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Religions > Atheism |
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"Yik Yak" |
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15 Nov 2005 06:06:17 AM |
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Pocked Faced *****!!!! |
Michael Newdow, perhaps America's best known atheist, has a new target
in his personal war against God in the public domain: "In God We
Trust" on U.S. money.
"I am about to file to get 'In God We Trust' off the front of our
currency," he told the Oklahoman. "I plan to do that this week."
Newdow, of Sacramento, Calif., made the remarks Saturday night shortly
before addressing the American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma
Foundation Bill of Rights Celebration.
"The key principle is that we're supposed to treat everybody equally
especially in terms of religious belief," Newdow told KWTV in Oklahoma
City. "Clearly it's not treating atheists equal with people who
believe in God when you say 'In God We Trust' or we are a 'nation
under God.'"
"People say, 'Are you an atheist activist?' And I'm not," he
continued. "I couldn't care less what anyone believes. I just care
that our government treats everybody equally."
In September, a federal judge in Sacramento ruled the reciting of the
Pledge of Allegiance in public schools is unconstitutional.
The pledge's reference to one nation "under God" violates school
children's right to be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm
God," said U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton.
Karlton granted legal standing to two families represented by Newdow,
who lost his previous battle before the U.S. Supreme Court.
The judge, nominated to his seat by President Carter in 1979, said he
was bound by the precedent of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals'
in 2002, which favored Newdow.
Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Newdow's case 8-0 because
he did not have legal standing to represent his daughter, who is under
sole custody of her mother.
In January, however, Newdow filed a complaint in federal court in
Sacramento, Calif., with eight new co-plaintiffs, seeking to remove
"under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance on the grounds it violates
the so-called "separation of church and state."
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Pocked Faced *****!!!! |
15 Nov 2005 04:56:44 AM |
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Fighting for our rights!!!!
Thanks for noticing!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "NC" |
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| Title: Re: Pocked Faced ***** wants equal rights!!!! |
16 Nov 2005 12:57:52 AM |
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Thanks for the article. I see you couldn't be bothered to comment on
anything said in it. Let's take a look...
"The key principle is that we're supposed to treat everybody equally
especially in terms of religious belief,"
<...>
"I couldn't care less what anyone believes. I just care
that our government treats everybody equally."
Do you disagree with this sentiment?
The pledge's reference to one nation "under God" violates school
children's right to be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm
God," said U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton.
"Oh no! They won't be allowed to coerce my neighbor's kids into doing
what mine do!" That's really what it's about, right? OTHER peoples'
children. Or maybe you want to make sure all the others are chanting in
unison so your kids won't wonder "Hmmm, that's odd, I never noticed that
I had a choice in the matter...".
Karlton granted legal standing to two families represented by Newdow,
who lost his previous battle before the U.S. Supreme Court.
The judge, nominated to his seat by President Carter in 1979, said he
was bound by the precedent of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals'
in 2002, which favored Newdow.
Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Newdow's case 8-0 because
he did not have legal standing to represent his daughter, who is under
sole custody of her mother.
In January, however, Newdow filed a complaint in federal court in
Sacramento, Calif., with eight new co-plaintiffs, seeking to remove
"under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance on the grounds it violates
the so-called "separation of church and state."
People like to attack the phrase "seperation of church and state" like
it's just a suggestion. But it becomes pretty obvious you can't have a
first amendment with free exercise of religion for all AND have state
institutions selectively picking and choosing which kinds of religions
get the their stamp of approval for inclusion ignoring all others. In
fact, on the few occassions when a state institution has sponsored less
popular religions, people from the majority religions have FREAKED OUT
suddenly becoming in favor of seperation...but just for those minority
cases. Ahhh, America...
NC
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Pocked Faced *****!!!! |
15 Nov 2005 05:27:44 AM |
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Yik Yak wrote:
Michael Newdow, perhaps America's best known atheist, has a new target
in his personal war against God in the public domain: "In God We
Trust" on U.S. money.
Should he ever need a hammer-wielding barbarian fighting on his side, he's
free to contact me ;)
Either way, he fights for the right thing. I look forward to one day meeting
him in Valhalla!
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: Pocked Faced *****!!!! |
15 Nov 2005 05:48:24 AM |
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Yik Yak, I hope you realize you're going to be sent straight to Hell for
your Wrath and Pride.
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