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"The Big Creep" |
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07 Apr 2004 11:41:20 AM |
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Ping: editor of Evil Bible |
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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07 Apr 2004 11:43:21 PM |
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"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
No it doesn't.
Original word: misevw [from a primary misos (hatred)]
Transliterated Word: Miseo
Phonetic Spelling mis-eh'-o Verb
Definition
1.. to hate, pursue with hatred, detest
2.. to be hated, detested
http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=3404&version=kjv
http://www.biblestudytools.net/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?new=1&word=Luke+14%3A26+§ion=0&version=str&language=en
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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08 Apr 2004 07:11:50 PM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<MOqdnTiRTtXjRendRVn-uQ@adelphia.com>...
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com...
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible scholars, say that
Luke 14:26 means that we are to love our family less than Jesus.
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear in chatrooms.
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| User: "Aubz" |
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| Title: Re: editor of Evil Bible |
09 Apr 2004 02:23:08 PM |
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The Big Creep scrivened
news:d16ebafc.0404081611.308ccc80@posting.google.com in
alt.recovery.religion:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:<MOqdnTiRTtXjRendRVn-uQ@adelphia.com>...
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com...
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus.
It does not mean to actually despise your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible scholars, say that
Luke 14:26 means that we are to love our family less than Jesus.
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear in chatrooms.
Oh,I get it.You're taking the smeg.Good one,then.
--
"Archaeologists working near Mt Sinai have discovered what is believed to
be a missing page from the Bible.If verified by radiocarbon dating,the page
is believed to belong at the beginning of the Bible,and is reported to read
'To my darling Candy.This book is a work of fiction,and any resemblance to
any persons,living or dead,is purely coincidental'.The page has been
universally condemned by church leaders".
Groovy Funky Channel 27 News,Red Dwarf series 2,Better than life.
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| User: "David V." |
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08 Apr 2004 09:06:06 PM |
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The Big Creep wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family
less than Jesus. It does not mean to actually despise
your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible
scholars, say that Luke 14:26 means that we are to love
our family less than Jesus.
Of course they say that. That's what they want mindless
sheep like you to believe.
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear in
chatrooms.
ROTFLMFAO! That's a good one; chat rooms as a source of the
truth.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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| Title: Re: editor of Evil Bible |
09 Apr 2004 05:48:51 AM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<V8Kdna8FyP-SmOvdRVn-sQ@sti.net>...
The Big Creep wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family
less than Jesus. It does not mean to actually despise
your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible
scholars, say that Luke 14:26 means that we are to love
our family less than Jesus.
Of course they say that. That's what they want mindless
sheep like you to believe.
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear in
chatrooms.
ROTFLMFAO! That's a good one; chat rooms as a source of the
truth.
Well, that is where I meet all sorts of interesting people.
Some of them say that they are descendants of divine beings.
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| User: "David V." |
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09 Apr 2004 10:18:42 AM |
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The Big Creep wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
The Big Creep wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com>
wrote
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family
less than Jesus. It does not mean to actually
despise your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible
scholars, say that Luke 14:26 means that we are to
love our family less than Jesus.
Of course they say that. That's what they want mindless
sheep like you to believe.>>
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear
in chatrooms.
ROTFLMFAO! That's a good one; chat rooms as a source of
the truth.
Well, that is where I meet all sorts of interesting
people.
Interesting is not always the truth.
Some of them say that they are descendants of divine
beings.
I have a bridge for sale. Oh, I get it; you must be playing
with me because no one can be that stupid.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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09 Apr 2004 04:49:12 PM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<DbqdnXNWN4NOI-vd4p2dnA@sti.net>...
Some of them say that they are descendants of divine
beings.
I have a bridge for sale. Oh, I get it; you must be playing
with me because no one can be that stupid.
I did not say I believe them.
How do you view those types of people? And the people that believe them?
This is for research.
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| User: "David V." |
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09 Apr 2004 05:04:56 PM |
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The Big Creep wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Some of them say that they are descendants of divine
beings.
I have a bridge for sale. Oh, I get it; you must be
playing with me because no one can be that stupid.
I did not say I believe them.
Then why bother even mentioning them.
How do you view those types of people? And the people
that believe them?
As nut cases like you.
This is for research.
I doubt it.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Marc Satterwhite" |
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| Title: Re: editor of Evil Bible |
13 Apr 2004 03:18:07 PM |
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The Big Creep wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<MOqdnTiRTtXjRendRVn-uQ@adelphia.com>...
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com...
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible scholars, say that
Luke 14:26 means that we are to love our family less than Jesus.
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear in chatrooms.
I'm not 100% convinced, but I begin to think this guy's a put-on.
Surely no one is REALLY that gullible and sheep-like?
Best, Marc
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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13 Apr 2004 03:05:58 PM |
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In article <407C4701.A3BE1BC7@athena.louisville.edu>, mtsatt01
@athena.louisville.edu says...
The Big Creep wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<MOqdnTiRTtXjRendRVn-uQ@adelphia.com>...
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com...
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible scholars, say that
Luke 14:26 means that we are to love our family less than Jesus.
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear in chatrooms.
I'm not 100% convinced, but I begin to think this guy's a put-on.
Surely no one is REALLY that gullible and sheep-like?
Ummm . . . think about that last sentence for a moment. Yes, there are
many people that gullible and sheep-like. How else can you explain
*anyone* still supporting shrub?
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Enkidu
AA# 2165
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we
go to church we're just making him madder and madder."
--Homer Simpson
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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14 Apr 2004 01:43:46 PM |
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Marc Satterwhite <mtsatt01@athena.louisville.edu> wrote in message news:<407C4701.A3BE1BC7@athena.louisville.edu>...
The Big Creep wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<MOqdnTiRTtXjRendRVn-uQ@adelphia.com>...
"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com...
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
No it doesn't.
Yes, it does. The pastor, bible colleges, and bible scholars, say that
Luke 14:26 means that we are to love our family less than Jesus.
They say it, I believe it. Same goes for what i hear in chatrooms.
I'm not 100% convinced, but I begin to think this guy's a put-on.
Surely no one is REALLY that gullible and sheep-like?
Well, check out the name on my email.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" |
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07 Apr 2004 05:55:01 PM |
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(The Big Creep) wrote in
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com:
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
That isn't what it says. If you don't like what the bible says, why don't
you just cut the crap and write your own, then it will say what you want it
to say just like the original unknown bible authors/redactors/translators
did.
LK.
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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07 Apr 2004 08:01:05 PM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th <Llanzlan@Llurdiaxorb.net> wrote in message news:<Xns94C56F0D8DB57LlanzlanLlurdiaxorbn@203.97.37.6>...
mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com (The Big Creep) wrote in
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com:
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
That isn't what it says. If you don't like what the bible says, why don't
you just cut the crap and write your own, then it will say what you want it
to say just like the original unknown bible authors/redactors/translators
did.
The meaning I just provided is what I have been told by bible scholars and pastors.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" |
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07 Apr 2004 08:40:46 PM |
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(The Big Creep) wrote in
news:d16ebafc.0404071701.55e15fb4@posting.google.com:
Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th <Llanzlan@Llurdiaxorb.net> wrote in message
news:<Xns94C56F0D8DB57LlanzlanLlurdiaxorbn@203.97.37.6>...
(The Big Creep) wrote in
news:d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com:
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus.
It does not mean to actually despise your family.
That isn't what it says. If you don't like what the bible says, why
don't you just cut the crap and write your own, then it will say what
you want it to say just like the original unknown bible
authors/redactors/translators did.
The meaning I just provided is what I have been told by bible scholars
and pastors.
Ask a pastor from each Christian sect and they will all give you a
different answer. The fact is, that the original texts are not available so
who knows what they actually said. It also appears likely that the many
originals were written down many years after the events depicted.
Most of the original Christian documents were probably supressed/destroyed
because they were at variance to the sect that won out at the time. The
bible you have today is essentially the one put together in the fourth
century. You can look into these things yourself rather than relying on a
biased pastor.
LK
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| User: "David V." |
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07 Apr 2004 08:10:08 PM |
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The Big Creep wrote:
Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th <Llanzlan@Llurdiaxorb.net>
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mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com (The Big Creep) wrote
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family
less than Jesus. It does not mean to actually despise
your family.
That isn't what it says. If you don't like what the
bible says, why don't you just cut the crap and write
your own, then it will say what you want it to say just
like the original unknown bible
authors/redactors/translators did.
The meaning I just provided is what I have been told by
bible scholars and pastors.
That doesn't make it true.
--
David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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07 Apr 2004 03:39:45 PM |
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Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
And on what scriptural basis do you make that interpretation? If he had not
meant hate he would not have used the word "miseo", the Greek work for hate.
So, what you're saying is that Jesus lied.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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07 Apr 2004 05:15:03 PM |
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In article <d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com>,
(The Big Creep) wrote:
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
I suggest you get a fucking concordance and look up the meaning of the
original word in Greek.
Idiot.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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07 Apr 2004 07:59:57 PM |
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*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-BED9C6.18150207042004@news05.east.earthlink.net>...
In article <d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com>,
mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com (The Big Creep) wrote:
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
I suggest you get a fucking concordance and look up the meaning of the
original word in Greek.
Idiot.
That is how the pastors and bible scholars interpret that verse.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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08 Apr 2004 04:48:04 AM |
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In article <d16ebafc.0404071659.3a9fb045@posting.google.com>,
(The Big Creep) wrote:
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:<nemo0037-BED9C6.18150207042004@news05.east.earthlink.net>...
In article <d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com>,
(The Big Creep) wrote:
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
I suggest you get a fucking concordance and look up the meaning of the
original word in Greek.
Idiot.
That is how the pastors and bible scholars interpret that verse.
You ever think to ask them or yourself what justification they might
have to "interpret" it that way?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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08 Apr 2004 09:30:03 AM |
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*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-915DA6.05480308042004@news06.east.earthlink.net>...
You ever think to ask them or yourself what justification they might
have to "interpret" it that way?
No, because also the purtians bible, the Geneva Bible, interprets the
verse that way too.
If I am told something by a puritan scholar or pastor, I believe it.
No questions asked.
Hey! That is how some other people behave.
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| User: "Jez" |
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11 Apr 2004 10:53:28 AM |
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"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404080630.2818e757@posting.google.com...
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:<nemo0037-915DA6.05480308042004@news06.east.earthlink.net>...
You ever think to ask them or yourself what justification they might
have to "interpret" it that way?
No, because also the purtians bible, the Geneva Bible, interprets the
verse that way too.
If I am told something by a puritan scholar or pastor, I believe it.
No questions asked.
Why ? Haven't you got your own brain ???
Hey! That is how some other people behave.
So ? That doesn't mean you have to copy them.
Think for yourself.
It doesn't hurt that much once you get used to it !
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Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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12 Apr 2004 09:24:44 AM |
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"Jez" <iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:<40796a03$0$276$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>...
So ? That doesn't mean you have to copy them.
Yes, I do.
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| User: "Jez" |
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12 Apr 2004 03:22:35 PM |
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"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404120624.6a040664@posting.google.com...
"Jez" <iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:<40796a03$0$276$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>...
So ? That doesn't mean you have to copy them.
Yes, I do.
LOL.
Did they tell you that ?
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Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Apr 2004 11:15:19 AM |
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On 12 Apr 2004 07:24:44 -0700, (The Big
Creep), Message ID: <d16ebafc.0404120624.6a040664@posting.google.com>
wrote in alt.atheism;
"Jez" <iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message news:<40796a03$0$276$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>...
So ? That doesn't mean you have to copy them.
Yes, I do.
(shudder) A mindless slave. Ick.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "David V." |
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07 Apr 2004 08:09:22 PM |
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The Big Creep wrote:
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote
mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com (The Big Creep) wrote:
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family
less than Jesus. It does not mean to actually despise
your family.
I suggest you get a fucking concordance and look up the
meaning of the original word in Greek.
Idiot.
That is how the pastors and bible scholars interpret that
verse.
Why does it need "interpreting"?
--
David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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08 Apr 2004 06:29:21 AM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<d--dnRffkd7fO-ndRVn-hg@sti.net>...
Why does it need "interpreting"?
There is such a thing as context.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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08 Apr 2004 09:29:36 AM |
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"The Big Creep" <mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:d16ebafc.0404080329.22a15dd9@posting.google.com...
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<d--dnRffkd7fO-ndRVn-hg@sti.net>...
Why does it need "interpreting"?
There is such a thing as context.
"Context" is the word many religious liars use to justify their lies.
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08 Apr 2004 10:48:50 AM |
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The Big Creep wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Why does it need "interpreting"?
There is such a thing as context.
Yes, there is, but when you "interpret" things you are
taking them out of context.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "quibbler" |
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07 Apr 2004 12:18:52 PM |
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In article <d16ebafc.0404070841.2937b582@posting.google.com>,
mystery_hunter@volcanomail.com says...
Luke 14:26 means that you are to love your family less than Jesus. It
does not mean to actually despise your family.
I'm glad you've appointed yourself to offer interpretations that differ from the
literal statements that Jesus is attributed as uttering. Didn't you think that
you should at least indicate why you interpret it that way? Do you base it on
linguists, context, cultural idiom, ... or did you just pull the exegesis out of
your *****?
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| User: "The Big Creep" |
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| Title: Re: Ping: editor of Evil Bible |
07 Apr 2004 04:43:07 PM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1adde5eab98e65d59896cf@news.individual.net>...
I'm glad you've appointed yourself to offer interpretations that
differ from the literal statements that Jesus is attributed as
uttering. Didn't you think that you should at least indicate why you
interpret it that way? Do you base it on linguists, context, cultural
idiom, ... or did you just pull the exegesis out of your *****?
In semitic usage, hate means, "Love less"
Also, this is what i have been told by pastors, bible scholars, etc.
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