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"JD" |
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08 Feb 2004 06:20:34 PM |
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Pilot pushes religion on flight |
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
AN American Airlines pilot asked Christians on his flight to identify
themselves and then suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith
with them, the airline said today.
The case had been handed over to the airline's personnel department
for an investigation, spokesman Tim Wagner said.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
said.
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
The pilot, whose name was not released, told the airline that he then
suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the
Christians about their faith.
The pilot also told passengers he would be available for discussion at
the end of the flight. Wagner said the pilot had just returned to work
from a week-long mission trip to Costa Rica.
Because of privacy issues, there would likely never be any
announcement about any punishment or reprimand the pilot faced, Wagner
said.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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08 Feb 2004 09:53:37 PM |
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"JD" <_antipodean_@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:6189a6f9.0402081620.4cb69d09@posting.google.com...
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
AN American Airlines pilot asked Christians on his flight to identify
themselves and then suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith
with them, the airline said today.
The case had been handed over to the airline's personnel department
for an investigation, spokesman Tim Wagner said.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
said.
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
The pilot, whose name was not released, told the airline that he then
suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the
Christians about their faith.
The pilot also told passengers he would be available for discussion at
the end of the flight. Wagner said the pilot had just returned to work
from a week-long mission trip to Costa Rica.
Because of privacy issues, there would likely never be any
announcement about any punishment or reprimand the pilot faced, Wagner
said.
Here's a more detailed article about this:
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Pilot's crazy rant
By MAKI BECKER
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
An American Airlines pilot terrified passengers aboard a
Los Angeles-to-New York flight when he asked Christians to identify
themselves and then called those who weren't Christian "crazy," witnesses
and an airline spokesman said yesterday.
Fearing the pilot might have some sinister plans for the
flight, many frantic passengers tried to reach their families on their cell
phones, witnesses told CBS News.
Shortly after takeoff on Friday, the pilot asked people
aboard Flight 34 to "raise their hand if they were Christian," according to
one passenger, Amanda Nelligan, of Los Angeles, who spoke to CBS.
He then told the passengers that "everyone who doesn't
have their hand raised is crazy," Nelligan said.
"He continued to say, 'Well, you have a choice: You can
make this trip worthwhile, or you can sit back, read a book and watch the
movie," Nelligan said.
Flight attendants contacted ground control about the
incident, assuring passengers that they didn't think they were in any real
danger.
Nelligan said she and other passengers thought the
behavior was "bizarre" and wondered whether his comments were a threat.
CBS identified the pilot, but confirmation was not
immediately available.
American Airline spokesman Tim Wagner said the incident
was being investigated, and added that the company has guidelines about
appropriate behavior.
The pilot had apparently just returned from a missionary
trip to Costa Rica, the spokesman said.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing
that may not be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the
job," Wagner said.
The 8 a.m. flight arrived at JFK Airport about 4:20 p.m.
without incident.
The Federal Aviation Administration is not investigating,
a spokeswoman said.
With News Wire Services
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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08 Feb 2004 10:11:32 PM |
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Scary but it reminds me of one of my favorite Playboy cartoons.
It shows a pilot, co-pilot and probably the engineer walking "nonchalantly"
down the iles of an airplane.
One is whistling, thier faces are vry red, they are sweating and they all
have parachutes on...
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| User: "Phillip Brown" |
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08 Feb 2004 11:29:41 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:11:32 +0000, Mike Painter wrote:
Scary but it reminds me of one of my favorite Playboy cartoons.
It shows a pilot, co-pilot and probably the engineer walking "nonchalantly"
down the iles of an airplane.
One is whistling, thier faces are vry red, they are sweating and they all
have parachutes on...
Or a favourite 'Far Side', which I sent to my commercial pilot brother on
his birthday
View from outside the cockpit of a jetliner. Caption (paraphase) - "Ladies
and gentlemen, this is the captain. We've just had a warning light go on,
and darn me if it isn't the big one"
OTOH, a story told to me by someone who used to fly to the US regularly,
the captain came on as they were about to land at one of the really busy
US airports (Dallas?) saying "Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to look
out your windows. You see all those planes out there?" *PAUSE* "Well,
don't worry, because we can see them too."
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phillip brown
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| User: "H.Dickmann" |
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10 Feb 2004 08:44:53 AM |
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"Phillip Brown" <phillipbrownau@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.09.05.29.24.179164@netscape.net...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:11:32 +0000, Mike Painter wrote:
Scary but it reminds me of one of my favorite Playboy cartoons.
It shows a pilot, co-pilot and probably the engineer walking
"nonchalantly"
down the iles of an airplane.
One is whistling, thier faces are vry red, they are sweating and they
all
have parachutes on...
Or a favourite 'Far Side', which I sent to my commercial pilot brother on
his birthday
View from outside the cockpit of a jetliner. Caption (paraphase) - "Ladies
and gentlemen, this is the captain. We've just had a warning light go on,
and darn me if it isn't the big one"
OTOH, a story told to me by someone who used to fly to the US regularly,
the captain came on as they were about to land at one of the really busy
US airports (Dallas?) saying "Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to look
out your windows. You see all those planes out there?" *PAUSE* "Well,
don't worry, because we can see them too."
--
phillip brown
The greatest trick is to quietly put your dinner in the sick bag. Then hold
the bag to your mouth and very noisily pretend to be very sick When everyone
is looking at you, take the spoon and eat your dinner out of the bag.
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| User: "John Leister" |
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09 Feb 2004 04:24:43 PM |
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An even bigger story has been going around for years and years
and is perpetuated in a lot of churches is the story of how it's
a rule in the USA that you are not allowed to have two pilots
on an aircraft who are christian......
Something to do with all that crap about the rapture...
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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10 Feb 2004 10:20:19 AM |
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And so upon Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:54:43 +1030 didst John Leister speak
thusly:
An even bigger story has been going around for years and years
and is perpetuated in a lot of churches is the story of how it's
a rule in the USA that you are not allowed to have two pilots
on an aircraft who are christian......
Something to do with all that crap about the rapture...
<snicker>
"For your safety, this airline includes an atheist in the cockpit of each
and every flight!"
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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10 Feb 2004 11:09:41 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.02.10.16.20.19.67023@hoo.com-amikchi:
And so upon Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:54:43 +1030 didst John Leister speak
thusly:
An even bigger story has been going around for years and years
and is perpetuated in a lot of churches is the story of how it's
a rule in the USA that you are not allowed to have two pilots
on an aircraft who are christian......
Something to do with all that crap about the rapture...
<snicker>
"For your safety, this airline includes an atheist in the cockpit of each
and every flight!"
*****. I soooo wish I'd gone to flight school.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Dissent is not a right.
It is a RESPONSIBILITY.
--me.
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| User: "R. F. Burns" |
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10 Feb 2004 05:05:30 AM |
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On 2004-02-09, John Leister <sizzlesizzleslotslot@senet.com.au> wrote:
An even bigger story has been going around for years and years
and is perpetuated in a lot of churches is the story of how it's
a rule in the USA that you are not allowed to have two pilots
on an aircraft who are christian......
That's gotta be crap. It would create very significant staffing issues,
for a start.
Something to do with all that crap about the rapture...
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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10 Feb 2004 08:02:58 PM |
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"JD" <_antipodean_@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:6189a6f9.0402081620.4cb69d09@posting.google.com...
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
*YES*
I have it.
Raise your hand and play fundi Christian - start quoting Deuteronomy
21:18-21, Psalms 137:9, Exodus 20 etc until somebody manages to stop you.
You've have half the phane converted in minutes (although maybe not the way
the pilot wanted).
Alun Harford
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| User: "John Leister" |
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11 Feb 2004 06:06:24 AM |
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Alun Harford wrote:
"JD" <_antipodean_@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:6189a6f9.0402081620.4cb69d09@posting.google.com...
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
*YES*
I have it.
Raise your hand and play fundi Christian - start quoting Deuteronomy
21:18-21, Psalms 137:9, Exodus 20 etc until somebody manages to stop you.
You've have half the phane converted in minutes (although maybe not the way
the pilot wanted).
Alun Harford
ROFL
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| User: "Maverick" |
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09 Feb 2004 12:44:58 AM |
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(JD) wrote in news:6189a6f9.0402081620.4cb69d09
@posting.google.com:
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
AN American Airlines pilot asked Christians on his flight to identify
themselves and then suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith
with them, the airline said today.
The case had been handed over to the airline's personnel department
for an investigation, spokesman Tim Wagner said.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
said.
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
The pilot, whose name was not released, told the airline that he then
suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the
Christians about their faith.
The pilot also told passengers he would be available for discussion at
the end of the flight. Wagner said the pilot had just returned to work
from a week-long mission trip to Costa Rica.
Because of privacy issues, there would likely never be any
announcement about any punishment or reprimand the pilot faced, Wagner
said.
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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09 Feb 2004 11:03:17 AM |
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"Maverick" <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Hmm...
I think it's time to get out a mobile phone and send a mayday to air traffic
control at that point - "the pilot's gone insane"
Alun Harford
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| User: "Maverick" |
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10 Feb 2004 03:10:38 PM |
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"Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:c08egg$qic$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk:
"Maverick" <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and
hear the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they
wanted to hear, I suppose.
Hmm...
I think it's time to get out a mobile phone and send a mayday to air
traffic control at that point - "the pilot's gone insane"
Indeed, and I thought fundamentalists on the ground was scary enough.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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10 Feb 2004 10:19:15 AM |
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And so upon Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:03:17 +0000 didst Alun Harford speak
thusly:
"Maverick" <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Hmm...
I think it's time to get out a mobile phone and send a mayday to air traffic
control at that point - "the pilot's gone insane"
People were making some very nervous calls on their phones. And the air
phones of the plane itself. And the crew contacted ground control.
The man was well on his way to causing a panic.
He did come on later to apologize to the flight crew. Apparently they were
chewing on him for freaking out the passengers and leaving the crew to
deal with the panic.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "I Am Your Clayton, Luke!" |
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09 Feb 2004 06:14:56 PM |
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"Maverick" <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100...
_antipodean_@bigpond.com (JD) wrote in news:6189a6f9.0402081620.4cb69d09
@posting.google.com:
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
AN American Airlines pilot asked Christians on his flight to identify
themselves and then suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith
with them, the airline said today.
The case had been handed over to the airline's personnel department
for an investigation, spokesman Tim Wagner said.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
said.
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
The pilot, whose name was not released, told the airline that he then
suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the
Christians about their faith.
The pilot also told passengers he would be available for discussion at
the end of the flight. Wagner said the pilot had just returned to work
from a week-long mission trip to Costa Rica.
Because of privacy issues, there would likely never be any
announcement about any punishment or reprimand the pilot faced, Wagner
said.
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Oh come on...what possible harm could a religious fanatic at the controls of
an aeroplane do?
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| User: "Granny" |
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10 Feb 2004 08:25:27 PM |
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"I Am Your Clayton, Luke!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKnotmyemail.com> wrote in message news:<402821cc$0$18303$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Oh come on...what possible harm could a religious fanatic at the controls of
an aeroplane do?
Religious fanatics, Twinky, slit the throats of flight attendants,
kill the plane's pilots and run those fucking jet airliners into
skyscrapers killing thousands of innocent people. That's what REAL
religious fanatics do, sonny boy. With any luck one of these days
you'll find yourself on a flight just like that, and then you can
reflect whether you might not been a whole lot better off with this
Christian pilot or a dozen or so Muslims ready to kick your teeth down
your throat before your plane went KABLAAAM! Your transparent and
profound hatred for all things Christian is duly noted.
"If the 9/11 terrorists had been Christians, the shoelace strangler a
Christian, the gun-toting Swedish Muslim a Christian, the Los Angeles
airport killer a Christian and scores of suicide bombers Christians, I
assure you we would not be pussyfooting around whether maybe there was
something wrong with Christianity." Ann COulter
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| User: "Maverick" |
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11 Feb 2004 12:50:18 AM |
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(Granny) wrote in
news:2dcc6dff.0402101825.5ccee467@posting.google.com:
"I Am Your Clayton, Luke!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKnotmyemail.com> wrote in
message news:<402821cc$0$18303$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and
hear the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what
they wanted to hear, I suppose.
Oh come on...what possible harm could a religious fanatic at the
controls of an aeroplane do?
Religious fanatics, Twinky, slit the throats of flight attendants,
kill the plane's pilots and run those fucking jet airliners into
skyscrapers killing thousands of innocent people. That's what REAL
religious fanatics do, sonny boy. With any luck one of these days
you'll find yourself on a flight just like that, and then you can
reflect whether you might not been a whole lot better off with this
Christian pilot or a dozen or so Muslims ready to kick your teeth down
your throat before your plane went KABLAAAM! Your transparent and
profound hatred for all things Christian is duly noted.
"If the 9/11 terrorists had been Christians, the shoelace strangler a
Christian, the gun-toting Swedish Muslim a Christian, the Los Angeles
airport killer a Christian and scores of suicide bombers Christians, I
assure you we would not be pussyfooting around whether maybe there was
something wrong with Christianity." Ann COulter
Yes, the other things, such as: burning down libraries, killing
philosophers, pagans and burn witches, or the crusades, or the programming
of the people, the opression of the people, and the practice to accuse
scientists of discovering the truth and then punish them, all these things
are apparently not necessary to realise something might be wrong. And to
that, add the word-by-word belief of old myths and fables and the strange
belief that one day the righteous ones will start disappearing. And that's
just one of the religions.
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| User: "Lawrence Seib" |
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11 Feb 2004 10:31:11 AM |
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(Granny) wrote in message news:<2dcc6dff.0402101825.5ccee467@posting.google.com>...
"I Am Your Clayton, Luke!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKnotmyemail.com> wrote in message news:<402821cc$0$18303$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Oh come on...what possible harm could a religious fanatic at the controls of
an aeroplane do?
Religious fanatics, Twinky, slit the throats of flight attendants,
kill the plane's pilots and run those fucking jet airliners into
skyscrapers killing thousands of innocent people. That's what REAL
religious fanatics do, sonny boy. With any luck one of these days
you'll find yourself on a flight just like that, and then you can
reflect whether you might not been a whole lot better off with this
Christian pilot or a dozen or so Muslims ready to kick your teeth down
your throat before your plane went KABLAAAM! Your transparent and
profound hatred for all things Christian is duly noted.
"If the 9/11 terrorists had been Christians, the shoelace strangler a
Christian, the gun-toting Swedish Muslim a Christian, the Los Angeles
airport killer a Christian and scores of suicide bombers Christians, I
assure you we would not be pussyfooting around whether maybe there was
something wrong with Christianity." Ann COulter
After hiltler killed all the Jews, no one
questioned whether maybe there was
something wrong with Christianity
just beacuse Hitler was a Christian.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Granny.
You to Ann.
Larry
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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11 Feb 2004 04:56:15 PM |
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And so upon Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:25:27 -0800 didst Granny speak thusly:
"I Am Your Clayton, Luke!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKnotmyemail.com> wrote in message news:<402821cc$0$18303$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Oh come on...what possible harm could a religious fanatic at the controls of
an aeroplane do?
Religious fanatics, Twinky, slit the throats of flight attendants,
kill the plane's pilots and run those fucking jet airliners into
skyscrapers killing thousands of innocent people. That's what REAL
religious fanatics do, sonny boy. With any luck one of these days
you'll find yourself on a flight just like that, and then you can
reflect whether you might not been a whole lot better off with this
Christian pilot or a dozen or so Muslims ready to kick your teeth down
your throat before your plane went KABLAAAM! Your transparent and
profound hatred for all things Christian is duly noted.
"If the 9/11 terrorists had been Christians, the shoelace strangler a
Christian, the gun-toting Swedish Muslim a Christian, the Los Angeles
airport killer a Christian and scores of suicide bombers Christians, I
assure you we would not be pussyfooting around whether maybe there was
something wrong with Christianity." Ann COulter
So who's "pussyfooting around?" Christianity *is defective. Take a good
look at its history.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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10 Feb 2004 07:40:45 AM |
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In article <402821cc$0$18303$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, I Am Your Clayton,
Luke! says...
"Maverick" <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100...
_antipodean_@bigpond.com (JD) wrote in news:6189a6f9.0402081620.4cb69d09
@posting.google.com:
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
AN American Airlines pilot asked Christians on his flight to identify
themselves and then suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith
with them, the airline said today.
The case had been handed over to the airline's personnel department
for an investigation, spokesman Tim Wagner said.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
said.
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
The pilot, whose name was not released, told the airline that he then
suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the
Christians about their faith.
The pilot also told passengers he would be available for discussion at
the end of the flight. Wagner said the pilot had just returned to work
from a week-long mission trip to Costa Rica.
Because of privacy issues, there would likely never be any
announcement about any punishment or reprimand the pilot faced, Wagner
said.
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Oh come on...what possible harm could a religious fanatic at the controls of
an aeroplane do?
Har de har har (ack!)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "onegod" |
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09 Feb 2004 05:10:21 PM |
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And can you imaging fear of world people with bush 8-)
"Maverick" <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100...
_antipodean_@bigpond.com (JD) wrote in news:6189a6f9.0402081620.4cb69d09
@posting.google.com:
http://tinyurl.com/2x3uh
AN American Airlines pilot asked Christians on his flight to identify
themselves and then suggested the non-Christians discuss the faith
with them, the airline said today.
The case had been handed over to the airline's personnel department
for an investigation, spokesman Tim Wagner said.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
said.
American's Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to New York's John F.
Kennedy Airport on Friday when the pilot asked Christians on board to
raise their hands, Wagner said.
The pilot, whose name was not released, told the airline that he then
suggested the other passengers use the flight time to talk to the
Christians about their faith.
The pilot also told passengers he would be available for discussion at
the end of the flight. Wagner said the pilot had just returned to work
from a week-long mission trip to Costa Rica.
Because of privacy issues, there would likely never be any
announcement about any punishment or reprimand the pilot faced, Wagner
said.
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
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| User: "JD" |
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09 Feb 2004 09:14:47 PM |
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Maverick <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100>...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Certainly raise my blood pressure.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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10 Feb 2004 10:17:31 AM |
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And so upon Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:14:47 -0800 didst JD speak thusly:
Maverick <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100>...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Certainly raise my blood pressure.
Apparently did so with a lot of other passengers. People started making
calls to their relatives, worried they weren't going to see them again.
(Interestingly, nobody raised their hands as the pilot asked the
christians to do)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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10 Feb 2004 10:53:39 AM |
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In article <pan.2004.02.10.16.17.31.412454@hoo.com-amikchi>, Mark K. Bilbo
says...
And so upon Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:14:47 -0800 didst JD speak thusly:
Maverick <insensitive_clod@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns948A4E8201897insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100>...
How comforting to sit in an aeroplane without a way to get out, and hear
the pilot declare he's a religious nutcase. That's not what they wanted to
hear, I suppose.
Certainly raise my blood pressure.
Apparently did so with a lot of other passengers. People started making
calls to their relatives, worried they weren't going to see them again.
(Interestingly, nobody raised their hands as the pilot asked the
christians to do)
I'm sure their main thought was "We're all gonna die!!!"
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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09 Feb 2004 05:17:07 PM |
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Made the BBC finally... though I liked the CNN report which noted:
"Austin said no passengers raised their hands".
Christian question alarms flight
An American Airlines pilot terrified passengers on his flight when he
asked Christians to identify themselves and went on to call
non-Christians "crazy".
Some passengers on the flight from Los Angeles to New York were so
worried they tried to call relatives on their mobile phones.
The pilot, whose name was not released, asked Christians on Friday's
flight to raise their hands.
He then suggested non-Christians talk to the Christians about their
faith.
He went on to say that "everyone who doesn't have their hand raised is
crazy", passenger Amanda Nelligan told CBS news.
"He continued to say, 'Well, you have a choice: you can make this trip
worthwhile, or you can sit back, read a book and watch the movie',"
she said.
The pilot also told passengers he would be available for discussion at
the end of the flight.
'Bizarre'
Ms Nelligan said passengers had thought the pilot's behaviour was
"bizarre" and wondered whether his comments were a threat.
Flight attendants notified ground control.
American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner said the incident was being
investigated.
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
added.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/3472265.stm
Published: 2004/02/09 12:55:20 GMT
© BBC MMIV
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| User: "JD" |
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10 Feb 2004 04:38:36 AM |
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In news:545g20pceuq8lli9n44uh575kc5a8djqhp@4ax.com,
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> presented us with:
"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not
be appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," he
added.
May not be appropriate Imagine the uproar if it was a passenger, one with a
towel on his head!
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| User: "Wayne Aiken" |
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10 Feb 2004 01:05:36 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
: The pilot, whose name was not released, asked Christians on Friday's
: flight to raise their hands.
I want that pilot's name. I'll never set a foot aboard any plane on
which he's part of the flight crew.
If American doesn't cough it up, I'll never fly on American again.
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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10 Feb 2004 03:00:38 PM |
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"Wayne Aiken" <aiken@uni01du.unity.ncsu.edu> wrote in message
news:c0ba1v$2o3$1@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
: The pilot, whose name was not released, asked Christians on Friday's
: flight to raise their hands.
I want that pilot's name. I'll never set a foot aboard any plane on
which he's part of the flight crew.
If American doesn't cough it up, I'll never fly on American again.
Interesting that Pat Robertson's ACLJ isn't saying a word about protecting
this pilot's right to free speech!
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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10 Feb 2004 03:54:26 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:05:36 +0000 (UTC), a
stranger called by some Wayne Aiken <aiken@uni01du.unity.ncsu.edu>
came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
: The pilot, whose name was not released, asked Christians on Friday's
: flight to raise their hands.
I want that pilot's name. I'll never set a foot aboard any plane on
which he's part of the flight crew.
If American doesn't cough it up, I'll never fly on American again.
I've already called American to tell them that unless they confirm,
publically, that this pilot is no longer flying for them, my travel
dollars will go elsewhere. Considering that their aircfraft featured
promenantly on 9/11, you'd think they'd sack this guy the moment he
got to the gate.
(On a side note, does anybody else watch "Airline" on A&E? I've
become addicted.)
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Quentin Burward" |
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| Title: Re: Pilot pushes religion on flight |
10 Feb 2004 06:51:42 PM |
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Oh, well---they say that God is a parachute.
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Quentin Burward
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