordes are assisting
him, and demons (aka evil spirits) are all about trying to devour them and
everyone else... but if you ask them "Show me a demon" -- there are none.
They can't produce evidence. (Evidence all hangs on the latter parts of the
Old Testament and the New Testament -- the writers believed in these
mythological beings --- Canaanite- Hebrew Religion became tainted with Greek
and Persian mythologies... and thus "demons" evolved in latter scriptures.
Those photographs are as good of evidence as anyone has for "demons"...
aside of drawings conjeured up out of the wild imaginations of Christians in
the Mideaval Church --- or you can turn to Hollywood movies for more
demons... but these things simply aren't proof evil spirits exist.
My photographs were simple photographs of normal scenery... a desert scene,
a picture inside a church, and a stream running down a mountainside...
Christians would say a demon is there... in what is clear thin air, and when
you look around, NOTHING is there.
That's the whole point --- NOTHING is there in the thin air... except the
clouds, the trees, the mountains, the waterfalls -- in the empty rooms ---
there's no demons in them, and no devils.
When people believe in these things, with their whole heart --- it is
dangerous, because they begin to live in a delusional reality --- and not
"Reality".
In short -- IT WAS MEANT AS A JOKE.... HUMOR --- has anyone out there still
a sense of humor?
"sharon" <*...@....com> wrote in message news:3fc648fc_2@athenanews.com...
From: E. L. (nyceddie@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be
Sharon!
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: talk.atheism
Date: 2003-11-21 13:05:51 PST
Sharon: And some people are so full of rage and hatred for religion, and
in
itself it is a type of brainwashing. Enough so, that they lose sight of
what
is intended to be religious SATIRE and/or PARODY.
Take a deep breath, exhale... calm down... the religious right is not
going
to get us all.
There will be no "New World Odor" ran by Führer Pat Robertson.
The entire point was that NOTHING was there... nothing was there...
nothing.... nothing...
Please don't make the same mistake religious zealots make --- you saw some
religious satire, and felt it was attacking your beliefs... so you strike
back in words of hatred --- that's as bad as a belief in demons, and
believers who've persecuted and hated those they perceived as a threat to
their beliefs. People were burned at the stake for their beliefs through
history... NOTHING was there for you to attack. Nothing was there.
As Gandhi said, he was ready to die for his convictions, but there was no
conviction he was willing to kill for.
Hatred serves humanity no good purpose. You are a humanist I assume?
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"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45masv0ofda4p9ksnuk7auok7o90o8qi50@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:25:03 -0500, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27e50c4da2483f98969e@news.cis.dfn.de...
In article <3fbe2e2d_9@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
The problem is you must take things as these on Faith!
Then why have photographs? All but the first photo had nothing and
the
first photo appears to have been quite obviously doctored to produce
some
vague, blurry smudges. None of that inspires much faith, I'm afraid.
You saw blurry smudges...that's a start ... don't lose faith, you ARE
making
progress.
Taken by the same cameras used to photograph UFOs and the Lock Ness
monster.
-Barry
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http://skeptical-christian.net/debatefaith/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=39&s=769b5
f8d71301eb3a3c81843903ef249
It is believed that the outline of Satan appeared in this picture when it
was taken.
I looked really hard, but I don't see the outline of the Talking Snake
anywhere in the picture. Perhaps he is just magically blinding me and
keeping me from seeing the glory of his outline, though. After all, if it's
reasonable to believe that a talking animal is blinding me (and most of the
rest of the world) from seeing the alleged TRUTH of the Fabulous Magical
Myth of Kryasst, perhaps it's not too much of a stretch to believe that he
could magically blind me from seeing his outline in a picture. Amen? Glory!
Jeff
http://www.religionisbullshit.com/forums
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21 Nov 2003 10:22:03 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:Famvb.18046$up3.8679@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
"BDK" <kingratboyoboy@buckeye-express.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27b841d14cba9498980a@news.buckeye-express.com...
In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
LOL, you need to see a doctor, an eye doctor at least, but I doubt he's
the right kind of doctor for you...
It's quite obvious there's nothing unusual in the photographs, but that's
no
doubt the entire point. Sharon has a unique sense of humor. <G>
Only some dry sarcasm about Christians. *smile*
A couple years ago on the world news, they featured a story about a volcano
that was erupting overseas, and all the damage it had caused --- the
newscaster made the comment "The Natives believes a demon lives inside the
mountain." An angry demon makes the mountain roar and move. (To them, it is
completely realistic to believe, without science. Besides hearing this
explanation all their life.)
If you tell a Christian that a demon lives inside a mountain, they will mark
it off as superstitious nonsense... even *heathen* nonsense. Yet they go on
themselves acknowledging their own demons and devils, even to this day. To
deny demons, they will think you are going to hell, for denying what is
written in the Bible. The Bible says there is a Satan and demons, and
therefore it is blaspheme to deny a belief in them. Will they ever see the
connection between superstitious natives, and their own beliefs? Yes, the
photos I gave had nothing unusual in them --- nothing is there... That's the
point. NOTHING is there. The faithful fundamentalist Christians have
hundreds of thousands of stories to tell about how Satan is running the
world, and demons are destroying society... and where are these demons?
Where is one photograph of a demon? Nobody has yet succeeded to point out so
much as one demon in my entire life... but some of the people at the local
churches would hysterically instruct to anoint the windows and doors with
oil --- and offering up prayers to keep the evil spirits out. I wish some
Christian would understand my point --- when they're told "This is a photo
of a demon", and they look and seeing nothing --- and then it sink in,
there's nothing there, and they have never seen these so-called evil spirits
they fervently claim to be real... completely mythological leftovers from
very primitive times.
I feel pity on Christians who believe in such superstitions. There is ONLY
one positive thing, that being if you believe in devils and demons, it makes
Blatty's "The Exorcist" a whole lot more exciting. But Christians cannot
criticize anyone as ignorant, or superstitious for believing an "angry
demon" makes volcanos erupt.
http://www.d.umn.edu/~rmorton/ronshome/Volcanoes/Volintro.html
3) Later on it was the early christians who blamed volcanoes on the devil.
They turned Vulcan into a demon, and his angry voice, coming from the
smoking mountain, was trying to drown out the moans and screams of torment
of all the lost souls.
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Together through the mist of myth, the richness of legend, and the dawn of
understanding.
At the start it was to please and appease the gods.
1) An azrec priest, armed with a knife, the handle of gold and platinum,
slaughters captives on the peak of a rumbling mountain.
2) A young girl, colorfully dressed, bright flowers in her hair, is led by a
village chief up a smoking mountain. At the top, trembling, she steps over
the edge and for the moment the god is satisfied.
In other parts of the world:
1) It was to explain what was believed to be smoke and fire, and to give
some understanding to the awful noise. So was born Vulcan, his forges, and
his chief helpers-cyclops.
2) In Indonesia it was the great snake Hontobago. When he moved his body the
earth shook, fire flew from the mountains, and even the gods were afraid.
3) Later on it was the early christians who blamed volcanoes on the devil.
They turned Vulcan into a demon, and his angry voice, coming from the
smoking mountain, was trying to drown out the moans and screams of torment
of all the lost souls.
4) In the middle ages it was largely believed that the Icelandic volcano
Hekla was the gateway to hell, and the hissing chunks thrown out of it were
the souls of the damned.
5) There were those, however, who viewed volcanoes in a different way. Mark
Twain was fond of saying "the smell of sulfur is strong, but not unpleasant
for a sinner."
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Satan himself |
26 Nov 2003 07:51:43 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:22:03 -0500, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:Famvb.18046$up3.8679@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
"BDK" <kingratboyoboy@buckeye-express.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a27b841d14cba9498980a@news.buckeye-express.com...
In article <3fbdc926$1_1@athenanews.com>, *...@....com says...
LOL, you need to see a doctor, an eye doctor at least, but I doubt he's
the right kind of doctor for you...
It's quite obvious there's nothing unusual in the photographs, but that's
no
doubt the entire point. Sharon has a unique sense of humor. <G>
Only some dry sarcasm about Christians. *smile*
A couple years ago on the world news, they featured a story about a volcano
that was erupting overseas, and all the damage it had caused --- the
newscaster made the comment "The Natives believes a demon lives inside the
mountain." An angry demon makes the mountain roar and move. (To them, it is
completely realistic to believe, without science. Besides hearing this
explanation all their life.)
If you tell a Christian that a demon lives inside a mountain, they will mark
it off as superstitious nonsense... even *heathen* nonsense. Yet they go on
themselves acknowledging their own demons and devils, even to this day. To
deny demons, they will think you are going to hell, for denying what is
written in the Bible. The Bible says there is a Satan and demons, and
therefore it is blaspheme to deny a belief in them. Will they ever see the
connection between superstitious natives, and their own beliefs? Yes, the
photos I gave had nothing unusual in them --- nothing is there... That's the
point. NOTHING is there. The faithful fundamentalist Christians have
hundreds of thousands of stories to tell about how Satan is running the
world, and demons are destroying society... and where are these demons?
Where is one photograph of a demon? Nobody has yet succeeded to point out so
much as one demon in my entire life... but some of the people at the local
churches would hysterically instruct to anoint the windows and doors with
oil --- and offering up prayers to keep the evil spirits out.
Churches have all sorts of anointing to keep demons away, and a lightning
rod on the top of the spire.
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
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| User: "sharon" |
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| Title: Re: Pictures of REAL Demons, Angels and one believed to be Satan himself |
26 Nov 2003 08:52:10 PM |
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"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:95masvk15hhuijculat9ag9dkheo721f62@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:22:03 -0500, "sharon" <*...@....com> wrote:
If you tell a Christian that a demon lives inside a mountain, they will
mark
it off as superstitious nonsense... even *heathen* nonsense. Yet they go
on
themselves acknowledging their own demons and devils, even to this day.
To
deny demons, they will think you are going to hell, for denying what is
written in the Bible. The Bible says there is a Satan and demons, and
therefore it is blaspheme to deny a belief in them. Will they ever see
the
connection between superstitious natives, and their own beliefs? Yes, the
photos I gave had nothing unusual in them --- nothing is there... That's
the
point. NOTHING is there. The faithful fundamentalist Christians have
hundreds of thousands of stories to tell about how Satan is running the
world, and demons are destroying society... and where are these demons?
Where is one photograph of a demon? Nobody has yet succeeded to point out
so
much as one demon in my entire life... but some of the people at the
local
churches would hysterically instruct to anoint the windows and doors with
oil --- and offering up prayers to keep the evil spirits out.
Churches have all sorts of anointing to keep demons away, and a lightning
rod on the top of the spire.
Are you sure about that lightning rod? Like everything else, paranoia and
superstition prevailed, before they could accept science.
Lightning and Enlightenment
Compiled by Edward T. Babinski
Christians used to believe that thunder storms and lightning bolts were
directed by God to "discipline his servants and teach us important lessons,"
or they were directed by Satan ("the Prince of the Power of the Air") and
his demons, or they were called forth by "witches" to "try and destroy God's
holy sanctuaries and ministers." Such "sacred" explanations were vouched for
by leading Christian authorities. For instance, the Catholic theologian,
Thomas Aquinas wrote, "It is a dogma of faith that demons can produce winds,
storms, and rains of fire (lightning) from heaven." While, Pope Gregory XIII
advocated "exorcising the demons" who "do stir up the clouds." The
Protestant theologian, Martin Luther supported the superstition even more
zealously, asserting at times his belief that the winds themselves are only
good or evil spirits, and declaring that a stone thrown into a certain pond
in his native region would cause a dreadful storm because of the devils kept
prisoners there.
Numerous pious authors also testified how well the old "sacred" remedies
succeeded in protecting churches and cathedrals from the ravages of
lightning strikes and storms. Such "sacred" remedies included ringing
church-bells and reciting special prayers. Hence, when Benjamin Franklin
invented his "lightning rod" in 1752, most Christians were far from eager to
place a "rod of iron" designed by an "arch-heretic" at the top of their
churches near the holy cross of Christ. Neither did they desire to abandon
the ancient Christian game of praising God (or blaming the devil), for
lightning strikes and storms.
In America the earthquake of 1755 was widely ascribed, especially in
Massachusetts, to Franklin's rod. The Rev. Thomas Prince, pastor of the Old
South Church, published a sermon on the subject, and in the appendix
expressed the opinion that the frequency of earthquakes may be due to the
erection of "iron points invented by the sagacious Mr. Franklin." He goes on
to argue that "in Boston are more erected than anywhere else in New England,
and Boston seems to be more dreadfully shaken. Oh! There is no getting out
of the mighty hand of God."
Three years later, John Adams, speaking of a conversation with a Boston
physician, says, "He began to go on about the presumption of erecting iron
rods to draw the lightning from the clouds. He talked of presuming upon God,
as Peter, attempted to walk upon the water, and of attempting to control the
artillery of heaven."
As late as 1770 many religious Americans still felt that, since thunder and
lightning were tokens of the Divine displeasure, it was impiety to prevent
their doing their full work. It took a few decades for the devout to abandon
their religious prejudices regarding the use of the lightning rod, but
eventually it was demonstrated to all but the most dense that both the
"vengeance of God" and the "Prince of the Power of the Air" were forced to
retreat before the lightning-rod of a heretic.
- A. D. White, A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology & E.T.B.
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Churches in Germany shunned Franklin's new invention for three decades,
during which time some 400 church towers were damaged by lightning and 120
bell ringers killed. In one church a bolt of lightning struck the tower and
melted the bell, electrocuted the priest, deprived a parishioner of her
sensibilities and destroyed a painting of the Savior. Church towers, being
the highest structures in a village, are commonly struck by lightning, while
brothels and saloons next door escape untouched.
- William Deitz, Creation/Evolution Satiricon
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It was long before the churches consented to be protected by the heretical
tool. The tower of St. Mark's in Venice had at the time of Franklin's
invention been struck again and again by lightning, sometimes with such
disastrous effects that it had been almost destroyed. The Almighty, or
alternatively the Powers of Darkness, seemed to have singled it out for
special punishment, in spite of the angel that adorned its summit, the
consecrated bells which were repeatedly rung to drive away the thunder, the
holy relics in the cathedral nearby and the processions of the Virgin and
the patron saint. The tower was struck again in two successive summers,
whereupon the authorities succumbed and a lightning rod was erected. The
edifice has never been damaged by lightning since, but God alone has
received the thanks of a grateful people. In Austria the church of Rosenberg
was struck so frequently and with such loss of life that the peasants feared
to attend services. Three times the spire had to be rebuilt, until the devil
was exorcised by an iron rod. Such was also the history of St. Bride's and
St. Paul's in London, the cathedrals of Sienna and Strasburg and of other
churches throughout Europe and America; they were protected only after it
was evident that not to do so was to lay them open to repeated injury.
- Homer W. Smith, Man and His Gods (Boston: Little Brown and Co., 1952)
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The case which did the most to convert the Italian theologians to the
scientific view of lightning and the use of the lightning rod was that of
the church of San Nazaro, at Brescia. The Republic of Venice had stored in
the vaults of this church over two hundred thousand pounds of gunpowder. In
1767, seventeen years after Franklin's discovery, no rod having been placed
upon it, it was struck by lightning, the powder in the vaults was exploded,
one sixth of the entire city destroyed, and over three thousand lives were
lost.
Examples like that had their effect. The formulas for conjuring off storms,
for consecrating bells to ward off lightning and tempests, and for putting
to flight the powers of the air, were still allowed to stand in the
liturgies; but the lightning-rod, the barometer, and the thermometer,
carried the day.
- A. D. White, A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology & E.T.B.
____________________________
Ben Franklin's life-saving invention, the lightning rod, was condemned by
many Christians as an insult to Almighty God, or at least, to his aim.
Because the Bible says God "sends forth lightnings...He covers His hands
with the lightning. And commands it to strike the mark. Its noise declares
His presence?Under the whole heaven He lets it loose, And His lightning to
the ends of the earth... Whether for correction, or for His world, Or for
loving kindness, He causes it to happen."
[Job 36:27-33 & 37:1-13 & 38:35]
And Ben Franklin sang, "Nya, nya-nya, nya, nya. Can't hit me!"
- E.T.B.
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THE HERETICAL WISDOM OF THE INVENTOR OF THE LIGHTNING ROD
Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.
Original sin is as ridiculous as imputed righteousness.
As to Jesus, I have some doubt as to his divinity.
- Benjamin Franklin, quoted in Benjamin Franklin: His Wit, Wisdom, and Women
by Seymour Stanton Block
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Act 1, Scene 1 [Setting: Young woman found dead in a parking lot, struck by
lightning.]
Cop : Looks like lightning hit her on the head. Guess it was the will of
God.
Detective: It's the work of God all right, and I'm gonna make sure he goes
up the river for this one.
Detective's narration: Ever since I started this beat, God had been
responsible for putting more people "six feet under" than any other thug in
the city. They had all been written off as natural causes, but I knew
better. And now he was getting sloppy. The lightning was his personal
trademark.
- Wes "Duke of Doubt" Anderson
http://www.skeptical-christian.net/articles/lightning.html
-Barry
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