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"Uncle Buck" |
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11 Aug 2005 11:57:50 PM |
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Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"I absolutely detest it when people quote
themselves." - Me
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
12 Aug 2005 12:53:39 AM |
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In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
I have a doctorate in chemistry, NYU, 1966.
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry and have
worked on various aspects of DNA chemistry for over 35 years. Recently I
got into peptides.
Most of this work was done in the biotech industry.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
12 Aug 2005 04:31:35 AM |
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In article <jhachm-C299C5.22533911082005@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry and have
worked on various aspects of DNA chemistry for over 35 years. Recently I
got into peptides.
I have one word for you... PLASTIC! {;-)
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
13 Aug 2005 01:37:31 AM |
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In article <nemo0037-127DFB.05305112082005@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachm-C299C5.22533911082005@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry and have
worked on various aspects of DNA chemistry for over 35 years. Recently I
got into peptides.
I have one word for you... PLASTIC! {;-)
Heh! Yeah. Sometimes I think that if I had gone for polymer or petroleum
chemistry I'd e a lot richer today. Still by concentrating on the
biochemical aspects of chemistry I got to do some cutting edge science
and to meet some really interesting people.
I still think that "The Graduate" is a cool movie.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
12 Aug 2005 12:03:48 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:53:39 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
I have a doctorate in chemistry, NYU, 1966.
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry
Do you know Fausto Ramirez?
--
/Apostate
alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
e-mail to lower-case only
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
13 Aug 2005 01:28:55 AM |
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In article <cilpf1hipghsjjlj9eja65ikb17dcqtmu9@4ax.com>,
Apostate <apostate.invalid.still@yeehaw.org> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:53:39 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
I have a doctorate in chemistry, NYU, 1966.
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry
Do you know Fausto Ramirez?
What year was he there? I don't recall the name.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Apostate" |
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13 Aug 2005 09:12:16 AM |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:28:55 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <cilpf1hipghsjjlj9eja65ikb17dcqtmu9@4ax.com>,
Apostate <apostate.invalid.still@yeehaw.org> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:53:39 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
I have a doctorate in chemistry, NYU, 1966.
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry
Do you know Fausto Ramirez?
What year was he there? I don't recall the name.
He may never have been there.
He was interested in that area of chemistry, and iinm is one of your age cohort (not that
there's anything *wrong* with that). I thought you might coincidentally know him as a
peer. He taught me organic chem (the 2nd semester course, 2nd time I sat for it. :-/ )
--
/Apostate
alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
e-mail to lower-case only
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
14 Aug 2005 12:41:46 AM |
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In article <4ovrf11p7mdfdnn1qtctjo3j1gcueqhd4j@4ax.com>,
Apostate <apostate.invalid.still@yeehaw.org> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:28:55 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <cilpf1hipghsjjlj9eja65ikb17dcqtmu9@4ax.com>,
Apostate <apostate.invalid.still@yeehaw.org> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:53:39 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
I have a doctorate in chemistry, NYU, 1966.
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry
Do you know Fausto Ramirez?
What year was he there? I don't recall the name.
He may never have been there.
He was interested in that area of chemistry, and iinm is one of your age
cohort (not that
there's anything *wrong* with that). I thought you might coincidentally
know him as a
peer. He taught me organic chem (the 2nd semester course, 2nd time I sat
for it. :-/ )
I'm afraid that I don't recall meeting him. I did a quick online check
and he did do a lot of phosphorous chemistry. I may have read several of
his papers, but its been a while.
I assume that you are talking about the Fausto Ramirez at Stony Brook?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
14 Aug 2005 10:48:50 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:41:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <4ovrf11p7mdfdnn1qtctjo3j1gcueqhd4j@4ax.com>,
Apostate <apostate.invalid.still@yeehaw.org> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:28:55 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <cilpf1hipghsjjlj9eja65ikb17dcqtmu9@4ax.com>,
Apostate <apostate.invalid.still@yeehaw.org> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:53:39 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
I have a doctorate in chemistry, NYU, 1966.
I did my doctoral thesis research on nucleoside chemistry
Do you know Fausto Ramirez?
What year was he there? I don't recall the name.
He may never have been there.
He was interested in that area of chemistry, and iinm is one of your age
cohort (not that
there's anything *wrong* with that). I thought you might coincidentally
know him as a
peer. He taught me organic chem (the 2nd semester course, 2nd time I sat
for it. :-/ )
I'm afraid that I don't recall meeting him. I did a quick online check
and he did do a lot of phosphorous chemistry. I may have read several of
his papers, but its been a while.
I assume that you are talking about the Fausto Ramirez at Stony Brook?
Correctamundo.
--
/Apostate
alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
e-mail to lower-case only
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
12 Aug 2005 04:30:32 AM |
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In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from?
You're a little early in your request. My son lurks here on occasion,
but he's just starting his work studying for his Ph.D. in chemistry. Ask
again in a few years. {;-)
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
13 Aug 2005 01:42:07 AM |
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In article <nemo0037-5345F8.05294812082005@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>,
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from?
You're a little early in your request. My son lurks here on occasion,
but he's just starting his work studying for his Ph.D. in chemistry. Ask
again in a few years. {;-)
Well, if he's lurking today - Good Luck!
Good for him.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Gregory A Greenman" |
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12 Aug 2005 04:47:17 AM |
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In article <7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com>, Uncle
Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> declared...
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
I have an accounting degree from The University of Texas at
Austin. According to Uncle Davey, that makes me more scientific
than any scientist.
--
Greg
----
greg -at- spencersoft -dot- com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
12 Aug 2005 12:57:32 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:57:50 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
Well, I have a Bachelor of Science, if that's what you mean.
From the Mathematical Science Faculty of the University of Adelaide in
sleepy South Australia.
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| User: "Woden" |
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11 Aug 2005 09:05:01 PM |
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
What's a "credentialed" scientist?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
12 Aug 2005 12:06:55 AM |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:05:01 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
What's a "credentialed" scientist?
Sorry, I assumed that was the right word. Someone who really _is_ a
scientist, not someone who just thinks they are - like those blokes at
the ICR, for instance. Someone with an actual degree in a scientific
field from an accredited source. I work in health insurance, and all
of our professionals as "credentialled", so I guess it was just the
first word to come naturally to mind. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"I absolutely detest it when people quote
themselves." - Me
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| User: "Adam H." |
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11 Aug 2005 09:12:39 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:06:55 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:05:01 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
What's a "credentialed" scientist?
Sorry, I assumed that was the right word. Someone who really _is_ a
scientist, not someone who just thinks they are - like those blokes at
the ICR, for instance. Someone with an actual degree in a scientific
field from an accredited source. I work in health insurance, and all
of our professionals as "credentialled", so I guess it was just the
first word to come naturally to mind. :-)
Simple enough, I guess. I have a degree in Honours Physics from the
University of Waterloo. I read more than I post, though.
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| User: "Ed. Stoebenau" |
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18 Aug 2005 09:20:39 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:06:55 -0700, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:05:01 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
Well, I have a BS in chemistry (Virginia Tech 1998) and also an
MS (U Chicago 2000) and am presently a grad student finishing up
my PhD in chemistry here at Chicago. I have three papers out,
two in the _Journal of the American Chemical Society_ and one in
_Organometallics_ and have also presented a talk and a poster at
national ACS conventions.
--
Ed. Stoebenau
a #143
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
11 Aug 2005 10:55:27 PM |
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:06:55 -0700, Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:05:01 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
What's a "credentialed" scientist?
Sorry, I assumed that was the right word. Someone who really _is_ a
scientist, not someone who just thinks they are - like those blokes at
the ICR, for instance. Someone with an actual degree in a scientific
field from an accredited source. I work in health insurance, and all
of our professionals as "credentialled", so I guess it was just the
first word to come naturally to mind. :-)
You've set the bar a bit low, if "an actual degree in a scientific field" is all you want.
I wouldn't care for anything less than a graduate degree to count in that tally.
(If it did, you'd have to count *me*, and that's just scary.)
For preference, post-doctorate, one should go to work in science for a living.
And publish in peer-reviewed journals, of course.
--
/Apostate
alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
e-mail to lower-case only
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
11 Aug 2005 09:28:21 PM |
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:3hbof119uqb3oi2trn1b05v4hhree41dnn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:05:01 GMT, Woden <woden@charter.net> wrote:
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
What's a "credentialed" scientist?
Sorry, I assumed that was the right word. Someone who really _is_ a
scientist, not someone who just thinks they are - like those blokes at
the ICR, for instance. Someone with an actual degree in a scientific
field from an accredited source. I work in health insurance, and all
of our professionals as "credentialled", so I guess it was just the
first word to come naturally to mind. :-)
I know of no body that "credentials" scientists. The term "scientist" is
a bit too vague to really be meaningful in this context. Some of those
"blokes" (which is much too nice a term) at ICR have degrees in science,
but whether that actually makes them "scientists" is arguable.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
11 Aug 2005 09:45:48 PM |
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Woden wrote:
I know of no body that "credentials" scientists. The term "scientist" is
a bit too vague to really be meaningful in this context. Some of those
"blokes" (which is much too nice a term) at ICR have degrees in science,
but whether that actually makes them "scientists" is arguable.
likewise there are probably some other blokes who have a much better
understanding of what science is about, and what's up in some
particular field, than other blokes with graduate degrees in said
fields.
I'm an engineer, a class of people which is well populated with those
who don't understand science.
Perhaps looking for folks who've published papers in peer reviewed
journals would be a good approximation of "credentialled"?
Jim
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
11 Aug 2005 11:15:48 PM |
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
I used to work for the DoD and NOSC (Naval Ocean Systems Center) in San
Diego. Helped build things that go fast, hit what they're aimed at, and
go BOOM. Elegant solutions to the problem, now all obsolete, replaced by
GPS.
My wife doesn't post here, but she spent 15 years with Merck and with
Monsanto, ending her career with them as a "Senior Research Chemist"
She's an atheist also.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts,
foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation
that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open
market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
-- John F. Kennedy
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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11 Aug 2005 11:17:48 PM |
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Enkidu the Atheist <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in
news:Xns96AFD85163A48255229@130.133.1.4:
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:7uaof19k1ov7ud6hs29sn1dedvbb2n1617@4ax.com:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
I used to work for the DoD and NOSC (Naval Ocean Systems Center) in
San Diego. Helped build things that go fast, hit what they're aimed
at, and go BOOM. Elegant solutions to the problem, now all obsolete,
replaced by GPS.
Oh, yeah, my degrees are in Mathematics and Physics from San Diego State
University.
My wife doesn't post here, but she spent 15 years with Merck and with
Monsanto, ending her career with them as a "Senior Research Chemist"
She's an atheist also.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
The moral and religious teachings of no bible reach a higher altitude
than the intelligence and mental development of the age and country which
produced it.
-- Kersey Graves
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| User: "Jim Burns" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
13 Aug 2005 07:48:46 AM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to
chime in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just
say who you are and what your credentials are and, if it's not
too much to ask, where you're credentialled from? I'm not any
kind of credentialled scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot
answer this question myself. But I'm just really, really curious
to know "who's here", so to speak. :-)
I suppose I have the barest hint of credentials. It's very, very
rare that they would apply to anything I post, though.
I have a BS in Physics from Ohio State, with minors in Math and
Computer Science. When I pontificate on Life, the Universe and
Everything, that comes out of my personal reading, just a long
term interest in philosophical questions -- no credentials at all.
I work at Ohio State in the Physics Department, but I would
describe what I am as a technician. Most of what I do right now
is building electronics that will go into ATLAS, one of the next
generation high energy physics experiments. We hope to find the
Higgs boson. More broadly, I work in the Electronics Shop
(which we call ELLI), and my job is to support the Physics
Department in any way I can, which is usually at least vaguely
electronic in nature.
I do have my name on one published paper, a cast-of-thousands
production describing a power supply for CLEO3, an earlier
project. I analyzed a control board and showed that what we were
getting was actually what we should be getting, and that was
all right.
Jim Burns, Scientist
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
14 Aug 2005 11:21:16 AM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"I absolutely detest it when people quote
themselves." - Me
I have a bachelor's in biology if that counts for anything.
Purdue University - 1999
I work as a high school science teacher, so I don't generally think of
myself as a scientist.
-LisaKay
aa #2054
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
14 Aug 2005 02:29:02 PM |
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On 14 Aug 2005 09:21:16 -0700, "LisaKay" <LisaKay2054@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I have a bachelor's in biology if that counts for anything.
Purdue University - 1999
I work as a high school science teacher, so I don't generally think of
myself as a scientist.
Ah, not a scientist, perhaps, but a wizard most surely. ;-) Thanks!
:-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"I absolutely detest it when people quote
themselves." - Me
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| User: "Gail Futoran" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
14 Aug 2005 03:12:36 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
Some would argue the social and behavioral
sciences aren't actually "science", but FWIW
I have a PhD in experimental social psychology,
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 1987.
I am no longer actively involved in my profession,
having retired to nurture roses and cats.
Gail
Warrior Gardener
aa#2247 ["Shiny..."]
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
16 Aug 2005 11:52:37 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 09:21:16 -0700, "LisaKay" <LisaKay2054@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I have a bachelor's in biology if that counts for anything.
Purdue University - 1999
I work as a high school science teacher, so I don't generally think of
myself as a scientist.
Ah, not a scientist, perhaps, but a wizard most surely. ;-) Thanks!
I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch (they dressed me up like this)!
:-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"I absolutely detest it when people quote
themselves." - Me
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
17 Aug 2005 07:06:59 AM |
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LisaKay wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 09:21:16 -0700, "LisaKay" <LisaKay2054@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I have a bachelor's in biology if that counts for anything.
Purdue University - 1999
I work as a high school science teacher, so I don't generally think of
myself as a scientist.
Ah, not a scientist, perhaps, but a wizard most surely. ;-) Thanks!
I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch (they dressed me up like this)!
Well, I did do that hat... and the clothes. But she's got a wart!
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
14 Aug 2005 02:29:16 PM |
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On 14 Aug 2005 09:21:16 -0700, "LisaKay" <LisaKay2054@hotmail.com> wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"I absolutely detest it when people quote
themselves." - Me
I have a bachelor's in biology if that counts for anything.
Purdue University - 1999
I work as a high school science teacher, so I don't generally think of
myself as a scientist.
Putting the latter point aside, does (Indiana?) certify science teachers for high schools
on the strength of a B.S. degree, or did you need graduate course work in education to
top off your creds?
-LisaKay
aa #2054
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/Apostate
alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
e-mail to lower-case only
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: Credentialed scientists - headcount |
16 Aug 2005 11:51:46 PM |
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Apostate wrote:
On 14 Aug 2005 09:21:16 -0700, "LisaKay" <LisaKay2054@hotmail.com> wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:
I'm curious as to how many credentialled scientists - athiest or
non-atheist - regularly read and/or post to alt.atheism (I'm also
interested in lurkers, so you need not be a regular poster to chime
in). Of those who are willing to respond, would you just say who you
are and what your credentials are and, if it's not too much to ask,
where you're credentialled from? I'm not any kind of credentialled
scientist (yet, I can hope), and so cannot answer this question
myself. But I'm just really, really curious to know "who's here", so
to speak. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"I absolutely detest it when people quote
themselves." - Me
I have a bachelor's in biology if that counts for anything.
Purdue University - 1999
I work as a high school science teacher, so I don't generally think of
myself as a scientist.
Putting the latter point aside, does (Indiana?) certify science teachers for high schools
on the strength of a B.S. degree, or did you need graduate course work in education to
top off your creds?
-LisaKay
aa #2054
--
/Apostate
alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
e-mail to lower-case only
To teach high school science in Indiana you need a BS or BA in a
science field and a certain number of courses in a secondary field (ie.
biology and chemistry or physics and chemistry) in which you would be
licensed. Then you must take 1-2 years of coursework in education and,
of course do a semester student teaching (for which you don't get paid,
pay tuition, are not allowed to work after school, and work your butt
off). Some people use the education coursework toward a masters
degree, I just put the courses toward my humanities credits needed for
my bachelors.
If you noticed that I didn't respond as quickly as usual...yesterday
was the first day back for teachers. We get kids tomorrow. :-)
-LisaKay
aa #2054
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