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http://www.examiner.com/a-884010
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BAGHDAD (Map, News) - The Iraqi prime minister and president announced a
new alliance of moderate Shiites and Kurds in a push to save the
crumbing government Thursday, saying a key Sunni bloc refused to join
but the door remained open to them.
The pact came amid a grim backdrop: more bodies being pulled from the
rubble of the most deadly suicide bombing assault of the war. The
Interior Ministry spokesman said the death toll in northern Iraq was at
least 400 from Tuesday's attacks against a small religious sect.
Earlier, some military and medical authorities said at least 500 people
died.
The political agreement reached by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was
the first step to unblock political stagnation that has gripped his
Shiite-led government since it first took power in May 2006. But the
announcement after three days of intense negotiations was disappointing
because it did not include Iraq's Sunni Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi
and his moderate Iraqi Islamic Party.
Al-Maliki has been criticized for having a Shiite bias and failing to
stop Iraq's sectarian violence, which persists despite the presence of
tens of thousands of extra U.S. troops.
Emergency workers and grieving relatives in northern Iraq, meanwhile,
pressed ahead with recovery efforts two days after a quadruple suicide
truck bombing in the village of Qahataniya near the Syrian border. The
attacks targeted Yazidis, a small Kurdish-speaking sect whose members
are considered to be blasphemers by Muslim extremists.
Dakhil Qassim, the mayor of the nearby Sinjar town, said reports by
other local officials that the casualty toll had risen to 500 dead and
more than 375 wounded were true.
The Interior Ministry spokesman, Brig. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf, said at
least 400 people were killed and that two tons of explosives were used
in the blasts.
Zayan Othman, health minister for Iraq's nearby autonomous Kurdish
region, said Wednesday that 250 bodies had been pulled from the rubble
and some 350 people were injured, but he could not immediately be
reached for an update on Thursday. The figures could not be
independently checked because the area was under curfew and casualties
had been taken to numerous hospitals.
But even the lower death estimate far surpassed the previous bloodiest
attack of the war - 215 people killed by mortar fire and five car bombs
in Baghdad's Shiite Muslim enclave of Sadr City on Nov. 23.
In Baghdad, a car bomb struck a parking garage in a central commercial
district during the morning rush hour Thursday, killing at least nine
people and wounding 17, police said. Smoke poured out of the seven-story
concrete building, and food and merchandise stalls below were left
charred.
At the news conference announcing the political accord, President Jalal
Talabani and al-Maliki were flanked by the leader of the northern
autonomous Kurdish region, Massoud Barzani, and Shiite Vice President
Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi.
The four men signed a three-page agreement they said ensures them a
majority in the 275-member parliament that would allow action on
legislation demanded by the U.S.
Talabani, a Kurd, said al-Hashemi refused the invitation to join in the
new political grouping but "the door is still open to them and they are
welcome at any time."
Al-Maliki also called on the Sunni Accordance Front, which includes al-
Hashemi's party, to return to the government and heal a rift that opened
when the bloc's five Cabinet ministers quit the government.
The four-party agreement was unveiled four weeks before the top U.S.
commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, and U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker
are to deliver a progress report on Iraq to Congress.
"We have relegated efforts to topple the government to the past. We are
now in a new stage," said al-Maliki's adviser, Yassin Majeed. "We will
keep working to bring the Accordance Front back, but if they insist we
will have a majority in parliament and bring in new ministers."
The attack against the Yazidis dealt a serious blow to the Bush
administration's hopes of presenting a positive picture in the progress
report to Congress, which comes as legislators face a fierce debate over
whether to begin withdrawing American forces.
The U.S. military has blamed al-Qaida in Iraq for the devastating
attacks, which crumbled buildings, trapping entire families beneath mud
bricks and other wreckage as entire neighborhoods were flattened.
"This is an act of ethnic cleansing, if you will, almost genocide," Army
Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, commander of U.S. forces in northern Iraq,
told CNN on Wednesday. He said that was evident from the fact Yazidis
live in a remote part of Ninevah province that has been far from Iraq's
conflict.
Mixon said last month that he proposed reducing American troop levels in
Ninevah and predicted the province would shift to Iraqi government
control as early as this month. It was unclear whether that projection
would hold after Tuesday's staggering casualties.
Hashim al-Hamadani, a senior provincial security official; Kifah
Mohammed, director of Sinjar hospital; and Iraqi army Capt. Mohammed
Ahmed also said 500 had been killed and 350 were wounded.
U.S. officials believe insurgents have been regrouping across northern
Iraq after being driven from strongholds in and around Baghdad, and the
bombings coincided with the start of a major offensive by American and
Iraqi troops against militants in the Diyala River Valley.
Petraeus warned that he expected Sunni Arab insurgents to stage more
spectacular attacks ahead of the progress report to Congress, whose
members are deeply divided over whether to begin withdrawing U.S. troops
from Iraq.
"We've always said al-Qaida would try to carry out sensational attacks
this month in particular," he told The Associated Press in an interview.
"We've had some success against them in certain areas, but we've also
said they do retain the capability to carry out these horrific and
indiscriminate attacks such as the ones yesterday.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“It takes a truly twisted perspective to see a man who commits private
sins while arguing in public for virtue, and choose to take issue with
the latter."
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poosand Congress |
16 Aug 2007 01:13:27 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
(snip)
Here is the part of this article that I think shows the
"surge" is a failure.
The attack against the Yazidis dealt a serious blow to the Bush
administration's hopes of presenting a positive picture in the progress
report to Congress, which comes as legislators face a fierce debate over
whether to begin withdrawing American forces.
The U.S. military has blamed al-Qaida in Iraq for the devastating
attacks, which crumbled buildings, trapping entire families beneath mud
bricks and other wreckage as entire neighborhoods were flattened.
"This is an act of ethnic cleansing, if you will, almost genocide," Army
Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, commander of U.S. forces in northern Iraq,
told CNN on Wednesday. He said that was evident from the fact Yazidis
live in a remote part of Ninevah province that has been far from Iraq's
conflict.
(snip)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poos and Congress |
16 Aug 2007 01:49:13 PM |
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John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:HZydndHJZZGbCVnbnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
(snip)
Here is the part of this article that I think shows the
"surge" is a failure.
What it shows is that the terrorists are stagind these attacks for the
Congress of the United States and that report that's due in September.
They want spectacular bad news just like that to be in our headlines for
the Democrats to harp on. And you'll fall for it.
The attack against the Yazidis dealt a serious blow to the Bush
administration's hopes of presenting a positive picture in the
progress report to Congress, which comes as legislators face a fierce
debate over whether to begin withdrawing American forces.
The U.S. military has blamed al-Qaida in Iraq for the devastating
attacks, which crumbled buildings, trapping entire families beneath
mud bricks and other wreckage as entire neighborhoods were flattened.
"This is an act of ethnic cleansing, if you will, almost genocide,"
Army Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, commander of U.S. forces in northern
Iraq, told CNN on Wednesday. He said that was evident from the fact
Yazidis live in a remote part of Ninevah province that has been far
from Iraq's conflict.
(snip)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“It takes a truly twisted perspective to see a man who commits private
sins while arguing in public for virtue, and choose to take issue with
the latter."
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poosand Congress |
16 Aug 2007 01:58:44 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:HZydndHJZZGbCVnbnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
(snip)
Here is the part of this article that I think shows the
"surge" is a failure.
What it shows is that the terrorists are stagind these attacks for the
Congress of the United States and that report that's due in September.
They want spectacular bad news just like that to be in our headlines for
the Democrats to harp on. And you'll fall for it.
Define "it", as used in that last sentence.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poos and Congress |
16 Aug 2007 04:06:45 PM |
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John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:BrSdnauoANk-A1nbnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:HZydndHJZZGbCVnbnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
(snip)
Here is the part of this article that I think shows the
"surge" is a failure.
What it shows is that the terrorists are stagind these attacks for
the Congress of the United States and that report that's due in
September. They want spectacular bad news just like that to be in our
headlines for the Democrats to harp on. And you'll fall for it.
Define "it", as used in that last sentence.
The notion that one attack, staged anywhere in Iraq, means that the
whole country is falling apart.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“It takes a truly twisted perspective to see a man who commits private
sins while arguing in public for virtue, and choose to take issue with
the latter."
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poos and Congress |
16 Aug 2007 07:20:53 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns998EAE14F655Ffreddybear@216.151.153.46...
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:BrSdnauoANk-A1nbnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:HZydndHJZZGbCVnbnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
(snip)
Here is the part of this article that I think shows the
"surge" is a failure.
What it shows is that the terrorists are stagind these attacks for
the Congress of the United States and that report that's due in
September. They want spectacular bad news just like that to be in our
headlines for the Democrats to harp on. And you'll fall for it.
Define "it", as used in that last sentence.
The notion that one attack, staged anywhere in Iraq, means that the
whole country is falling apart.
You must have missed the hundreds (probably thousands) of attacks that
preceded this particular attack. But you wouldn't notice those, since
you're too busy ingesting the kool-aid and worshipping bush.
Does the kool-aid burn when it hits your vein?
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poosand Congress |
16 Aug 2007 07:13:03 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:BrSdnauoANk-A1nbnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:HZydndHJZZGbCVnbnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
(snip)
Here is the part of this article that I think shows the
"surge" is a failure.
What it shows is that the terrorists are stagind these attacks for
the Congress of the United States and that report that's due in
September. They want spectacular bad news just like that to be in our
headlines for the Democrats to harp on. And you'll fall for it.
Define "it", as used in that last sentence.
The notion that one attack, staged anywhere in Iraq, means that the
whole country is falling apart.
Are you saying that we should count this latest attack (with
something like 500 dead) as attack number one?
How many ones does it take to add up to many?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poos and Congress |
16 Aug 2007 03:05:33 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:58:44 -0400, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net>
wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in
news:HZydndHJZZGbCVnbnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
(snip)
Here is the part of this article that I think shows the
"surge" is a failure.
What it shows is that the terrorists are stagind these attacks for the
Congress of the United States and that report that's due in September.
They want spectacular bad news just like that to be in our headlines for
the Democrats to harp on. And you'll fall for it.
Define "it", as used in that last sentence.
Bush's failure to prosecute the war successfully. Bush is only
pretending to not win the war. And he'll keep pretending until
January, 2009. And you fell for it. We actually won the war on April
1, 2003.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Political Progress In Iraq, al Qaeda attacks play to Yangie-poos and Congress |
16 Aug 2007 02:31:50 PM |
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On 16 Aug 2007 18:07:45 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns998E8FE123574freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/a-884010
~Iraqi_Leader_Announces_New_Alliance.html?cid=rss-World
BAGHDAD (Map, News) - The Iraqi prime minister and president announced a
new alliance of moderate Shiites and Kurds in a push to save the
crumbing government Thursday, saying a key Sunni bloc refused to join
but the door remained open to them.
Now that is success. The crumbling government is willing to work with
the Sunnis who are not willing to work with them.
The pact came amid a grim backdrop: more bodies being pulled from the
rubble of the most deadly suicide bombing assault of the war. The
Interior Ministry spokesman said the death toll in northern Iraq was at
least 400 from Tuesday's attacks against a small religious sect.
Earlier, some military and medical authorities said at least 500 people
died.
But the surge is working.
[snip]
"This is an act of ethnic cleansing, if you will, almost genocide," Army
Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, commander of U.S. forces in northern Iraq,
told CNN on Wednesday. He said that was evident from the fact Yazidis
live in a remote part of Ninevah province that has been far from Iraq's
conflict.
Mixon said last month that he proposed reducing American troop levels in
Ninevah and predicted the province would shift to Iraqi government
control as early as this month. It was unclear whether that projection
would hold after Tuesday's staggering casualties.
Hashim al-Hamadani, a senior provincial security official; Kifah
Mohammed, director of Sinjar hospital; and Iraqi army Capt. Mohammed
Ahmed also said 500 had been killed and 350 were wounded.
U.S. officials believe insurgents have been regrouping across northern
Iraq after being driven from strongholds in and around Baghdad, and the
bombings coincided with the start of a major offensive by American and
Iraqi troops against militants in the Diyala River Valley.
But the surge is working.
[snip]
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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16 Aug 2007 06:32:21 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:31:50 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 18:07:45 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns998E8FE123574freddybear@216.151.153.46> wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/a-884010
~Iraqi_Leader_Announces_New_Alliance.html?cid=rss-World
BAGHDAD (Map, News) - The Iraqi prime minister and president announced a
new alliance of moderate Shiites and Kurds in a push to save the
crumbing government Thursday, saying a key Sunni bloc refused to join
but the door remained open to them.
Now that is success. The crumbling government is willing to work with
the Sunnis who are not willing to work with them.
The pact came amid a grim backdrop: more bodies being pulled from the
rubble of the most deadly suicide bombing assault of the war. The
Interior Ministry spokesman said the death toll in northern Iraq was at
least 400 from Tuesday's attacks against a small religious sect.
Earlier, some military and medical authorities said at least 500 people
died.
But the surge is working.
[snip]
"This is an act of ethnic cleansing, if you will, almost genocide," Army
Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, commander of U.S. forces in northern Iraq,
told CNN on Wednesday. He said that was evident from the fact Yazidis
live in a remote part of Ninevah province that has been far from Iraq's
conflict.
Mixon said last month that he proposed reducing American troop levels in
Ninevah and predicted the province would shift to Iraqi government
control as early as this month. It was unclear whether that projection
would hold after Tuesday's staggering casualties.
Hashim al-Hamadani, a senior provincial security official; Kifah
Mohammed, director of Sinjar hospital; and Iraqi army Capt. Mohammed
Ahmed also said 500 had been killed and 350 were wounded.
U.S. officials believe insurgents have been regrouping across northern
Iraq after being driven from strongholds in and around Baghdad, and the
bombings coincided with the start of a major offensive by American and
Iraqi troops against militants in the Diyala River Valley.
But the surge is working.
And Fred is really brave.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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